Who does /k/ feel about women in the military? Are they as good

>>32131505
Are you even trying?

Newfags, type sage in options field if you reply.

If shes both physically and mentally as capable as the male soldiers sure, I dont approve lowering standards just to fulfill some quota tho

>>32131525
She isn't. Nice way to literally say "duhh".

They shouldn't be in the workforce, let alone the military.

>>32131568
go back to www.dailystormer.com, newfag

>>32131505
I feel like it is an unnecessary amount of bureaucratic baggage in order to make the whores that make a living off a soldiers politically acceptable.
Once upon a time we just had brothels and didn't pretend it was anything else.

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>>32131505
Women do not belong in combat for the simple reasons that:
1. They are biologically weaker than men due, and thus not able to stand up to the same strain a man's body can. Look at any major sport, and you will realize they all seperate genders in competition, because of these differences. For example: Running, Basketball, UFC, swimming, ect.
2. Men will not treat a female soldier the same way they would treat a male soldier. All men inherently seek to protect women, and having them on the battlefield will make them compromise the mission.

Men and women are not equal. Society wants to imagine that men and women are the same, but they don't take for account that men and women evolved differently for their said traditional roles in society. You cannot just undue thousands of years of evolution just because you want to.

>>32131505
No. They're 2.5 standard deviations physically weaker.

And that' just the tip of the iceberg. An absolutely top-shelf female athlete can be as good as a ordinary fit man, but the social issues never go away. Women think and act differently than men, and many of those traits are incompatible with an effective military.

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>>32131892
>think differently
They are wired for different reasons.

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>>32131866
>>32131892
>>32131934

>Tfw you told newfags to sage and they don't, and instead bump cancer

>>32131970
>le im such an oldfag meme

>>32131505
Women shouldn't be doing anything other than watching kids, not voting, cooking, not working.

>>32131505
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2394531-marine-corps-force-integration-plan-summary.html

Every time.

>>32131505
They should not serve in the military in any capacity. No combat rules, no female only units, no support roles. Males will perform any of those roles better, with few exceptions. The military should be as strong as possible, not as inclusive as possible.

>>32131505
Sage sage and sage

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>>32131505
is that a helmet or a hoodie?

>>32133747
I bet she gives great helmet.

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>>32131505

>>32131505
No.
Sage and move on folks.

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>>32131505
>/k/ doesn't want to fight Isis with a qt

>>32131505
No, also its easy to destroy enemy morale when you target their female soldiers.

>>32134006
>degrees in dindu-tyrone studies
>an actual degree

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>>32131505

>>32131505
>Who does /k/ feel about women in the military?
Excellent recreational opportunity for male soldiers. Optimal practice for women training to be single moms on welfare after they are discharged.

>>32134760
Good god, look at that flinch, and she closes her eyes when she shoots.

Fuck that, I do not want to be fighting alongside that walking ND waiting to happen.

>>32131505
I usually feel about their breast and ass.

To me, they feel better than the average soldier.

>>32131505
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/his-stress-not-her-stress

they break under stress

>>32134781
you don't have to be smart to be soldier.
(im no saying retards are good troops, but are genius either)

So are these threads just sexism echo chambers or do people just like asking the same meaningless questions over and over

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As long as they can pass the same standards as men, I have no problem with women in the military.

>>32135645
What is your opinion? Got any [citations] that influenced it?

>>32131505
Maybe like 1 in 5 are good people capable of doing their jobs without being insufferable or just weak.

4 in 5 are either asshat cunts or profile riding fatbodies.

>>32131505
Not in combat roles, even if she meets all standards female presence will degrade unit effectiveness.

>>32131866
>2. Men will not treat a female soldier the same way they would treat a male soldier. All men inherently seek to protect women, and having them on the battlefield will make them compromise the mission.

I 100% think this is bullshit.
In fact I wholeheartedly believe it's the opposite.

I go to a senior military college and women are treated decidedly worse by 90% of males.

Even at summer Army training where we're mixed in with people from all over the nation the vast majority still treated the other female cadets with extreme contempt and left them when they couldn't keep up.
(PT, Lanes, etc...)

>>32135737
I dunno. I don't really have any [citation needed]s but all these studies and shit people post in these threads about the female mental process always come off as sketchy as fuck. It doesn't help matters that they always seem to have snide sexist comments or "something something feminists lol women's studies" included with them that make me think they're biased and skewed as fuck. I make it a point not to trust anything calling itself a scientific study posted on a forum or image board or social media site unless I personally give enough of a shit to research a bunch of peer-reviewed studies paid for by unbiased sources that can back it up.

If they can meet the same physical standards I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to serve. They've been in militaries all over the world for awhile now. If people are bitching because they can get in without being able to bench press the same as a male or some shit then stick them in with the POGs.

Infantry grunts will probably be a male-dominated profession for the foreseeable future simply because it's based a lot on physical work, but women have been in the air force and the navy and logistics and signals and etc. for awhile now and there hasn't been any issues. Just because you can't ram a knife into a dirty foreigner's throat after beating the shit out of him as well as a dude can doesn't mean you can't pop his head from a hundred yards away or send a guided missile down his throat from the next county over. That's how modern warfare is largely fought anyway.

Sorry for the 12-point APA Times New Roman essay but you were kind enough to ask for my opinion. The way I see these thread is that it's biased and doesn't present anything of worth. It's not the opinions of active-duty soldiers who have fought alongside women, it's the opinion of anons who have only ever gotten rejected when they hit on the girls at the range.

>>32136195
You are thinking only in the competitive training sense where the life of the woman is not at risk, at least not obviously so.

Life and death situations are quite different, this is where the 'women are equal' bit really fails as you are fighting the evolutionary instinct to protect a woman, even to your own destruction. quite
Women are more important to the reproductive continuation of our species, this being our only real purpose in life and so the deepest evolved instinct.

>>32136303
This seems like really restricted thinking. Military training focuses on overcoming instinct, probably the most prominent being "don't go towards those explosions and shit that can kill you". Soldiers get themselves killed all the time trying to protect or save their comrades and battle-buddies, so I don't see how it'll change if we throw a few evolutionary pseudo-waifus in the mix.

>>32136303
>Life and death situations are quite different, this is where the 'women are equal' bit really fails as you are fighting the evolutionary instinct to protect a woman, even to your own destruction. quite
>Women are more important to the reproductive continuation of our species, this being our only real purpose in life and so the deepest evolved instinct.

Have you ever been in combat?
This seems like conjecture to me.

I can't imagine anyone but a massive fedora tipping nerd saving a woman over a man solely by virtue of their gender/some primal instinct I've never heard of.
Seems like pseudo-science to me.

Especially considering, >>32136357

Soldiering is a profession, and you're expected to act professional and be trained to react to different contact and stimuli in the proper manner.

To say that any random male would be overcome by some innate primal response and be unable to professionally control themselves in order to complete a job they've been training for years for seems like bunk to me.

>>32131505

feelsgoodman

the butthurt from the welfare queens and basement dwellers is delicious

>>32135734
those hats don't look within regs

>>32132829

TPBP

>>32131970
IM THE BOSS LISTEN TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>32136195
>>32136303
>>32136357
>>32136404
I-is this a reasonable, civil discussion? On 4chan? In a "women in the military" thread?

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I support it, but they should be held to the same standards, and the sexes should be segregated.

would be quite good desu

>>32136195
>I got to a senior military college
>decidedly worse by 90% of males

Its because they generally suck and are sometimes given special treatment. I have witnessed females get away with things that would normally get males kicked out. SIB, breaking the honor code, rule breaking, you name it. If you have a vagina you get a pass, if you have a vagina and play a sport you are practically immune to severe punishment. That same content for the system translates to training, and understandably makes male peers frustrated.

Sure, there are some females that are exceptions that do very well and in certain cases outperform their male counterparts, good for them and I always wish them well. But that is not the majority. In an environment where everyone is hyper competitive and expected to perform to the highest standard possible it is not a good thing to slow the squad down during a comp because you can't keep up.

T. SMC grad. Best of luck to you, there is light at the end of the tunnel.

>>32136716
>Its because they generally suck and are sometimes given special treatment. I have witnessed females get away with things that would normally get males kicked out. SIB, breaking the honor code, rule breaking, you name it. If you have a vagina you get a pass, if you have a vagina and play a sport you are practically immune to severe punishment. That same content for the system translates to training, and understandably makes male peers frustrated.
Definitely.
That was one of the things I was trying to get across.
Coddling on the side of the Corps does nothing but make normal people hate them; it doesn't engender risking personal success to balance out their failings.

I just couldn't visualize his assertion that men naturally sacrifice for even unrelated women because it runs counter to what I've seen.

And thanks for the well wishes.

>>32135734
Most of them can't...and it's not cost effective to find the 1 out of every 1000 female recruits that can meet minimum male standards when the majority of men can routinely exceed minimum standards.

11B here, literally no one inside combat arms thinks female integration is a good thing...not that we expect white knight pussies who'll never serve in a line unit care about anything other than serving their narrative.

>>32131505
I'd let her capture me

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>>32131505
They shouldn't be in the military.

Women or trannies in the military, in front line combat

You have to pick one

Maplefag in the Infantry. Yes they should. We tend to focus on the worst female soldiers and blame how garbage they are because they're women, but the male soldiers who are pumps aren't shit because they're male.

>>32136981
>Leaf military
>Been garrisoned his entire career
>Zero combat experience

Opinion discarded.

>>32137062
says the fat civilian sitting on his pc waiting for mommy to bring chicken nuggets

kys my man

>>32137094
Stay mad support fag...let the men take the fight to the enemy, we will let you know when it's safe to come out.

Sincerely, 11B

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>>32136303
No, this sounds like complete bullshit pseudoscience. You appear to be suggesting that men tend to be more willing to forfeit their own lives when a woman is in trouble, and I would agree with you in most scenarios. However, war is an entirely different environment that is alien to most people's experience. Those who cannot adequately defend themselves or others while holding the same rifle as you will not garner any special sympathy from peers. A soldier is expected to protect his fellows and vice-versa in combat to ensure to the best of their ability that they return home. If a woman can indeed operate on the same level reliably with her fellow soldiers then I expect that this relationship will be reciprocated.

>>32135734
The longer version is better when the guy just strolls past and is like what is everyone yelling about.

Also the rifle is your life not a fucking crutch. Women in the infantry is a bad idea.

>>32137300
Anyone have it?

>>32131505

no.

>>32131505
No.
I train 2nd LTs going through their BOLC. I haven't seen a single goddamn one that charge a .50 cal without help.

>>32131604
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>>32137190
A women will never be seen as a peer once the bullets start flying.

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Whatever happened to forcing women into registering for selective service?

saged

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>>32131505
Gay

>>32136404
t. cadet

The purpose of the military is not political fesance, it exists to win fights.

>I can't imagine anyone but a massive fedora tipping nerd saving a woman over a man
Have you considered that the woman is probably fucking at least one of the men from the unit? Because she is.

>>32139272
That's the exact moment when a capable woman could be viewed as one.

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>/k/ needs to have this thread every singel day
YOU FUCKING KNOW WHAT OUR ANSWER IS ALREADY

>>32137300
>>32137981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F_3MKYiF_c

the only war women need to be fighting is the war with muh dick. spoiler alert: they always lose

>>32131525
This
>>32131568
This for 80-95% of women

>>32142558
We don't know your answer though

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bump.

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>>32142686
my answer is to let them fight.

>>32142633
This. Most females are useless, but talented ones shouldn't suffer because of that

>>32136829

The mutilated headcases would be good for patrols in high risk areas to spot snipers.

>>32139148

Fuck, I'm a spaghettiarmed hungry skellington and I can do that.

>>32146961
They should though, a talented woman is equivalent to a slightly below average man and they are few and far apart

Why bother spending so much time and money on the rare case when you can get dozens and dozens of gjuys that will exceed them in almost every way with little effort?

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>>32147483
Yet a person to clean up Denmark from shitskins, jews, meds and slavs is a woman

>>32131505
this thread again...

>>32147663
B A S E D
A
S
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Denmark is for the Danish

>>32147663
>tfw no nationalist European girlfriend with awesome face and feet

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>>32142559
>mfw

I hate 90% of these fucking female officers

>>32135512
you do though. you get killed if you aren't smart and i don't mean book-smart yknow?

>>32148002

https://www.jqpublicblog.com/clueless/

>>32147663
And yet the person who is importing shitskins into Europe en masse is a woman

Most women in combat roles are in the artillery in Canada, today when i went to join the artillery me and a girl were looking to join. However the recruiter was away on training. I really be leave in equality and its a huge part of our military. 1 out 4 females have been sexually assaulted in the CF and 80% in their career. Just goes to show male testosterone can be out of control sometimes. When you get married you treat your wife as equal under marriage law should be the same in the military. These girls are willing to fight along side males and deserve respect. Now for most of history it has been males in combat roles it was only up until the 80s that girls could do combat roles it takes time for things to change. In country's like Israel men and women both have to do military service by law. We have a general that is a women because she is very good at her job.

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You know I never get that many opportunists to post this.

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>>32142559
>https://www.jqpublicblog.com/clueless/
The fuck was that? We had I think about 30 females by the end of BCT, and they all completed the 16k. I don't think any fell out, save for one or two that rolled their ankle. Then again, I stayed near the front and was half asleep.

>>32151967
I never get disappointed by the reactions

>>32152098
The one with pigtails has the look of overwhelming disgust mixed with disbelief. It's so fucking perfect.

some males cant even do basic training

>>32152121

Some men can't whereas MOST woman can't.

There is an exception to every rule, but statistics don't lie.

>>32151967
>You know I never get that many opportunists to post this.
Have a (you).

>>32147663
>Yet a person to clean up Denmark from
>and slavs is a woman
>>32147769

Hahaha, too bad you assholes don't breed, don't start families, and don't have children.
The Poles no longer want to do seasons jobs in Denmark, and suddenly the farmers started to beg for them to come back.

Stupid, lazy, decadent, degenerates.

>>32153270
>degenerates
But he's right and she is right in her quest. Intra-European migration is bad and collapse of ethnic states is degenerate. I don't want to see a million of Poles in London, and a million of French in Warsaw. Travel and mutual respect, not immigration

>>32151471
was it an argument for female superiority? not it was an argument for sexual egalitarianism when necessary. Guys who worked on Immigration Act 1965 and Frankfurt School were males(and jews at that too). People to let the genetic undesirables in Europe in the first place were males. Your point?

>>32153471
>males

Jewish males though, and female voters supported and continue to support their sentiments regarding immigration more than the men do or did

>>32147663
How is that supposed to be an argument against that post?

>>32153270
Go back to your own country, slave.

>>32131505
so the polish don't have simillar hair standards as the US? or did she just suck some officer's dick so she can keep her hair that long

I'm in BR's army and I do nothing all day. Can I join US military and shoot sandniggers in the face? Seriously, I'm sick of cleaning bathrooms, crawling in the mud and doing push ups.

>>32153919
No, not all militaries have the same arbitrary grooming standards.

>>32134760
>Closes her eyes when she shoots
>Flinching like she just shot a 12. guage for the first time

Gid no, I would leave her for dead.

The average woman is less strong and less weapon-capable than the average man. There are women that can excel in the battlefield, but the best men are, biologically, better than the best women. Women are more skilled in tactics and medic work, and the presence of a woman on a team tends to make the men focus on keeping her alive rather than securing the objective.

In short, they're effective ish, but they have other skills that are more useful.

>>32147663
She must peg the cuck out of Trudeau

OP asks about women in military. Dude replies
>>32131866
>Women do not belong in combat for the simple reasons that
OK, so we have established a collapse in reading comprehension. Let's go on...

>They are biologically weaker than men
Clearly we have yet another basement warrior who believes all soldiers win wars by shifting large masses around, like basement dwelling land whales. A step outside the basement into sunshine ("It burns, it buuuurns!") and you quickly find that Israel has a lot of experience here. Communications, intelligence, logistics and more do not require Schwartzenegger grade physique.

>2. Men will not treat a female soldier the same way they would treat a male soldier.
Insubordination remains insubordination no matter what is inside that uniform.

>>32136195
>and left them when they couldn't keep up
I cannot believe what I am reading here. What happened to corps d'esprit? When I served that would be a huge no-no. It is simply so far outside the acceptable where I served I cannot comprehend the brutality of the reaction for something like that.

You simply do not leave your fellow soldiers like that. Never.

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>>32151967

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>>32131970
>Tfw you post a tumblr level image of some modern teenage heartthrob identifiying yourself as a newfag trying too hard to fit in

>>32131505
Depends on the function, I guess.

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>>32131505

definitely not typing sage into the options bar on this great post