Hey /k/, what's the best caliber for SHTF?

>>32126800
probably 9mm
it's the most common caliber

>>32126805
no its not

>>32126800
50 BMG because its a 1 hit kill.

>>32126800
Whatever you can lay in 10k rounds

>>32126805
Wrong. 30-06, 12G, .223, or .22.

30-06 because it's fantastic for both people and animals, AND it is EXTREMELY common
12G, I don't need to explain
.223, because also extremely common, as well as lighter.
.22, see .223

>>32126805
you don't understand
9mm is the first caliber to get gone when SHTF
it's the first caliber to get gone when a democrat is elected or a crazy shoots a bunch of dudes

.270 Winchester is available everywhere and yet never leaves the shelves.
it's the best caliber for SHTF

>>32126897
> AND it is EXTREMELY common
>because also extremely common
common maybe in times of peace, but in highest demand whin SHTF and therefore the least common then

>>32126888
Then what is?

>>32126800
12 gauge for hunting everything in America and manstopping
>Inb4 muh prolonged 600 yard firefights

.45 for your SHTF highpoint .45 carbine. In a carbine .45 can be used for hunting as well as manstopping. .45 is obvious choice due to stopping power and the highpoint has a lifetime warrantee which will be handy when local resources are low.
>Inb4 muh heavy ammo

No rifle rounds for SHTF due to cost and lack of CQC potentional. Also rifles are unnecessary because long distance engagements are beyond an untrained civilians abilities.

>>32126800
.357 Magnum. Easily reloadable, reasonably common, highly versatile array of loadings and bullet types, strong enough to knock most medium game on their ass.

>>32126800
>9mm
>5.56/.223
>7.62/.308

The only calibers anyone needs, everything else is a meme.

>>32126800
Primary: 5.56
Secondary: 9mm

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The one you have a stockpiled. Ammo flies off the shelves. Get common ammo because it's cheaper to stockpile and easier to trade

>>32126923
Demand will be higher but it's something you could trade for, the ammo still exists in your local economy and is prolific enough that you'll frequently encounter it. You might not even find the less-common ammo if somebody else gets it and isn't physically close to you

>>32127014
>Shotguns are a meme
>Hunting is meme
>Hurr SHTF is just one endless firefight until FEMA trucks show up with crackers and govt cheese

Read a blog child

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9mm, 5.56, 12 ga. 2 3/4" because of how common they are. unicorns will run out fast and then you're fucked. Why does this keep coming up?

>>32126994
>highpoint has a lifetime warrantee which will be handy when local resources are low.

Yes, because calling them up for warranty work during a shtf scenario will be no problem.

>>32126800
If you're only going to have one, 12 ga. It's the most common and versatile cartridge for any modern firearm, ever. You can hunt anything you might need to, and defend yourself reasonably well. The only thing it can't do at all is engagements or hunting at long range. Other than that, it's a jack of all trades. Also, it's one of the most easy rounds to scavenge.

As for handguns, I'd say .357 Magnum. It'll stop most anything other than maybe a big ass bear, and it's fairly common. You can also scavenge either .357 or .38 spl which is incredibly common. And I'd always choose a revolver for SHTF, for its physical durability and resistance to sand and grit.

>>32126800
My SHTF loadout is is a .30-06 CZ 557 and my Taurus .357 that I had completely worked over by a gunsmith because it was a colossal piece of shit, but now it's great.

I have ammo, load my own for it, and have a good supply of it. Plan is to grab my gear and throw it in my truck with my mountain bike, and then fuck off into the woods for a month until things cool down. Lock everything worth a shit in my basement.

>>32126800
This depends on the flavor of SHTF, but for long term survival/defense it is definitely .223. It will do everything well, and you can carry a lot of it. If you have some sort of homestead you can stockpile whatever you want, but if you have to travel by foot I'm only taking an AR.

300 blackout obviously

>>32126800
Whatever is in stock


Caliber loyalty will go out the door as you'll have to use what you find and stockpile.

However supposedly it's easy to cast 45 caliber bullets and use both white or black powder. In cowbow cartridges like 45-70, 45 Long Colt and etc.

I have a ruger redhawk that can shoot both 45 acp and 45 colt.

12 gauge

>>32126800
What is the best for wilderness survival?

I know 30-06 and .308 are good all-around calibers, but would something like .260 be better?
>lighter
>more accurate and carries more energy out to long ranges

You fucking caliber retards. How about "what's the best cartridge" for shtf?

>>32128882
Okay then tell us the best cartridge oh great one

>>32129032
270 nigger. Because no one gives a shit about it and it's always on shelves.

That actually sounds like a new cartridge. The .270 nigger. I think hornady should develop.

In all seriousness I don't get this caliber bullshit. Why can't people just use correct terminology? Its like ar fucks that say "muh ar is chaimbered in 556 caliber".

PS: nigger nigger chicken dinner.

>>32126805
>it's the most common caliber
guess what Elmo, all gun stores will be closed when SHTF

>>32127386
>If you're only going to have one, 12 ga. It's the most common and versatile cartridge for any modern firearm, ever
britbong logic discarded

>>32129281
How many .270 caliber bullets can I fit in my AR's clip?

>>32129342
270 is longer than 30-06

>>32126952
Worldwide, 12ga. More rounds of 12ga are produced than all other calibers (including .22lr) combined.

.22lr is a very distant second. 5.56x45 is an even more distant third.

>>32129342
If you take the fallower out a lot. Enough to survive any situation.

>>32129362
for britbongs who cant hit anything and need to spray their target at short range

>>32127145
>Hunting is meme
you can hunt with 556 and 762

>>32129372
Britbongs. Lol

>>32126895
this. whatever you can afford the most of and whatever you are better at shooting with. be it 12ga or any medium rifle round.

>>32128774
Assuming that regardless of caliber you have you have a 0% chance of resupply, it'd be a good option.

Don't forget speed of follow-up shots due to less recoil.

The 6mm and 6.5mm bullets also penetrate extremely well due to high SD's. .260rem and 6.5CM are gaining a lot of popularity for elk (yet 7mm-08 is considered too little and .308 is considered barely adequate most places), and 6.5x55 has been a long-standing moose caliber.

>>32129281
>>32128882
Caliber is correct and accepted terminology. There are multiple definitions for the word, it doesn't strictly and exclusively mean bore diameter.

>>32129372
>slugs don't exist
>literally every animal on the planet hasn't been killed with a 12ga shotgun at least once
>hurr britbongs
I'm betting your next post will contain the word "cuck"

>>32126800
8x57 IS

>>32126800
whatever you have the most of

>>32129461
That shit isn't available anywhere other than the internet NOW, you seriously expect to find it during SHTF?

Also, if you want an awkward and expensive spear that badly nuggets are still cheaper than mausers.

>>32129420
As a follow-on:
Unless you live in grizzly/brown/kodiak bear country, a .243 is even better.
>even lighter ammo
>even less recoil
>1200m+ capable with factory match ammo from a sporter-barreled hunting rifle (107gr SMK FGMM)
>truly devastating expansion/fragmentation from the <90gr tipped bullets while achieving sufficient penetration for all game animals in North America that aren't the aforementioned bears (includes hog, moose, and black bear)
A side benefit is it's much more established than the 6.5's in the US, meaning you can find it everywhere. Not that that matters for "wilderness" survival.

>>32129529
I feel like a .243 would be on the light side for elk and moose though.

>>32129420
>Caliber is correct and accepted terminology. There are multiple definitions for the word, it doesn't strictly and exclusively mean bore diameter.

Absolutely fucking not. Lol.

>>32129420
>.308 is considered barely adequate most places
A 180 grain .308 bullet has a sectional density of 0.271
A 140 grain .264 bullet has a sectional density of 0.287

Yes, a 260 Rem has a slightly higher SD (.016 or 6%), but not enough to offset 40 grains more weight (28%) and 36% greater frontal area in the 308.

>>32129529
.243 has never been a good round, it really wastes too much powder for very little results. a much better choice is the 6mm PPC ( 7.62x39 necked down to 6mm), yes its rare, but when SHTF the only thing available is what you have. 6mm PPC is very comfy to shoot, extremely accurate, and capable of taking a deer with heaver bullets. Quite simply the best round you can have in a gun fight

>>32126910
>>32126923
>>32129305
Because its so common, It will be easy to find in other peoples homes or other trading other 'survivors'.

Found the newfags, go back to lurking

>>32129781
>will rely on finding magic bullets during the happenings instead of just buying 15000 rounds right now
Ayy lmao. Speaking of newfags.

>>32126800
Just get one gun for every caliber so you can use any ammo you find

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>>32126800
7.5x55mm Swiss

10mm. Glock 20.
>Do everything pistol round, hunting? Check, SD? Check.
>Most 10mm can use .40 cuck.

5.56. AR-15.

12G.
Mossburg 590 with bayonet.

>>32126800
Whichever caliber your firearms are chambered is the best ammo to have, nigga.

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>>32129781
if you're going to spout nonsense, at least don't actually believe it, and tell people to stop posting if they disagree with you. if I had to choose between an AK-74 and 5000 rounds of 5.45, or an AR-15 and 3000 rounds of 5.56, I'd pick the AK easily because I have 2000 rounds more. if SHTF, you don't want to be scavenging/trading for ammo. pic related, a guy who actually went through shit hitting the fan.

>>32130972

>this asshole thinks that 10mm glocks can even come close to a hot loaded 357

my sides!!!!

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>all these dum-dums ITT caring about ammo availability when you can just reload any caliber except rimfires which anyone with two brain cells is going to do when shit starts cooking off for real

lever guns and bolt actions will be the post-apocalyptic kings

>>32131065
>lever guns and bolt actions will be the post-apocalyptic kings

And the humble .38 Caliber Revolver.

>>32131022
Good job posting the 4 aunts version.

Anyway his story was discredited awhile ago.

>>32131065
>lever guns and bolt actions will be the post-apocalyptic kings

why

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>>32127014

>>32127014

So much bait

>>32127014
Agreed. Well...in the US. probably different in Eastern Europe or something.

>>32127145
Shotguns don't do anything better than other firearms besides killing birds and doors.

>>32129362
Got a source for that?

>9mm
>7.62x39mm
>12 gauge
These are universal calibers and are guaranteed to exist as long as there are guns.

Is there any evidence on how .223/5.56 surpasses 7.62x39 in quantity/availability?

>>32131152

>7.62x39mm
>universal cartridge

Pretty much only guns chambered in that are combloc milsurps for the most part.

>>32131175
And combloc milsurps are all over the planet.

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>>32131152
>guaranteed to exist as long as there are guns
>7.62x39

It isn't 1970 anymore there guy. Without standard use by a world superpower, that round will go the way of the dinosaur in 100 years.

If you were rich, you could stock up on a superior caliber and have enough ammo to last you for years.