So Ameri/k/ans, how do you feel about the US Navy launching a ship named after a gun grabber?
The navy hasn't done any serious combat since WW2
Shit happens
>>32121107
Fitting that it should be a ship that's essentially unarmed.
>>32121107
I don't really give a shit who a naval vessel is named after.
Though I personally think ships shouldn't be named after people at all. If I were in charge, we'd either name ships after cities and states, or just choose random cool-sounding words like the Royal Navy does.
>Ywn witness a ship named the USS Iron Pulpit being launched
>>32121107
Kek
I worked at Austal Ships. Enjoy your piece of shit boat while it still floats.
Someone should test shoot it with a 9mm to see if it'll cripple the ship and cause it to list heavily to port.
>LCS named after a stroke victim
If the shoe fits...
>>32121159
USS Boaty McBoatface?
>>32121148
what do you want from such a tiny vessel? to carry a full battery of 16" guns?
Are there 2 difference types of LCS and if so, why?
>>32121221
How about a single 6" gun?
>>32121107
I don't really care. At this point Giffords is the modern Jim Brady and it doesn't surprise me if her getting fucked in that attack like she did wasn't good news for the gun grabbers seeing how Jim an d Sarah Brady were already going to pass away soon.
>>32121107
>US Navy launching a ship named after a gun grabber
USS Ronald Reagan
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/03/29/opinion/why-i-m-for-the-brady-bill.html
>>32121240
One is for the Iran style doctrine that won the Millennium Challenge 2002. Another is for the Chinese doctrine in the SEA region.
>>32121248
what you got against the bofors 57?
>>32121270
Don't dere to put dirt on a hero of the conservatives!
>>32121107
I installed the compass on that
Spent the money earned on my son's first AR-15.
>>32121302
The part where it's trash and literally performs worse than a 30mm gun.
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/archives/2014/10/13/experts-question-us-navy-s-decision-to-swap-out-ddg/78531898/
>>32121189
Thanks, I almost spilled my drink.
>>32121270
Alzheimers is a hell of a thing.
>>32121347
so you would have a peashooter instead of a multipurpose gun with 3 times the range on a ship because it's somewhat better at ciws role?
>>32121426
Yeah... No. Reagan was for some gun restrictions. This wasn't uncommon amongst conservative leaders before the 90s.
>>32121159
USS Hold Your Fire, She's One of Ours
>>32121431
No, I'd rather have a 6" gun with 5 times the range of the 57 that makes it a credible threat to other surface ships as well as able to provide fire support to ground troops, especially if there's a handful of them in the area.
>>32121484
not even destroyers sport 6" gun these days the 5" on the burke is more than enough.
you seem to be confused. an lcs will never be credible threat to any real surface warship it's main role is to fight improvised missile boats maybe even proper facs, but mostly harass smugglers.
>>32121490
>not even destroyers sport 6" gun these days
They do, though.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Gun_System
>>32121490
>It was "envisioned to be a networked, agile, stealthy surface combatant capable of defeating anti-access and asymmetric threats in the littorals."
so basically a mine picking ship, and it only has to defeat fishing boats boarded by savages using heavy machine-guns and rpgs.
>navy
>>32121500
>Johnson so high in all of them
I thought it was a joke that American military is made up of retards.
>>32121492
really? which destroyer has it exactly?
>>32121516
I guess reading is hard.
>The Advanced Gun System is a naval gun system developed and produced by BAE Systems Armaments Systems (formerly United Defense) for the Zumwalt-class destroyer of the United States Navy.
>>32121159
>random cool-sounding words like the Royal Navy does.
This. Particularly the ship of the line names.
>>32121529
sorry no zumwalt has it
>>32121545
and if i remember correctly the gun was also canceled/postponed indefinitely because of magazine costs.
>>32121509
Why the fuck would they vote for an isolationist who literally wants to dismantle the US government including its military?
>>32121107
A boat named after a gun grabber made by a company based in... Australia.
>>32121509
>I thought it was a joke that American military is made up of fags.
fify. They heard Johnson and put a cross below it.
Is there going to be a USS Obama?
I feel like that's going to be a thing.
>>32121545
>>32121563
There's only one Zumwalt at the moment, and it has two of them. They just cancelled the Gucci bullets because they scaled back from 50-something guns firing them to 6. It can still fire dumb shells, though. If they were to stick the gun on the LCS, it would be cheaper to buy the guided shells than cruise missiles again, and they could put them into production.
So it's a change that wouldn't just make the useless $300m LCS useful, it would also make the useless $7b Zumwalt useful.
>>32121545
Look at the fucking photo of the ship you moron
>>32121649
yeah that's my point i don't see any guns on that pic or any pic i looked at so far for that matter
>>32121107
>naming a ship that breaks down all the time after this
https://youtu.be/tV0S7SWtieY?t=112
>>32121657
They're inside the two triangle things in the front. Apparently gun barrels aren't stealthy.
>>32121182
So you did a great job building it?
>>32121350
>ship on patrol
>takes ASM to bridge
>6 months of repairs
>still...floating?
>>32121500
>Military spending bill gets passed
>Trump support reaches 90% in Army, Navy and Muhreens
>Coast Guard is disbanded :^)
>>32121618
President names are usually for aircraft carriers. The first three of the Gerald Ford class have already got names, so we won't get USS Barack Obama before ~2030 at the very earliest.
How long before the command bridge takes a round?
>>32121819
will they paint the ship black?
>>32121817
Why would the CG get disbanded?
>>32121837
because a huge wall at sea would take it's place ala pacific rim
>>32121107
Her name will yet again be tied to guns, this time much bigger ones potentially used to blow up minorities for god emperor Trump. I can live with it.
you gotta be fucking kidding me. we need to start a change.org petition to change that fucking name
Ok it's not really against the rules to name it after her, it's a known political calculation.
Her connection to navy is her husband was a navy aviator and astronaut.
She was a target because of her job. The flake shot the most accessible government officials he could get too. She received her injuries in the line of duty so to speak.
She was a blue dog that wanted immigration reform and tougher rules on immigration.
In 2008 Giffords opposed Washington D.C. prohibitions on possession of handguns in the home and having usable firearms there, signing an amicus brief with the U.S. Supreme Court to support its overturn
Maybe she is a good name choice?
>>32122067
All of her antigun stuff was after the shooting. She has a chunk of her head gone and is probably rightfully a interested party.
>>32121240
At first it was to test hull shapes, make two of each, put them out to sea and see which one worked better...
But then it turned into a Senators work program and as such they keep making both even though the triple hull is better.
>>32122093
Yeah, desu even if I was shot I'd probably have a change a heart about gun ownership.
The ship name is fine, and you can't really be mad at her.
>>32122117
catamaran is NOT superior in any way
>1.HMS Iron Duke
>2.HMS Artful
>3.HMS Warspite
>4.HMS Ambush
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>9000. HMS Rodney
>9001. HMS Duncan
>>32122001
Her husband is butt buddies with wook-chaser General Petraeus. That name is staying.
Shouldn't be named after someone while they are alive. And ideally I agree with >>32121159 , name them after famous battles in US history, states like we did before, cities, ectera.
Granted yeah "USS Iwo Jima" and "USS Fallujah" can be a bit odd.
>>32121509
Before the aleppo comment most prob just knew him as weedlmao less government protest vote.
>>32121819
>We'll get a USS trump before we're ded unless he disgraces himself like Nixon.
neat.jpg
>>32122125
Can understand a change of view to keeping guns from the crazies even more strictly, but not the full retarding she's done with just opting into the usual talking points of muh salt guns muh high capacity klips.
>>32121639
>$300m LCS
Latest batch is 562 mil
>>32121159
Could we five a few of them names if Culture Vessels?
didn't that bitch survive? shame
>>32122162
>8999 HMS Chamberlain
>>32122215
culture books are shit, dumbass commie post-scarcity garbage, and humans are pets to AI's..
>>32121107
>how do you feel about the US Navy launching a ship named after a gun grabber?
disgusted in our elected leadership
>>32121834
It would be silly not too.
>>32122161
Got some sauce on that bud?
>>32121107
>how do you feel about the US Navy launching a ship named after a gun grabber?
She didn't grab it quickly enough, as I recall.
>>32122162
>HMS Rodney
Rodney was a great admiral, you swine.
https://youtu.be/5EUshXQaZGA
Even India has a better gun.
I'm fine with it because its one of the shit LCS hulls built by Mississippi illiterates.
>>32121578
If the military goes away, my contract is over and I can move on with life past the shit hole of a job that is the military. I voted Trump though
>>32121500
>Nearly 50% for Trump in the Corps
>>32121509
Probably has something to do with not wanting to get blown up in bumfuck nowhere for no reason decided upon by a bunch of neverserved nobodies.
I bet servicemen would fucking love a return to the 80s where it was all training exersices and chest thumping against a nearly dead Big Bad (TM), with exception of a few quickly resolved police actions in scenic locales.
>>32121107
>US gunship armed with middle launchers and guns that could blow a small city off the face of the earth
I'd say it's almost a tongue in cheek insult.
It is bad luck to name ships after living people.
>>32122317
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>>32121141
The only ship they have that has sunk another is constitution
>>32121639
>They just cancelled the Gucci bullets because they scaled back from 50-something guns firing them to 6. It can still fire dumb shells, though.
The likely scenario is the USN will buy Excalibur rounds since they are already below $100k each.
>>32121666
It is the Freedom class that has had problems with its complex engine setup.
>>32121159
>ywn serve on board H.M.S. I'll Glass Ya, Ya Cunt
Does getting randomly shot in the head by some crazy person make you a hero?
>>32122162
>9002 HMS Hood
Why do these things never seem to have an even coating of paint on them? They all just look so blotchy and terrible.
>>32124256
they dont have paint, they are aluminum
>>32124256
>Why do these things never seem to have an even coating of paint on them? They all just look so blotchy and terrible.
Probably because salt water is corrosive as fuck.
>>32121107
It will work as well as her plans.
>>32121107
It's crippled just like her.
>>32124256
Good enough for government work
>>32121107
Wait, this really happened? I swear I read an onion article on this. Also, that ship is fucking hideous. At least they picked a butt ugly ship to name after that faggot Giffords
>>32121159
USS It's Comin Right For Us?
>>32124256
why so ugly...god damn, looks like a kid with down
>get shot by a crazy guy
>blame it on AR15's
>get a ship named after you
>be retarded for the rest of your life
This woman's life is just a trainwreck from start to finish.
>>32121500
>Trump that high in the Marines
I knew Marines were the dumbest branch, but come on
>>32121618
>>32121819
Oh Jesus, are we going to eventually get a USS Donald Trump?
>>32124416
>that ship is fucking hideous
What does that have to do with anything? Seriously?
>>32121107
>naming a ship without guns on it
sounds fitting tbqhf
>>32121159
U.S.S Pokemon go to the poles
>>32123248
Excaliber wasn't designed for the Navy in mind. HVP will be used.
>>32121107
>First enemy shot at it hits the bridge
>>32124256
It's camouflaged to blend in the desert dumbass
>>32122170
uss barack obama
>>32122270
fuck you. there's the fall revolution quartet by ken mcleod if you like you scifi communists a bit grittier.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spacecraft_in_the_Culture_series
>>32121159
USS Sheeeeeeit Nigga
>>32124589
One can only dream.
>>32121290
>One is for the Iran style doctrine that won the Millennium Challenge 2002
...lying?
>>32121107
so far shes only successfully grabbed the bullets
>>32121159
>I don't really give a shit who a naval vessel is named after.
This. They fucked naming convention when it became a political bargaining point.
Democrats started it with the 'JFK', Republicans then petitioned for 'Reagan' and President Clinton acquiesced only if CVN-75 could be 'Truman' instead of it planned 'United States'.
CVN-80 is supposed to be Enterprise and there are rumors CVN-81 could be Clinton or even Obama.
>>32121107
I hope it sinks
>>32124579
yea ok mr. 30% for johnston
Johnston was a clown who intentionally acted stupid to lose votes because his paymasters told him he was stealing votes from Clinton
Obummer might as well do what he wants to deep down inside and launch the USS Fidel Castro.
>>32125608
79 is JFK (again)
80 is Enterprise
>>32121107
> build deadly high tech warship
> name it after a ding-bat politician who was too stupid to duck…
It’s a fucking embarrassment and if I were assigned to the USS Dumb Cunt, I would resign my commission.
Who thought that was a good name?!
“Gabrielle Dee Giffords was born and grew up Tucson, Arizona, to Gloria Kay (née Fraser) and Spencer J. Giffords. She was raised in a mixed religious environment by her Jewish father and Christian Science-practicing mother. Her grandfather, Akiba Hornstein, was a Jewish immigrant from Lithuania who changed his name to Giffords to avoid anti-Semitism. Through her father, Giffords is a second cousin of actress Gwyneth Paltrow. Giffords has identified herself solely with Judaism since 2001, belonging to Congregation Chaverim, a Reform synagogue, in Tucson. She was Arizona's first Jewish congresswoman.”
Oh, that explains it...
Well, maybe President Trump will sign an executive order stipulating;
No military item can be named after a living person
No military item can ben named after a non-veteran
All military items must have a bad ass and/or cool name
>>32124294
>they dont have paint, they are aluminum
Aluminum can be anodized.
A retarded ship named after a retarded bitch.
Nice one boys.
>>32126598
The British should be in charge of naming American warships.
>>32121657
You can't see them because it's so stealthy.
>>32126720
You know I'd be fine with famous american cities, states, and state capitals.
What the fuck has this bitch done other than get fucking shot?
>>32121221
>LCS
>"such a tiny vessel"
It's longer and wider than many Cold War Era destroyers, and displaces almost twice what most destroyers laid down in the 1945-1955 timeframe did
>Independence class is 127.4 meters (418ft) long, 31.6 meters (104ft) wide, and displaces 3104 metric tons (3427 US tons) at combat load
>>32126747
>You know I'd be fine with famous american cities, states, and state capitals.
*meh* Even that's kinda lame.
Meanwhile, the Brits have names like Indefatigable, Renown and Gay Viking.
>What the fuck has this bitch done other than get fucking shot?
She's a Jewish woman politician...
>>32121618
USS Obama
The construction of which will be partly outsourced to Kenya.
>>32127186
Doh ho ho.
>>32127194
That one was for the Donald!