Cuban revolution

>Cuba winning
I got nothing aside from their high literacy rates. Definitely got nothing /k/ related for sure.

>>32120514
fuck exporting cuban guns

i want at their vintage cars

>>32120539

OP here, I meant talking about the cuban revolution, bay of pigs, and Cuban missile crisis.

>>32120556

Cuba makes its own guns?

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>>32120514

Cuba has a bunch of old and outdated Soviet tanks that they have rigged into missile platforms.

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>>32120514
>yfw russian surplus
>yfw tons upon tons of parts kit

yes pls, too bad none of this is gonna happen since raul castro is in power and that old fuck isn't gonna die for a while as well.

When I heard the news I was cleaning my M1A, so I lit up a cigar.

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Fuck Castro,

he pulled a real nasty fast one on Based Che Guevara,

Che didn't agree with the path Cuba was going as Castro was rising into power.

>>32121056
>based che

You mean the guy who ran the death camp for kids who listened to too much rock n' roll and other american media?

>>32120514
>communist
>victory

nah

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>>32120836
Ive been googling through pictures of the Cuban Military and it seems they're still rocking the olive drab fatigues 50shit with not a single camo nor even combat fucking helmet, why the fuck is that?

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>>32121444
You're probably looking at ceremonial shit. Cubans rarely deploy nowadays.

That said, they fought in Angola, and did have camo and helmets.

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>Castro died on Pinochet's birthday

What a time to be alive.

>think OPs post is a joke
>he's actually dead
Actually quite a bit surprised. I knew the guy would die soon, but he seemed like he's be around for a while longer to continue bitching at us for whatever reason.

>>32121480
probably realized that Hilary didn't get elected and died of a broken heart

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>>32121453
boer here , my dad fought these assholes in Angola and his friend the recce did reconnaissance on them , said they were just fucking party boys , ill base discipline and a whole lot of other fuckery , he saw how the Cubans would go to local villages without their gear and fuck the woman and girls

this book gives another good example of them

>>32121444
To be honest, probably because they don't need it, for what purpose? If they face any major super power, they can put up a decent fight for a while, sure, but it's all fucked after that, they don't really have any sort of resources and or funding besides just selling some oil or some shit like that. And it's not like they have a threat of war either. That being said they could always go China's route and issue airshit gear lmao, but that's it.

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>>32121460
>Castro died on black friday, a day celebrating shameless capitalism.

>>32121498
Trump isn't even president yet and he's already making headway into uncucking the world.

>>32120514
>So no Taken 4???

>>32120556
>i want at their vintage cars
70 years of nigger-rigging later, you think you do, but you don't.
It would literally be cheaper, faster, and easier to make a reproduction than to restore a car that is 5% original.
And if you only want the frame in order to get vintage/collector/antique plates, then you can just make one yourself and lie about it's age.

Successful revolution, cleans out the criminals, repulses invasion, survives multiple assassination attempts from a superpower that is also paying him rent, gets a sweet deal from another superpower, no internal coups, ran a successful tourist business, got away with the Cuban Missile Crisis, manufactures world's best cigars and died of an old age.

Castro was an epic winner.

>>32120514
Bay of Pigs 2.0 soon lads.

This time with navy seals.

Celebrating a commie's death is always a fun occasion.

Cheers to the death!

>>32121444
Niggers.

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>>32120514
>dies on Pinochet's birthday and on a day that celebrates mass consumerism.
I guess the universe has a sense of humor

>>32121194
I think he meant the that ruined Cuban economy.

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and this guys still around even tho he older

>>32122538
>US marines loosing another attempted invasion.

kek

>>32121504
A Greater Share of Honor also describes that.

Everybody likes to say the Cubans did great, but in reality they had the piss kicked out of them.

>>32122759
I'm gonna laugh when they celebrate this nigger as saviour when he bites the dust.

>>32122480

This.

I'm a Canadian who restores classic cars and I've been to Cuba. Yeah, there are some gems down there BUT there's also a LOT of junk held together by imagination, Communist parts of unknown quality and origin and bad welding. It would be a colossal money pit trying to put one of those junkers back together properly.

Add to that the fact that cars get passed down as family heirlooms and you have owners thinking they're entitled to stupid amounts of money just because they kept that shit running for so long.

>>32122824
You know, I can't really blame them though. If I had a car that my family had passed down and managed to keep running for 70 years without proper parts, I'd be pretty attached to it too.

>>32122844
>>32122844
>>32122844
That means you are just as retarded as those commies. This mentality is why Texas gun trader is shit.

>>32122865
100% agree with this I have a cut down shotgun my grandfather got to defend his laundromat when he came over, I would never sell it and it is held together with fucked up screws and on of the mainsprings is literally a filed down nailclipper, I would never sell it because it represents his hardship but I also appraise it's value for about 50 bucks and maybe a carton of cigs, people who try to sell their nostalgia are retarded, the story of him pulling it on a group of niggers during the LA riots is worth nothing monetarily.

>>32122823
fuck I did security for a Boer who is ex slous scout , when he came over he took a lot of his guys with him , ex RAR and turned terrorist , any way some Zimbabweans rocked up looking for work on his farm because the locals (southafricans) told him he had zimz working for him , I asked them why they came to south Africa when Mugabe gave them land to farm , the fucking look on their faces , even the ex black selous scouts laughed at them

How do you fuck up so many assasination attempts?

>>32120514
>Communists only win when they die and their foe, The Great Capitalist Satan, persists to wallow in its own shit

Bittersweet, Commie fucks.

>>32120556
>i want at their vintage cars


Cuba: Central America's time capsule.

>>32123029
Fucking wiley e coyote doing the assassination plots

>>32121194
so he was like Big Boss?

>>32120539
I can go through their most famous victory at the Bay of pigs as a case study of a massive failure. Quick and dirty.

-the original plan was started under Ike with a much wider scope, more groups inside, more military aid provided.

-DGI aka Cuban intel agents were already inside Brigade 2506 as they grouped up

-Cuban intelligence knew of the invasion due to this but only the general idea. At least the CIA compartmentalized it.

-JFK approved it to be much smaller as they were going to do the beach landing at Trinidad.

-Landing at Trinidad would have been hard but closer to the escambray mountains full of anti Castro rebels. Trinidad itself had a large prison and lingering anti Castro sentiment due to this prison. This location alone would have greatly improved their chances. If it went bad they could have done what Castro did during his disaster gamma landing and ran for the mountains.

-JFK decides this would be too "loud"

-beach landing goes ahead for bay of pigs at the last minute

-exposed beach surrounded by swamps

-literally couldn't pick a worse spot

-Cubans ha no idea how this was going to work but figured at least they have air support

-landing is quickly surrounded by a little under a quarter of million Cuban troops

-lol no air support

-quick military defeat and propels Castro as the icon he turned into

It's almost as if someone wanted this to fail.

>>32123259

>It's almost as if someone wanted this to fail.

Yeah, almost looks that way doesn't it?

>>32122525
>Castro was an epic winner.

communist leader
dies on black friday
his capitalist enemy's biggest day of commerce.
oh the irony.
epic fail

>>32122844

The final bit of legislation which makes up the embargo was signed in 1962 which is 54 years, not 70. The newest American car I saw down there was a '60 Chevy while the oldest was a '29 Ford.

>>32122630
He had one last helicopter ride in him.

Best thing we ever did for South America.

>>32120514
He was dictator So fuck you

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>>32120514
Just think, Obama had to not be a faggot for like 2 more years and he would have never seen the US relent.

>>32121460
>>32121591
Truly amazing time to be alive.

>>32121056
Che was a kid fucking shithead thug.

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>>32120514
>>32121056
>>32122525
>>32122759

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>>32120514
>tfw we never invaded Cuba
>tfw JFK opted for Cuban exiles instead of US troops
>tfw we never got to enjoy all that Cuban poontang

>>32121194
>the death camp for kids who listened to too much rock n' roll
citation needed

>>32124940
I rather think about Castro living just long enough to see a new president who has pro Cuban exile leanings come to power right before he died.
>>32125295
This was from Che's own prison camp post revolution on the western end of the island. It was bad enough Castro shut it down before too many people started complaining.

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>>32125023
tfw we never annexed a nice climate island to be the 51st state

Bay of Pigs would have succeeded if Kennedy didn't pussy out at the last second and called off the air support

>>32125384
>tfw that kind of attitude is exacty why Castro hated the US

>>32122630
At the very least it knows that people who have a hard-on for hating commies are easily impressed.

>>32121194
Sounds like 50s tier red scare bullshit

>>32120514
Get your info straight. They came to the US government first to get backing to try to overthrow a dirty government, the last of antebellum businesses. Sugar and tobacco.Then there was oil.

>>32127570
Yes, Castro hating the US is some kind of important thing.

Sometimes people place too much importance on Cuba.

>>32127979
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guanahacabibes_Peninsula
>Guanahacabibes was the site of Cuba's first forced labor camp, started at the end of 1960.

This where the labor camp was located at. It was Che's own project.

>>32124500

He lived to die peacefully of old age in the country still run by the government he built.

Florida-cuban exiles will be salty forever.

The dude won.

>>32128600
Communism as a ideology has failed. All of Cuba's allies , especially Chavez's Venezuela are collapsing under the weight of their own "socialism", Castro won. His ideology didn't.

>>32128600
The dude won in his lifetime. Soon Raul and the rest of the gerontocracy will be dead, and with it Communism in Cuba. I admire his tenacity and his ability to keep it together, but he and the rest of Communist Cuba are archaic remnants of a bygone era. The rest of the world has passed them by.

>>32128715
>>32128725

Hey, if his legacy includes keeping cuban national assets out of the hands of exiles, a state with socialist aspects, and a continuous government. Than thats a victory for his ideology too.

>>32128757
>Victory for his ideology
You mean the one that's been disappearing from the world since the 90's? I don't see a whole lot of commies anymore, do you?

>>32128600
They were enjoying themselves last night while the tru-cubans starved.

>>32128766
Yeah, in cuba.

And China.

And Vietnam.

>>32128823
Vietnamese here, our country isn't communist anymore lol

And China? Honestly?

>>32128823
>In Cuba
See my point here
>>32128725
When the rest of the old fucks die, it will be downhill for the Cuban communists
>China
Yes, though in a very heavily modified format. I'll accede that
>Vietnam
For now, I predict in about 50-60 years that might no be the case.
>>32128835
If I may ask, how open is your country these days? Also if I visit will people give me shit for being American?

>>32128919
Vietnam has been open for tourism since the 00s, we have Fedex and DHL services here.

>>32128939
I see. So you guys can get to 4chan freely? Only reason I ask is I'm unsure of what you guys can get on the web as compared to the Chinese.

>>32128954
Uh, yes, the government is incompetent, as opposed to the chink.

Tbh, any country is a communist country if it is supposedly working towards achieving communism as predicted by Marx.

There really is no set definition of what a "communist country" is supposed to be, except that it involves socialism.

Now, Marxist-leninism has more of a concrete definition and parameters.

>>32128982
There is no fucking communist country today.

It's a fucking joke, m8.

The SJW commies are right, these countries are just holding the socialist name due to tradition (how they got into power).

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>yfw Cuba might still have a few FALs
>yfw they might have some captured Johnsons used in the Bay of Pigs

>>32121453
They also fought Somalia, took part in some heliborne operations alongside VDV to retake Ethiopia's eastern border.

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>>32128997
>There is no fucking communist country today.

Yeah, communists are trying to achieve communism, so the 'communist states' could be more accurately described as 'states who supposedly are trying to transition to communism one of these days'. But just summing them up as 'communist countries' saves a bunch of words.

Note that there are marxist communists and non-marxist communists (its a concept older than Marx), furthermore, all Marx did was make predictions. It was Lenin and friends who came up with such things like one-party states and the vanguard party.

Anyways, what is communist and what isn't is actually a really complex subject.

>>32128965
>government is incompetent
I had a hunch, guess I was mostly right. Bit of a random question but how did you end up here on /k/?
>>32128982
Realistically though few countries ever experimented outside of either the Maoist or Marxist-Leninist lines of government. While I do have a strong dislike of all things communist, I would've found it interesting if some country had decided to do a very different take on the idea and see where that had gone, but then you run into the whole "no true Communism" problem.
>>32129060
How large was the force that Cuba sent to Somalia?

>>32129098
Just saying, on the matter of /k/, Marx is pro civilian armament. His reasoning is that everyone should have something when business goons come knocking on people's doors.

>>32122440
I see it too.

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>>32120514
Who else wants to start up the 1st United States Volunteer Mechanized Cavalry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalry_mechanized_group
>technicals supported by a "calvalry" division of men on dirtbikes/atvs
IE RoughRiders2.0

Cuban Civil War when

>>32129098
There is no country that tries to achieve communism nowadays.

Not even "Rojava".

Get that through your thick head.

>>32129125
Dozens of planes, maybe a few battalions of ground forces? I read it from /k/planes.
http://kplanes.tumblr.com/post/140035219215/k-planes-episode-94-cripple-fight

>>32129125
>I had a hunch, guess I was mostly right. Bit of a random question but how did you end up here on /k/?
Been on 4chan for anime, stayed for the politics and guns.

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You can love him or hate him, but you gotta give some respect to a guy that manage to give the middle finger to the US and live for 60 years after.

>also two rolexes at once

>>32129132
Marx is pro worker arming.

He doesn't support the "bourgeois" owning guns.

>>32129098
And that is a different debate, what Castro had was a model for other Latin America counties to be. He used to send out expeditionary forces for this purpose(most failed).

Venezuela took his shit literally and Venezuela is the biggest ongoing disaster in latin America. So much for Castro's legacy.

>>32129201
I don't respect the fucker because Kennedy pussied out of the Bay of Pigs.

It's the weakness of the US, not the strength of Castro that keeps him in power.

>>32129125
>Realistically though few countries ever experimented outside of either the Maoist or Marxist-Leninist lines of government. While I do have a strong dislike of all things communist, I would've found it interesting if some country had decided to do a very different take on the idea and see where that had gone, but then you run into the whole "no true Communism" problem.

There was the various anarcho-communist attempts, but those might not be considered 'countries' per say.

For example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Territory

And also, most modern communists outside of Russia and China and stuff don't seem to have a particular high regard for 'communist states' attempted in the past, like the USSR.

>>32121444
Through their proxy Chavez, Cuba conquered Venezuela (1/4 of our oil earnings go directly to Cuba as basically tribute). And they made our armed forces give up M81 Woodland and switch to Olive Drab with those Cuban style hats. It's a commie symbolism thing in Latin America.

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>>32129098
>Anyways, what is communist and what isn't is actually a really complex subject.
Not really, communism can simply be summed up as pic related.

>>32129145
I'm hard just thinking about a Mad Max calvary

>>32122768
>implying Bay of Pigs wouldn't have succeeded if actual US marines or military was used.

Lol just ask Grenada or Panama.

You must be some dumbfuck to think Cuba stood a chance against the USA in its own carribean pond.

>>32129201
>>also two rolexes at once

>money stolen from Cuban people

>most of whom were killed or exiled forever

>>32128965
Incompetent communists are basically capitalists because it means they suck at the whole police state thing and take western democratic bribes.

Nice.

>>32121531

They fought off the US of A while being right next to them. That alone should be enough to give them SOME pride in their military.

>>32128919

m8, Vietnam has been our allies for multiple decades now.

>>32130407
>most of the Cuban people were killed or exiled
Well that's just not true is it. Although if it's is Pol Pot will be pissed that his records broken.

>>32122986
I would happily buy cases of beer to hear some of the stories they have. I've only read about some of it, I couldn't imagine it being heard from the horse's mouth.

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>>32129351
Simon Bolivar weeps.

>Che Guevara made broomstick molotovs that were shot out of shotguns, and thats impressive.

>>32131157
How?

Just asking for a friend.

>>32131785
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifle_grenade