Are war journalists /k/?

No. They suck up supplies and don't contribute

>>32120165
not very /k/ at all, they are more like witnesses of /k/ shit. They prefer to witness gangster shit and not be apart.

But ive always been curious if a reporter has ever had to nut up and pick up a gun to fight.

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>>32120165
No

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>>32120411
Dickey Chapelle was actually KIA in Vetnam. She was actually based as fuck.

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>>32120551
This is her receiving her last rites.

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Also Kate Webb

They are the storytellers, some are /k/.

They fight the good fight overall, except for what has become of modern day journalism.

>>32120165
Not Western journalists
They always focus on gay shit
>Muh children
>muh widows and crying women
>muh "artistic" shot showing some shit like flower growing near barbed wire or something dumb like that

>>32120165
>journalists

You would have had to do a bit more than point a gun at me to have one of those dick suckers in my unit.
We hated them.

>>32120566
Well this got a little too real too fast.

>>32120551
>got into MIT classes at 16
>decide she wants to learn to fly planes rather than design them
>was with marines during Iwo Jima
>learned how to jump from paratroopers
>killed in vietnam after getting shrapnel to the neck from someone tripping a booby trap

>>32120761
10/10
earned her spot in the /k/oven

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>>32120165
Martha Gellhorn was /k/ as fuck.
>went to see the Spanish Civil War
>married Ernest Hemingway
>reported on Winter War
>was forbidden to report on the D-Day landings
>stowed away on hospital ship and went anyway
>was the only woman on all of the beaches
>went along with Allies at the liberation of Dachau
>went to Israel, Vietnam, El Salvador, and a shitton of other countries to check out the wars
>was always known as a chainsmoking rebel

>>32120411
>They prefer to witness gangster shit and not be apart.

Like 99% of /k/, who'd rather sit on the internet and fantasize instead of operating?

>>32120974
None of that is /k/ at all, she was just a special snowflake too good to follow orders

Hemingway actually led a group of French Resistance fighters while documenting the war. But pretty much his entire life was an action movie.

>>32120165
No, they are self serving assholes who will lie and exaggerate at the drop of a hat just to become well known

>>32121120
jealous? : ^ )

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>>32121132
you must be autistic, you just described every human being ever.

>>32120411
>But ive always been curious if a reporter has ever had to nut up and pick up a gun to fight.
I'd say being unarmed in that situation would take more courage.

>>32120165
Journalists aren't where the news is, news is where the journalists are.

Yugoslav wars are a good example of when military strategy started to exploit news reporters for political gain.

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Yes

>>32121571
SERPENTINE!

>>32121534
>hitler had a framed picture of himself next to his bath
Shocker.

>>32121629
For when he wanted to bust out a cheeky wank innit.

>>32120411
The reporter embedded with marine first recon in Iraq 2003. I mean the guy who wrote the book that became generation kill, they don't show it in the series but at one point he had to use Ray's M4 and cover a sector while he drove. When talking about the useless priest marine Colbert says "when push comes to shove even rolling stone picks up a gun" which is an allusion to this.
Also, there's a short documentary on yt about British army pathfinder platoon, and before the patrol the journalist and cameraman were trained to use the vehicle weapons in case they took casualties. Never had to though.

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No. They are only good for randomly exploding so their obnoxious friends back home can villianize everyone who is actually contributing to combat.

And their friends love covering each other's ass when they get exposed for lying.

All journalists are narcissists who want to BE the story.

>>32120165

Yes. It takes balls to choose to go out to a warzone unarmed and try to tell the story to a public who will probably just shrug and switch to ESPN.

Especially today. Back in the day the agencies and papers had no problem spending oodles of cash to get their correspondents out to the hot spots and made sure they had proper equipment/fixers/back up in case shit went south. Nowadays the situation is fucked, news outlets either rely on freelancers - who, as events in the middle east demonstrate, are completely fucked if they get taken - or are just spoonfed stuff from the State Department. Boston Globe did a good article on this.

>Under intense financial pressure, most American newspapers, magazines, and broadcast networks have drastically reduced their corps of foreign correspondents. Much important news about the world now comes from reporters based in Washington. In that environment, access and credibility depend on acceptance of official paradigms. Reporters who cover Syria check with the Pentagon, the State Department, the White House, and think tank “experts.” After a spin on that soiled carousel, they feel they have covered all sides of the story. This form of stenography produces the pabulum that passes for news about Syria.

Also please don't confuse some talking head anchorman who flies into Iraq for three days with an actual War Correspondent.

Marie Colvin, Sebastien Junger, Tim Hetherington, Michael Yon, Orla Guerin and Tim O'Brien are all /k/ as fuck.

Peter Nickeas deserves a mention as well, although he's a crime correspondent. Ross Kemp's Afghanistan series is actually really good as well.

>>32121790
>the amount of back patting in this post
Journalism major spotted

People on /k/ are basement dwellers and don't have the balls to either be a war correspondent or a marine. Asking them about this subject is futile.

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>>32120165
I'd say yeah.

Aren't /k/ posters, but lurkers. As a deployed Infantryman I think our story should be told. Why not, the American public should know what they are funding.

I was an 0311, when they released the film "Marines at Tarawa" it was controversial because it showed dead Marines. The commandant as well as the President approved it. Freedom of Information. God bless the USA.

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>>32120974
Damn.
A reporter that wasnt an entitled pansy millennial libtard? neat.
>>32121120
Dakota Meyer, Daniel Hellings, and Daniel Sickles, Mr. Fuckface.

>>32120551
Holy shit, the M16 looks huge on her

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>>32121847

Good, wish we had more of them so we'd have more simple documentaries like Restrepo and it's like. Otherwise we're never going to see the costs laid out from both sides back home.

Also, Capa covered the Spanish Civil War, WW2, knew Hemingway, and wasn't afraid of anything.

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>>32121571
I liked how Rolling Stones starts out all sketched out by First Recon, specifically Trombley, and eventually gets more comfortable with them as time went on.

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>>32120165
Volunteered in Syria last year. There was a Dutch war journalist going with my unit for 2 weeks, that guy was funny. We sat on the ground for eating, there's almost no tables in the most villages. That guy wore clothes like he would make a report about a cheese factory in Holland or something, after 2 days his trousers were full of holes, so we gave him uniform trousers. Then he started mourning about wearing a uniform, snipers confusing him for YPG, and what not. When one of the Kurds wanted to give him his AK and take a photo, he really freaked out.
One day, after defending a village for almost 15 hours, we captured one of those Jihadi rats alive. We lost 9 comrades, men and women, and everyone was tired and angry. So of course, that fuckwit received a few hits. Not much tho, and our unit's commander told everyone to stop. That so called war journalist published an article about that "incident", claiming that YPG is torturing their prisoners. Without any report about other incidents besides the one when he was with us.
Also wrote bad stuff about other units he's been with, i don't believe a word.

So, no. I wouldn't say war journalists were /k/.

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>>32121710
At least one did a good job at it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_L._Galloway

Wartime journalist who was awarded the Bronze Star for combat actions in Vietnam. Pretty damn /k/ even in the movie.

>>32122253
We need more journalists like him.

Think about Wolf Blitzer riding and doing hard drugs all night with the Hell's Angels.

>>32120411
Any self respecting war reporter wont touch a weapon as a matter of principle.
reporters are supposed to be impartial. if you pick up a weapon, you become a combatant. Not only have you betrayed your journalistic integrity but you also forfeit certain safeties afforded to you as a non-combatant.
They are there to observe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iZfvDfhHg4&t=1460

No, journalists aren't humans.

>>32122374
>non-whites
>respecting the rules of warfare

>journalist
>integrity


WEW LAD

>>32122339
Definitely agree I doubt we'll ever see anything like him again though, you ever watch the video of him in a shoot out using and artillery luger?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NHeSC_Ws5Ic

>>32120165
Modern embedded reporters are basically paid shills. No thanks.

>>32121534
What boots are those?

Anyone know anything about the Mass Communications Specialist job in the navy?

Basically a navy photographer and journalist. They would be trained to imbed in units too, right? But they could use weapons no problem.

>>32122237
> be recently discharged army vet
> check out colleges
> dad told me about his old journalism days
> read stuff from Hunter S Thompson
> Journalism is badass
> go to collage for journalism
> use my GI Bill
> 1st semester learn sentence formatting, word usage, essay writing, and story perspectives.
> all very informative stuff
> 2nd Semester
> learn about muckraking, and other raw journalism
> then the topic changes and all topics shift
> professor talks about skewing facts to favor one side, covering up lying, sensational, journalism, misinforming and deceiving the public.
> basically how the media really works
> we focus on this for weeks
> I no longer want to live on this planet any more
> I drop out and become a welder instead
> make more money and I don't lie for a living.

Colleges are churning out these little minions by the dump load and everyone of them shitting all over Upton Sinclaire's Grave.

>>32122487
They were always. Its their job. Fun watching them twitch during the election.

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99% of the images and information on this entire board comes from some kind of journalist.

>>32122915
bullshit. and even if it wasn't bullshit, who the fuck cares. but it is bullshit.

>>32122915
Explains why /k/'s content sucks and they post the same pictures over and over

>>32120165
Is that the female governor

>>32122885
>read stuff from Hunter S Thompson
>how the media really works
Mate, Gonzo Journalism is part of the "way" of modern journalism.

It is literally impossible for a journalist to give an objective account of events. The modern "way" is to accept that you will be subjective. Thompson's way accepts and embraces individual subjectivity and experience, and as such is somewhat "honest".

However, honesty doesn't sell as well as sensationalism and skewing facts. Combine the subjective nature of journalism with the hunt for profit, and you get the modern journalism that disturbed you so.

You can not defeat the allure of profit, stop being so idealistic.

>>32122918
Where do you think the images come from? The articles that get linked?

How do you think you find out about anything that's going on in the world?

>>32120165
>Punished Marie Colvin

>>32122918
>bullshit. and even if it wasn't

There's no way to better state that you don't know what you're talking about than to dismiss something then accept that it could be true.

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I've covered wars you know

>>32122918
Nope, they don't actually grow on trees

>>32122951
>>32122954
>>32123032

I was talking about most images on /k/ being taken by the posters themselves, displaying their guns and ranges and shit. And even if not "most", i'm pretty sure that far less than "99%" are taken by private persons.

But even if it wasn't bullshit, that wouldn't be an argument to be posted in this thread. You know, i can critize journalists and their work even without not using any of their photographs.

>>32122951
>implying anyone in this thread said we don't need journalism

>>32122964
Kek I was waiting

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>>32121629
>pic related

>>32123093
>>32122964
Shame the franchise is dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejeIT0MBSac

>>32122073
M16s look huge on almost all women. They're not very small rifles.

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>>32122253
We need more Spider Jerusalems and Hunter Thompsons in this world
>tfw you will never own a bowel disruptor

>>32122560
M43s

>>32122374
>21st century
>certain safeties
Wew

>>32122237
Unrelated to the thread, but how hard was it to get to Rojava? Also how long did you stay?

>>32122885
I was going to be a journalism major, I wanted to be a combat journalist. Then I realized any media group I worked for would just spread lies, and I would be used to spread said lies.
Said fuck and went to study Photography at art school instead. Currently working on turning a couple art libs into pro-guns

Journalists are typically very stupid, very opinionated slacktivists who think that they are going to "blow the lid" off some social crime and become big heroes.

You can notice this by observing how journalists waltz into warzones and pretend they aren't part of the fighting, then they get shot, and all their journalist buddies get up in arms over it and how the press should have total freedoms, even in the most shithole brushfire wars.

>>32123306
>when you get triggered so hard by a man going out to dinner with his family that you post online how much you hate him for free

>>32123280
just 4 months, was kinda hard to get to syria. we took a flight to iraq, were brought into a camp in the mountains, and had to wait to be taken over the border. That big ass river Tigris is the natural border between Northeast Syria/Northwest Iraq, we were dropped off by a car on the highway at night approx 5km from the river and border fence, and had to wander there through fields. It was raining and pitch black, only the guy who led us to the river had NVG. The border fence was pretty impressive, with searchlights and shit. The closer we got, the more i realized it's just show. There were holes everywhere in the fence, and the towers were empty. We got through the fence and were taken over the river by YPG people in a rubber boat. Pretty exciting night.
We got back to Iraq by car, there's a checkpoint on the way to Sinjar where YPG personel can legally cross the border to get to Sinjar. Then we got dropped off on the highway and were picked up by 2 paid Peshmerga officers, who gave us Peshmerga uniform tops and brought us through a dozen of checkpoints back to the mountains north of Mossul,

>>32123360
Why are you trying to troll here on a boom boom submenu of a Mongolian cave painting website?

That's just pathetic dude at least try pol or something.

And so you know, alt-right is Richard Spencer and other literal white nationalists

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>>32123360

>>32123360
1

>>32123399
Oh no, did you get your feeling hurt little guy? I'm sorry, good thing daddy trump is here to make all the bad things go away, right?

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>>32123306

>>32121702
thanks for the info.

>>32120165
just the spies and the ones that shoot when no one is looking.

>>32123428
Nice job huff post

>>32123306
If you seriously can't see an obvious bias in the news then you are dense.

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>>32123306
Is this reddit or autism?

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>>32121790
This. Sebastian Junger was embedded with Marines in Korengal Valley in 2007 and 2008. Otherwise known as "The Valley of Death." He was in his late 40s. A badass and a handsome fuck.

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>>32120165

Oriana Fallaci was as /k/ as a journalist can come.
Was also extremely fierce in hating politically correctness, and had an enormous courage in interviewing dictators and warlords and calling out their bullshit right in front of them.

>>32122948
What you say is true, but most people don't realize that the media's job has shifted from reporting the true story to selling ad space and commercials. Most people believe what they read in the newspaper or see on TV news.

The sooner you realize that the media is merely selling a product, the better.

>>32125132
>Oriana Fallaci

sounds like the Latin name for something really, really kinky. or some italian pornstar.

>>32122462
lmao this is my favorite video of him

>>32123055
Shush, let the historical revisionism happen.

Surprised the film "Point and Shoot" hasnt come up in this thread. It's basically this normie that goes from filming himself to sort of journalist to freedom fighter in the middle east.

>>32126426
>What you say is true, but most people don't realize that the media's job has shifted from reporting the true story to selling ad space and commercials.
That's largely because of the corporate news structure that has emerged in the last 20 or so years.

News was once able to be a 'lost' for TV networks, it didn't have to be catchy or entertaining because the reason people were tuning in was because they wanted the fuckin' news!

The 24 hour news cycle/channels changed that. To get people's attention they had to be entertaining, while also profitable to pay for running them all the time.

And now I keep hearing that most people get their news from fucking Facebook these days. Which is just bad on so many levels I don't know where to start.

>>32122462

The sound of the birdshot hitting that plywood.

Is is bad I want to live on land next to some angry red neck so I can occasionally shoot it out with a red neck with a 12ga loaded with bird with my smith and wesson 38 6" barrel?

Because that sounds like a fun way to burn 2 minutes.

>>32120165
Ernest Hemingway entered the Spanish civil war as a journalist before deciding to remove facist.

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>>32120577
>Kate Webb
>Both her parents were killed when Kate was 18.
>On 30 March 1958, at age 15, [Kate] Webb was charged with the murder of Victoria Fenner, the adopted daughter of Frank Fenner in Canberra. She supplied a rifle and bullets to Fenner and was present when Fenner shot herself. After a Children's Court hearing the charge was dropped.
holy shi--
>Webb was soon hired by UPI and earned a reputation as a hard-drinking, chain-smoking war correspondent: she was the first wire correspondent to reach the U.S. Embassy, Saigon during the Tet offensive.
>In 1971 she made news herself when she was captured by North Vietnamese troops operating in Cambodia. Premature official reports claimed that a body discovered was Webb's, and the New York Times published an obituary. She emerged from captivity 23 days after she was captured, after having endured forced marches, interrogations, and malaria.
>After the war, she continued to work as a foreign correspondent for UPI and Agence France-Presse (AFP), and served as a correspondent in Iraq during the Gulf War, in Indonesia as Timor-Leste gained independence, and in South Korea, where she was the first to report the death of Kim Il-Song. She also reported from Afghanistan, and later described an incident in Kabul as the most frightening in her career. Following the collapse of Mohammad Najibullah's communist regime, she was captured by a local warlord and brought to a hotel, where she was brutally beaten and dragged up a flight of stairs by her hair. She finally escaped with the help of two fellow journalists, and hid out on a window ledge in the freezing Afghan winter, while the warlord and his men searched the building for her.
>dies to ass cancer

fuckin' amazing.

>>32122948
>You can not defeat the allure of profit, stop being so idealistic.
He literally just told you he's working as a welder instead of a bloodsucking journalist. If he's not going around welding peoples' faces for money, he's "defeated the allure of profit".

>>32128863
Watched it. He doesn't kill anyone though. But he gets a FUCKING AWESOME SC20k.