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Nuclear Bomb Survival

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Happy Thanksgiving /k/.

Let's say a 500kt nuclear warhead goes off at the closest city to you (say with population of 400,000 or higher) or maybe that you're living in... Would u be instantly turned extra crispy with a side of cranberry sauce? If not, how what would you do to survive in this new radioactive ashtray of a home?

What would be your immediate plans?
What would you do in the long stretch?
What city do is it?
Do you have any gear or bug out/in plan in mind?
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>>32103757

I'd prob just die. Not enough time to gtfo or any thing. Oh well.... Rip in peace.
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>>32103757
>Live in Canada
>Closest city with a population of 400,000 is 270km away
I'll be fine
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>>32103757
Depends on how much time I have.

There is a bombshelter in every house where I live, so given around 2 minutes of warning I would probably get ther and have time to close the door.

That would prevent me from getting BTFO by the blast/heat (unless it detonated very close to me, wich is unlikely since i dont live in the central areas.

My gasmask (altho only an old GP-5M) hangs by my bed so Ill try to grab that one with me if the filters in the facility is in bad shape/I dont have time to close the peacetime ventilation.

If you survive the blast and can manage to not inhale to much radioactive material you have done really well.

Then I guess Ill stay in the shelter for as long as possible (a day or perhaps a few in the best case)
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>>32104071

>>32104017
This to. Didnt see that. Closest 400 000 people city is probably about 1000 km away.
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>>32103757
If it hits the city, i am done. If it hits the military airport, i am within 2nd degree burn range.
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>>32103757
I live in NorCal, the nearest large city is 300 miles away. I wouldn't even know it happened until somebody posted a thread about it.
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>>32104116

Whereabouts in norcal?

Redding could be a target.
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>Closest city goes up in smoke
Wow a whooping 22-23K dead people, radiation blowing north and east, and I'll sit here and laugh at the people who are stupid enough to live in a city so close to a military airport of so little significance that only the immense faggotry of the people living there could have provoked a nuclear reaction.
>Nearest city of 400 000+
So someone nukes London, and the powerlifting general on /fit/ will have drastically improved.
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>>32103757
I Live in MKE, so 500,000+ civs, but I work on top of a a very well built underground locker room. Took a couple of lockers and put some bug in materials down there.
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I live like 30 miles outside of Chicago, so maybe I'd probably survive the initial blast if I'm not at school or work, but fallout would probably get the surrounding burbs.

I have some provisions like food and water, but no radiation gear and I held off on getting a gun since Trump won and I'm a poorfag.
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>>32103757
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>>32104110
>>32104116
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>>32104189
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSBq8geuJk0
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Eh, I live in western Colorado. Got a few hundred miles and thousands of feet of mountains between Denver or SLC.
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>>32104203
https://youtu.be/ZSBq8geuJk0?t=2m30s
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>>32103757
I live in London.
Assuming an airburst slap bang on the heart of the city, I'd be just about OK in the suburban bit, by which I mean no 3rd degree burns, but the amount of smoke from everything in London burning would fuck me up. I'm relatively safe from radiation, but I'd be fucked in terms of survival - pretty minimal gear and no car, so I'd be hiking up the M1 towards the distribution centres in the south midlands to try and link up with some transport and food before heading home to rural Leicestershire, which would probably be relatively OK assuming no nukes on Birmingham.
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>>32103757
My city would likely be hit with a wave of radiation. No doubt that the population would panic as food became scarce a few days in.

I would run off to the national forest and set up a small comfy homestead and farm boar, rabbits, common garden produce and set up a wheat field. I could produce ammunition to trade.
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I'd go outside and watch the cloud form over detroit, then go back in and have a beer while i load up some guns to shoot survivors coming up to the suburbs
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>>32104203
We dont celebrate that here.
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>>32104224
Nuking detroit

Nothing of value would be lost.
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What you guys have for a basement or cellar set up?
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>>32104203
What the point of thanksgiving anyway
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The edge of the blast wouldn't even reach my neighboring state's border. Feels good being a Maine fag.
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>>32104250
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>>32104071
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>>32104169
i too live in mke and will live by uwm till aug so im crispy af unless in at my job near ladish, maybe i would survive the inital strike there
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Finland here.

I live in a small eastern Finland city. 40k or so people. Surrounded by sparsely populated countryside/woodlands.

My apartment is at the sixth floor (highest floor) of this building. So that might be a problem. I would be inside the thermal radiation radius, but outside air blast radius (5 PSI).

The good part is that sturdy Finnish construction code (and the fact that people here actually build according to it) means that I have heavy concrete walls around me, and all the windows give away from city center - that is, where the bomb would be detonated. So first flash damage would be... probably survivable.

If I survive the first blast, things get easier.

The building has dedicated underground civil defense shelter with air purification equipment. Also, the whole finnish infrastructure (water, electricity etc. ) here is build to support SHTF-situations.

I also have about 3 weeks worth of food (mostly in airtight packaging/tincans/preservatices etc) in my kitchen.

so I think... if I'd survive the first blast, I'd be relatively fine. I even have iodine pills in my bathroom medicine cabinet.

So... maybe I'd get lucky? Even if 500kt nuke would blow up within 4-5 km.

Immediate plans: chill out in the shelter until worst of radiation cools off.
Long stretch: get away from the city before the fallout comes down, go to my gramma's place (70 km away) or to my summer cottage (100 km away) - both places good for farming.

By the time worst of radiation is gone, the whole civil defense network would be in full swing (unlike yankees who have single government facility FEMA, all that jazz is built into the local civil administration and is regularely drilled) and there would be military reserve troops mobilizing for clearing streets/fallout, red cross services setting up clinics etc. and they would be looking for volunteers and workers who can help the folks.

Man, it feels good to live in an actually working country.
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>>32104449
Know that feel.

We used to work, but that kind of stopped after the cold war. Most of the infrastructure and shelters are still there tho as they were built in before the cold war ended.
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>>32104449
Unless you have some specific target in the city, isnt the nuke more likely to be targeted at the airport?
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>>32104591
Yes and no.

Yes as in "it is the most obvious military target in this area. Also it has a military base next to it."

No as in "see that landbridge from Puntarikoski to Onttola? That is THE ONLY WAY to move troops from eastern finland to western parts, if you don't want to make hundreds of klicks of de-tour." so nuking this area would be kinda like area-denial -attack. It's a bottle-neck and the city is smack down in the middle of it.

Also, Finnish Air Force has thousands upon thousands of miles of roads which are perfectly good airports as they are (many of them are even designed to work as such, should SHTF) so nuking an airport isn't really effective in that sense.

That's the thing about Finnish Military Doctrine: EVERYTHING is decentralized. Doesn't matter where you hit (military, government, infrastructure, logistics, public works), there is always some backup system ready to take over. The whole country is build from the ground up like that.
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>>32104215

That's so retarded
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>>32104247
Seconded. Can we just do that ourselves?
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>>32104686
Even our most basic infantry soldiers are trained in guerilla warfare.

Most of the army can be changed to "hide in the wilderness and do hit-and-run attacks" with just a word. They already have all the equipment and all the logistics (like private transportation companies - equivalent to UPS) are already part of it.

It is not uncommon for a parcel service to get a mission "take this food ration shipment from military base, drive it into the middle of the wilderness, and drop it off to dead-end forest road and coordinates X1-Y7. Don't worry, there will be people there to receive it."

And that will be enough food for a company for a week.
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Well I live about 35 miles outside of Chicago, so I'd probably survive the initial blast but have to worry about fallout. If I heard about it really quickly, which I bet I would, I'd probably have a chance once I started to head south ASAP. I don't have a BOB ready to go, though.
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>>32104756
Hey there fellow Shitcago friend.

Stay rad free this Thanksgiving.
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>>32104743
>>32104686
>>32104449
Note to self: Move to Finland
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>>32104076
>closest is 1000km away

Where the fuck do you live that makes this true? North of the arctic circle?
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>>32103757
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>>32103757

Over a hundred miles from the nearest big city.

Probably wouldn't notice until somebody shook me out of my moonshine-addled slumber and pointed east.

Probably just get back to drinkin.
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>>32104797
>Implying the Ruskies wouldn't steam roll through the Baltics and Scandinavia within a week after shreking them.
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>>32105043
>Moonshine lowers radiation levels so no concern for fallout

Where r u friend?
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I live near a submarine plant with a harbour and the navy close. Shiiied
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>>32105093

Zimbabwe, and upwind of any fallout patterns my ATF friend.
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>>32104123
Just north of Eureka. About 170 miles from Redding, which has a pop of 91K. Redding has no strategic value except as a transportation hub.
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>>32103757
>Live in small britbong town
>2 cities nearby
>10 miles away, 76k
>13 miles... 450k
>fug
>Use interactive map
>Well outside estimated immediate kill zone
Oh. Guess I over-estimated that size of warhead. Radiation would count on wind direction that day, so I can't say really.

I would have a decent chance of surviving a blastwave anyway since my family's house is an old stone one built into a hill, so as long as it didn't collapse I'd have a good chance of doing alright for a little while.
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>>32105131
I'm from Eureka. I probably know you or at least your family
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>>32103757
My house is just outside the 5psi overpressure zone. So assuming I'm at home, my house would probably collapse and I'd die. If I was at work I'd be in the fireball and die immediately.
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>>32104945
Yes. Extreme north of Sweden.
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>>32104224
Detroit would be targeted with multiple warheads to ensure the destruction both of the 4 million area residents and the automobile manufacturing facilities.
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>>32104686
>>32104743

You guys are really cool. Im glad ill visit Funland next spring

The sad part is how everything used to work like that for us too, but then politicans buttfucked everyone.

Also plz buy plane
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>>32105052
If they get to use nukes, then helk yes. But nuking NATO members is a great way to make sure you cease to exist as a nation.
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>>32105341
Probably not.
No real reason to hit them over other more important targets.
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>>32105321
Maybe. I'm an import, though. I was stationed at AIRSTA Humboldt Bay in the early 90s, decided to stay after I retired.
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>>32103757
> i'm on the edge of tampa's blast radius
if i had a few days warning i'd build an improvised fallout shelter with the neighbors

if you are at all interested in the subject read this and buy a physical copy.
http://www.oism.org/nwss/

if all the warning i had was a blinding flash i'd park my elevator on the ground floor and hide inside. if i survived the initial overpressure i'd start moving boxes around the shaft to absorb radiation.

i'd pop a few potassium iodine pills, clean my guns and wait to kill whoever nuked us
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>>32105569
>If I had a few days warning Id inform NORAD and get the fuck out of there.

Why build a shelter when you can just leave?
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>>32104536
if you're a burger they weren't really any good even during the cold war. vatniks were supposed to have a pretty solid setup, swiss and swedes too.
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>Boston
>Next to Roxbury Crossing ("historically" black neighborhood)

I don't think I would survive guys.
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>>32105591
the warnings i was thinking of would be pretty obvious, an escalation of hostilities then that hostile nation evacuating it's cities.

if it's a mass attack i'd still need to build a shelter wherever i went, i wouldn't know the area and would have a harder time convincing strangers to help me dig a hole to save us all. i'd also have to pack, i wouldn't be able to get very far if everyone else was also evacuating, i wouldn't be able to bring as many supplies, and i might get caught out in transit.

if it was just one bomb then yeah hurricane evacuation procedure would get the vast majority of people out, but most scenarios i'm bugging in.
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Obligatory:

http://oism.org/nwss/nwss.pdf
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I live about 1km away from an underground shelter rated for ~40psi blast overpressure, I think I'm gonna make it
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>>32105768
>if it's a mass attack i'd still need to build a shelter wherever i went

Not true. 40 km in any forrest should do fine. Or just go to another country if possible.

Nobody has enough nukes these days to waste them on anything else than military targets anyway.
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>>32105890
i'd still be concerned about fallout, the radiation would be worse in the forest.
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>>32106162
If its a strike on a city, fallout wont be an issue.
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>>32103757

I'd go to the basement and get a few tubes of caulk and seal all the doors and windows.

Then I'd cook all the shit in my fridge, put whatever I dont eat in the freezer. If the meat in the freezer thawed before I could eat it all, I'd toss it in the dehydrator.
Then I'd start packing a bag to gtfo. Id stash guns/ammo/meds that I cant carry.

Id hang out until all my food was gone (a few weeks), then leave.
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>>32103757
Air burst or ground detonation?

This determines if Im "fine" or potentially get turbofucked by the worst of the fallout if the wind is going in the wrong direction

Pic is area related if its a grounds strike I get turbofucked by fallout by the current wind direction

if its an air-burst I survive
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>>32106292
single airburst sure, but if landing strips are targets or hardened structures or any warhead malfunctions occurred fallout would be an issue.
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>150 kms away from Munich
>100 kms away from nearest city with more than 100.000 people
>Food and Water for more than a month stored in the closet
>Ability to close off my apartment tightly so no dust gets in
>No gas mask but some respirators that save me from the dust that gets in
>Guns and ammo
Would be pretty meh
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>>32106343
330 fag here
Why would you nuke akron?
It's an improvement but y tho
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>>32104686
Everything was decentralized.
But thanks to constant budget cuts it seems like we are all gonna live in mega-cities by the end of it all.
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>>32106351
All of those are unlikely.
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>>32107011
okay, exactly what happens in your imaginary scenario?
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>>32107026
Almost all warheads will be aimed at nuclear weapons, command and control for nuclear weapons, or storage of nuclear weapons.

What happens in your imaginary scenario?
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>>32107088
command bunkers and missile silos are ground burst targets.
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>>32107174
And?
What does that have to do with urban targets, which is what I said.

I'll repeat it.
>If its a strike on a city, fallout wont be an issue
Got it?
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>>32107191
are you the guy that doesn't believe in gamma radiation?

if there are hundreds of ground detonating nuclear weapons in the country there are pretty good odds of you dying of radiation poisoning even if you don't have to worry about the rads from your nearest urban center's destruction.
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>Australia
>300km north of Brisbane

Meh, would just head West out into some farming community. Hopefully pick up a laboring job in return for food until the war tides over.
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I live about 15 miles from San Diego. I feel somewhat content in knowing that if we ever decide to let loose that I won't have to deal with the aftermath. This place will look like the Glowing Sea after the breakout of the war.

Pic related, I'm the very beginning of the Kamehameha. Pretty sure my skin would slough off after a day or two.
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>>32104205
Same here. We'll get lots of fallout but we'll be fine after a week of hiding in our basements.
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>>32104224
>I'd go outside and watch the cloud form over detroit
Don't do that. Nuclear blast have unlimited (visible horizon) range of eye damage. Never ever look at it.
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>>32105445
>burgers desperately try to deflect nuclear warheads with shitposting
You are primary target. Deal with it.
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>>32103757
Closest city with a pop that high is a two hour drive, so I'd hope I'd be ok.
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>>32108503
Post reminded me of I quote I heard in the movie After Trinity. The film makers are interviewing a lady who was driving when it happened, and she said her sister could see it. The reporter asked why this was significant. The lady replies, "My sister is blind."

I can't even imagine how bright an actual nuke would be, man.
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>>32108523
>he thinks countervalue nuclear strikes are a good idea when your opponent is doing counterforce strikes

Enjoy losing.
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>>32103757
Well out side the range and fallout so I'll be fine. I live near the airport btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VG2aJyIFrA
>>32104449
Legit jelly my dude. Could you take a pic from your window? I've always fancied Finland and its landscape. I wish I could move to there and join the military; live in the woods but i don't think you guys would like me.
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well, the two closest "Major" cities to me are Sioux Falls and Rapid City, and according to nukemap either one getting hit wouldn't pose much of a problem since I live in the center of the state.

so I guess just go outside with a welding mask and watch the fireworks.
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>>32103757
>what if this event that will definitely end your life happens?
>will your life be over?

Are you a nigger?

Only niggers post shit like this.
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>>32104189
are you fucking kidding me? so much of this shit is off it isn't even fucking funny. there's still like half of these up for debate, also i'd love to see the sources on some of these. the asshats who share this are worse than the asshats who made it.
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>>32104254
Stabbing Native Americans in the back and fucking their bitches.
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>>32108770
read this, it's not propaganda.
>>32105793
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>>32108821

Fuck off, nigger.
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>>32108793
>>32108793
>and fucking their bitches
but native bitches are fuck ugly for the most part. I think I've seen maybe 3 attractive natives, and I'm fairly sure they were mixed.
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>>32108716
Are you excited for the finn yugo pack
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Depends how it's designed and detonated.

Airburst? Stay and rebuild. Ground explosion? GFTO out of radioactive area. Oregon's a big place, and we have enough dried goods to last for 3 months minimum.
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>>32108831
fine don't learn how to survive a nuclear apocalypse. it's probably not information you'd ever need to use anyway.
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>>32108851
>Depends how it's designed and detonated.

These are two things that you will obviously be able to identify with perfect accuracy.
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>>32108862

Fuck off, nigger.

Now I KNOW that you're a nigger, because you had to be told twice.
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>>32108865
and people never think about dirty dial-a-yields do they?
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>>32108865

This is assuming you aren't BBQed in the initial blast.
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So does anyone really understand nuclear winter? Is it a real thing or just a bunch of bs? Could nukes kill off humanity or ruin the planet?
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>>32108884
>>32108892

I'm absolutely certain that you will be able to figure these two things out after the blast.

Absolutely

Certain

Not even a single doubt in my mind. None. Nothing.
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>>32104289
>feels good being a Maine fag.
My nigga.
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>>32108848
I haven't really looked into it but I think I'll keep it that way so I'll be surprised when browsing through the decks. Like a Christmas present
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just checked and it'd be in another state
rioting civil unrest ect would be a bigger issue for me
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>>32107724
Haha I'm not on this map or close to where the radiation is, even if they smashed the marine corps base north of me. Carlsbad checking in.
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y'all still good?
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What is the difference between airburts and surface? I thank one is meant to maximize destruction and the other for fallout but can't remember which one is which.
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>>32109367
airburst maximizes damage to unprotected targets, surface burst is for hardened targets and anything the fireball touches becomes fallout.

>>32108903
it was based on some incorrect assumptions about building materials then spread by scientists to make nuclear war even more unpalatable to politicians. it is not possible with current stockpiles.
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>>32109310
So Oregon is the only safe spot


What's the guns laws over like
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>>32109411
Thank you Anon. Here is your (you). Don't spend it all at once.
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>>32108640
>playing by enemy rules.
Enjoy losing.
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>>32109430
all depends on how the wind is blowing, might be safe, might be a slow unpleasant death.

>>32109465
i remember being compensated in internets, had a tidy sum at one point.
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12 miles outside of Chicago. Would the blast get me? Because if not, there's a school a mile away from me that has a designated fallout shelter from the Cold War. Would throw on gas mask and book it there, wait a few days for the hottest of rads to cool down, then head west.
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>>32104224
t. a black
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>>32107256
7:10 rule.
You are fucking stupid
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This thread makes me sad. All the effort and time OPpenheimer put in here to educate you fuckers, and these threads are still full of idiots.
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>>32109814
niggers would get you before the radiation.
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>>32104250
I've got a small interior room set up I the basment. Cinder block walls on two sides and poured concrete on the others. I need to add ventilation and a steel door at some point. I have steel plates to cover the floor above and plenty of sand and sandbags to go on top of that.
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>>32104591
Burger here. I live in a rust belt city(not Detroit TYJ)
A lot of older buildings had CD shelters in them but over the last 40 years they were gutted and repurposed. My buddy and I found one still in good condition In the basement where I work.
It's still has a heavy steel door and looks ok. That's where I would head if the bombs start falling when I'm at work.

I figure I've got about about a weeks worth of food and water in my car and mini fridge.
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>>32106550
Medina! fuck yeah! I'm gonna live!

>At least until all that's left of Detroit rains down on Ohio.
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>>32107724
Niagara, I live in vista
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I need antibiotic alternatives.

Any ideas? For inner usage.

I thought about oregano oil, garlic and silver spray? Does this shit even work?
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>>32103757
No one's posting an accurate map.
I'll post the one that OPpie posted before he left.
Oh, and I do hope you enjoy dodging counter-value shots lads.
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>>32104449
I'm shagging a Finnish chick atm, God bless your beautiful women. Fuck your language though.
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>>32103757
LOL this is what you white trash fantasize about?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH
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>>32103757
I'd get an instant sunburn and die of radiation sickness in the next day or two.
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>>32103757
>city
>400,000+
>mfw my city only has 200k
>closest city is Indianapolis, an hour away

id be fine
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>>32104945
>posting exact location online
noice
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>>32104131
kekd
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>>32111582
Let me guess, the clusters is the US land based silos?
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>>32112195
Yes.
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>>32112214
>>32112195
>>32111582
Pls based Putin, make it happen!
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>>32108903

The nuclear winter study (and subsequent studies on the subject) destroyed any faith I had in climate scientists.

They only model nuclear war happening at a specific time of year when soot is even capable of getting to the stratosphere. They massively overstate the combustible materials in cities, and assume 100% of cities will burn like Hiroshima (which was made of paper and coal ovens), they assume all combustible material will completely burn up.(instead of be charred and failing to ignite at all). This doesn't even get into their infantile grasp of nuclear war strategy. They basically created their study with no regard for how shit would actually go down.

Later studies chastise Carl Sagan's original study, and then go on to make most of the same goddamn mistakes. Scientists were talking out of their ass, leaning on their credentials and confidence to push an agenda, and now I can't unsee it.

Wading through the bullshit, from what I can gather, a massive countervalue strike has a slight chance of causing minuscule cooling (a degree or two) for no longer than a couple weeks. Climate Scientists' special snowflake widespread stratospheric soot injection causing years of 10-20 degrees of cooling is so wildly unlikely as to not be a realistic concern.
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>>32110561
http://www.oism.org/nwss/s73p937.htm

>>32110626
>I live in a rust belt city
good work in the election

>>32111474
why not get fishmox?
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>>32111582
>my state avoids being directly fired on
>get raped by radiation
>get raped by radioactive niggers
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