Kuznetsov towed back to port AGAIN

>>32100636
HAHAHA

I pity those Russian sailors, I bet it's because the Mediterranean is a warm sea so the ship isn't in good condition. Hahaha they should've just bought Chinese.

>>32100636
The ability to spontaneously produce a large smokescreen is a feature, not a bug

>>32100636

>kuznetsov is towed back to port so frequently it doesnt even have time to make it back to port before having to be towed back to port again

The Russian navy is LITERALLY this bad

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>>32100636
Haha, Britbongs and Amerifats BTFO!1

The Russian navy maybe perennially underfunded, have a terrible safety record, and generally incompetent, but that Royal Navy ship actually broke down.

Russian vessels never break down, and are well known to be the most seaworthy ships in the world.

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>>32100636
this ruse is actually funnier the second time because people still haven't learned to follow the link

>>32100636
When will these vatniks learn?

>>32100928
I don't have to click the link to make fun of vatniks.

Everybody knows the Kuz can't move without being towed.

@32100636
Vatnik's first troll. How cute.

>>32101018
apparently neither can Zumwalt nor Duncan

The saddest thing is the 50 cent who keeps trying to shill.

>>32100919
The kursk was some fucked up shit man. Most of my deployment nightmares revolve around that boat.

>>32101034
>32100636
Give me my (you)s asshole.

>>32100887

Just like Co2 fire supression on a submarine is added value and not a critical engineering oversight.

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>>32100919
This.

All fleets of any type of vehicle have technical issues, but Russian naval issues far outstrip those of the USN or RN.

I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with Russian designs, but a lot of their stuff has been very poorly maintained since the late 80s e.g. Kuznetsov.

>>32101045
Then make a thread about it, this is a Kuz being towed thread.

>>32101135
TFW /k is bunch of low iq idiots who can't get a joke.

>>32101135

> make a thread about another overpriced fatnik meme

dunno about anyone else, but I'm fucking tired of listening to Lockmart and such

>>32100636
Admiral Tugnetzov?

...Fine, I'll go.

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>>32100636
>B-best destroyer in the world!

>>32101133
Both Royal Navy and US Navy have worse disasters than Kursk.

You think that it is not the case, then you are in for a big surprise.

Kuznetsov is old but it still works and is a reliable working aircraft carrier operations, Zumvalt, and English destroyers are completely new but still breakdown and are unreliable.

So not much has changed since the voyage of the damned and tsushima, has it?

The link goes to a completely different article, OP.

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>>32101366

>>32100878
Funny thing is, the Chinese just bought the only other Kuznetsov class ship to pretend they built it

>>32100636

You can thank the American made North Grumman part for causing the Type 45 to break down.

There's a difference between these break downs, one is caused by new technology immature and the other one is caused by age/neglect.

>>32101374
It's been a while since I participated in /k/ geopolitics. Where's the article the OP text is pulled from? Google isn't helping.

>>32101368
wtf is that? coal powered carrier?

>>32101348
Doesnt matter. That thing the russian navy did in the war with Japan should have just convinced Russia to never ever build a ship again

>>32101404
Naah, just extremely high sulfur fuel I'd guess.

>>32101385
It's bait, anon.

The same thing was done a couple of days ago with the Zumwalt breakdown story.

It makes the Russians on here feel better about their "navy".

>>32101404

Laser shielding. Russia predicted the proliferation of point defence/long range anti-shipping lasers in the 80s. They design all their vessels with a smoke shield to protect them and to simulate Chinese living conditions for when they submit to their new communist overlords.

>>32101385

It's a mix of that linked article and a another one about the LCS.

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>>32101404
>>32101430
It runs at least partially on something called Mazut-100, a high sulfur content, low quality boiler oil.

But I think there is more to the thick black smoke that just the oil that it consumes.

>>32101478

It runs on Bunker C, right above asphalt.

>>32100919
>>32101133
>>32101348

Keep samefagging you vatnik faggot. Nobody is fooled

>>32101348
>Both Royal Navy and US Navy have worse disasters than Kursk.

lmao, alright

Remind me again when the USN/RN went full denial mode about a vessel going down and refused help in rescuing the crew, to the point they all fucking drowned, cunt.

They tried to run it on clean fuel and the old bastard refused to cooperate.
Its like when you try to feed the stubborn elderly person with something he doesnt like and he shits himself as a sign of protest. And laughs as you clean

>>32101478
>more to the thick black smoke
Jews?

>>32100636
Russian navy hould never venture out of the Black Sea. Nothing good ever comes out of it.

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>>32101965

>>32101565
USS Indianapolis hurrrrrrrrrrrr

LOL dumbasses

>>32100636
RULE BRITANNIA
britbongs blown the fuck out

Impressive

Truly China has the best Quality Assurance in the world. Taking an inferior Russian ship and making it a superior Chinese super carrier is a level of shipbuilding that only China can do. China still is in line to be the only superpower in a few years.

>>32102051
Its not that they denied that the vessel went down. It was sunk while they were radio silent.

Kinda why they navy instituted this
http://meteorologytraining.tpub.com/14269/css/14269_182.htm

>>32100636
I love these threads, shows most of /k/ are mouth breathing retards that don't read past the headline

OP please continue

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>>32102295
It's almost as good as seeing /k/ speak about politics using words they couldn't define on a high school level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfkbvAE6AmA

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at least when russian stuff breaks, it's because it's old.

how do you break brand new shit, america?

Wtf is going on these days, is it just me or are loads of ships breaking recently?

The zumwalt broke down, the LCS broke down, the T45s have been breaking down, the Russian ships usually break down. Are the Chinese truly the only ones with quality ships?

>>32102714
>Are the Chinese truly the only ones with quality ships?
Impressive

>>32102295
assmad vatnik act's like he is too smart for a chinese cartoon board

>>32101478
>Those broken cinder blocks likely used to bang machines into working

When is Russia's replacement carrier due to be launched?

>>32100636
>an american made part of a british destroyer breaks down

Oh gee what a surprise.

>>32100919
Russian naval vessels sink themselves, and their submarines never surface.

Truly the most formidable navy on the the planet.

>>32102714

No, it's just confirmation bias. Just because you don't see or hear things going wrong for the Chinese doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Whilst I have no proof to offer, you've got to consider that building & maintaining complex modern warships for a modern navy isn't a walk in the park. You can clearly see that from extremely experienced navies facing issues from it, I can't imagine what it is like from a nation almost starting from the ground up.

Then you've also got to consider that that navies like Russia, US and the UK face up to intense journalistic scrutiny because of their home culture, being out on the international stage etc.

Yah feel me?

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>>32100636
Kind of reminds me of this

>>32102383
good ol' gavin going stronk. ty for vid

Isn't it sad how China has the better Admiral Kuznetsov carrier?

>>32102545
new ships have new problems

>>32101348
And therein lies the difference. The problems with the American and Brit designs/ ships lie in the fact that they are using some VERY cutting edge technology, so of course they will have problems and breakdowns on new and untested systems. The Russians however , are having difficulties with a proven 50+ year old design that seems to work for every other Navy that uses it.

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>>32101348
>Kuznetsov is old

not really

Nimitz, Eisenhower, Carl Vinson, Roosevelt and Lincoln all entered service before Kuznetsov

it just looks and seems old because it has had a hard life of russian "maintenance"

>>32102714
Shits starting to pop off so now everyone pays attention when someone fucks up.

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>>32102945
>The battleship Borodino reports being noarded by Japanese forces, crew attempt to abandon ship
This will never stop making me laugh.

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>>32102714
>Build conservative ship design and evolve it slowly
>Buy old carrier and refurbish it
>Construct a literally 40 year old carrier

Better safe than sorry.

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>>32100636
>Shit on Kuznetsov putting out some smoke
>Amerishit crap gets towed
>Bong "navy" gets towed
Karma is a bitch.

>>32103546
>Nimitz, Eisenhower, Carl Vinson, Roosevelt and Lincoln all entered service before Kuznetsov
And neither of them suffered two decades of undermaintenance.
>Pic
>Amerishit on exploding space rockets
Challenger disappears.

>>32102714
LCS and Zumwalt are rolling out with completely new propulsion systems, so it's not uncommon for the early builds to start running into issues once those new systems start being put under stress. This has literally been the case with every new class of ship, regardless of nation.

In terms of the Kuznetsov, it's just so damn old and poorly maintained, breakdowns are inevitable.

As for the Chinese, they keep most of their ships close to home and the government there tends to repress all information that could potentially make them look bad. Plus a lot of their designs are just copies of older, proven ships.

>>32101478
holy shit, that ship is literally an Ork Krooza
>Russians confirmed for Orkz

>>32102051
That was during wartime though.

>>32102714

We don't make things like we used to.

We used to make cars simple and tough as nails. You could hit a telephone pole and drive off and rebuild it top to bottom with a screwdriver and pair of pliers.

NOT ANYMORE LOL

AND IF YOU DONT LIKE IT YOURE AN IGNORANT IDIOT

>>32104265
>two decades of undermaintenance
You say this as if it is an excuse when ship quality and care are two parts of the same wheel...

>>32100636
>nation has really shitty navy
>have breakdown
>be compared to literally the best navy in the world
>raging autism ensues

not even a slavaboo, this is just fucking stupid

>>32106404
No, I say it as if it has a very sensitive engine that suffers extremely from shit maintenance. And shit maintenance is what this ship had crapton of.

>>32102714
Ships have been breaking down all the time. It's just that before the internet age, none of it was publicized.

>>32101404
Nah, it's powered by the misery of Russian Sailors. That's why the smoke is so thick and black.

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>>32100919

>>32104270
>LCS and Zumwalt are rolling out with completely new propulsion systems
They both use gas driven electric turbines, the same shit that's been used for 20 years now.

The LCS water jet engines are a near exact copy of Australian car ferry designs.

>>32100636
https://www.google.com.au/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3969264/amp/Well-s-not-going-terrify-Putin-Royal-Navy-1bn-warship-towed-port-technical-issues-just-two-days-setting-sea.html?client=safari
Not an Ivan
But britbongs can't say shit

>>32100636
>integrated smoke screen
You laugh now, capitalists.

Godamn russia your air game is trash and so is your navy; thank god you at least have force projection on the ground.

>>32104245
>Karma is a bitch.
Is that why Russia is such a shit country? kek

>>32107288

> The LCS water jet engines are a near exact copy of Australian car ferry designs.

Those don't go near 50 knots, nor suffer the stresses of going at that speed.

>>32109418
>Copying drop bear technology
>to do things drop bear technology isn't supposed to do

And burgers ask why it keeps getting into problems. Americans should just copy the Chinese. The Chinese has a boat called Junk.

>>32100636
Worst then the zumwalt

>>32100636

I see what you did there OP

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Obligatory.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEkOT3IngMQ&spfreload=10

>>32110770
There needs to be more films about this.

Battlejew Potemkin can be done a lot better.

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Next up: Liberation of crimea from bolshevist muscovite scum. :-)

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>>32101049
>118 sailors
>118 bodybags
Takings of that, Imperialist Amerika!
ROSSIYA STRONK ROSSIYA STRONK

>>32106658
this is exactly the point. Shitty maintenance makes a shitty ship. It's age isn't relevant if the fleet wont maintain it.

Claiming a ship is old and ill maintained isn't a valid defense of the quality of the ship, which is what everyone is laughing about.

>>32104270
>LCS and Zumwalt are rolling out with completely new propulsion systems, so it's not uncommon for the early builds to start running into issues once those new systems start being put under stress. This has literally been the case with every new class of ship, regardless of nation.
Didn't they cancel the Zumwalts advanced superconducting PMSM motors and shove some old design into it?

>>32104265
>none of them suffered undermaintenance
That's the fucking point

Also, where's that infographic comparing the rate of successful US launches to successful RU launches?

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>>32100636
>picture of the Admiral Kuznetsov at sea

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>>32111066
And here's one of her conducting flight ops. Note the rescue helicopter

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>>32100636
>Vatnik's 80s "aircraft carrier" steam boat Willyrust bucket broke down eveytime someone look at it funny

>U.S 50s Cold War space spy plane still operational over Iraq hours upon hours per day without a single hitch

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/25/middleeast/u2-dragonlady-reconnaissance-plane-pleitgen/

Really make you think

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>>32101478
Jesus christ look at the state of that engine room

>>32101505
>Bunker C
We tar now niggaz

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>>32110908
No, the absence of maintenance makes a broken ship. What everyone really laughts about is how top notch amerishit and bong crap breaks down and westfags start to go around comparing their top notch shit to old Soviet carrier that suffered from the complete absent of maintenance for years.
>>32111058
If that's the point, then why are you trying to compare it to fucking Zumwalt of Dragon?
>Also, where's that infographic
Here it is.

>>32111160
>Burgershit on american spy "aircraft"
>SR-71 had 40% crash rate
Really makes you think, indeed.

>>32111992
[citation needed]

>>32112232
>Amerishit denial
>Number built 32
>Twelve SR-71s were lost and one pilot died in accidents

>>32101135
Except it's not... Read the link.
Pretending to not get the joke in order to appear as a cool guy is ridiculous.

>>32103473
No more than the french and they don't have half these problems with their new ships.

Also you don't know what you're talking about : maintaining an old design can be more expensive than a new one. It's a well known fact by any maintenance person in the world.

When the Charles de Gaulle carrier lost a propeller, it was later discovered the US contractor had fired its competent workers and hired faggots who did a shit job.

And I believe this is the case here. Nothing to do with "muh le super duper tech". Just a defense contractor doing a shit job.

However, the burgers can just throw money at their failures to fix them. The anglos however, not that much anymore.

Being condemned to work well sure is a hard punishment. It also teaches a thing or two to pretentious faggots. See : navantia and their S-80 for example, aka :
>"jajaja we duped the frogs of their tech to build our own submarine jajaja now we can't make it work jajaja".

tl;dr : stop eating dick and aknowledge a fix is needed on that ship. Period.

>>32112571

>No more than the french and they don't have half these problems with their new ships.

Um, yes. A FUCK lot more than the French. French naval designs are extremely modest in new technology. They don't use IEP, they still don't have any AESAs, their radars aren't BMD enabled and they don't use newer generators like MT30s which are very fancy in a whole shebang of ways that Zumwalt, Type 26 and suchlike will be taking advantage of for power generation. There's no laser CIWS project in France either, which is planned for both Zumwalt and T26, and they have been designed with it in mind. They don't aim to push the boat (hurr) on guns much either, while the Zumwalt has 155mm AGS. Or side hull mounted VLS

It might not be obvious on the surface, but the US/UK ships that are being produced now are pushing a lot of borders, hence dealing with teething issues.

>>32113065
>laser CIWS
Piss off to /v.

>>32112284
You are correct but "11,675 hours Mach 3 time (total)" is still a bretty gud record wouldn't you agree?

>>32100636
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ngOsSNF-z0&list=PLBRLKmBip431PHNAdtz8OcjUpxkFGIDeg

It's actually kinda weird how lay back or undisciplined the Russian Navy is if you go by how the sailors and marines act in this series. It's almost kinda of saddening. You can tell a large number of them don't really want to be there or are just disenfranchised. They go through the motions like a really crappy day job. consistently talking back to those of higher rank even.

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Hasn't the Kuz ceased all carrier operations and just moved it's jets to dry land?

>>32114596
What one can really tell is that a large number of your brain cells prefer the life in a fairy-tale world of your fantasies and hallucinations.

>>32101135

I bet you aced that ASVAB you room temp IQ tard

A thread exploiting the fact that anti-russian posters are usually not very smart or detail oriented. Nice

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That's a lot of smoke

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>>32115318
kek

>>32113076

>There is literally directed energy weapons on a US ship for testing now
>RN has already commited money to having one by 2018 on a vessel

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not true.

>>32116216
And the Russians are restarting the Beriev A-60 project.

>>32101378
And theirs is in working condition

>>32115318
we already had this same thread with basically every other ships with some other nations x broke down, same result

and honestly russians are the safe bet

>>32116328

Totally man, Russia's new ship just broke down AGAIN if you heard

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2016/11/23/most-expensive-destroyer-in-us-fleet-loses-propulsion-in-panama-canal/

>>32116719
i just want to point out that this is future of /k/

do you really want this ? do you want every single thread to be at the same level of /b/ ?

>>32116719
>latino.foxnews
build wall

>>32101046
The saddest part are the illiterate fatniks who are so full of fat that they're blind,

>>32116766
>fatniks
Why do i only got the feeling this word is just forced here by few persons?

>>32116748

Lots of really stupid people are in to guns. And I mean REALLY stupid. Just the way it is. Go to any gun website and you'll see people falling for troll threads or posting satire news like its real

>>32116891
I don't know. I see a lot of peep using it. And it is rather appropriate.

Personally, I like to call uneducated american posters Poorniks, because they're invariably financially challenged and poorly educated.

>>32116993
>straight out lies
And here we got the guy probaly spamming it everywhere. I have never seen a word here more forced and wrongly used as fucking fatnik. And i shit on US stuff regulary.

>>32116891
Because it hurts your butt.

>>32116993
Serious question: Ho often do you get called vatnik?

>>32117158
>you butthurt
You just wanted to add another standard vatnik phrase?

>>32117170
Getting upset about a word on the internet is the legitimate case of hurt butt.

>>32117183
It is not getting better or more true when you just repeat it. Rather the opposite.

>>32117213
It doesn't get any better if you deny it either.

>>32117242
>you butthurt
>you denial
You are quite trying to live up at the cliche.

>>32100636
Flagship of Russian fleet is a tugboat.

>>32117160
Never once.

>>32118537
So, you are so assblasted being called vatnik all the time you just started to call people who disagree with you fatniks in response? Who could have guessed.

>>32116748
Russians on /k/.

Russians shill for Trump

That's Putin's new America

>>32102051
>>32102265
"Declassified records later showed that three stations received the signals; however, none acted upon the call. One commander was drunk, another had ordered his men not to disturb him and a third thought it was a Japanese trap."

>>32119050
>Russians on /k/.
Feeling uncomfortable my fellow fatnik?

>>32121390
>mmm, butthurt
>because I can't hurt burgers IRL

>>32116748
>future
This shit has been going on for years. First it was the muslims, then that plus Chinese, now that plus Russians. I miss old /k/, but it's never coming back.

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>>32100636
>mfw no one reads the article

>>32112284

A bleeding edge operational aircraft has a high incident rate, I am shocked.

Normal Russian shit is as bad as Western secret squirrel stuff.

>>32122219
This desu

This thread is full of the worst aspects of /k/

vatniks, overzealous burgers, and a pinch of spicy chicom fuckery

>>32121311
>thought it was a Japanese trap."
mmmmmm

>>32100636
What is it with baiting about the Kuz when it's a different ship? Why is there a thread like this nearly every day?

>>32101201
>/k
Go and stay go

>>32101505
Bunker crude is love, bunker crude is life.
AKA the REAL reason why steam is better than IC.