Canada General - Infighting edition

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>>32087510
Passed my CFSC for non-restricted today.

What next?

>>32087597

CRFSC.

Who here has a tasty Black Friday buy lined up? I'm picking up a Benelli Supernova from Al Flaherty's for $750.

/k/ has a discord chat!!

join the conversation at https://discord.gg/zP8UrTb

>>32087744

I'm keeping an eye out for some electronic hearing protection.

Reee, fucking China, where are the type 81's

>>32087744
just loads of sweet sweet cheap 22lr senpai and a new scope

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day of the rake is coming you moose fuckers

Is it true that Canadians like to eat beaver assholes?

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>>32087818

We eat their tails. I can see how that could be confusing.

>>32087818
>>32087805
>insert snarky comment about White House and something to do with fire
Srsly though, in canada some guns are actually cheaper, our elite groups are some of the best, and we have great camo. What's to hate? At least we aren't no guns yuropoors(or no knifes in the case of Anglo.)

>>32087854

Lack of property rights, shit gun laws, high taxes and shit health care depending on which province you live in.

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>>32087639
I'm still on the fence about restricted. The storage and magazine laws are bullshit and annoying. The fucking ATT.

I know a lot of people don't comply but it's still annoying to me. Also don't you go through some daily background check if you have a restricted license? It just seems like all around bad deal.

>>32087882

You go through a daily background check if you just have a PAL, too.

It costs less to do them both at the same time than it does doing one and then the other later after you find out how cool handguns and AR-15's and semi-auto centerfire rifles with barrels shorter than 18.5" can be.

>>32087913
My safety office seemed to only allow doing 1 at a time. I know it's cheaper if you get both certificates and then submit for your PAL as opposed to doing them separate, that's for sure.

I'm well aware of how nice a lot of restricted weapons are, I just hate knowing the only legal reason to own one is for target practice. The regulations just seem like a pain in the ass to me, especially the ATT.

>>32087981

Except that you could lawfully meet the storage requirements by using one of those electronic safes and have a handgun and two loaded ten round magazines sitting right next to your computer desk or your bed, ready to go if you hear someone kicking in your door at night.

>>32087882
>>32087882
Pic made me triggered as fuck.

Would most likely start swinging.

>>32088020
Yeah but you can't legally defend yourself since our criminal code is a joke. You'd really have to be in a life or death situation to not be the one most at fault.

And chances are you'd get nailed with tons of other firearm based violations like:
>Why was the gun loaded?
>Why was the gun outside of a secure storage?
>Why did you point that firearm loaded/unloaded at that person?

All kinds of potential shit since the criminal code doesn't fully recognize firearm based self defense.

Until they make big changes I can't see me bothering with restricted shit as superior as the options may be.

>>32088120
>You'd really have to be in a life or death situation to not be the one most at fault.

Nope. Common misconception. You need only reasonably believe you are in danger. Someone kicked in your door at 03:00. How do you know what their intention is? They might just want your TV, or maybe they want to rape and kill everyone in the house with a 12 gauge. Can the crown prove beyond reasonable doubt that you are psychic and know what the intruders want and what they are armed with?

Hell, there's a precedent where a legit criminal killed police who were conducting a no-knock warrant and they got off the hook because how the fuck are they supposed to know?

>>32088034
You don't actually believe Sandy Hook was real, do you? It's one of the more provable "conspiracy" theories. It's got more holes than swiss cheese.

>>32088182
You can also shoot them in the back wjile theyre fleeing if theyre armed, just argue you feared that if they lived they would return and kill you later. No survivors. You can also use lethal force to protect substantial amounts of money or property, like a collection of guns, i dont about you but i would anything to prevnt my firearms from being stolen

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>>32088034

>>32081166
Yeah, my mosin from them was pretty shit but the ammo is good. They gave me a free pen and targets and shipping was quick. Calling in your cc number was sketch but they didnt chink me so whatever. They did forget to mail my order though but i called thme day after i placed it and they mailed it right away. Card wasnt charged until order was shipped. I wouldnt buy surp from them again unless its ammo

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Mauser has arrived lads, will be picking it up from the post office later today.

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How would my northern brethren react to pic related?

>>32090500
Checked.
The language choice of labeling citizens who fight against Ottawa and Weedman as "deserters" is too strong. Canadians would fight for Canada, as opposed to fighting for the States. Our interest would be mutual in overthrowing the current shit government and our shit constitution.

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>>32087510
What the fuck is even happening in Canada whit gun laws, leaf bros?

Here in America, at least in my state, I can own any gun I want without a license aside from machine guns.

I can open carry rifles and pistols, too.

>>32090533
What exactly do you want to know?

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Cool, just wondering. I live on the other side of the country by Mexico so I rarely meet y'all.

>>32088034
Kek, he thinks Sandy Hook was real.

Go to /pol/ and tell them to redpill you, quickly.

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>MFW chinese import ban is lifted in U.S and all the surplus ammo goes to the U.S

>>32090579
Hell yeah.

>>32090549
Do you need a liscense for every type of gun?
Are shotguns considered destructive devices?

What the fuck would happen if you open carried an AR-15 with a 5 round mag loaded.

I thought it was just a few liscenses and the tiny ass mags, but I see now that it's far worse.

>>32090594
>Are shotguns considered destructive devices?
You fucking what mate

>>32090594
>Do you need a license for every type of gun?
You need a PAL for any sort of long gun like an SKS, VZ-58, etc.
You need an RPAL for handguns
There's a bit more to it than that but that's the general rule.
The difference between non-restricted and restricted guns is you can shoot the former innawoods and the latter only at a range

>Are shotguns considered destructive devices?
No

>What the fuck would happen if you open carried an AR-15 with a 5 round mag loaded
You'd get arrested

>>32090604
A few shotguns are considered destructive devices in America, but now many.

Like the Streetsweeper, which is god awful anyways.

>>32090610
Aren't ALL shotguns "destructive devices"?

>>32090606
Holy shit, Canadia is cucked.

Come down here leaf bros, we can shoot MP5's together.

>>32090610
We can buy factory 8.5 inch barrels. Pretty pointless but fun to shoot

>>32090613
Perhaps, but America is weird.

Even if all of them are, legally speaking only a few are considered illegal destructive devices.

>>32090621
Weird stuff.

>>32090614
Trust me, I would if I could, but legal immigration is notoriously difficult if you're white and not an engineer.

I-I can still hope for the great annexing at the hands of based Trump, right?

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>>32090634
On our way.

>>32090594
Yes. You have to obtain a licence. This is a 'nne-time" thing. You renew it every few years. Think of it as a drivers licence, 'cept for guns.

Not sure what a "destructive device" is. Don't have that term here. There are three classes of firearms here: Non-restricted (generally speaking, shotguns and rifles fall into this category). Restricted (most handguns and short barreled firearms), and Prohibited (small handguns, and some other shit that most cannot own. Essentially getting "Grandfathered" through family is the only way to get Prohibited Endorsement now).

I don't think AR-15 are non-restricted here, or they didn't used to be. You cannot walk around with one open-carry. Mini-14 is non-restricted, however. You could technically "open carry" it, but unless you are in an area where you can legally shoot, it cannot be loaded. That being said, you wouldn't want to open carry any rifle here, unless you're in the bush where you can shoot. The Cops would hassle you in an instant.

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>>32090634
>>32090640
Fuck, you guys really are cucked.

Come down and shoot AK-47's and MP5's with us burgers if you geta chance.

>>32090640
>The Cops would hassle you in an instant
That's a massive understatement, the second they see you with a gun they'll arrest you, when they look into their law books and realize open carry isn't a crime (because how many cops actually know the laws?) they'll throw a disturbing the peace or criminal mischief charge at you.
Remember, legal gun owners are treated worse than pedophiles around here.

>>32090660
Obviously Cops take into account where you are...

If you're in downtown Toronto walking around with an unbagged Mini-14, you'll get hassled in a nanosecond. If you're in a hunting village, or walking from the gun store to your car, nobody will tend to care...

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>>32090660
>Gun owners are treated worse than pedophiles around here

Annexing as we speak.

>>32090657
We can own and shoot much of what you can, believe it or not...

The difference is, is the way we can go about it, and where we can go about it.

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>>32090673
Take all my poutine, you can have every drop of oil you want so long as I get to see Trudeau swaying in the wind.

>>32090660
Trust me, I know!

I popped off a few rounds with my Mini-14 in a local gravel pit... All safe, backdrop and all.

Someone called the cops, and the ENTIRE fucking cavalry showed up!

Arrested, gun seized, and was charged with "Careless Use of a Firearm."

This is a criminal charge, and I sweated bullets right up until the trial. I could lose my licence if found guilty.

Get to Court like a year later, and Crown says, "We won't pursue this charge."

Judge says, "Charge stayed. You are free to go."

In you guys' experience, does surplus ammo ever go on sale during Black Friday or Christmas?

>>32091266
Yeah, Cabela's is lowering their price on Russian surplus ammo this year by $50 I think. Should be on for $300.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/stone-pointe-rcmp-carbine-training-noise-1.3863361

It looks like another range is going to get a boat load of bullshit rules to appease people who built a house beside a gun range and not scare the refugees.

>>32091321
Shocker, we need to start pushing for suppressors citing cases like this as reasons why they're good.

>>32091321
>local range used to be relaxed
>RCMP now wants RSO watching whenever range is active

I want horsecops to leave.

>>32088120
>Why was the gun loaded?
I loaded it
>Why was the gun outside of a secure storage?
I took it out in order to defend my life and home.
>Why did you point that firearm loaded/unloaded at that person?
I was in fear for my life.

Ask stupid questions, get stupid answers. Get out of jail, collect 200 loonies, pass go.

Nobody kicks in a door to an occupied home unless they're willing to tie/rape/torture/kill the occupants. I've met some guys who used to do home invasions and they're rightfully spending the rest of their lives in prison. It would have been better if a homeowner had shot them instead.

The criminal code doesn't need to recognize "firearm based self defense" because self defence is self defence. If the action is justified it doesn't matter what tools you used. You have the right to use whatever means necessary to remove a threat.

Officially there are only two legal reasons to ask for a restricted firearms license, sport shooting and collecting. It's not illegal to collect if your license was granted for sport shooting or versa vice. It's also not illegal to use your guns for other things like self defence or sexual pleasure. Stop thinking like a fudd and learn the law.

>>32090634
I know a white person with no college who got a green card to work at a department store. It's not that hard.

There's no need to leave though, things will change. The real Canada is coming back, the kind of Canada John A. MacDonald dreamed about.

>>32090402
Sweet! Post pics! Don't forget to have your toes in the shot, as is tradition.

>>32090594
No such thing as destructive device. We can have 1.00 calibre firearms if we want. Almost all AR's in Canada are what you'd call SBR's and anything that is either rimfire or manually operated (lever, pump, bolt or break action) only needs to be 26" in overall length to be non restricted (restricted just means it's a range toy).

>>32092486
All ARs in Canada are restricted by name. There is no way to get a true AR15 classified as NR.
>Tavors, ACRs, XCRs, etc are all good to go though.

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>have a Ruger GSR on layaway for range fuckery purposes
>can reuse the deposit as credit on something else if I change my mind
>heart tells me to buy the Ruger
>brain tells me to get a Tikka instead

>>32087869
Still better gun laws than some US states :^)

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>>32087882
lol what?

it's not a pain at all, and i don't know what magazine thing is you're talking about

>daily background check
all firearms license holders are ran by a computer system daily, restricted or not

>storage
you just have to put a trigger lock on them then put them in a locked case or cabinet, or just in a safe with no trigger lock

you'll want to get a gun cabinet anyways, and they only cost like $200, then you can put your hand guns in there with a trigger lock

you also need to keep the registration papers for the guns

>ATT
the ATT is part of your license, the only hassle is when you buy the gun you have to call them to issue you a STATT to bring it home (if you order online you dont have to do any of this)

Restricted is barely more hassle than NR, i don't know what fudd places you people come from where all this misinfo is spread

Where I live I haven't even seen a stand alone non restricted course offered, it's all two in one

>>32087981
>I'm well aware of how nice a lot of restricted weapons are, I just hate knowing the only legal reason to own one is for target practice
that and hunting are the only valid reasons for any gun in canada

>especially the ATT
it's pretty clear that you have no idea what an ATT actually is or how it works


Who the fuck is spreading this misinfo? It seems like fudd instructors are telling people bullshit about how restricted works

>>32090676
>We can own and shoot much of what you can, believe it or not...
>HK g36 banned
>FN FAL
>Steyr AUG
>All AK variants
>SCAR
>GALIL
>All short barreled handguns
>All thompsons and variants

and a ton more shit

i'd say we can get maybe 50% the shit they can at most

>>32092908
SL8 is legal (semi auto only pseudo G36), as are Valmet AKs. Our big bonus is being able to import stuff without the same type of restrictions as the USA, and being able to get Chinese guns.

>>32092908
>HK g36 banned

No it's not.

>All AK variants

Valmets. Also, the Swiss Arms rifles are technically just gussied-up AK's. Take a look at the internals and compare.

We get a bunch of stuff they can't. Mostly Chinese stuff, but still.

We lose out on more than we gain, but we're still 2nd best in the Anglosphere with New Zealand a close 3rd.

>>32093087

There is at least one legit semi-auto G36 in the country (from before Germany's laws went full retard or something).

>>32093087
those are both so rare it's not even worth mentioning

and chinese guns are nothing special

>>32093100
rare $3000+ guns

you guys are being pedantic

>>32093113
Well you're the one bitching about a grand total of 2 groups of firearms that are both common in other markets and prohibited here, namely the FAL and AK family. Everything else you're bitching about is pretty uncommon in the USA. In the mean time we can get things like actual Czech made VZ58s, Type 81s, and Type 97s. It's not perfect, and I would definitely love it if AKs were legal here, but it's not nearly as bad as you claim.

>>32093113
>Make incorrect statement
>Get pissed when someone corrects it

You'll be hard pressed to find someone in the Canada General that doesn't want reform to our firearm laws. Someone (you?) wanted to know what our firearm laws were. Why are you so intent on turning into a dick-waving contest?

>>32093134
they have vz58s too

the 4.25" barrel law alone cuts out half the handguns around

>>32093152
autism

You guys seem to think I'm the American who originally posted, I'm not, I'm just pointing out that it's not fair to say we can get "most" of the stuff they can

And handguns/ARs may as well be banned to a lot of people since they don't have access to a range, or at least not one that's worth shooting at

>>32093203

So what have you done to improve the situation, then?

>>32093203
>the 4.25" barrel law alone cuts out half the handguns around
Except that most handguns have a version with a longer barrel.
>they have vz58s too
Made in USA brand VZ58s, not up to the same quality as the Czech ones.

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>>32093113
>being so poor 3000$ is expensive for you.
I guess youll never get into long range shooting or big bore. Just a decent scope alone is 3000$, good long range guns all range from 5000$ to 17000$ and 50cals and up are in the same price range. Im looking at an accuracy international, with no scope/bipod or anything else and its 12000$.

>>32093231
>Except that most handguns have a version with a longer barrel.
I've never come across one in real person, i've only seen them very rarely online, and again a frankengun with a goofy barrel is the same thing anymore

CSA stuff is czech made, they just do some final assembly in the US

I think you're think of the VZ20008 which were super cheap century arms guns

>>32093224
What do you mean? As far as activism, or some contribution towards improving the situation?

I got 4 other friends to get their pals, and have donated to the various firearms advocacy organizations and am an NFA member, signed petitions, wrote letters etc.

I don't really understand why you bring this up though, were you trying to go for some "don't complain since you're not doing anything about it!" argument? I think someone's complaints are still perfectly valid regardless of what they've done to change it

Ultimately we live in a dictatorship and those things do very little anyways

>>32093287
$3000 isn't particularly expensive to me, but it is for a lot of people, especially those who have families and other responsibilities

I don't know why you have such a hard time having an objective conversation without making crazy assumptions about the poster and making personal attacks to an anonymous person you know nothing about

Having to pay 3x what something is worth for the "non restricted tax" isn't a cool thing and we all know this, you don't need to call someone poor because you want to justify how you've spent your money

You believe it's worth it to you, and that's fine, but you should be able to objectively understand why that is prohibitively expensive, or simply just not worth it to a lot of people who have other interests and responsibilities outside of firearms

You seem to think unless your entire life and identity revolves around guns you don't deserve to have them, which is a pretty shit attitude in my opinion

>>32093335

I'm pretty sure the Czech stuff they get has a single-stack magwell that then needs to be milled out for them to be able to use normal double-stack magazines on top of a certain percentage of components being American-made in order to meet 922r compliance.

>We live in a dictatorship
If by "dictatorship" you mean "parliamentary democracy", sure.

If you think that these actions don't do anything substantial, then it kinda sounds like bullshit.

And yes, if you complain but don't do anything to improve the situation, you're worse than the ones that do nothing but don't complain.

>non restricted tax

Making non-standard ANYTHING takes more time and money. Especially when it ends up using more material and the initial tooling may not be made in such a way as to accommodate the longer barrel lengths.

We're a comparatively small market and we pay the premiums that come from that.

>You believe it's worth it to you, and that's fine, but you should be able to objectively understand why that is prohibitively expensive, or simply just not worth it to a lot of people who have other interests and responsibilities outside of firearms

This is like complaining that a six ton truck doesn't cost the same as a Nissan Micra.

>You seem to think unless your entire life and identity revolves around guns you don't deserve to have them, which is a pretty shit attitude in my opinion

Re-read his post three times. Doesn't seem like he said anything like that at all to me. Projecting?

>>32093335
Are you the same autist that ruins every Canada thread with retarded arguments and politics? Im having a feeling i shouldnt have replied to you just then and shouldnt now but im in the rabbit hole already
>You seem to think unless your entire life and identity revolves around guns you don't deserve to have them

Are you fucked? Where have i implied that im just calling you poor, not saying people shouldnt own guns if they can afford it.

>I don't know why you have such a hard time having an objective conversation without making crazy assumptions about the poster and making personal attacks to an anonymous person you know nothing about

Its the Internet.

>Having to pay 3x what something is worth for the "non restricted tax" isn't a cool thing and we all know this,

Theres a reason valmets are expensive. Cause theyre not made anymore making them highly collectable, there were only imported in small numbers to the us(in the thousands for all variants) and less made it in Canada, only a few hundred made it in and theyre mostly in inuit hands or in collections and not for sale. The price hasnt been artificially inflated cause of some tax, is high CAUSE THEYRE COLLECTABLE. literally any gun thats rare,collectable, high quality, etc will cost alot. I hear people bitch and moan all them time about valmets being expensive simply cause a wasr 10 cost like 800$ ive had people tell me its overpriced cause its just a sheet metal gun. Its like comparing a rolex to a timex, sure they do the same thing, but ones much better quality and less common.

Either way the whole point of my last post was to point out that 3000$ is absolutely nothing when talking about serious collecting or shooting.

>>32093576
Also id like to point out this neat thing call layaway or financing. It goes like this, you see something really expensive you need and want, like for example, a non restricted ak, but you cant afford to spend 4500$ all at once, but what you can do is make a down payment, and then a few smaller payments that suit your budget. Boom you can now afford any gun you want while having money for other stuff. Theres some cheeky cunt on here who claims hes getting a 15000$ GM6 lynx, pretty sure hes putting it on layaway like i described

>>32093514
As far as gun regulations go it's pretty dictatorial, I wasn't referring to the country as a whole

I've never understood the "if you don't do this minor thing you can't complain" argument, I think people's complaints are still plenty valid, I don't see why someone who didn't vote or didn't write a letter, or attend a protest, or whatever, can't complain about something they don't like

>>32093576
>Are you the same autist that ruins every Canada thread with retarded arguments and politics?
i don't think so, i don't often bring up politics here, nor have I in this conversation, and I'm sure there's a lot more than just one guy who does that

You're going off on a tangent that doesn't have much to do with what I said

My point was our options are limited to obscure collectables that to someone who isn't into the obscure collectable part is left paying a bunch of money just because they want something can bring innawoods

To say "no that's not banned there's a tiny number of obscure variants you can get that barely anyone has" is a pretty pedantic point

I thought that was pretty clear, but then you guys went on to explain things we all know, so I guess it wasn't

>>32093671
Don't those places usually have pretty brutal interest? Seems like getting a line of credit would be the more prudent choice if you don't want to wait until you've saved enough money


Also, didn't you guys read the OP?

>>32091352
>life and home.
>and home

yer dun bud, you're not allowed to defend property

>>32093755
>Don't those places usually have pretty brutal interest?
Private sales dont. Its how i saved 1500$ on my valmet even with importing it

>>32093783
Yes you are, you have legal obligation to prevent your firearms from being stolen.

>>32093796
Not sure what you're saying here

My friend was talking about financing the other day though and the local gun financing service here is like 16%~ or something if you want a loan longer than 3 months, that's almost credit card tier

>>32093817
You literally just ask someone selling their gun if you can put a down payment on it and pay the rest in x amount of time.

>>32093806
has there ever been a case of someone getting away with using a gun to defend their property? even if it was just to scare them off or hold them at gun point until police arrived or something

just curious if there's many, or any precedents for this type of thing

>>32093832
oh, right

in the case of being worried about something getting away on you

is it that common for people to be comfortable with that kind of arrangement? aren't people usually selling things because they need the money? seems bizarre they'd be willing to wait, but i suppose you can get lucky on occasion

>>32090191
Thanks anon, i'm glad to hear they aren't a total scam or anything. What was so shit about the mosin? I don't tend to buy funs online anyways, just curious what they gave you

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Is it true that with smokeless powder there's no velocity increase past 18"~ barrel length and that these long barreled shotguns are just a product of perpetuating fuddlore?

>>32093893

Long barrels give you a longer sight radius, making it easier to aim.

As for velocity and spread for shot...

http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=111

>>32093930
does sight radius still make much difference when most people are just using a front bead anyways?

>>32093930
interesting article

so there is really no good reason for 28" barrel shotguns to exist

>>32093975

How much a difference it'll make, I don't know.

It probably wouldn't be worth the extra weight and reduced maneuverability afforded by the longer barrel.

>>32093996

Seems like it. Chokes are far more effective at tightening up a group.

moleman is the accuracy internation you're talking about getting going to be in lapua?

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>>32094049
Nvm i forgot it was a kit, includes the rifle, Schmidt/Bender 5-25x56 PMII scope, 2 factory magazines, factory bipod, factory sling, large factory metal case, 100 brand new Lapua brass, approx. 450 Sierra Match King 300gr projectiles, 6 cans of H1000 powder, RCBS die sets, Swarovski 8x range finder, data sheet good to 1 mile. Asking price is $12,290. The gun itself is around 5800$

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>>32094150
And yea The Accuracy international is 338. There also this Sako TRG 42 338 LM with a Schmidt & Bender PMII 5-25x56 + BORS(Barrett Optical Ranging System) for 15000$

>>32093996

Long ass shotgun barrels shift the weight toward the front of the gun which makes for more follow-through when shooting clays or birds.

>>32093857
It came pretty beat up and the bolt is sticky as fuck. I bought my sks from lever arms and it was completely cosmoline free, the mosin from tenda looked like it literally just came out of the cosmoline vat. Obviously when buying surplus you shiuld expect cosmoline, but for me I'd rather just buy from lever arms where they clean up for me and its local for me too. Honestly though results may vary, I don't want to tarnish Tenda's brand over a mosin, because everything else was fine. The 54r strippers are a little flimsy from them too though

>>32094359
i shoot clays with a 20" and do very well, i find the lack of weight to swing around makes it work well

>>32094150
>>32094187
where are you looking at these?

also what do you do for work now? are you making pretty good money or do you just live on the cheap with a bunch of room mates and what not?

i make ok money but after rent, bills, car payment, insurance it would probably take me two years to save up for a $15k gun

>>32091321

This range is across the street from my office. I just got my PAL and intend on getting a membership there.

they had better not fucking ruin it.

>>32094526

Get involved.

>>32094560

I'm very new to this. How can I help?

>>32094579

Write to newspapers, write to your representatives, go meet these representatives if possible (look sharp).

The people at the club SHOULD be organizing. Go join up with them. If people aren't organizing, start.

>>32094455
Im not buying these, i dont really have an interest in artistically precise long range shooting, i prefer sending large amounts of ammo the same distance but with less accuracy. But i guess there nothing more terrifying than precise well placed rifle shots from long range. I for one fear old fudds in a shtf scenario, and will refuse to cross open fields cause those real tree wearing cunts can head shot you from 1000yards and no armor you can get will protect you from 300win.

>>32094677
>artistically
You know what mean

>>32094654

Representatives as in members of parliament or?

>>32094677
oh, by "looking at" i thought you meant you were intending to buy one

>>32091321
I live across the river from Connaught ranges in Ottawa, some Serbian bitch wrote the local newspaper about how triggered she was by the sound of the CF/RCMP/civi shooters, even brought up war rape for some reason.
The range has been there since the fucking 40's. I hate the fucking people in this country sometimes

>>32093576
then buy some real fucking gear for when you go larping in the woods with that chug and the other homosexual with a valmet

>>32094720

Federal, provincial and municipal governments.

>>32094777
Like i would buy it but for 15k theres alot of other cool shit i could get like an apc, or gyrocopter that i could mount guns onto, the only problem with spending lots of money is how to spend it.

>>32094857
ian fleming pls

>>32094905
Whos gonna stop me? The cops? Theyll be down there on the ground while im up above them laughing at their inability to reach me

>>32094922
are you gonna have a martini bar in there with you?

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Today, I am hasguns.

>>32094957
No an antique samovar

>tfw you realize moleman is too young to be familiar with james bond

>>32095059
I know who ian Fleming is, i have all the original James bond on vhs somewhere, from dr. No to license to kill.

>>32090706
did they take your license? any info given on why they dropped the charge?

>>32095187
>why they dropped the charge?

It's always to prevent a court precedent.

>>32095022
What is that?

>>32093833
most time, yes

reason you hear imfamous case about man get charged for defend himself against 2 people that throw firebomb at him because Crown think he keep loaded gun beside his bed.
not mind that he is trained firearm instructor and he demonstrate that he can load his handgun really fast

all crown do is provide that you probably face less headache for defend yourself with non-restricted guns

>>32095252

The crown prosecutor actually accused him of tampering with evidence in court because they didn't find his .38 Special casings on the ground at the scene... He was then totally confused why everyone was laughing at him.

>>32095218
what a waste of fucking time.

>>32095297

The process is the punishment.

You can have your ass dragged outside in the cold dressed in nothing but your undies at 04:00 by a dozen cops while all your neighbours watch, lose your job, have your property damaged and not even get a "sorry" when it eventually gets dropped.

>>32095308
spurious charges should be a criminal offence

the only question is who would charge the crown?

are there any options for a modern tacticool semi auto in 308 in canada?

>>32096364
Assuming you're looking for non-restricted:

>FAMAE 542
>Norinco M305 with m14.ca furniture
>Kel-tek RDB
>maybe SCAR 17 when the lab results are in (ETA 2029)

>>32096364
>>32096426
Also the ATRS Modern Hunter, can't believe I glossed over that one.

>>32096439
>will only work with premium match grade ammo
Theres a reason theres tons of people selling them. Its pretty common on the EE

>>32096426
>>32096439
Those russians in edmonton used to sell the medved 308 but their site is all cattywompus now.. i member skeltor bought a makarov off them and he met them in a parking lot, they are a sponsoring business on cgn so they must be legit. The medved is like an svd but its non restricted

>>32096426
>Kel-tek RDB

Meant to write RFB. Brain is mush right now.

>>32095251
Ruger M77 Scout, left-hand ver. 7.62 real fuckin' NATO.

>>32096426
>Norinco M305 with m14.ca furniture
>spending more than the gun's worth on railz

it's always gonna be a chink knockoff

>>32096649
What site was it, I didn't know the medved was still sold anywhere.

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>>32095022
Good choice bud. I bought mine right when they came out, I'am a little jelly now that the ones with flash hiders are being imported.

>>32096426
>SCAR 17
lose lose situation

if its NR, it'll be like $6000. if R then who fucking cares, I have a AR anyways.

>>32096768
Interammo
Their site has changed a lot, they used to advertise makarov, viking pistol, russian .22 rifles and the medved

>>32090500

I memed Trump into office faggot.

>>32093287

Well to be fair you save a lot of money by not eating and ilving in a shallow grave.

>>32093832

No one is going to do this.

>Sure I'll extend credit to some fucking nobody poorfag, I'm sure he's good for it.

Even if you propose that he hangs onto it for you until the balance is paid, he's still tying up money he could have access to if he just sold it to an actual cash buyer. I've had faggots offer me these arrangements when selling cars and motorcycles and shit. The answer is no, I'm not a bank, go fuck yourself.

>>32098343
I must be incredibly jewish then cause that arrangement almost always works for me, it worked with my valmet and the guy lived in Florida and never dealt with a Canadian before

slam bang is coming together nicely lads

>>32099440

What barrel length did you go with?

>>32099492
24" cause that's all the hardware store had that wasn't 6" and I'm too lazy/don't have my hacksaw with me to cut it down
protip the emory cloth removes material a fuck ton faster than a bastard file
just need to get the 1" dowel for the hammer

>>32097562
Oh neat. Guess it's kind of cool that I might run across a Medved then, since they aren't selling any more.

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So I kinda want a pic related kind of setup for my retro AR. But 203s are so fucking expensive. Are there cheaper, say, 37mm alternatives that look correct?

>>32094857
>Gyrocopter
I'd love a DH-2 or Dr.1 replica. Or a Stearman.

>>32099633
They do make the launchers, and I know I saw a repro handguard like that somewhere... but I can't find it now.

I'm sorry. I know that's no help. Just keep looking.

>>32099712
You remember the name of the launcher? I've seen Cobrays, but new ones are all fagged up with rails.
>Tfw my LGS owner has a complete upper with launcher and everything, but refuses to trade
Reeee

>>32094526

Regina anon, are you in the discord chat yet?

>>32094720
Regina Anon, join the discord m80
https://discord.gg/NN58BmT

>>32099758
Jim?

>>32099925
Yep. Fucker won't trade me, says he "plans to do something with it", but it's sat unnoticed in the back for years. Dick.

>>32096426
>SCAR 17
SCAR's are already on the prohib list, not entirely sure why IRG is trying again.

>>32100586

They were prohibited because the RCMP, being allowed to get FA stuff, purchased full-auto components directly from FNH and then swapped them in.

>Too easily converted! :^)

Maybe they got some custom changes that prevent those components being swapped in.

>>32100656
Its an entirely new lower, but doubtful that'll make a difference since it'll probably just be seen as a variant and thrown into the prohib pile.

>>32100947
If it's an entirely new lower, they'll probably give it a chance. They did for that ATRS notAR.

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you guys buying anything for black friday?

glad I woke up early for in stock pmags

>>32100947
variants of full autos, converted full autos or "easily converted" firearms are not prohib

>>32087869
>Lack of property rights
And yet Canada doesn't have anything like Civil Forfeiture, which is worse than having no property rights.

>>32090500
I'd join the resistance and try to kill as many occupying soldiers as possible.

And frankly I wish people would stop pretending that being forcibly annexed would be a good thing, and somehow magically increase our freedom.

>>32090555
>an army of meme makers
He certainly does, considering the BS of that picture, since A) Obama is still in Office, and B) whenever it was up any other time in the last 4 years conservatives downplayed it hard.

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>>32102582
>join the resistance
I have a feeling you'd be in the minority with that one. I've seen a lot of canucks with gats and maga hats I think going turncoat with be the more popular option, even more so since we could say with almost complete certainty that the US would emerge successful.

>somehow magically increase our freedom.
it wouldn't be magic. it's called actual constitutionally guaranteed rights for things like freedom of speech and gun ownership, both of which are effectively privileges here.

>>32102240
Go look up a 12 (3) prohib license

Just got myself a great condition 870 Wingmaster for christmas; it's got a 28in full-choke fudd howitzer barrel on it. Is it legal for me to buy a <18.5 barrel like a 12 or 14in and put it on there? As long as the gun is over 26in OAL; is it prohib to put a short barrel on it if it came with a long barrel?

>>32102240
Easily converted, and former full autos are prohibited. 12.2 and 12.3 license classifications allow you to own them. Semi auto versions of full auto rifles are legal, so long as they were duty built to be semi auto.

>>32102732
>hey Canadian friends, we're just marching our army into your nation and forcibly taking control, so we can make sure you enjoy all the rights and freedoms guaranteed by the US constitution.
That's why it's retard magic. Because it would never just be a fucking annexation, it would be a multi-year diplomatic process that would see complete change on both-sides of the border, if not some sort of exemption from the normal process.

>freedom of speech
Yeah yeah, not being able to hold a KKK styled convention is really ruining the freedom of speech in Canada.

>gun ownership
No disagreement there. But I'm not going to trade my sovereignty, history, and traditions, not to mention dozens of Canadian's rights the US DOESN'T recognize just for guns (inb4 muh Property Rights, Civil Forfeiture is worse than than not having a 'guarantee').

>I've seen a lot of canucks with gats and maga hats
Hell I've got one myself, bought it as a joke, and so idiots like you would ignore me. But if you think the average Canadian vastly supports Trump, then you don't meet enough average Canadians, because basically only the alt-right of Canada supports him. Seriously, because 'serious conservatives' (both politicians and constituents) know he's a joke, they're the same Canadian conservatives that don't bitch about gays or abortion (ie: most of them).

>>32087882

Whats funny is that Pizzagate is basically what Alex Jones has been saying for decades

Conspiracy theories take about 10 years to become well known fact. By the time it stops being a conspiracy theory, "ITS OLD NEWS GOYIM, STOP TALKING ABOUT OLD NEWS. SEE THE DATE ON THE ARTICLE FOR G-D SAKES"

>>32103544
>Yeah yeah, not being able to hold a KKK styled convention is really ruining the freedom of speech in Canada.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/mike-ward-comedian-human-rights-tribunal-1.3689465

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/steakhouse-loses-12000-human-rights-tribunal-ruling-after-ignoring-germaphobes-requests

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jan/22/canada-man-twitter-harassment-not-guilty-gregory-alan-elliot

http://www.therebel.media/i_m_being_prosecuted_for

When I was younger I knew a guy who faced prison time for sharing racist punk rock songs on an IRC channel

We have serious issues with SJWs stiffing free speech and expression in Canada, you're not reading the news if you think that isn't the case

>>32103600
>We have serious issues with SJWs
that anon is one of them, his writing style and habitual shitting up of every thread is easily identifiable

>>32103544
>dozens of Canadian's rights the US DOESN'T
what are these you're referring to?

i don't even know of any actual guaranteed rights in Canada, isn't everything a privilege?

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>>32092445
Sure, took a quick picture of it before I had to leave with my friend to shoot some (new and fun) 7.62x54R bullets that they also apparently had included.

>>32102281
nationalpost.com/news/canada/first-they-took-his-guns-now-the-government-wants-firearms-law-protesters-house-too

>>32103880
>>32102281

your link is broken

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/first-they-took-his-guns-now-the-government-wants-firearms-law-protesters-house-too

>>32102989
If variants of full auto guns were prohibited, we wouldn't have vz58's, among many other examples.

>>32103900
Sorry, posting from a phone. It apparently didn't copy the first bit...

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>>32103345
bls respond

>>32103345
shotguns don't have barrel length rules, just OAL

you're fine

keep in mind below 14" you start to see drops in velocity

also you'll probably have a really hard time finding a barrel that short, and it may not fit the magazine

>>32103901
Full auto guns converted to semi auto only are prohibited. A semi auto version of a full auto gun, that was built from the ground up as a semi auto, is not prohibited.

>>32104045

That's an oversimplification.

Manually-operated actions (bolt, lever, pump, break-action) and semi-automatic rimfires only need to meet the 26" OAL to be non-restricted.

Note that the barrel cannot be cut down but must be manufactured at that short length.

Contact Dlask.

Commiefornian here. Canada bros just how much of a pain in the ass is dealing with ATTs with an RPAL? Amount of time, extra red tape/bureaucracy, etc. Also just how much does this process vary by province? I've only been to BC personally.

Also dumb unrelated question, as a non-Canadian would I have to own property in Canada to get a PAL? I'm not necessarily interested in buying guns in Canada because there's a whole other layer of Import/Export BS but rather so I could visit with my state side toys, as opposed to the RCMP temp importation from.

>>32104217
ATTs are fairly easy. Short term version is needed to take a handgun home from a store, but after that you have a long term one permanently applied to your license allowing you to take any restricted to and from any range you want.
No, PALs are open to anyone, so long as they can pass the course. If you are from another country, you'll need to talk to your local police station to get a letter of good standing stating that you are not a criminal. That being said, you won't really be able to get handguns, since they have to be stored at the property that you have on your license.

>>32104217
>how much of a pain in the ass is dealing with ATTs with an RPAL
none at all really, it's a slightly longer course and you have to register restricted firearms (this is all done by the gun store when you buy it)

you also need to get a paper ST(short term)ATT to take it home from the gun store when you buy it, they got rid of long term ATTs last year, in the past you had to apply for an extra piece of paper

You're also supposed to double lock restricted (trigger lock, locked case) or keep them in a real safe (not gun cabinet)

The real shit part about restricted is you're only allowed to shoot them at firing ranges

>non-canadian
you do not have to be a citizen to get a PAL
i don't think you need a residence here either

if you're bringing your own shit in you have to do special paperwork every time you enter the country, pal is unnecessary and makes no difference, all the PAL would help you with is buying ammo here

>>32104217
>as a non-Canadian would I have to own property in Canada to get a PAL

No. You'll need to get the police in your area to send a letter to them, though.

>just how much of a pain in the ass is dealing with ATTs with an RPAL

RPAL is no more difficult to get than a normal PAL. It's just more time and money.

ATT's only matter if you're buying from a shop in person, since you need a STATT (Short Term Authorization To Transport) to bring it home, but most people these days just have their guns delivered right to their door.

>>32104217
what is it exactly you're trying to do? that would help us determine if there's any point

do you want to shoot at ranges in canada? or shoot innawoods?

ranges require you to have a pal to shoot your own guns there, but most ranges will let you bring one non pal holder with you AFAIK

i can't really think of anything the pal would help with aside from that, but like i said it would help if we knew what you're trying to do

>>32104303
I should of been more specific but I'm trying to brush up on Canadian laws generally. So I've got a no-guns friend that lives in BC. At some point I want to go back and visit him again but with my equipment. I have a AR that would be restricted up there but given that I built it myself and lacks any kind of serial # I'm guessing that's not going to fly, if I could I'd be interested in how ATTs work there. I do have a 30-06 semi auto that would be non-restricted I could bring with me however.

I'd prefer to shoot at a regular range, but if they require someone holds a PAL I'd probably have to get one since my friend doesn't really have an interest in getting one himself.

>>32104347
Are you aware you can only shoot restricted guns at a range?

If you want to shoot with your friend at a range you may as well just rent guns at that point

>I'd prefer to shoot at a regular range
I'm not sure what you mean by "regular range"

your serial numberless AR definitely won't fly and you could find yourself criminally charged and/or detained at the border and banned from canada forever

>>32104347
>>32104410

If you put a serial number on it and register it with the mounties, it should be fine. People make their own AR's in Canada as well.

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Where can I legally fire a non-restricted gun?

>>32104463
Range, crown land where it's safe to do so, privately owned land where it's safe to do so and you have permission from the land owner.

>>32104410
>Are you aware you can only shoot restricted guns at a range?
I was aware restricted guns can only be shot at special ranges.

>regular range
I mean somewhere with regular facilities and not just innawoods. Am I to assume a non-resident firearms deceleration form would be sufficient if a range requires a PAL to shoot my own firearms there? I might look up a few places in my buddies neck of the woods and see if anyone there rents and what they charge.

>your serial numberless AR definitely won't fly
I assumed that much and wasn't planning on trying to cross the border with it anytime soon. Might give the RCMP a call just because.

>>32104453
I'll have to check the form, I wouldn't necessarily have an issue with applying just a number to my gun but as far as my name and location that ain't happening while I still live in commiefornia.

>>32104453
i'm sure he has no intention of doing that

>>32103600
>comedian loses case.
Ironic considering most conservatives do nothing but whine about comedy and satire. Also troubling, but when you get into the meat of it the social issue just the leverage to bring the guy to trial over making his routine into one long insult against some kid and his mom. Sounds like the kind of thing that would fall right into Trump's loose definition of slander.

>germophobe sues restaurant
Has nothing to do with free speech.

>guy harasses people via online messaging
>gets off because he didn't actually threaten them
Once again, that's things working as intended.

>the rebel
Breitbart Canada, ignored.
>>32103709
I habitually shit up this place with my 'SJW'-ness because of fucks who have to constantly shit it up by going on about how it'd be great if we were annexed, that the alt-right is somehow fucking normal, or the latest bit of bullshit, that because John A. MacDonald was an old fashioned racist is all the reason we need to band non-whites from Canada.

It's not like people started calling me "angry halifax guy" because I'm known to not voice my concern over this or that issue.

>>32104478
>I mean somewhere with regular facilities and not just innawoods
those don't really exist, in some of the praries/rural areas there are unsupervised ranges but you have to be a member to use them

any "approved" firing range which would generally be any range open to the public you can shoot restricted at

in BC every range I know of is a supervised range

>Am I to assume a non-resident firearms deceleration form would be sufficient if a range requires a PAL to shoot my own firearms there?
perhaps, but i highly doubt it

they may not trust your knowledge of firearms safety as you didn't have to take the canadian safety course

does your friend live in the lower mainland? if so i could give you some more in depth situation as to what it's like here

>>32103900
>decides to purposely break the law to send a message
>is surprised when he gets his door kicked in
>is apparently also surprised when all the illegal shit he has laying around is used against him
Then again, it says this idiot also stripped to his underwear when going through a metal detector once, so he's not exactly what I'd call a model of common sense and reason.

>>32104481
Correct, I currently live in commieforniastan so that's not happening. At least with my main rifle. According to the RCMP non-resident deceleration form they only want make and a serial#. So if I took another lower and stamped it with a number of my own that might work.

>>32104504
My buddy lives on Vancouver Island but I could get him over to the mainland if I had to. Sounds like I should call any perspective range in advance to check if they're gonna require a PAL.

>>32104483
>comedian loses case
why are you going on a crazy straw man tangent and talking about shit that has nothing to do with this specifically

>Once again, that's things working as intended.
he lost his job and went bankrupt

often the process is the punishment, he was not compensated

>Breitbart Canada, ignored.
you can't just ignore a legitimate grievance that he has solid proof of

>germophobe sues restaurant
he didn't sue them, the insane human rights commission did

this is an example of rights being violated, and still on topic with our discussion of things that would be protected in america and not here

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>>32104474
This is the type of area I'm working with. A friend of mine is in the military and has his RPAL, I have my regular PAL. Anyway, all I want to do is go down this dirt path on the right and find somewhere out in the woods to fire off some rounds.

The biggest thing I'm concerned about is the sound travel.. but I mean in this case his property is way the fuck at the end of the road and far into the woods is an enormous lake. So, basically across that lake is more woods and then beyond that is a highway.. but by the time you get there it's probably a solid 10-15KM or more from his house (which is on the left side up that driveway in this pic).

Do I have much else to worry about or consider?

I do want to join a range at some point but the memberships are like $150-200 where I live and I'd sooner practice some on my own first.

>>32104529
if the guy wants to shoot he may as well just go to a rental range man

also, most ranges out here suck shit, they are crowded as fuck and ROs watch you like a hawk

a range packed shoulder to shoulder with 30 people firing at once from 3 foot wide stalls is not an enjoyable experience

if he's in a rural part of vancouver island there may be a better range though

>>32104527
>Civil forfeiture is worse than not having property rights!
>Case of civil forfeiture in Canada, both federally and provincially, one of which straight up takes his home
>But he's an idiot for protesting unjust laws!

>>32104347
Its easier to get him down there and to have him shoot.

>>32104533
what province/region is this in?

>>32104576
Nova Scotia, Halifax area.

>>32104556
>>32104575
So it's sounding more and more like I'd be better off just going to a place that has rentals and/or seeing if I can get him back down to the states if I want to use my own gear.

>>32104558
>forfeiture in Canada requires you to be convicted of a crime in a court of law
>Civil Forfeiture in the US does not, and has been known to not be returned even in cases where the accused was found not guilty
You're an idiot for not knowing the difference.

>>32104558
>>But he's an idiot for protesting unjust laws!
Also way to pretend that's how he got himself charged. He had all kinds of things that are considered illegal under current laws, and while full auto, sawed off, scury assault rifles with shoulder-things that go up being banned IS retarded, you don't protest drug laws by calling the cops to your house with 10 kilos of cocaine on your coffee table.

>>32104588
yeah, pretty much

>>32104583
looks ok to me, and nova scotia isn't a particularly anti gun province

with all those trees i doubt anyone would even hear anything either

>>32104483
>Ironic considering most conservatives do nothing but whine about comedy and satire
they haven't been doing that since the 80s and 90s, and it wasn't just conservatives a lot of leftists were involved with that shit too

remember all those music inquisitions the US government did and leftists like al gore were all over that shit too

>>32104651
It's not, but we're pretty fuddy out here.

And as long as there's noone living right on the lake, I doubt anyone will ever know if you go plinking nearby. Remember that sound carries over water though.

>>32104483
respond to >>32103777

not even him but seriously, which rights? you said dozens I'll be disappointed if you fall significantly short of that.

>most conservatives do nothing but whine about comedy and satire
I think that's only for things like john stewart/colbert/trevor noah/current year guy who aren't talented enough to be actual stand up comedians so they have teams of writers doing the work for them, and they overwhelmingly hold liberal / anti-conservative views. its politics masquerading behind comedy. I don't really care because I only watch fox news ;^)

>halifax
I think that makes you a bit isolated to certain issues that have been really popular this election, like immigration, lack of cultural integration, national identity, etc.

>>32087510
What are the laws regarding people from other countries, specifically Britain, to go to Canada to shoot something?

>>32104759
>I think that makes you a bit isolated to certain issues that have been really popular this election, like immigration, lack of cultural integration, national identity, etc.

You could say he is really "privileged" to not have to deal with those issues.

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>>32104715
>>32104651

This is an above view, no one is really around or near the lake, it's very isolated. I haven't actually explored the area at all but I plan to and see if I can find a good spot.

>>32104787

Any (R)PAL holder can let anyone else they seem capable to shoot their firearms as long as they are within arm reach at the time. Many ranges will rent out firearms for a fee and you can easily get a (R)PAL of your own if you want to go through the trouble.

>>32104787
some ranges have options to rent their guns and shoot a few rounds. no license or anything required, that's only for ownership. they're grossly over priced but nogun normies don't care

>>32104802
Turn on roads and terrain. If you cant get a safe backstop and there are trails through there then its not safe.

>>32104813
>>32104808
By something i mean an animal, specifically a large one, a moose or a bear (if thats legal)

>>32104819
that requires a hunting license which varies between provinces. unless you know someone who has one and will take you with them.

>>32104819

I'm not really that knowledgeable about hunting laws other than they are provincial and things like .223 aren't allowed for deer in Ontario, sorry. Hopefully someone can fill you in.

>>32104684
Honestly I think it has less to do with outright politics, and just that the fact that most big name conservative comedians kinda suck. Larry the Cable Guy is conservative but funny, and that's because he doesn't have a stale bit about Al Gore and global warming in the middle of his routine like the last Dennis Miller comedy special I watched.

And you're right about the rock music thing too, bullshit comes from both sides and we should all be wary of it, it's not left or right that's the problem, it's the extremes of either end. Usually with liberals I just focus on the gun issue because I feel that's the most pressing thing I need to convince them on.

And Canadian voters are a lot more malleable than people often assume. Half the reason we traded a Tory majority to the Grits is because people were sick of Harper, and not so much a love of what Trudeau was selling (and people are taking note of the things he's going back on as well).

>>32104836
is it possible to get a permit as a non-canadian?

>>32104840
Thanks anyway

>>32104858
I don't think trudeau has the self awareness to realize he won because of the anyone-but-harper vote

>>32104867
>is it possible to get a permit as a non-canadian?
Yeah, but you have to do the safety course still, meaning you have to come up to do the course, apply for the license, then return to go shooting.

>>32104870
kek

well said

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>>32104816
Couldn't get the same angle but I'd be starting at the end of Dorothy Drive.

>>32104867
Yeah there is a fairly large hunting tourist industry in canada, expect to pay out the ass though (thousands upon thousands, depending on what you want to hunt)

for a moose or bear expect to pay at least $3000

it varies by province

>>32104867
probably. but who's gun would you hunt with? if you don't know anyone, then you'd need your own, meaning you'd need at least a PAL license.

hunting isn't a very accessible thing if you just want to try it out over the span of a few weeks vacation. it's something you commit to because of the cost/hassle/expertise required.

>>32104884
Id be hesitant. People would hear it and it doeant take much for someone to call the cops on you. If you live local and know neighbors maybe, but id be hesitant

>>32104879
>>32104896
there are hunting guides who take care of all that for you, but like i said it's going to be very expensive

if you want to do it all yourself, expect it to still cost thousands, and you'll likely have to visit once to do your hunting/gun course then again months later once you have all your credentials

if you aren't pretty damn rich it's not going to happen

>>32104879
>>32104891
>>32104896
So i have a safety course a PAL and then money on top of that?

>>32104950
and potentially winning a raffle for the tag of animal you want to hunt

some provinces have more abundant populations than others

>>32104910
Dont have thousands to spend like that

>>32104970
how often are these raffles then?

>>32104950
PAL license process takes 2-3 months, don't know about hunting license.

bro I know it would be sweet to take a selfie with a dead grizzly to show off to your m8s back home but this isn't gonna happen

>>32104907
Yeah, well I know for sure no residents live across the lake area and it's a really low population place with a lot of trees. I think If I go in far enough I could find a decent well isolated area.

>>32104993
Anything is possible lad, just depends how possible and when...
How about a black bear?

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>>32105001
This is where i go for bush shooting. Were that right road hits the right of way for the lines is where i park.

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>>32104907
For reference, here's a view from the other side of the lake. The entire road is undeveloped with no residents.

>>32104759
>I only watch fox news
The shows you listed can be hit or miss, but are you sure it's not that they have a tendency to poke holes in the arguments used by conservative politicians? Also, how do you feel about how critical Fox news was/is of Trump, I suppose it's evidence that they're now under the control of the establishment?

>teams of writers working for them
Use some of the logic and reason I always hear about, stand-up comedians don't do a different routine every 2nd night, on average, like those shows. They need a team of writers otherwise things wouldn't last a week.

>which rights?
>hurr durr, if you can't list literally dozens then I win, cause I'm a fucking troll
The most important one is a right to privacy, though I wouldn't be surprised if the Liberals were still violating that like there Tories were when they were spying on us. Illegally spying on a citizen in the US is just a fucking crime, and negates the use in a court of law any evidence gained from said spying. In Canada, we wrote it into the fucking charter of rights and freedoms. You should read it some time, you'll see some of those other rights I mentioned.

Also, what am I reading?
>"Halifax is isolated from the rest of Canada"
>there's no black people living in the North End
>no natives on their reservations
>there's no immigrants from anywhere at all, despite all kinds of Lebanese who came in the 70's and 80's
>as well as Syrians more recently
>and nevermind that 10% of the city population are students for the major universities, so every few years tens of thousands of people are replaced
>nevermind that the major gangs are white because only minorities cause crimes
>inb4 that's true, but <insert minority here> is worse!
Now you can squat out some more BS if you want but I have to finish making supper.

>>32104990
>how often are these raffles then?
every hunting season (fall/winter)

>Dont have thousands to spend like that
it's a rich mans game anon, maybe look into hunting in svalbard, norway, sweden, finland?

>>32105061
not the guy you're replying to but one thing i will agree with you on is we generally do have stronger privacy laws

>they have a tendency to poke holes in the arguments used by conservative politicians?
usually it's really stupid low hanging fruit or outright false

and i don't know why you're assuming we love politicians of any inclination

i think like most people, the people here generally regard politicians with disdain

>>32105061
>The most important one is a right to privacy
... He says to gun owners who have no fucking right to privacy.

>charter of rights and freedoms
Not worth what it's written on because of the notwithstanding clause.

>>32105186
Id just rather be in a non-foreign country where everybody speaks the same language so i can have some good banter

>>32105348
>Brit doesn't see Canada as a foreign country

Seriously?

>>32105348
everyone speaks English near perfectly in the Scandi countries i thought?

>>32105402
Yeah, why do you want to be foreign?You are our colonial cousins, not foreigners.

(You are also not legally a *foreign* country in the eyes of the govenment, but a commonwealth one.)

>>32105490
Not everyone, in fact when i went to iceland few people did
they also are a bit autistic

So I tried to test my totally legal gun that I built out of pipes and the nail hits the primer but doesn't set it off, just made a hole in it and the mercury fulminate or whatever the fuck they use in primer spills out if I tip the primer over. I removed all the gun powder of course so it's just the rear end of a shell I'm trying to use to test with. Do I need to blunt the end of the nail?

>>32105728
Just the brit asking about hunting but possibly, normal firing pins arent sharp. Could also be a faulty cartridge?

>>32104592
Moving of goalpost.

We have it. Your statement was wrong. We need property rights.

>>32105566
iceland is known for being xenophobic and hating foreigners, so that doesn't surprise me

as far as i know sweden/finland nearly all speak english perfect and norway is like 50%+

>>32105838
more like propooty rights am i right?

lol

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Can anybody tell me what this weird pitting is on the end of my AR15 locking lugs in the barrel? It doesn't seem to affect the guns ability to chamber/cycle or anything, but I'm just wondering what it is. It's kind of the same color as the brass from a cartridge.

>>32105970
Again, not an expert but it looks like corrosiaon

>>32105970
looks like some gunk shit stuck to me

did you try getting in there with a bronze tooth brush?

>>32106044
Don't have a bronze tooth brush. Regardless, did try to scrape it out with what I have, and it's definitely not gunk.

>>32106085
thats because its probably corrosion

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>>32106107
Yup. That's what it looks like. Fucking awesome

>>32106197
Well you can still use it, probably better clean it more and change your bullets to stop it getting worse.
Could try and put a drop of weld in if it bothers you then grind it to shape? Not sure if that would work.

>>32106240
Oh, I should have mentioned, I got the upper in a trade. I had one of the M16A1 style DA556 uppers before, wasn't really a fan, and traded a guy on the canadian gun nuts equipment exchange for his M4 style upper. Lets just say it wasn't exactly as advertised, he included a magpul pts handguard, which seems sturdy enough for the plinking I do with my AR, and he included some kind of muzzle break that I don't know the origin of, which he claimed to be a Jerry Miculek muzzle break, but it's clearly not.

I mean, as long as the corrosion doesn't spread and the gun functions and fires fine, I'll be happy, and I could always have the barrel replaced at some point. I'm gonna drag it to the range shortly and put a few rounds through it.

>>32106197
wow that's some very deep corrosion, you can really see in the second pic

some chink shit ends up being fine but it sure is a gamble

i bought an m305 and decided to never buy chink shit again

>>32105728
Your firing pin is too long

>>32106300
Like I said above, as long as it functions and fires properly I'll be happy. I'm a cheap bastard and understand the risks of buying Chinese guns. If it turns out to be an issue, AR barrels aren't difficult to replace, I've heard the NEA barrels are supposed to be pretty good.

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>>32106320
why does length matter?

>>32106355
So you don't peirce the primer is this your first time making guns?

>>32106380
y-yes

>>32106380
Out of interest how buttfucked would he get if he were to be caught?

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>>32093287
>puts a 7.62x39 VZ mag into a .308 Valmet
only Drafter is officially blind on this board!
I will not put up with this shit from you, digfag!

>>32106320
too long and probably too sharp as well

>>32106406
I have my PAL but it's suspended or some shit atm, kinda in limbo. Don't tell people you want to shoot yourself FYI

>>32106417
who snitched?

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>>32106405
Its not hard to turn 1 1/2" steel pipe and 135mm of 38mm dia. bar stock into shit. Or 35x15mm steel box tube into mags. You can easily make a luty or something with meter long mags that hold 175 rounds, you can even scale shit up to 50cal, Brazilians do it
>>32106414
Thats an ak mag

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>>32106478
Myself

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>>32106496
have a robin to cheer yourself friend, they are my favourite birds.

>>32106486
I would try it but for the mandatory 5 year prison sentence if i were to be caught. Saw an infographic on here a while ago but lost it.

>>32106486
>Thats an ak mag
and? it's still a wrong caliber mag in the wrong gun.
btw, why do you have an ak mag? did you buy one just to take that picture and get caught by Anon?

why don't you stop being a poser and actually pony up some dosh and convert that shit to motherland glorious 7.62x39

>>32104248
you can call in and change the address anytime. they just want to know where the restricteds are

>>32104463
anywhere at all if it's necessary to protect life

>tfw don't have half my tools with me and no where good to work on this thing
reeee

>>32106519
I was going to convert it but getting a barrel made is retardedly expensive, 800 off the bat for just the service of making a barrel, then extra for everything else +labour which is like 85 an hr. Only alternative is a chamber adapter and mag well spacer but the chamber adapters dont work in gas operated guns, itd have to be permanent and i was to avoid fucking up the original parts

>Range is only 10 minutes away
>But it only allows .22 rifles and handguns
>And is only open two days/week
Help

>>32104504
Where i live, our range is unsupervised. 500m rifle range, trap/skeet range, and a few smaller ones for semi-auto rifles and handguns. Pretty cool range, only 100 bucks for the year and i have my own key and everything. Allowed to be at the range anytime 9-dusk

>>32106606
sucks, but at least you still have an AK, that was probably expensive and a pain in the ass enough
I'm only kidding with the attacks
>the mag in Valmet picture just triggered autism and jealousy all at once

>>32090706
I was charged with unsafe storage once and went through the same thing, lawyer was 5k and the crown dropped all charges because no crime had been committed. They do not know the laws they are attempting to enforce.

>>32106645
>9-dusk
>dusk
kinda shitty during the winter though

>>32091317
Standard price for 1200 at wholesale sports is 299$

>>32106659
The range is up in the mountains, so during winter its a little bit of a shitstorm to get there unless the roads are good. And when theres no one else there but you, 9-dusk is a long time

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>>32106615
>Range is only 2 hours drive away
>On top of fuel costs and range fee, it will soon require $4 dollar toll on the highway just to leave the city and get back
>You can't stand or prone or kneel shoot, only fuddbech, no "rapid fire" (aka, 3 second spacing minimum between shots or gtfo).
get on my level of suffering, chump

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>>32106615
>ranges

>>32106645
sounds gr8

nothing like that out here

i have membership to a 30 meter indoor range and it's $400 a year (i got it for $300 for 15 months as an early bird)

theres one other ok outdoor range but it's crowded as fuck and target changes are retarded long, and the ROs are constantly badgering you about minor things like not putting your safety on after clearing and leaving a gun on the bench with its action open pointing down range

the other ranges are usualyl shotgun/handgun only and have a myriad of bizarre rules

Probably a dumb question, but I'm contemplating an SKS because dat cheap ammo. Is it easy to remove the cosmoline? I'm not really much of a handyman, but I keep hearing about how you need an air compressor and chemicals or some shit if you want to clean it properly. And is it easy enough to clean after shooting corrosive? I keep hearing mixed answers, some say you should soak all metal parts in hot water to dissolve the salts, some say you just need to run some hot water down the barrel and clean off the gas piston.

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>>32106615
>>32106695
Underground ranges are okay

>>32106705
I'm pretty fortunate desu. I've been to Poco range (port coquitlam) and DVC (indoor handgun/ar range) and they were okay. Poco is crowded as fuck, and DVC has terrible wait times.

Ive been delt a good hand with this range. I love how i can spend an entire day shooting and never see another person. Weekdays is best for that

>>32106720
any updates on that? pictures of moleman catacombs?

>>32106615
>Range is only 15 minutes away
>Allows everything, excluding .50
>They give you a key so you can access it whenever you want
>Can only shoot until dusk or 8 PM, whichever comes first
>tfw "Dusk" is now roughly 3:30 PM because daylight "savings"

>>32106734
>poco range
poco range is pretty shit lad, too crowded and target change times are terrible, and some of the ROs are annoying and all their procedures take way too fucking long

dvc is ok, but like you said

>i've been delt a good hand with this range
what the fug where is this? i'm in lower mainland too

not that i expect you to give this away...

>>32106743
Just shoot at night in the bush but shoot lots so it doesnt sound like your poaching

Seeing as people are talking about ones near vancouver. Has anyone had any experience with the semiahmoo range?
>>32106615

>>32106749
Depends desu, where abouts you live? It would be a good 3-4 hour drive for you if your in GVA. I moved from Poco back to my humble little town about 7 months ago

>>32106784
ah ok, yeah that's way too far

i live in surrey

>>32106791
Thats unfortunate, always looking for a range buddy. Especially if they have handguns. Swear to god im the only one in this town with one, Everyone else just has their fudd guns.

>>32106834
i have a few

i've wanted to arrange a bc meet up even just a small one for a while but haven't had enough feedback so far

i have a lot of shooting buddies so it's not a huge deal to me but i know there's a lot of lonely guys out there, but i haven't got any e-mails back about it the couple times i posted

>>32106657
>unsafe storage
context?

>>32106657
im about to order a safe just so i know im in the clear should something like this ever happen

you the guy who got rolled on because they mistook you for a neighbor or whatever?

>>32106717
it's pretty easy. mineral spirits (paint thinner?) for the metal parts, and let just sunlight for the wood stock + gas tube handguard part. not sure how efficiently sunlight would melt cosmoline in the winter though.. I did it when it was 40c outside.

easy to clean after corrosive. boil water in a kettle and pour down the barrel, down the gas tube, bit on the gas port and gas piston. then clean with standard stuff, ex. G96, any CLP, etc.

really a retard friendly gun, I recommend it as a first buy to everyone instead of the .22 meme.

>>32106717
most of the time the sks are already cleaned up

this is an america meme

usually all you have to do is wipe the parts off a little bit and clean the bore

>>32106887
>>32106909
There was a 911 call made from my landline from a friend who saw his sister fighting in the street in front of my house.
Pigs came, force me and buddy outside while they check the house for people, as the street fighters were long gone
My stack on safe has the key in it, they unlock and open it up
Tacticool sks, with two 30 rounders taped together in it. Dominion arms outlaw
Gets reported in the paper as an ak47 and a sawed off and thousands of rounds of ammo
Take my butterfly knives, mags had the pins out of the, so they are gone for good too.
Had some crums of hash in a jar, less than a gram
Report says 4.5 grams weed Ina jar.
Got all my guns back got the empty jar back
Whole thing took about 8 months, probably could have done it without the lawyer, but didn't wanna risk it. There was unsafe storage x5, prohibited device x4

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>>32106976
what an outstanding sequence of events and exponential fuck ups

you got off lightly for how retarded you are

>>32107017

Ask yourself how many victims there were because of his actions.

>>32105970
>>32106197
I messaged the guy I bought it from on CGN and he replied, said he wasn't aware of whatever that corrosion is, and is willing to trade me back for my old upper.

I'm sort of on the fence about it, because on the one hand I really do want an M4 style AR15, and I was lucky enough to find a guy willing to trade his upper for what I had, but on the other hand I would prefer one that doesn't have bizarre corrosion.

>>32107017
Ya this was many years ago, cleaned up how I do things completely now.
No Indians allowed in my home, no exemptions. Cancelled my landline so no more 911 calls.

>>32107052
only his wallet. I'm all for non compliance with these sort of laws you don't agree with, but rule number one is don't get caught. even if your house is searched, why the fuck would you keep your 'prohibited devices' with your compliant stuff? why would you have hash out in the open? why let a """"friend"""" call from your land line? why call in the first place, should have just grabbed unloaded sks, brandished, and scared off the faggots.

>>32107060
they take away your license or what?

>>32107059
I wouldn't worry about it, if you are happy with the trade. A complete da556 is only 600$, i have one and its shit, but many others love theirs

>>32107127

If it wasn't on the fucking locking lugs, maybe. If those fail, you're up shit creek.

>>32107118
No they never took it away from me. I was worried that I would get a weapons prohibition, but as has been said over and over by others in this thread, the process was the punishment. And the lost mags and knives.

>>32107127
>>32107134
Yeah, it being on the barrel extension is kinda concerning. I might just do the trade back.

>>32107145
Mine feeds like shit, with any mag, if yours feeds good keep it.

>>32106743
Courtenay?

Bump limit reached.

New thread: >>32107579

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>the primer still wont go off
REEEEEEEEEE
i suck at this

>>32094677

I know a lot of old fudds, and only 1 of them would shoot an animal passed 200 meters. They all sight their guns in on a concrete bench with a gun vise and still get 4 inch groups at 100m. Its you the passionate shooters you have to look out for, and they dont usually show their power levels.

>>32106857
Post about it again I'd be down as long as your not autistic irl

>>32105970
I wouldn't worry about it. It shouldn't affect feeding too much for .223 because it's so blunt. IVI 5.56 is way pointier and might hang up on those spots