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Canada General CNC edition

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Read this if you want to get a firearm license: http://pastebin.com/jkGPzQCc

Previous thread: >>32016238
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First for expensive hobby
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Second for constant fear mongering rumours.
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Third for the "need" argument
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>>32045696
The need argument could get us suppressors. Worked for the UK.
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Is it true that Canadians like to eat beaver assholes?
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>>32045793
Tell a native they have alcohol content in them and they'll eat them.
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Got PAL recently. My first buy.. have a good reference and don't stress if they take longer than expected to mail your card. It will come in due time.
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>>32045907
I have a Mossberg 500 FLEX with similar sights/rail setup (well, when I put them on it). If you're like me, you may want a small cheek riser/padding on the stock. I found it helped me align with the sights a bit better (the stock was set up more to align with a lower height bead).
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>>32045948
I was thinking that. Looking for a new stock with adjustable cheek risers just not sure who to go with. Knoxx has a few and ATI as well
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Is it worth the trouble buying a restricted firearm?
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>>32046367
Have you tried a handgun before? Before I had tried one I didn't think it was, after trying them I really enjoy them now and want one for myself.
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>>32045948
>Mossberg 500 FLEX
The FLEX platform was an interesting concept, but it was terribly executed.

I like the idea of being able to swap out parts in just seconds. I also wish the parts were easy to find.

Even if the parts are easy enough to find, the total cost makes the FLEX platform impractical. Yes, you can convert a long hunting shotgun into a smaller tactical shotgun. The FLEX platform turns this minutes-long process into a handful of seconds. But once you factor in the cost of the accessories, which include the forends, the stocks/pistol grips, and the barrels, the amount you'll be spending will be very close to that of a whole new shotgun.

And you know what's quicker than swapping out a few FLEX parts? Just grabbing a different shotgun. The biggest disadvantage to this is that it takes up more space, but who the hell ever complained about owning too many guns (except liberals)?

tl;dr I'm a FLEX owner too, and I'm slightly annoyed by the fact that I fell for the concept.
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>>32046367
I've been wondering this as well. As much as I want an AR-15 it just drives me nuts knowing I have to deal with the ATT, being only able to take it to a shooting range and the magazine cap of 5.

In a way I still think I'd like to own it for a real shit hits the fan scenario, but in the back of my mind it's just a terrible reason to own one for the near future. I have the money I just hate the extra bullshit that comes tied with restricted.
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>>32048585
>complying

When was the last time you got pulled over by the cops?
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>>32048591
Once in high school for having too many people in a car. I guess I shouldn't worry as much, just fuck me the penalties for this shit is pretty high if you ever did get caught not complying. Like isn't it up to 14 years or some shit?
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Looking to buy first AR. Budget around $2500. POU: 3 gun, range, HD, SHTF.

In the running:
COLT CANADA MRR 11.6"
FN FN15 DMR 18"
FN FN15 Tactical 16"

Not looking to build my own, but having the flexibility of non proprietary parts has me leaning to FN.

Suggestions?
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>>32049260
I'm really wanting to get this one eventually.

https://www.canadaammo.com/product/detail/nea15-5-56x45-nato-18-dmr/

Made in Canada, lifetime warranty on the barrel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyoQKoNwdPg

Seems like a really solid choice overall.
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It's beginning folks, Polytech anniversary must be getting close again.
http://startouch.thestar.com/screens/5eff2ece-d509-4790-acc9-fc2b4dc4a6d5%7C_0.html
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>>32049260
nigga for 2500 dollars I'd be buying a daniel defense rifle over the CC and mediocre FN rifles at their price range.
or shit build your own
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Hey /k/ so I'm torn between two different guns to buy atm a sks-kd (sks made to take ak mags by Kodiak defense) for 525$ or a type 97 rifle for 800-1000$ anything better I should be looking at?
>Inb4 muh ar muh ak I'm Canadian.
I also already own a normal sks
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>>32049492
I flagged one guy with the cfc buying handguns when i was selling them.

His last address was 4 hours out of town and he bought 5 in 3 days. Looked really run down and bought 2 of the same gun.
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>>32049600
Youre in a canada thread so we assume you to be canadian anyway.

Buy the vz58. Aka save a bit more
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>>32049492
Its not our fault the cfo and rcmp arent doing their job when issuing restricted licenses, when i got mine non of my references were interviewed and when i called in asked about it and insisted i wanted an interview i was told its not necessary, i doubt they even looked into my background i could be a crazed serial rapist human/drug/gun/exotic animals trafficker sitting on kilos of illegal ivory and uzis and they would never know cause they rarely investigate shit
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>>32049638
Yeah. I actually got both my references and my ex-gf called when I got my license issued about 2 years ago, but it was an RPAL in Quebec. It was also issued within 5 weeks of them receiving it.
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>>32045364
>using that pic to make the Canada General thread
fuck you
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>>32049693
>not hating Trudeau

Why are you here?
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Well lads I'm going for my non-restricted CFSC starting Monday. I've done a fair amount of research on here and else where, but I was wondering if you guys have any other tips or advice I should know?

I guess the advice I'm looking for are things like, is their anything outside of what I'll learn at the CFSC that would be good to know before the test/exam?
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>>32049722
Just relax, it's actually a fun course where you get to fingerfuck all sorts of guns and if you have a good instructor he'll teach you interesting tidbits of firearm and military history.

Just don't do anything that will insta-fail you like muzzle sweeping the instructor.
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>>32049722
You'll be fine if you aren't mentally incompetent. Given you actually know how to use grammar, you'll pass easily. Just don't ever point the practice guns at anyone.
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>>32049554
skele, what optic would you throw on a dd mk18?

is the elcan specdr a meme or what
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>>32049492

So fucking transparent.
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>>32049881
>is the elcan specdr a meme or what
yes, owned two of them, still hate them.
buy a ACOG or a aimpoint t1.
unless you go with a MK18 MOD0 then get a Comp M3 or something
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>>32049629
Yea no ide why I put that, I having trouble finding them online for less then 1400-1500$
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I'm gonna do a meet thread an a couple hours, unless you guys want to simply discuss it here. We HAVE to nail down a date.

Also gonna go snag a sling for pic related today.
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>>32049944
>owned two of them, still hate them.
what's actually wrong with them?

I've seen that webm where the optic appears loose on its mount but that in itself is a meme now and I've never found out of it was a knock off, broken, corrected defect, etc.
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>>32050155
>I've seen that webm where the optic appears loose on its mount
>appears
it's literally loose though, its retained by a spring, which is it's design because it has external adjustments. which means its zero is affected externally by the elements.

as for what else is wrong with it is it's heavy, its mounting system is dated, they're overpriced for what you get, the whole 1x idea is pretty MEME in itself as you'll basically be on 4x most of the time anyways and a offset red dot is always faster. eye relief is short, meaning you'll either have to take off your rear sight or always run your stock in the closed or position 1 for full eye relief.
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>>32050060
Jusy discuss it here so the americants dont sperg out
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>>32050060
Just make it Dec. 27th to 29th. I won't have tannerite but ill bring my expertise in setting it off remotely without shooting. Ill bring 5 containers that hold 5lbs each
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>>32050280
Whoever gets tannerite HAS to make sure its Thundershot though, all other brands are lower quality and dont produce the same size boom, tannerite brand tannerite and ka boom being the worst
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>>32050270
I don't see why they'd sperg.

If you guys'd rather discuss it here, then that's fine. I need to know what date works best, to start. I was thinking New Years, but I'd rather do it when we can have the maximum amount of people.
It'd also be nice to know how many are actually going to go.
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>>32050363
I'm pretty flexible but I'd like to see Maga and TL be able to make it up though.
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>>32049638
I'd gladly accept the risk of a few outlier criminals than have the gubmint implement a registry.
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>>32048585
>5
Can't you buy LAR 15 mags, technically handgun mags, and have 10?
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>>32048585
>>32050586
or those .50 beowulf mags that can fit 14-15

admittedly the biggest problem is not being able to take them innawoods. hoping type 81 shit gets sorted out soon and they turn out to be decent because they'd be tremendous innawoods.
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>>32050815
The importation just got delayed because Norinco got a big military order and wanted to finish that before they finished the civilian order. They should arrive within a couple months, there are no legal issues with them.
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>>32046852
Yeah, it could have been done better. The only real accessory I bought was a second forend, and put a flashlight on it. Ended up being a bit handier than the 500 with the integrated light (as I don't need it all the time, just when I want to be tacticool), and the flashlight I got was better than the integrated one. Only cost a bit more.

What I'm looking forward to is better distribution for the Ithaca M37. Wouldn't mind having a nice one set up like an old police shotgun with a wood stock.
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>>32050832
Is the Type 81 a good rifle though?
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>>32051084
If its just a modified sks it should be fine
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>>32051084
if it's the same factory and machines that take china's military orders, then QC should be better than traditional chinkshit like norinco.
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>>32049722
It's stupidly easy. Just pay attention and get as much time on practice firearms as you can.
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>>32051084
Assuming it's everything the rumours from the Chinese army say it is, it's a rifle on par or possibly even better than, the SKS and VZ58. It has all the features of the VZ58, plus has some modifications borrowed from their T56 AK models. Again there is some assumptions, but it should at the very least rival the VZ58.
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What's a good cheapish (sub $1000) semi auto pistol? Looking to get my first restricted.
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>>32051457
Pretty much any Norinco handgun, if you don't mind doing some touch ups.
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>>32051482
What kind of touch ups we talking about here?
I am a bit lazy
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>>32050815
>.50 beowulf mag

Aren't these declared "prohibited" by the RCMP but not the actual Firearms Act? I can't seem to find a clear answer online because that's pretty much the #1 reason I would consider getting an AR in the future.

It still sucks but at least 10 or 15 rounds would make it nicer to use.
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>>32051503
If you want to be active about it, then mostly just polishing contact points, if you are lazy but can spend, you can have a smith do it for you, otherwise it'll smooth out eventually over time. Also the base models are alright, but you can still fit aftermarket parts to make them better, particularly the M1911 model since those have tons of aftermarket.
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>>32051527
it declared so by some internal RCMP memo. nothing with any actual legal standing. hence they are still sold.
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So, it's been more than 45 days now and I still haven't heard shit from Mirimachi. Call them Monday, yes/no?
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>>32051538
Polishing contact points doesn't sounds like that much of a pain, I'll look into Norinco stuff, thanks.
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>>32051670
You should've been calling 1-2 times a week from day 21.
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>>32051713
Does that actually help, or just piss them off?
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>>32051759
If you're polite it speeds things up, since they'll open up your app and do a couple lines of work. If you're a twat when you call them, then they'll make it take longer. Just have some basic manners, and ask about the progress of the application.
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>>32051818
> literally my modus operandi for der gubmint

I'll do that first thing Monday then.
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>>32051696
If you fuck up your sear youll have a bad time.
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>>32051696
You'll definitely want to look up tutorials online first, since, as the other guy mentioned, it's possible to cause issues if you do something wrong. The other option is to just drop in a higher quality trigger.
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So i passed my hunters safety in 2009 and got my card but i never actually applied for my pal lisense. Can i still use that card as proof of me passing to get my pal or do i have to take it again?
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>>32050280
Does this work for people? 27th to 29th?
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In Toronto, and I know there are going to be some deals at Al Flaherty's come Black Friday. Looking to get my first shotgun and first rifle to hunt with - benelli supernova for the shotgun, and what for the rifle? I can do $1500 for the rifle, glass included and don't want to spend more than $800 on the shotgun.
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>>32052778
As of 2015, all new PAL applicants are required to take the actual CFSC (Canadian Firearms Safety Course).

No challenges, no substitutions, no exceptions.
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>>32053770
Al Flaherty's has a Tikka T3 Battue for 1100:
http://www.alflahertys.com/collections/firearms/products/tikka-rifle-t3x-battue-lite
That gives you some backup iron sights, or just irons if you want the challenge. Otherwise, the other T3Xs are a bit cheaper.

Alternatively, get a Savage and save some money.
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>>32053985
Is that worthwhile? Best you can get for that price?
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>>32054013
For around $1000, your main options are the Tikka T3X, the Winchester Model 70 (if you can find one), the Weatherby Vanguard, the Browning X-Bolt, the CZ 550... frankly they are all pretty good. I think it would depend on personal preference more than anything else, but any of them would be fine.

For a fair bit cheaper there's the Ruger American and the Savage Axis.
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>>32054060
Is the Winchester 70 you're talking about?
http://www.cabelas.ca/product/29391/winchester-model-70-featherweight-bolt-action-rifle
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>>32053966
Damn. Is it the same course material? I still have the old booklet. My buddy wants ti get his pal as well would it be good for us to do it together?
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>>32054240
I cannot tell you if the CFSC contains the same/similar materials as your hunting course from 2009.

For one thing, the CFSC is a federally regulated course, while most hunting courses vary by province.

However, provided that my knowledge isn't obsolete, the CFSC's own materials haven't changed since 2008.

Bottom line is, the course is not difficult as long as you're not a dumbass. I recommend you guys take the course together. It doesn't help or hurt to do it together, but two new PAL holders are better than one.
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>>32054282
Oh im not looking for a restricted liscense. Just a regular pal.
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>>32054240
it's easy and you don't necessarily have to study ahead of time, because the course lasts so long and some instructor's will literally go over everything. it's more fun and goes by faster if you do it with friends.

he's the most recent cfsc/crfsc books I think.
http://publications.gc.ca/collections/collection_2015/grc-rcmp/PS99-2-2-1-2014-eng.pdf

>>32054292
>im not looking for a restricted liscense.
literally everyone regrets this after a few months.
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>>32054292
Nigger I didn't say anything about a restricted license.

The CFSC is mandatory to obtain your PAL.

If you did want a restricted license, you would also take the C-R-FSC, you homo.
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>>32046496
>>32046367

I actually prefer shooting my rifles, but I'm still glad I got a pistol. The more normalfag restricted owners are, the harder it is for the government to fuck us.
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>>32054352
Boy id slap your ass if i could. My bad i didnt read your text right. Yeah i guess ill have to look into getting that sorted out then.
And dont call me nigger, my ancestors have done a damn good job of keeping my gene pool clean to get that kind of talk ya tomahawk kike.
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>>32054547
With your lack of attention, and typing that atrocious, it looks like your ancestors missed a spot.
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>>32051457

Look at used stuff on CGN or your local store. I got my Beretta 92FS for $600.
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>>32051527

Some dude on CGN is apparently being charged with prohib devices.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1466134-Precedent-on-50-beo-mags-Charged-with-possession-of-prohib-device-x2
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>>32054588
Well I am Ukrainian so maybe you're right.
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>>32054651
Blyat, get out of my kitchen, this Boris house.
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>>32054666
Ayy a Boris boy. Blin
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>>32054235
Yes- they were out of stock and hard to find for a while. Good to see them coming back.
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>owned guns for a year but haven't shot a single round because living in Toronto with no car

This hobby was a mistake.
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>>32054885
living in toronto was a mistake
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>>32054960
Anime is a mistake.
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>>32054885
>This hobby was a mistake.
tell me about it.

6 months of having my license, I've spent $6k+ on guns and only went shooting once, with my sks. can't shoot the restricteds anywhere because every range wants membership for that, which I don't feel like paying for yet. Meanwhile I'll continue to buy guns I don't shoot >mfw
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>>32055038
Liberals were a mistake
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>>32055038
>Not watching anime
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>>32045907
>Blackwater logo
Why
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>>32049698
No I hate the "It's a Fucking Leaf!" bullshit, especially since the people who shout it claim to love history and tradition, but are blatantly ignoring the history and tradition around the maple leaf flag. They'd call me a "cuck" I'm sure, but they're the ones who'd like to go back to a flag, that has someone else's flag on it... (joking on that last part).

Also suck my dick, this is Canada general, not some fucking hugbox where you can claim people don't have the right to be here just because they don't vote for your preferred party. That shit wasn't even cool when the Americans were doing it during the election, and it sure as shit ain't cool here, considering this has always been one of the havens where people could disagree and debate peacefully, for the most part.
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>>32055292
Yeah, im a tory and even this shit gets a little old.

I prefer the moose with sks's in the backround to this meme.
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>>32055207

>not blasting hajis for fun and profit
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>>32055156
>not wearing kevlar, earpro, eyepro, or helmets

Those chicks are going to be merc-ed and raped. In that order.
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>>32055292
>this is Canada general, not some fucking hugbox
you make the right point but for the wrong reason. we're here to talk about guns. Trudeau & Co. would confiscate our guns and criminalise our hobby if they could. If you're naive to the point of not believing that, I'd say even the other anti gun policies that they will pursue like UN serial numbers and repealing c42 are absolute shit policies that are more than enough of a reason to be anti Liberal here. quit being a sensitive faggot and use some common sense.
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>>32049693
>>32049698
>>32055292
>>32055320
>>32055508


OP here.

Chill a minute, guys.

>No I hate the "It's a Fucking Leaf!" bullshit, especially since the people who shout it claim to love history and tradition, but are blatantly ignoring the history and tradition around the maple leaf flag. They'd call me a "cuck" I'm sure, but they're the ones who'd like to go back to a flag, that has someone else's flag on it... (joking on that last part).

I do think the flag is well designed (not overly busy, recognizable, etc), though it fails to represent the country as a whole, since maple trees aren't even a thing in the west (And this comes from a Quebecer living in Ontario whose family coat of arms has a fucking tree on it).

Most of the time "a fucking leaf" gets posted on this site is because of overly PC bullshit. Considering we're approaching the 27th anniversary of Canadian anti-gun Christmas where a fucking Muslim murdered people for being women, it seemed appropriate.

Not everyone is a single-issue voter, but firearm rights shouldn't be an issue to begin with.
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>>32055538
>Chill a minute, guys.
no, fuck you buddy. keep posting that image. there's no fucking reason for anyone to be seriously upset over it or for you to give a shit.
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>>32055576
>Tell people to calm down and explain that there's no reason to get pissed about the pic
>Get told to fuck off because no one should get pissed about the pic

:|
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>>32055320
I always liked that one too (anyone know if they sell flags of it?), I can understand changing it since the same picture all the time will get a bit stale, but we shouldn't be using something that's insulting to Canada, and I'd like to smack the little edge-case who always fucking posts it.

(As an aside it's bullshit that all the general threads are basically trying to be turbo-edgy all the time. I haven't noticed lately but there was a good solid month where every /meg/ thread had racist crap for the OP picture, including old photos of lynchings a few times.)

I blame the obsession with memes in general, which sadly isn't going away anytime soon.
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>>32055508
>tells me to use common sense
>when I'm blatantly assuming things without any proof for them going to happen
I'm happy to discuss guns here, but then you post stupid shit like that. It's not the American election, you're not a Trump voter. You don't get to spout bullshit and call me a CTR shill when I point our you're saying something incorrect, or are just fearmongering with no actual basis for concern.

>>32055538
And I see your point about how the maple leaf doesn't represent all of Canada (they do grow in BC though, but yeah the Prairies are pretty empty).

And I agree on the subject of firearms rights, I'm not idle when it comes to trying to get my fellow liberals (small L) on board with it either. Which is why I and folks like me don't appreciate the insults and other language that gets thrown our way. More divisiveness: ala the whole "all liberals hate us and want to take our guns away!" rhetoric isn't helping us as a community or country.

And as a general statement on the subject of PC bullshit, I get just as annoyed with the PC crap as a lot of conservatives, in fact a lot of liberals do. But the way people sometimes behave in reaction, trying to be as un-PC as possible, is just as bad if not worse in our eyes.
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>>32055814
>You don't get to spout bullshit and call me a CTR shill
I can say what ever the fuck I want you cuck CTR shill.

I don't care whether you think what I'm saying is fear mongering or any other name you want to police my speech into, I didn't say anything patently false. Trudeau and Liberals have an anti gun stance and here on /k/ - Weapons, in case you've fucking forgotten where you are, I'll post openly and with hostility about any person or group that want to diminish my ability or even inconvenience me in partaking in any gun related activity currently afforded to me as a canadian.
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>>32055156
What gun that rifle?
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>>32056000
Looks like they said "Let's make something like the MP5 but a little different".
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I thought cosco stopped carrying chinese ammo because they go through seattle before vancouver? Where did all this chinese ammo come from?
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>>32055814

I'm not even conservative. I'm a classical liberal (Read: libertarian). Both sides have been fucking the dog for decades. If you're actually against the PC bullshit, then the "A FUCKING LEAF" thing doesn't apply to you.

Tu te sens visé?
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>>32056525
>I'm a classical liberal
*tips fedora*
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>>32056605

I want married gay couples to be able to defend their pot farm using fully automatic firearms. How fucking fedora of me.

Asswipe.
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>>32056625
>I want married gay couples to be able to defend their pot farm using fully automatic firearms.
You want a fucking redditor to be Prime Minister.
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>>32056712
>Being libertarian means I vote for the Libertarian party

If you're the same guy who said "small L liberal" that I was responding to, you can right fuck off.

Actually, you can right fuck off even if you aren't him. Just go read what "small L" means before you fuck off.
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This thread derailed like an Indian train.

Pic related is how i fucked up the hand guard of my 91/30 putting the barrel bands on upside down
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>>32056817
>This thread derailed like an Indian train.
Would you say that it turned to shit?
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>>32055814
>And as a general statement on the subject of PC bullshit, I get just as annoyed with the PC crap as a lot of conservatives, in fact a lot of liberals do.
[CITATION NEEDED]
>Being against Political Correctness is the exact same thing as supporting political Correctness

DUDE WEED LMAO
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>>32054060
For a hunting rifle, should I pick the Tikka T3X if I'm left handed? I see barely anything available on Cabelas and Al Flaherty's that's south paw oriented :,(
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https://discord.gg/Uc4fa


join up cucks

real niggaz only
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>>32058349
I got a T3 lh and it's fucking beautiful. Watching my right handed friends try to use it is incredibly satisfying to boot.
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>>32058349
Which is your dominant eye? If it's the left, get a left handed rifle.
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>>32050363
Where's this meet going to take place?
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>>32059485
About an hour west of Edmonton. Very easy to get to, excellent spot. I'm just getting up here, gonna grab a coffee and make a meet thread right away.
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>>32059525
Dang. If I could jump across the country in an instant, I'd be there. I'm out in NL.
Ah well, have fun lads! Take lots of pictures!
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>>32059525
what is the /k/anada discord link?
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>>32058953
Kek. Another lefty with a lefty T3 here and I can confirm. One buddy of mine actually tends to smack his face with his hand while loading.

The loading cycle for my rightside buddies is like
>eh, argh, fuck, *a quick accusatory glance of protesting the inconvenience to my direction*

The shooting cycle is like
>oh, ooo, Ah, hohoho

I've shot right handed actions all my life. A real lefty rifle has been a weird trip, both something new yet so familiar.
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>>32059648
I dunno, I'm not very savvy on that crap. Just contact me via my burner email if you need info on the meet.
[email protected]
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>>32059525
so out by wildwood again?
we aren't going to have to hike again are we?
cause i own 8 guns now and im not hiking 7km with gear 10 different times
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>>32060005
No. It's closer than WW, and you can drive directly to the field.
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>>32056817
>hand guard of my 91/30 putting the barrel bands on upside down

You might try to touch up that by making a mixture of
>95% Boiled lindseed oil
>5% cassel extract (available from paint stores)
>grind and mix the cassel extract first with evaporating turpentine/alcohol so it gets soaked and disperses thoroughly. Then mix it with Boiled linseed oil.

Russian recipe:
>95% Boiled lindseed oil
>5% natural asphalt/bitumen (mineral oil tar)
>dissolve and mix the tar with evaporating solvent first, then mix that with Boiled lindseed oil.

Pic related. Kiväärintukkiöljy (rifle stock oil). There is a commercial product, but apparently nearly impossible to get anymore.
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I'm scared of going to meets because then everyone will see how autistic I am.
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>>32060954
Just do it, everyone here is on 4chan. We all have pretty low standards, you should be fine.
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>>32060954
Honestly I expected the worst and was pleasantly surprised that everyone I've met so far is pretty cool.
Memes once in a while but otherwise everyone else acted like a normie.
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>>32060954
All my friends and coworkers know I'm actually autistic, and say they couldn't tell unless I told them. Hell my friends know I'm a scalie and don't care.

Just bought a truck today so maybe I'll be able to come next year.

Also remember, know matter how fucked up you are, somebody else will always be more fucked up. Most people around you will be just as fucked up, just in different ways.
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>>32060954
There's only two things that are scary outdoors; Sun, and outdoors.

But the people are nice. And that thick food they serve on ceramic plates.
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Is there any candidate in 2020 who will give us CC, repeal magazine restrictions and the arbitrary classification system? No israel-loving cuckservatives from the CPC please.
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>>32058349
I'm left eye dominant, just looking for info on the best hunting rifle for someone who shoots left. I've heard that some actions when mirrored left don't perform as well as they do on the right
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>>32062517
Not looking too great from what I can tell. About all we can count on is more people waking up to a lot of the ideas that Trump has given off. Canadians are definitely very liberal as a whole, but I feel like things are turning and Brexit and Trump are going to have some impact on Canada for sure.

I know Nigel wants to give Brits back their guns so that might shed some light on Canada as well and other Commonwealth countries.

IMO it should be changed so that if you have your license longer, you gain more privileges. No idea why law abiding citizens get fucked over so much. It's been said to death but a fucking criminal will not follow any of our gun laws and surely not the magazine ones.
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>>32062902
Hopefully the future we were expecting can be turned around and this is the first sign. This might be the anti-gunners first bloody cough of a long death.
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Meet thread for any interested anons:
>>32063845
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>>32049554
Shit, for 2500, buy the Modern Varminter, the unrestricted AR15 bastardization.
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>>32058926
Link is expired, it says.
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>>32064488
Modern Varminter is like $3500 minimum with the bare-bones choices.
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Gib Discord link please. Isn't there a chat going on?
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>>32064777
Holy fucking dicknipples

That's literal extortion.
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>>32065083

its the $2000 non-restricted surcharge.
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>>32065083
>>32065106

Also the fact that it's a small company with a small production run, who are only able to sell within the Canadian market. Definitely overpriced for what it is, but I'm willing to be a little more lenient in their case. Now the XCR and ACR on the other hand...
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Did my restricted safety course today, and I already have my non-restricted license. Will I have to wait another 28 days, or will my application be processed and mailed out whenever they get around to it?
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>>32065526
28 days only applies to first-time applicants.

In my opinion, it'll probably take just as long to upgrade to an RPAL. The only difference is that 28 days isn't mandatory. If it takes longer than 28 days, they're just delaying it voluntarily.

And this is why I chose to get both classifications at the same time.
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>>32065742
Alright. Maybe I'll get lucky. It took like 5 weeks to get my PAL, maybe I'll get the RPAL before Christmas.

Or maybe I'll be complaining about it in one of these threads in February, I guess I'll see.
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>>32064488
>>32064777
yeah but then you're buying ATRS products which are less than reliable.
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I'm worried about December 6th.

Is there news of any shit coming down the pipeline
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>>32062902
>royal decree from the Queen declaring that all citizens of the realm have the right to own, possess and carry all manner of small arms
best possible outcome
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>>32066761
Couple articles blaming those shootings in TO on legal gun owners. Apparently a couple people sold handguns to criminals, defeating the epitome of RCMP technology, and of course we need to reprimand all gun owners for this.
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>>32049600
If you want a Type 97, go pick one up in a store or at a range or somewhere first. I think it's a really cool idea, neat rifle, looks cool, but when I picked one up I deduced it was the most uncomfortable rifle I've ever picked up, I have long arms and it was just weird feeling. I really, really wish I liked how they felt, if I did I might have one already.

Those SKS-KD do look pretty fuckin' cool, and if you get one and like it better than your regular SKS you could sell it and have a little money for something else.

>>32054651
Kek'd.

>>32056817
The top of my 91/30's handguard came like that. Not to worry.
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The fact that we cant get swfa scopes coupled with no alternatives makes me sad. All i want is a 10x with reliable turrets and Parallax adjustment
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>>32056795
"Small L" means non-party affiliated liberals in general, dumb ass.

>>32056876
>reading comprehension isn't my strong point!
And that's why noone takes you seriously. It's one thing to be against people using the word nigger, but most of us couldn't give a fuck what the 'proper' pronoun for trannies are any more than you. And yes, it's actually quite easy to support common decency and politeness, without going overboard on things.

>>32062902
>About all we can count on is more people waking up to a lot of the ideas that Trump has given off.
What ideas, seriously? Because I've love to talk shit about them, but so far he hasn't done anything but make vague statements.

>>32066761
>>32066871
No, there isn't, just like every fucking year you bitches whine about it, and then act like you either dodged a bullet, or triumphed in the face of evil librul propaganda, when nothing god damn happens.
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>>32069282
>No, there isn't, just like every fucking year you bitches whine about it
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/11/20/eroded-controls-lead-to-more-guns-on-streets-expert.html
>Inb4 hurr doesn't count
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>>32069282
Draining the swamp
Strengthening domestic manufacturing
Changing the tax laws to close loopholes

And did you support the liberals last election? If so, i hope your dick can get harder than that shitty floppy leader you gave us.
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>>32069282
>"Small L" means non-party affiliated liberals in general, dumb ass.

Now rub those brain cells together and figure out what a small L libertarian means.
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>>32045364
Wow thanks for referring to the last thread, makes me feel special
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>>32069282
>so far he hasn't done anything but make vague statements.

that's all any candidate actually does before they get into office. it's been two weeks and he's already met with several world leaders, something that obongo didn't do until january. his transition team has done more work and selected more positions at this point than previous administrations as well.

but you wouldn't know that, because I'm sure facebook/leddit headlines tell you all you need to know. anyone left of center needs to die desu.
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Any thoughts on this?

www.gunownersofcanada.ca/showthread.php?34854-Lockhart-Tactical-Underbarrel-12G-Shotgun-INFO-RELEASE
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>>32071198
I came
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>>32070511
>buzzwords
>vague and non-specific promise
>shit that's not likely to happen
I'd be willing to believe him on the tax thing if he actually released his returns. But frankly since he bragged repeatedly about taking advantage of those loopholes, I don't think he's going to do anything good. And his stated plans for the tax rates overall aren't very good.

>>32070689
What are you even on about? You ended your last reply with some nonsense rant about "what small L means", like it has some set meaning, so I tried to clarify.

My overall point though, was that this nonsense about "x party is against guns, so you can't say anything in their defence!". Fuck you I can support guns if I fucking want to. Not everyone in the party agrees with the official stance, and not everyone who votes for it agrees with everything on the platform, use a little common sense, or at least stop being a cancerous single-issue voter.

>>32070135
>news articles are proof of a campaign to take our guns
I wouldn't consider the Star a very good source by the way. People are going to talk about gun violence from time to time by the way, that they do is not evidence of a campaign to take our guns.

And maybe I'm just spoiled because the Chronicle Herald is probably the best source of news in Canada.
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>>32071338
>People are going to talk about gun violence from time to time by the way, that they do is not evidence of a campaign to take our guns.
Every single year, in early December and late November, there are renewed calls for gun control from CGC and co. The last few years, Liberals have been condemning the Conservatives for "loosening" the gun control laws in place. This is the first bunch of articles that will come out about how every single gun crime is somehow the fault of legal gun owners and more laws are needed. The Liberals will be far more willing to go along with this than the Conservatives were. Nothing might come of this, but the risk of something happening is actually there this year, moreso than it has been since the Conservatives first took a minority government.
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>month ago
>obsessed with guns
>today
>obsessed with getting a new car, guns are in the rear view mirror

How does one balance /o/ and /k/ 50/50? I want to be as interested in both as I am in one. Haven't gone to the range in a month.
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>>32070773
>hurr durr, you get your news from Facebook!
Oh the irony, considering that most of the Facebook news about Trump was complete bullshit that was in support of him.

And meeting with world leaders and selecting his transition team is hardly ground breaking. Especially when he's picking his administration from the cronies who sucked his duck all campaign, with no regard to qualifications or merit (hardly a surprise there). Not to mention he needs to do all this work because he's a complete fucking amateur, and actually has "Obongo" tutoring him on how to be President!

Also...
>That's all any candidate actually does
It's actually not, not even in American elections.
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>>32071198
Oh shi
It can be mounted onto these weapons easily
• AR15
• AR10
• SKS
• M14
• Robinson Armament XCR
• Norinco Type 97
• Just Right Carbines (9mm, .40, .45)
• Ruger 10/22
• Mossberg Tactical 715
• SCAR
• Heckler & Koch HK416
• SIG SG 516
• SR-47
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>>32071361
>ie: fearmongering with no basis in fact
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>>32071483
Yearly media outpouring of anti-gun rhetoric with a government that will actually listen to it. Gee I wonder why some would be concerned?
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>>32071338
>What are you even on about? You ended your last reply with some nonsense rant about "what small L means", like it has some set meaning, so I tried to clarify.

>Get mocked for being libertarian because of Libertarian party that I have never voted for by someone who talks about being a small L liberal
>Not understanding that you're giving me shit for the exact same shit you're bitching about

You're a fucking hypocrite.
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I'm curious where you fellow /k/anadians get your news from.
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>>32071552
/pol/ kek
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>>32071338
>maybe I'm just spoiled because the Chronicle Herald is probably the best source of news in Canada.
lmao
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>>32071600
I mean of course everyone uses pol but news about Canada in general?
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>>32071552

Get information from everywhere and believe less than half of it.
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>>32071612
who fucking cares about this shit country

nothing interesting happens here. anything important enough makes it to /pol/.
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>>32071538
No I think you're misunderstanding me, and there's a difference. When we have an actual political party called the "Liberals", saying "small L" is to differentiate the party from the more general category.

>>32071497
>literally the same thing people said last year and nothing happened
The Liberals, for all their rhetoric, seem to realize that C-42 isn't worth the time to repeal. And aside from it being 'that time of year' haven't done anything against guns (they haven't done anything about anything they said they'd do, and voting reform was something I wanted to see).

Not to mention the easy thing about being a doomsayer is you just have to wait and say something is going to happen. If it does, you 'win', and if it doesn't you can often claim the 'victory' as your own. And as an aside, not every article about guns should automatically be taken as rhetoric against them just because it's not explicitly pro (now the Star story was BS though).
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>>32071608
>largest independent paper in Canada
>used to be more conservative but is pretty centrist these days
Waiting for you to tell me what's wrong here?
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>>32071707
>No I think you're misunderstanding me, and there's a difference. When we have an actual political party called the "Liberals", saying "small L" is to differentiate the party from the more general category.

And yet you gave me shit for being a libertarian because we have a party called Libertarian.

Again, you're a fucking hypocrite and you're apparently too dumb and/or conceited to see it when it's pointed out to you.
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>>32071707
>And aside from it being 'that time of year' haven't done anything against guns
And this is the time they're most likely to do it, hence the original statement I made.
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>>32071707
>haven't done anything against guns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BE95qqkTc0

http://www.ammoland.com/2016/09/u-n-firearm-marking-means-canadian-firearm-owner/

liberals have literally approved legislation mandating all new fire arms be cuck stamped on behalf of the UN. and guess what? they're passing the costs directly on to you, the consumer.
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>>32071731
>And yet you gave me shit for being a libertarian because we have a party called Libertarian.
No, I didn't, that really was someone else. What prompted my response was the part where you basically said, "fuck that guy, whether or not he is you". Though I'll admit now that I do have a low view of Libertarians, and your behavior certainly fits with what I've come to expect from them.

>>32071754
And my point that fearmongering (on both sides, because I'm not blind to the bullshit that liberals spout) about things that the government hasn't said a peep about isn't helping the political discussion. It shuts things down and polarizes the sides rather than keeping an open dialogue, which does a lot more to fight back against this crap than anything else. And personally some of my best friends have been people I disagreed with on politics, and had a great time debating those disagreements with them. We even learned things from each other, and changed our minds sometimes. So it's not like it's impossible for both sides to live in somewhat peaceful coexistence.
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>>32071790
>costs
Yeah, that little stamp costs a bundle don't it?

And for fucks' sake some UN treaty that's trying to combat arms smuggling and proliferation in the shit-holes of the world isn't part of some NWO plot to take our guns.
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>>32071871
You seem like a really miserable person
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>>32071871
Roughly $100-200 per gun.
Feel good legislation never works and is a burden on those who are not a part of the problem.
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>>32071871
I'm sure you would love to give 200 extra buckaroonies for a gun but not everyone wants that
Even if it just drives up the price by 1 dollar it's still to much for the consumer to pay for
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>>32071871
nice of you to read the article. people are quoting anywhere between 50-250 added cost to guns. that's a lot of money for nothing of value. its even worse for importers/distributors who actually have to pay the upfront cost for the necessary equipment.

kys
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>>32071929
>>32071934
It's a potential cost burden based on a lot of assumptions the writer seems to be pulling out of their ass. And after perusing some of the other stories (like one about climate change treaties being 'green racism') I'd hardly call it an unbiased source of journalism.
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>>32055814
>>32056625
>>32069282
>>32071338
>>32071394
>>32071483
>>32071707
>>32071863
>>32071871
>>32072003
>ywn get to curb stomp this delusional liberal
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>>32065526
>>32065742
Called them today to ask a couple questions, and got told I had to wait the 28 days again. Apparently upgrading the license counts as getting a new one, and as such requires a second waiting period. However, if it's been less than three years since you got your NR license, the restricted license is only $40, so that's nice.
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>>32055292
Unless you are French-Canadian the leaf does not represent your history nor traditions.
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>>32072022
>ywn get shot while trying to assault this liberal
ftfy

>>32072976
>literally a symbol of Canada since forever
Your ignorance of our history and traditions negates any credibility you had.
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>>32073027
>negates any credibility you had.

Dude, Anonymous shouldn't have any credibility at all anyway. He's always contradicting himself, and even argues with himself most of the time too.
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>>32071364
Dude thats exactly me, i try to distract myself by hitting the gym and playing video games.

Trying to save for a project car, which is difficult because I convinced myself i need a shotgun and need to get my rpal
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Calibremag.ca/meet-brad-trost/

Could he be our guy?
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>>32074191
First I've ever heard of this guy. Liked what he had to say in that article, though it sounds like a "too good to be true" kinda deal with the whole repelling of Bill C-68 and all. Dunno what his other policies are like.
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>>32074306
Honestly the repealing 68 isnt a huge issue to me. The de prohibiting suppressors would be waaay bigger in my mind.
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>>32074364
I'm pretty sure C-68 is when suppressors were banned in the first place, anon.
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>>32074364
Hell, something as simple as moving AR's to non-restricted and de-prohibiting AK's would make me 100% satisfied. Although innawoods pistols, suppressors, and a shorter minimum length for NR barrels would be nice too.
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>>32074191
>pro guns
>against TPP
>doesn't fall for Jewish climate conspiracies
>against worthless immigrants that leach off government/taxpayers
He's starting to sound like it.
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>all other candidates suck dick for conservative party
god i hope brad trost wins
other ones want to increase rapefugees or doesn't say jack shit
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>>32045791
how do you figure that?
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>>32074407
Minimum non restricted length should be fucking 16in, cause if in some backwards universe where aks were de prohibited, theyd be restricted by barrel length. But thats highly unlikely to happen. But not as unlikely as ars being non restricted, will never happen
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>>32074717
>theyd be restricted by barrel length
Unless, you know, someone made 18.6" barrels like they do for literally every other NR rifle including Valmets. Although 16"~ barrels definitely look the best from an aesthetic perspective.
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>>32074682
they're all shit senpai

Chong is like our Rubio though so I had a kek during the last debate
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Would it be illegal to file down the pin on my sks mag so I can close the bolt on a full mag without chambering a round?
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>>32074867
Yes.
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>>32074876
I hate this place.

Thanks for the quick answer though.
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>>32074708
Suppressors or Moderators as they're called in Europe, can be argued that they are for hearing safety and pose no risk to the public since suppressors bring the noise of shots down a bit but are still noticeably loud. And they are not totally silent like the movies make them out to be, that's the part we would have to argue the most.
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>>32074892
He's wrong, it's not illegal as long as you can't load a 6th round into the mag.
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>>32074867
do this

>pop magopen
>hold with hand so you can fit six it
>let bolt close
>close mag again

you now have 6 rounds
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>>32074802
18.5 in barrels on aks are hideous.
8, 16, or 23 are the only visually acceptable barrel lengths for aks.
Also post ban valmets(valmet hunters) were given long barrels and sporting stocks so they could be imported to the us. canada doesnt need the "sporting exemption" shit afaik
>>32074867
Just load it from the bottom
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>>32073027
Canada was what Quebec was called in french colonial times

French people of what is now Ontario and Quebec called themselves Canadiens, anglos called themselves british until the mid-20th century.

The beaver and maple leaf were the symbols of the french Canadiens.

Oh Canada was a french canadien nationalist hymn written for the Societe Saint-Jean-Baptiste

Anglos used the Union Jack personally and politically until the 20th century when the red ensign became more popular, until the maple leaf flag was adopted in 1965.

The maple leaf only started to be replaced by the lilly in french-canadian uses after the 60ies.

>(((our))) history and traditions
Gas yourself anglokike
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>>32075314
England beat France in a war. Quebec was considered in low regard by France, but was moderately handy to England, given England's other colonies in the area, that Quebec was handed over as part of the war settlement without France even asking if it was OK with the citizens of Quebec. Not only that, but England was nice enough to not force the destruction of Quebec's culture and the assimilation of it's people.
>And what a mistake that was.
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>>32075314
who cares

the fact of the matter is you guys are jerks and you fucked over the rest of canada through terrorist methods
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>>32075362
>>32075380
and you cucks deserved every bomb you got. so great is the canadian cuckoldry that they literally invented multiculturalism to make sure french-canadians wouldn't become too dominant in canada, better to let jamal and ahmad overrun the country than the french.
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>>32075442
well i don't agree with that stuff either

i wish trudeau hadnt cucked us so hard

>take flight in vancouver
>they're talking to you in french

also in all fairness, if we all spoke french in canada we'd be at a huge disadvantage, you can't deny english is objectively superior to french
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>>32075442
Do remember that it was Trudeau Sr. of Quebec that first brought that about.
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>>32075474
Just watch me.
>it isn't inferior

>>32075518
>a man who has no love for his own people and betrays them to gain power ends up cucking the whole country
hmm

If Trudeau hadn't been there Quebec would have become a country and Canada wouldn't have to do everything in 2 languages.
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Anybody have a Jericho 941? Thinking of getting the steel version as my first gun
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>>32075650
my friend has one, they're nice

definitely worth picking up
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>>32071871
I assume you've never had to deal with "administration fees" or anything of the like before?
They will fuck you here, I promise.
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>>32049260
>COLT CANADA MRR 11.6"
>FN FN15 DMR 18"
>FN FN15 Tactical 16"

DD or LMT. Better shit for the money.
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>>32071364
>How does one balance /o/ and /k/ 50/50? I want to be as interested in both as I am in one.

make more money
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>>32049638
>i doubt they even looked into my background i could be a crazed serial rapist human/drug/gun/exotic animals trafficker sitting on kilos of illegal ivory and uzis and they would never know cause they rarely investigate shit

They sometimes don't call when they're overstaffed if nothing comes up on the background check.
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>>32075314
>until the maple leaf flag was adopted in 1965.

Under a québécois PM, I would add.
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Moving on from politics, anyone buy anything new lately? I'm thinking of getting an SKS soon.
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>>32077494
I recently purchases an 88/05 commission rifle.
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>>32077659
Do you have any pics of it? Or any reviews, they look kind like neanderthal Mausers and they interest me.
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>>32077494
On sale at cabelas this weekend. Crates of ammo too.
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>>32077787
There's one cheaper in an LGS near me, $200 before tax.
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>>32077820
Cabelas is gonna be 190

22lr for 6c pr too
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>>32077872
Nice I'll definitely consider it.
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>>32077775
Here it is in all its glory, (SKS for scale.) It's big and unwieldy and seems to weigh slightly less than an SKS, but I like these big old guns. I've looked it over once and it's a Loewe Berlin make that was sent to the Turks around WW1, (arabic sights, and a bolt head with a crescent moon.) There's pitting along the barrel shroud and the stock (to be expected with many of these rifles,) and the bore was so dirty it took me 3 hours to clean. I haven't shot it yet, but if the Othias's video is anything to go by, then the gun will start getting sticky after it gets pretty hot. I bought it to pair with the old family KAR88 and I'm not sure how often I'm gonna shoot it really, but I hope to get it out there soon.
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https://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/2016/11/21/trudeau-government-must-tighten-gun-laws-editorial.html

death camps for liberals when?
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>>32078015
Looks like a beaut. You should come back here and let us know how it shoots after you take it out.
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PAL is now innamail! Let the fun begin!
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>>32078058
Yeah, I'll make sure to, I probably won't be able to for a bit though. Not for lack of trying but just because of my schedule.

>>32078032
It's just an opinion piece. The day I see any mainstream media outlet saying, "Canadian gun owners are safe and responsible people. Going after them will do little to hamper criminal elements," I will eat my chest rig.
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>>32078032
>The liberal pipeline of shit, is spewing left wing shit

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT ?!?!?
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>>32078155
>I will eat my chest rig.
I will too. African child sweat soaked shoulder straps and all.
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>>32078032
>Require enhanced background checks to purchase a handgun or other restricted firearm.
>Require purchasers to actually show their licence when they buy a gun and for retailers to confirm it is valid.
>Repeal measures in Bill C-42 that allowed restricted and prohibited weapons to be transported without a permit.

We get a background check literally EVERY FUCKING DAY.
We already have to show our license every time we purchase a firearm.
If we have already passed all the background checks for purchasing and owning a firearm, why do we need a separate piece of paper just to bring it somewhere we can lawfully use it?

None of this shit makes any fucking sense.
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>>32078925
>None of this shit makes any fucking sense.
Because it's written by people who have likely never held a firearm before.
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>>32077872
>browsing to see if they have chinko SKS
>all the mini-14s are well over $1000
>some are $1500
They can fuck right off with that
I will buy some .22lr though, price is too good to pass up
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I don't like antis. How dare they dislike long ranged killing weapons? Those peace loving good people want nothing more than an ideal gosh darn stable society free of violence and tinnitus. I just don't understand these reasonable people who think licensing should be required for weapons. How dare they question muh hobby of killing defenceless furry creatures for sport!?
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>>32079410
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Left eye dominant right handed people shouldn't be allowed to have guns.
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Mauser will be arriving tomorrow lads, hype.
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>>32079442
Because?
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>>32079680
Nice, congratulations.
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>>32071364

I can relate to this. Want to buy an AR but I also want to get some new shit for my E90. I think it's the cars turn this year. I'm gonna get some winter tires.
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>>32071394
>Oh the irony, considering that most of the Facebook news about Trump was complete bullshit that was in support of him.

lol i'd love to see your timeline and suggested reads. It was literally all NAZI TRUMP RAPES ANOTHER BABY the entire election cycle
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Anyone here who's bought from Tenda Canada? They have significantly lower prices than SFRC for 1000rds of barnaul sks food
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Since We mostly live in different cities
could we send in 72 petitions at the same time to stop the act of stamping our fucking barrels 500 times for muh Un?
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>>32056625
Extremely reddit
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>>32075146
You can do this exact same thing to get all 10 rounds in.
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can you buy a gun with just your PAL number?

friend wants an sks from cabelas black friday deal but his license is being shipped and he might not get it in time. would buy it and hold it for him but I'm living 3 hours away at university.
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>>32083621
Not in person. He could online.
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>>32083621
They'll likely turn him away since there's no card physically there. Maybe he can convince them to call the CFO but I doubt they'd go through that much trouble.
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>>32083701
Pretty sure you can order to store then pickup later aka when he has his card in.
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>>32056712
how the fuck did they sneak gay marriage into libertarianism

>additional regulations are a libertarian concept

the libertarian movement seems to have been entirely hijacked by stoner leftists now who only care about legally protecting their degenerate lifestyles
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>>32082531
you have to keep holding it though, you could have it loaded with 6 and the magazine properly shut if done as i describe
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What did they mean by this?
I haven't bothered phoning to harass them, And I assume this means my 28 day waiting period elapses on Friday and that it's already being processed.

Non restricted.

I aced the safety course.
I have like, no court record of any kind. I had a lien for outstanding parking fines forever ago but took care of it. And I made sure to fill out everything as concisely as possible.

So should I just chillax and expect to get it by Christmas? Or is there any roadblocks they might throw at me after this? :o
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>>32083723
>legally protecting their degenerate lifestyles
Just as degenerate as drinking if not less so, stay mad.
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>>32083811
>Just as degenerate as drinking if not less so, stay mad.
not sure what that has to do with anything, i guess you are saying the typical "alcohol is worse than weed" argument? i don't think it's that simple

most of the alcohol abusers i know know there is a time and place for alcohol

the potheads i know smoke weed all day every day from morning until night and think it's good for them

i don't even have a problem with degeneracy, i just don't like that it's been shoehorned into libertarianism

wanting to tax and regulate something is not a libertarian position, nor is forcing people into performing gay marriages or bake gay wedding cakes
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>>32083723
If they can find a church willing to do it, why should the state stop them?
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>>32083791
Call in, and politely ask for an update on progress as to how far along it is.
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>>32083834
because that's not what happens

the result ends up being gay bullies suing people and being awarded thousands of dollars

it's also such an irrelevant issue, gays are what? 1% of the popular or less?

Of that small number how many even want to get married? 10% of 1%?

Not to mention the whole purpose of marriage is for families with children, there's no good reason for gays to even get married
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>>32083856
>the result ends up being gay bullies suing people and being awarded thousands of dollars
That's the result of statist discrimination laws. Again, if the churches aren't being forced, why should it be prevented?
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>>32083888
it shouldn't
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>>32083847
That just seems a little spergy to me, unless there's some kind of obvious hang-up.

Plus my cheque cleared on the 14th, Which means they probably cashed it on the 10th. So they have at the very least opened the envelope and sorted the contents.
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>>32049722

Do the CRFSC at the same time. Down the road you'll regret not doing both.
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>>32083909
they will sometimes fuck up and put applications on the bottom of the pile and not complete them for seemingly no reason, often calling in can speed up the process

they could have had a problem contacting one of your references, and they put very little effort into making sure your application gets through

you're early into the process though, but if they haven't updated it in 30-40 days i'd call in
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>>32083947
Yeah that's my thinking. The fact that my cheque got cashed gives me hope though.

I've heard of people getting it in just over a month without having to stir the pot. The fact that my application is super-uncomplicated gives me hopes. No job losses or divorces in the last 2 years.

Soon, hopefully, I will be /k/

I'm thinking a bolt action 22 would be a nice place to start a gun collection.
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>>32084007
are you single? that helps a lot as well

my friend was engaged but told them he was single kek

it pissed off his gf pretty bad
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>>32084007
yeah a 22 is a great starting gun, then i'd suggest picking up an sks and a shotgun of some sort

do you plan on doing restricted as well?
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>>32074364

C68 is the bane of gun owners in Canada.
All the shittiness flows forth from that.
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>>32084022
Very single.

I did have a broked common law relationship but that ended a long time ago. Falls outside the window of the question, lol. Even if she didn't though we still talk, and she knows I want to get into shooting, so it wouldn't have been an issue, just more red tape to slow things down.
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>>32084032
>restricted
Nah. Just seems like too much red tape for me.

I've done target shooting a couple of times, and it's fun. I've fired .22LR, .223 and 7.62x39

So my plans are to get something 22, then something intermediate after like an SKS.

Eventually I'd like to give hunting a go; so probably get a .308 in there eventually.
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why do you guys keep talking about suppressors so much?

you guys would probably never, if at all use them

they make your gun filthy as fuck, they're expensive, and how many of your guns are threaded or would you be willing to get threaded?
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>>32084073

I'd use it all the time.
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>>32084072
>Nah. Just seems like too much red tape for me.
what red tape are you referring to? the only difference really is that purchasing takes a little longer because of registration transfers
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>>32084107
The stricter storage requirements, ATTs, CFAs wanting to know every time you take a dump.
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>>32084098
they cost like $500+ and will make you gun jam after something like a few dozen rounds though
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>>32084117

Storage requirements aren't stricter at all.
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>>32084117
>storage
the only difference is you have to put a trigger lock on it as well as putting it in your gun cabinet, and trigger locks cost like $5
>wanting to know every time you take a dump
not sure what you're referring to here, they got rid of ATTs for the most part, you only need 1 STATT to take the gun home from the store
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>>32084122

$500 with or without the $200 NFA tax?
>implying all supressors are the same price.
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>>32084132
Oh I didn't realize that. It might be worth it then, assuming Trudeau doesn't fuck it up during his tenure.
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>>32084141

R's dont need a trigger lock in a safe.
Also, anything with 6 metal sides and a lock counts as a safe , per the Ontario court case.
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>>32084139
without the tax stamp

you can get used ones for like $300, but they can range from $500-1000 for varying quality

>>32084157
that might not fly in other provinces, and most gun cabinets are only 3 point locks

i want to buy a gun safe one of these days but im not sure how to get it into my apartment without anyone noticing (i live in a pretty anti gun part of canada and have no idea how my landlord/certain neighbours would feel about it)
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>>32084176

Doesn't matter how they feel about it.
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>>32084176
In my best interpretation of the R storage regulations you can cut a lot of bullshit by having an interior room with a deadbolted door.
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>>32084191
how do you figure?

>>32084212
i live in an apartment by myself so technically only i have access to the entire place, and my front door is dead bolted, so my whole place should be considered safe storage
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>>32084230
>so my whole place should be considered safe storage
If only it was that easy. You actually have to duty build a safe room type area, with reinforced walls, for that classification. As for neighbors, who cares what they think. As long as you don't break they law, they can sit and stew in impotent rage for all it matters.
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>>32084252
they could swat me, the buildings strata could harass me, my landlords could harass me, there are a myriad of potential consequences

i am probably being hyperbolic but i'd rather not take the risk
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>>32084252
>>32084230
It's more to the fact that the spirit of the law is "delayed access" to your guns.

If you have to unlock a safe room and then remove a trigger lock from the gun it pretty much meets the entire requirement on it's own.

If you're living in the safe room it no longer satisfies that requirement.
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>>32084260
>not living in your safe room so that your person is safe too
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>>32084259
SWATing you means they end up in deep shit when the dust settles, and can even see them charged with attempted murder. The rest of it you may very well have to deal with anyways, depending on how shitty they are, and all you need to do is keep lodging complaints with the police to win.
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>>32084259
You know the best way around that?

You do not own firearms
You have never had an interest in owning firearms
You never talk about firearms with anyone else in the building.

No harassment
No problems.
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>>32084279
>SWATing you means they end up in deep shit when the dust settles
I wish.
https://youtu.be/ynd7WqVbE3k
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>>32084296
Rule #1 of Canadian Gun Club.
You don't talk about Canadian Gun Club.
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>>32084307
http://www.ottawasun.com/2016/04/21/three-charged-with-bogus-911-swatting-calls
http://nationalreport.net/15-year-old-swatted-domestic-terrorism/
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>>32084230

Easy. I don't give a flying fuck if someone knows I own guns, nor do I care what they think.
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>>32084122
Id get my 22lr threaded isntantly. Shooting 22lr in my parents back yard (3 acres) would be a dream.
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>>32084296
no shit, that's how the conversation started was me talking about how i want to figure out a way to bring a gun safe into my apartment with no one noticing
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>>32084359
>gun safe
>safe
Just a safe. Something something, sensitive documents, fireproof.
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>>32084357
are you saying you can only do that if suppressed?

i'll bet you there's a local bylaw not allowing discharge of a firearm
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>>32084359

Put it in a refrigerator box.
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>>32084375
pretty sure when someone sees that style of safe it's a pretty dead giveaway
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>>32084359
That's where you keep your passport and all of your important records, it's not for guns.
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>>32084378
Farm status on a hobby farm. Could do it right now but dad says its too noisey. My parents neighbor shoots squirrels with a 410 all the time though.
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>>32084389
pretty sure they're going to assume it's for guns
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>>32084402

Them let them assume. Seriously, who the fuck cares?
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>>32084259
Put the safe in a fridge box or hollowed out couch.
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>>32084073
>they're expensive

I could make one for under 20 bucks.
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>>32084420
Jesus Christ it's bad when you half-jokingly suggest a guy hide a fucking cabinet in a couch to house his firearms.

Why does such a fun hobby have to be such a gigantic pain in the ass?
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>>32084073
I'd use one all the time on my VZ58, and I'd start considering having a threaded barrel a plus on future purchases.
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>>32084176
Easy anon, just put it on one of those uhaul dollys and wrap a blanket around and if anyone asks say its an old cabinet from your parents downsizing.
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>>32084496
It's because we're all insane baby killers who are just waiting to go on a killing spree.

Or so they tell me.
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>>32084508
no one would ask, i just dont want them to see so that's a great idea

>>32084496
he meant just to sneak it into the apartment

>Why does such a fun hobby have to be such a gigantic pain in the ass
because leftists ruin everything
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Canadian no-gunners are just really naive though.

While there are way less firearms per capita in Canada than the US, the rate of firearm ownership is fairly close.

I wonder how triggered all the SJW's would be knowing that there's a gun sitting in 1/4th of all residential dwellings they pass on the street.
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>>32084583
Wouldn't it be weighted towards the rural areas though? SJWs tend to infest cities more, and I would guess that the gun ownership rate is lower in cities.
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>>32084647
Probably. But it really depends on the city.

I'm in Winnipeg, which has a very non-segregated layout. So there's a lot of low cost apartments intermixed with big suburban style grid streets full of detached houses.

So the SJWs are forced to live amongst everybody else.
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>>32084673
As of December of 2014, only about 7% of people had a PAL in Manitoba (Canada-wide average was 6% though). There's bound to be illegally owned guns around too, but not enough to push it to 25%.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/facts-faits/index-eng.htm

Interestingly, there's roughly 30 guns per 100 people in Canada, so the average gun owner has 5 guns.
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>>32083888

It shouldn't be prevented, but churches, bakeries, and pizzerias shouldn't be compelled to serve anyone they don't want to, either.
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Why isn't the Mosin Nagant a recommended beginner gun when it's ~$150?
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>>32084128

Yes they are, and transport regulations are more strict also.
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>>32084274

>not simply being Safekin
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>>32084866
But it is recommended. The only real problem is the ammo's getting more and more expensive.

People just like to recommend the SKS because it's also cheap, and fires cheaper ammo; plus it's semi-auto.
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>>32084866
because it's full powered which freaks out some new people

its ergonomics are kinda shitty too

they cost closer to $200 these days
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>complying with the law

When was the last time the cops searched your house?
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>>32084929
Do you think it's fun to shoot and worth owning for the history? Did you have trouble finding ammo?
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>>32084931
Right this very second as I was reading your post
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>>32084864
Canada-wide average 2.5 people per household.


So 7% of people = 17.5% of households. I was off, but not out in space.

If you take a block with 20 houses on it, 3.5 of them will have guns in it.
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>>32084931

I'm more worried about being robbed when I'm not home and having to explain why my restricted are being used in armed robberies
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>>32084938
ammo is very easy to find, and inexpensive

i find it to be a fun enough gun to shoot, i like mine and still shoot it relatively often even though i have lots of other guns

they are tough rifles that can handle a lot of abuse too
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>>32084540
I helped move my friend into a new place this summer using that strategy so it has been tested, YMMV though. Best of luck.
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>>32084999
i found the safe i want, but it's from costco

now i just need to find a way to buy it and get it to my apartment
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>>32084931
They just kicked in my door brb anon
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Any good black Friday sales coming up?
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>>32071394
>he's picking people that supported him and not the establishment-controlled people who already tried to backstab him
what an idiot, he should select Hillary Clinton as his Secretary of State, she has more experience
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>>32084073
suppressors are expensive in the US because of the 200 dollar creation tax and 200 dollar transfer tax. it puts them outside the price range of cheap fucks so manufacturers focus on the gucci market. you'll get a really bitching silencer for 1200 dollars but it's possible to make a decent one for well under 120.
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>>32085015

There's a Liberty for sale on black friday at cabelas, it's like 300 bucks off.
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>>32085796
cabelas is pretty far away from me

this is the safe i'm looking at picking up

shipping is free too :)

http://www.costco.ca/.product.100313835.html
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Is it true that when the RCMP does gun amnesties you can throw together a shitty cheap ass fake home made gun for cheap and turn it in for free shit?
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>>32085885

I've heard of that in the states but here they'd probably black bag you for building an illegal firearm
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>>32085885
For free shit?

No. For free.
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>>32085896
Nah that's what the gun amnesties are for.

They allow people to turn in illegal or unwanted firearms consequence free and they usually give like a free ipod or something.

Someone told me once that somebody put together a 20 dollar pipe shotgun and got a 300 dollar digital camera for it.
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>>32084583
>way less firearms per capita in Canada than the US
perhaps, but there are still a fuckload of guns
7 million registered firearms at the peak of the registry

cooey built 20 million guns
do you really think that there are more cooeys in canada than all other types of guns put together? this puts the number of guns at least at 40 million, greater than the population of Canada
there are also a few million sten guns unaccounted for, they were never turned in

the official statistic of 30 guns per 100 people in Canada is total bunk based on the reported number of guns during a time when people feared confiscation of their heirloom firearms. It's hard to match the absurdity of thinking you can get an honest answer calling up random people and asking how many guns they have; then they go and extrapolate that number and pretend it's a good estimation.
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>>32085874
>hinge joints on the outside
I've got some bad news...
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>>32085913
what's the problem? do they have a tendency to break?
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>>32085903
that's in the US where gun amnesties make no sense because it's not illegal for normal folks to own a gun. they have to bribe people with trinkets before they'll give up their arms

here they rely on intimidating old women into thinking her husband's 10 million dollar pistol collection needs to be turned in to the police for free
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>>32085937

There was one recently out East where they gave Somali gangbangers bus tokens or something.
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>>32085937
The way I've come to look at gun ownership... is that the establishment needs to be afraid of the number of people with guns. I mean I'm sure I'll get hate here, but I'm a pro-labour voter. I was actually originally planning to vote NDP last federal election because they were the only party willing to oppose the TPP. But if you look at history; pretty much whenever firearm ownership has been most in vogue is when the working class has had the best time in life. Usually after a major war when cheap military rifles are floating around the market.

So of course those MFs wanna reduce the number of guns in circulation. But I'm half way through a mickey of rye and I have no idea what point I'm trying to make now.
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>>32085934
If the hinges are on the outside, you can easily break into the safe with an angle grinder.
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>>32086057
the hinges don't hold the door closed when it's locked, the 9 1.5" steel bolts do

the hinge is just what it swings on to open close it

yeah, it would ruin my safe if they did that but they wouldnt be getting into it simply by grinding off the hinges
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