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I do, although I am a paid Kremlin shill.

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>>32079812
>small
The flanker has a fucking huge radome. When it comes to radars; bigger is generally better.

>>32079812
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE FUCKING TALKING ABOUT AND THAT PISSES ME OFF

>>32079812
What's the target?

The PAK-FA one can illuminate a 1m2 (Su-35 normally is put at 2-3m2 Frontal RCS but I dunno why they put 1m2 lol) target from around 245km which should put its detection range around 315km

The F-35 can visibly follow a target from 800km away

The J-20 has photonic radar sets that can see an F-22 from 275km where the F-22 can't yet detect the J-20.

>>32080007
We're talking about a fucking 1.5m^2 Radar.
How the fuck it can detects planes from 400km?

I always thought that Russians add a zero to every thing they have.

>>32080249
Kek nice memes, ching ling

>>32080249

Photonic radar?
Isnt every radar a photonic radar?
Or what do you think electromagnetic radiation (radar included) is other than photons zipping around.

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there's no need to be upset

>>32081096
There's no way you're getting that scan angle with a fixed PESA.

>>32081125
Gee, good that it is not fixed then.

>>32081026
duhh everyone knows that photonic radars use chicom meme magic to superheat the photons making them fast enough to destroy F-22s with Chairman Mao's mind

>>32081096
>lemme use my high power PESA at range
>oh look something came back!
>BLIPJAMJAMJAMJAMJAM

>>32080249
Citation.needed
Seriously, fuck off Chinaman

>>32082048
>Amerishit "jammers"
Top kek.

>>32083729
>Komrade, let's make obvious lie and say Su-24 jammed AEGIS to offline and make tiny crew quit!
>Da! Is goot plan, more vodka?

>>32080267
>How
Just like any radar really: emit a signal and listen for the echo.

Is this really hard to understand?

>>32083900
Su-24 story was denied even by the producer of the system supposedly involved in the incident. Anyway,
>Amerishit "jammers"

>>32083962
>Implying ALQ-99s aren't beasts
>Implying APG-77/81 units won't be effective multi-mode forward jammers
>Implying you aren't just overcompensating for tiny slavic penis

>>32084002
>Implying amerishit "jammers"

>PESA
dropped

>>32084002
Designated EW station will be always better than "universal" hardware.

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>>32084042
>>32084076
Keep crying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_EC-130H_Compass_Call
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_EA-18G_Growler

>>32084143
>Posting amerishit "jammers"

>>32084200
>Implying anything Russia flies comes close

>>32084215
>Implying amerishit "jammers"

>>32084200
Leagues better than the souped up microwave ovens russia tries to pass of as """"jammers"""" :^)

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>>32084265

>>32080249
>The J-20 has photonic radar sets
Fucking kek
Not even you chicom shills believe that particular piece of propaganda, right?

>>32084143
Honest question here - what's keeping a jammed aircraft from using the jamming signal to shoot down the jamming aircraft?

>>32084364
Lots of things, the receiving sensor being overwhelmed, getting spoofed and receiving false tracks, the jamming acting as a distraction while a fighter comes at them sideways...

>>32084364

Because home-on-jam is a meme.

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>>32084298
>>32084319
>Amerishit "jammers"
>Ahead in anything but crashing into the ground in advance of the amerishit rustbucket carrying it that just exploded

>>32084381
>the receiving sensor being overwhelmed,
By the signal? The missile just has to guide itself to the strongest point of the signal, you'd need to burn it out to "overwhelm" it.

>getting spoofed and receiving false tracks,
How? The jamming equipment is part of the jamming aircraft, if it sends jamming signals it will always reveal the position of the aircraft.

>the jamming acting as a distraction while a fighter comes at them sideways...
2 attacking aircraft? One missile for the jammer, another for the second non jamming aircraft or is this against Gulf war era enemies who can barely fly let alone use their avionics and electronic equipment.

>>32084412
>>32084428
Heh, it's hilarious how easily your weak Russian machismo is bruised and requires aggressive defense. Last I checked the only Russian plane to have a positive K:L ratio was the Flanker at 6:0. And all six were Mig-29s.

>>32084364
Home on jam tracking is denied range data which more or less limits the missile to pointing the nose towards the source of the jammer.
This is a woefully bad way to intercept as the missile don't know the speed and thus heading of the target.
Imagine someone shining a powerful flashlight at you in a dark room while you are trying to shoot him.
In addition to it being distracting, you don't know if the guy is running fast towards you at an slight angle or just walking slowly perpendicular to you.

>>32084481
It's hilarious how
>Amerishits posting amerishit "jammers"

>>32084412
It's fun because the F-117 didn't even have jammers.

Meanwhile russia is forced to build massive trailer sized jammers that can't even compete with small American airborne jammers.

>>32084481
Not Ruskie, also not the one who posted the Serb pic.

>>32084484
>which more or less limits the missile to pointing the nose towards the source of the jammer.
A single aircraft can still triangulate the position of a signal though, US aircraft on SEAD missions do it all the time.

>In addition to it being distracting, you don't know if the guy is running fast towards you at an slight angle or just walking slowly perpendicular to you.
Missiles can manouver though, it just has to track the strongest source of the jamming EM radiation and fly towards it, if it moves away ok, no hit but a jamming aircraft running away wont hit you either.

>>32084515
>I don't actually have any arguments, so I'll just shitpost like the little bitch Russian I am

>>32079812
But it does, though it generally frieds anything in its path.

>>32084536
>It's fun because the F-117 didn't even have jammers.
Or a radar warning receiver, and the Serbs knew exactly where it would be, and had to heavily modify their system, and got extremely lucky that the bomb bay was open and there hadn't already been a HARM launched waiting for them to energize...

>>32084536
>>32084600
>Amerishit damage control
>>32084568
>Actually amerishit "jammers"

>>32079812
Against what RCS size?

A B-52 at 400km, easy fucking peasy.

A RAM coated golf ball at 400km, lel, no.

>>32084683
>RAM coated golf ball
Well memed.

>>32084562
>A single aircraft can still triangulate the position of a signal though, US aircraft on SEAD missions do it all the time
True, but ground radars can be expected to be at ground level, airborne jammers are not that predictable.
If you know the altitude of the target(ground level for a ground radar) and your altitude and position it's easy to triangulate the position of the target.

>Missiles can manouver though,
But it cannot plot an efficient intercept like a missile that has access to range and speed data. The missile can definitely hit bit the range is less because it can't calculate the most efficient course of intercept.

>>32084650
,>vatnik gets soundly BTFO
>"h-hehe, s-stupid americans trying to damage c-control"
Like a clockwork, btfo a vatnik and accusations of damage control is to follow.
Soon he'll be so desperate he tries to force his fatnik meme.

>>32079812
Is this also 100% grain alcohol cooled as well?

MiG-21 radar cooling system cracks me up.

>>32079812
Nope, but officially it has a 350km range against a 3m^2 target:
http://www.niip.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7:-q-q-35&catid=8:2011-07-06-06-33-26&Itemid=8

By comparison, the F-22's APG-77v1 is *rumoured* to have a range of roughly 400km against a 1m^2 target. Against a 3m^2 target that'd be about 526km.

>>32081096
>APA
Assuming (big assumption) that the APG-77v1 range figure is correct and that the only difference between the two radars is aperture size (the 77v1 is meant to use upgraded / the same GaAs T/R modules as the APG-81), the F-35's APG-81 would have a range of about 365km against a 1m^2 target or 480km against a 3m^2 target.

>>32080267
Because 1.5m^2 is very large for a high frequency system; think about what telescopes with apertures the size of your palm can see.

>>32084428
>How? The jamming equipment is part of the jamming aircraft, if it sends jamming signals it will always reveal the position of the aircraft.
Not true, pulse doppler radars work on detecting changes in signal return time and changes in signal frequency (because if the target is moving closer, the doppler effect makes the waves a higher frequency and or a lower frequency for the reverse). Because of this, deception jamming messes with the timing and return frequency by copying the signal and sending out a slightly modified version that's louder. If the jammer is quick and accurate, the radar ignores its real return as noise and takes the fake signal as real. You can continue to send a radar more and more off course by adjusting your signal further and further until you decide to drop the signal and the radar is left with its pants down.

>2 attacking aircraft? One missile for the jammer, another for the second non jamming aircraft
If you're just using HOJ, you don't know the distance to the jammer (and so firing at it can be pointless) and your system's noise floor will be large enough that you'd struggle to see anything else other than the jammer.

>>32084760
>Amerishit posts amerishit "jammers"

>>32085817
I think we broke the Vatnik tardbot.