Does the US Navy really need 350 warships?

>>32055766
Does Russia needs to exist?

>>32055766
No, they need 500.

>>32055766
>need
SHALL

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Yes. We need this too.

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>>32055881

And this.

>>32055766
Do you need internet?

>>32055766
Yes, it says so in the Bill of Needs.

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>>32055894

And this.

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>>32055783
NOT

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>>32055909

And thousands of these along our border.

>>32055909
>>32055894
>>32055881
Wait.. does the...
Whatever you're doing anon. please dont stop

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>>32055769
>Man i'm so tired of ballin, I sleep a lot now
>I let my goons rush ya, like Moscow

>>32055766

gotta justify the welfare rolls

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>>32055924

Also weaponize this.

>>32055783
WE

>>32055976
SHIT

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>>32055926

Over the next decade the DoD hopes (keyword, hopes) to get money for the Joint Heavy Lift -Ultra program. This is the program that initially gave us the V-22 and V-280. The goal is to build a 100-seat VTOL tiltrotor that can replace the C-130 sometime within the next decade (ie, before 2030).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Vertical_Lift

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwq69KsaRn8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Boeing_Quad_TiltRotor

yeah most of the links are a few years old but it's still being worked on. Boeing & friends are figuring out if they're going to need four engines, or just two really big engines.

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>>32055926

Also, the Navy built a drone that can be launched from a torpedo (or as seen here >>32055881 dropped and launched at a later date)

https://news.usni.org/2016/05/16/aerovironment-to-supply-blackwing-mini-uavs-for-navy-attack-guided-missile-submarines

This could also be expanded upon, say with the use of drone balloons (perhaps as aerial recharging stations) and drone submarines.

>>32056035
neat, neat
>>32055998
why tho

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>>32056035

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>>32056055

>why tho

because then you could have a C-130 sized plane land from aircraft carriers and regular ships

that's not a thing anyone else can do

>>32055922
BE

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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/karem-readies-optimum-speed-tiltrotor-for-fvl-424842/

>The army’s programme executive officer for aviation, Brig Gen Robert Marion, says a “milestone A” decision that would approve the programme’s entry into a three-year technology maturation and risk-reduction phase is due in early fiscal year 2021, following an extensive JMR-TD flight test programme. Full-scale development of the first air vehicle will begin in approximately 2024 and the first test aircraft should be ready to fly by early 2026, according to the PEO's timeline.

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might as well post this too, the x-37c

The bigger question is

Can we afford it?

>>32056273

of course we can

it's a question of will

>>32056077
you can land a c-130 on a carrier fine..

tilt rotor is a meme, not a good idea

>>32056301

yes but it's not done as the entire deck has to be cleared. VTOL is better.

>>32056287
T. Country with most government debt in the world

>>32056327
I doubt we'll see any big quad tilt rotor aircraft, they would be expensive as all hell and still have tiny payloads without rolling landings/takeoffs

>>32055938
>When I march into battle, I wanna be packing a belt-fed death machine HMG. Let me reenact the scenes from Terminator because I don't wanna just kill my enemies, I wanna make them shit themselves before they die.

>>32056242

Where do they piss?

>>32056354

America's #1 and will remain #1. Reserve currency status is given to the country with the biggest and bestest military.

>>32056500

enjoy

https://www.walgreens.com/q/male+urinals

OF COURSH

>>32055997
ON

>>32056860
YUROP

>>32056354
>implying debt matters

>>32055783
>>32055976
>>32055997
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>>32056866

Thats a damn good question

>>32057775
FICK, JA!
t.Deutschland

>>32055766

>Nuclear power
For every active nuclear carrier you need 3 more in refit/refuelling/traveling. For the 10 CVN's you have you only get 2 active, without the 11th you will have a gap soon where you will only have one on station.
10 Nuclear carriers
1 active.


>There is no US carrier operating today in the Middle East, a situation that is the product of several years of high-tempo operations and the need to catch up on major maintenance put off to sustain that pace. Carriers have been absent before, the last time was in 2007, but this gap has caught a lot of people's attention, even more so as another will occur in 2016 in the Pacific operating area.
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/naval/2015/11/03/congress-forbes-courtney-stackley-moore-navy-naval-aircraft-carriers-ford-kennedy-enterprise-gap-middle-east-centcom-pacom/75119168/


>When the carrier Theodore Roosevelt leaves the Persian Gulf this fall, U.S. Central Command will be without a flattop for as long as two months 2015
https://www.navytimes.com/story/military/2015/07/30/richardson-hearing-confirmation-senate-mccain-gillibrand/30882305/


>The U.S. Navy is facing a looming shortage of aircraft carriers in the Western Pacific and the Middle East this year going without an aircraft carrier for months.
>“There is no easy way to take a ten-carrier force and operate it like you have sixteen, at some point the wheels will come off the cart.”
>In recent years the U.S. Navy’s carrier force has shrunk to only ten ships. The Navy is required to operate eleven carriers by law, but the Pentagon applied for a waiver to keep only ten ships in service.
>The gap between Enterprise’s retirement and Ford’s entry into service is much longer than anyone had anticipated. “It was supposed to be a fourteen-month gap at ten carriers and now the gap will be almost eight years
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/us-navys-dangerous-carrier-shortage-the-pacific-14848

>>32055766
Also that pic isn't just the US Navy, it's RIMPAC.

>>32055766
welfare for corporations and union men

no, but it will create jobs and help keep dominance

>>32058741
>create jobs
So will paying people to dig a ditch and fill it back up again. "creat jerbs" is not a reason to spend money.

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>>32058741
true in the sense
>>32058749
that ineveitably, when you create white men jobs, a certain percentage of them tend to take it serious and end up innovating/creating/designing or inventing something amazing, no matter what the job or task you set him to.

>>32055766
They need to start building more to exert influence in the South China Sea. Our naval drydocks are severely outdated from when they were built for WWII, and need a major overhaul.

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>>32055938
Smart gun when?

>>32055766
an extra 650 would really round out the number.

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>>32055909
We XCOM now

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>>32056327
Not to mention you have to use a fuckload of JATO boosters to get the thing back off the carrier, and even then it's sketchy as hell.

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>>32056097

INFRINGED!

>>32055766

Yes, because the RN scrapped everything in the 80s and the USN has been playing for two ever since.

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our potential future secretary of defense seems to think the navy does in fact need more ships

https://youtu.be/tKIJKQRb53o?t=22m26s

(22:26)

>>32055766
Does the rest of the world need to ask so many dumb questions?

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>>32055766

The most important thing that the Navy needs is more carriers. In order to maintain control of the world's oceans, a navy with a minimum of 15 full-sized aircraft carriers (CN) is required. Each carrier must also be (at minimum) 300 meters long in order to qualify. There must also be a movement to bring back the fast combat support (AOE) ships. These ships are the life-blood of the carrier group, but they are being steadily retired "to save money" leaving the carrier groups increasingly dependent on underway replenishment vessels. A new class of AOE needs to be introduced to take on this vital role.

>>32063122
>VTOL BRRRRT
Dear Lord!

>>32055766
Nobody need's a whiny little bitch but here you are.

>>32063860

holy shit!

>>32056475
they shit themselves anyway, annon

>>32056367
>sandy cheeks

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>>32067001

Boeing actually got to the mockup stage with it but never saw it through to a prototype, because Aérospatiale/BAC beat us (and the Soviets) to a supersonic airliner in 1968. Plans were scrapped as airlines themselves opted for the larger 747 which could carry more people (and thus actually make money). The B-1 program continued though.

Anyway, pic related was cutup but it's nose/cockpit area is preserved at the Hiller Aviation Museum in San Carlos, California.

>>32055998
Make the airforce 100% vertibirds

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>>32067695

that's more or less the plan, starting with the F-35

>>32055976

WUZ

>>32055774
Fuck you, I thought I was going to be the witty and original person to reply with this

>>32067719
The air force doesn't use the B variant you fucking idiot.

What we need is for Japan to take up some of the slack in Asia so we can focus our forces elsewhere. Our allies need to make some fucking ships. Jesus christ guys

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>>32067997

eventually they will, once the technology improves and is iterated upon

>>32063261
Holy fuck, this guy is even more based than I thought

>>32055998
Pretty sexy idea, however it would be a huge fucking target.

>>32055766
No. If anything 225 would be better.

American troops for American soil, American money for American citizens.

>>32068618

all aircraft are huge flying targets, but people on the ground are just places to aim missiles

>>32068457
A- USAF
B- Marines
C- Navy

Other than one squad of land based C's for the Marines, those are the only variants each branch are using. Also FYI because I'm assuming you think all 3 do VTOL, only the B does.

For the price of a single Burke you could purchase and crew 3x Type 26s

>>32058284
TWO

WHOLE

MONTHS

Stop the presses.

>10 Nuclear carriers
>1 active.

100% false.

>>32069082
>8000 tons +, full load.

No, brits, we wont buy your "frigate" that has half the VLS cells, only 24 of them strike lenght to accept sm-6 and tomahawks.

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>>32069124

>60 days, or 1440 hours without a carrier in the south pacific

We need another fucking Essex program. Shit out 24 carriers in 5 years.

>>32055766
Can the USN fight everyone else combined? If no there's your answer.

>>32069238
I'll call Chile and tell them not to invade NZ yet.

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it's like a carrier, but with nuclear powered tugboats instead of an internal engine

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>>32070532

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>>32070537

better image

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imagine thousands of these being mass produced and used as carriers with VTOL aircraft

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http://aerospace.firetrench.com/2016/06/general-dynamics-awarded-106-million-advance-procurement-contract-for-u-s-navys-fifth-expeditionary-mobile-base/

>>32070542

Jesus Chris I forgot how much of a huge military circle jerk 2002 - 2005 was.

>>32072246

Christ*

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>>32070542
Floating cities when?

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>>32055766
No, it needs 600

>>32056354
>a-america...? can you pay us back?
>no
>o-okay america, s-sorry for bothering you.

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You can never have enough ships.

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>>32055766
>>32073083

Trump is trying to beat daddy Reagan's high score.

>>32068637
No, American troops are for other countries soil.

>>32073148
Daily Reminder that Obama's debt wouldn't be half as bad if he hadn't gotten stuck managing Bush W's wars.

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>>32073148
>>32073997
What the fuck does this have to do with the question?

No one is talking about the national debt, and this is /k/, not /pol/.

CTR plz go, and stay go.

>>32055894
Textron is actually in the process of making the Osprey tanker capable.

>>32070532
So almost like a Russian carrier then?

Yes.

>>32074405

>What the fuck does this have to do with the question?

The implication is that Reagan's oversized navy left the country in a massive hole of debt that it has been struggling to try and escape since then.

>>32055894
>Acoustic signatures so loud it can be heard on submarines.

Good one darpa.