fuddlore

>>32052260
You actually can damage a revolver snapping it closed if your're a tard i.e. every CoD kiddie who wants to play with your revolver.

>>32052260
>you only need 8 shots of .45acp... because shooting twice is dumb

>>32052290
I have done it with my revolvers many, many times and nothing happened.

>>32052300
Considering it's your gun and you know how it works I'd assume you close it normally into the frame. I've seen kids whack it open and shut at odd angles with the force of 10,000 tards and do other retarded shit because they don't know and it's not theirs. I had to replace the arm to my S&W 17 because my cousin fucked around with it slamming it open and close.

>>32052260
>shoot someone in the eyes with birdshot
Do people really think that wouldn't be lethal, if that's what you're implying?

>>32052423
idk, it would certainly be rude. Try it, and let us know the result

>>32052423
Actually, it's more survivable than you think.

>Nazi guns were inaccurate and broke easily because they were invented by the bad guys.

These are some of the same people who say AKs never break or jam when the USSR was "the bad guys" for decades after the Third Reich fell...

>>32052423
Actually, the Fudd who told me this said he wanted to do it in order NOT to kill his enemy so he wouldn't go to prison for murder. In all likelihood, I imagine he would miss, and Tyrone would shoot him with a problem solver.

>>32052471
Fudd's are strange creatures. You'd expect them to go full redneck and not give a shit about some nigger trying to steal their stuff, but instead they have strange unfounded fears and beliefs about things.

>>32052459
I once saw a kid get shot in the neck with 00 from 10 feet, and he's fine now

>>32052486
Fudds are all about ACTING and FEELING tough instead of actually being tough.

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>>32052260
>Let's hear some fuddlore.
.45 ACP

>>32052260
>bullets fit the land diameter of barrel (They don't. They fit the groove diameter.)

Isn't this dependant upon country of origin?

>>32052260
>long barrels are more accurate
Aren't they?

>>32052584
+p and +p+ are nothing to mess with

>>32052649
There is no inherent increase in accuracy from a longer barrel. There is a possible increase in practical accuracy if you're using irons.

In some cases, a longer barrel can fuck up accuracy because of harmonics.

>.22 rounds will deflect and rattle around inside the skull.

>>32052656
Ah, so it's related to sight radius or something then? I should mention I don't have any guns, and shoot rarely (and then only cap-and-ball revolvers).

>>32052649
They are. A 18 inch barrelled rifle will be more accurate 'especially at longer ranges' than an 11 inch

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>>32052519
Don't forget about good old Double Barrel Biden.

He hasn't shot anyone in the face, then made them apologize for getting shot.
But I think he'd like to try it sometime if he could figure out which end of the barrel goes bang.

>>32052260
Hey edgelord, modern guns do go off if you drop them if they aren't designed to be drop safe. Basically every shotgun is not drop safe.
Snapping a revolver cylinder WILL damage the crane.
Point shooting is a real thing.

>Gotta store your x39 in the boxes because if you pile them up in an ammo can they will crush the rounds on the bottom

>>32052683
Yeah, but chances are if you're picking up your first rifle you're probably going to get one that you can put a red-dot sight on later, so in that case it's pointless.

>>32052696
No.
No.
No.
There have been studies on this. Long barrels do not have a significant increase in accuracy. What they CAN do is provide more muzzle velocity. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean that 20" barrel is going to make a bullet fly twice as far as if it was coming from a 10" barrel. Every inch you cut off you are only getting around 26 - 12 feet per second reduced.

The key is MUZZLE velocity though. A projectile as it leaves whatever launches it, is going to be more affected by the weather conditions and the aerodynamics of the projectile itself rather than the barrel it was shot from. Do bullets shot from longer barrels shoot SLIGHTLY flatter than bullets from shorter ones? Yes. But you are not somehow shooting BBs if you cut 4 inches off.

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>>32052704
>if you're a pro you can reload in 3/4 of a second
gets me every time

>>32052730
OK, thanks a lot for the info. I'm liking this board.

>>32052741
Welcome to /k/.

Now get the fuck out.

>>32052750
Why though? Uncertain if serious or joke.

>>32052750
*git
>>32052761
lurk more

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>>32052260
Flicking the cylinder does put excessive stress on the crane and locking mechanism
>>32052300
>nothing happened
Yet

>>32052260

>Hollowpoints are armor piercing
>.50 bmg can kill you it flies past you
>getting shot with buckshot is like getting shot 9 times with 9mm at the same timE
>AK is more reliable than the ARs but is less accurate

Wew

>>32052738
I think there is a legitimate professional shooter who can reload within a second. He was also using a silly mag holster that stuck out at a weird angle directly in front of him at his waist as I recall. There's gifs of it, I'm sure, but I'm too lazy to go look for it. Google 'super fast reload' and you'll probably find him. Vids of it on Youtube.

>>32052652
Oh, so standard pressures for handguns that aren't 100 years old?

>>32052831
But... isn't 12 Gauge buckshot generally 9mm lead balls going around 1100-1400 ft/s or so from the muzzle or something like that? Sounds quite comparable to 9mm to me, if that's the case.

>>32052872
Terminal ballistics matter more than diameter and energy. Round balls are not as damaging as modern conical bullets.

>use a shotgun for home defense it won't penetrate the walls

>>32052704
thank you for cucking the record.

>>32052872

But they don't weigh 115 grains. 000 buck weighs 70 grains, and there's 10 of them in a shell. Muzzle velocity is 1225 so each pellet is producing about 230 foot pounds at the muzzle

A 115 grain 9mm out of a pistol produces about 420 foot pounds of energy.

000 buck is like getting shot with 5-6 rounds of 9mm at the same time.

>>32052889
>>32052960
So it's wrong because the projectiles are the wrong shame, wrong weight, and has less energy, even though it's of the right calibre and velocity. Perhaps it'd be more accurate to say "it's like getting shot 5-6 times by .380 at the same time". There's probably old cap and ball revolvers out there in .35-.38 cal that can be used in this equation. Ultimately though, I think the statement isn't TOO far off.

As for 000 Buck, I thought standard 12 Gauge buckshot (perhaps 00) had less than 10 projectiles in it. What's the difference between 00 and 000? I'm really not a shotgun kind of guy; I prefer rifles.

>>32052960
Sounds more like it's closer to 9 rounds of 380acp or 9x18 then, not really anything to sneeze at.

>>32053060

000 has 10 pellets 00 has 9 pellets

>>32052260
>>dry firing a gun will damage it
it will if the bolts out on many guns, and you can break a firing pin over time with dry fire.
>>snapping a revolver cylinder will damage it
it will over time.
>>long barrels are more accurate
They generally are but it depends on the ammo if it will make a differnce.(a 24inch .338 lapua will do better than a 14 or 16inch but a 24inch .300 savage wont do much better if any better than a 16 inch).

>>I'll just shoot them in the eyes with birdshot
close range birdshot will act like a slug, i saw a guy get his leg blown off at a turkey shoot.

>>32053257
>it will if the bolts out on many guns
What did he mean by this?

>>32053321
alot of people will fuck up and take their gun apart be ARs,Garands,or whatever. Then dry fire the gunner, the hammer will usually strike the frame and hurt it.

>>32053321
>On many guns, dry firing while the bolt is open will damage them
Better?

>>32053395
no, i meant
>on many guns, when the gun is taken apart the hammer can damage the frame while being dry fired.

>>32052260
>>Carry without a round in the chamber
False
>>never shoot someone with modified trigger
True
>>modern guns "go off" from being dropped
False
>>dry firing a gun will damage it
True to an extent
>>snapping a revolver cylinder will damage it
True (can)
>>long barrels are more accurate
>>magazine springs wear out from leaving mags loaded (most people who repeat this nonsense call mags clips)
>>.223/5.56 designed to wound.
Aren't all bullets?
>>shotguns can't miss
Depends on the range
>>bullets fit the land diameter of barrel (They don't. They fit the groove diameter.)
>>muzzle energy=stopping power
>>Glock/AK/revolver/[insert gun here] never fails
>>bullet hit a twig
I don't even know what this means
>>shoot someone without aiming
Did you forget part of this sentence?
>>I'll just shoot them in the eyes with birdshot
Seems logical, if you're good enough
>>leave modern revolvers with an empty chamber
Never heard anyone say this

>>32052351

I fucking hate how disrespectful certain people can be with another persons property.

I had a friend who used to dry fire the shit out of my old guns, to the point where it wore out the trigger.

>>32053496
That is marginally better, but still kind of unclear.

>>32053395
Unless the gun fires from an open bolt, the trigger won't do anything while the bolt is open.

>>32052761
its just a joke, one that he fucked up.
and its not even "now git the fuck out", its "now git out"

>>32052260
>never shoot someone with modified trigger/single action/[insert ammo brand]/21 feet distance, etc.

Can someone elaborate on this one? I have heard my share of fuddlore but this one is new to me.

>>32052716
To be fair, Taurus is a thing still.

And dry firing some weapons damages them, read the damned manual. The Ruger magazine disconnects are particularly shitty for this reason and post '07 870 express pins will damage.

>>32053060
Don't listen to

>>32053130
>full retard

000 is larger shot than 00, which doesnt have anything to do with number of individual pellets per shell.

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>>32053841
Woops

>>32052682
I hear this at least twice a week from the same guy.
>if i was gunna shoot someone id use a .22 cuz itd bounce around inside their skull. thats why the mafia uses them for executions

>>32053801
I've heard so much bullshit for some of those.

>21 feet distance
I'm guessing maximum range that a ninja with a knife can stab you before you draw your gun or some other cop myth told to children

The rest were so stupid they bounced around in my skull like a .22 in a mafia execution and I forgot them.

>>32052260

>>modern guns "go off" from being dropped

they definitely can

>>32053885
It was in the book 'Zombie Survival Guide'. I can tell you that much. Ask him if he read it.

>>32052498
unless he was grazed on the edge of his neck with only 1 pellet; I'm calling bullshit on this

>>32052260
>not sure if bait thread
Dude, these are literally all true.
It's 2016 dude, you may want to do some reading and learn about what is reality and what is fiction.
There is a lot of documented evidence that proves all of these things can (and frequently do) happen

>>32053962

DISREGARD THIS POST I SUCK COCKS!

>>32053257
I broke the tip of my firing pin in my No.4 Lee Enfield once. Getting a replacement pin was no problem, but it taught me to never dryfire a firearm. Always use snapcaps. Firearms like the M1 Rifle are nice because you can decock it by pulling back the bolt a little, pulling the trigger, and letting the bolt forward again. This eases the hammer down instead of just letting it drop. As for the SVT-40 though, you can't do that, and I don't want to leave the hammer cocked in it so I always stow my SVT-40 away with a snapcap in the chamber. Pull the trigger on the snapcap, then put it in the safe. Safe and sound, with the hammer dropped.

>>32052467
>Watching Schindlers List for history class.
>Gets to the point where the Nazi officer guy goes to execute someone with his pistol, it fails to fire
>Second officer tries, his fails to fire.
>Teacher pauses the movie there and goes
>"This is a great example of how German engineering was bad, and German guns were not as good as the allied forces"
>Hand up to object
>"They just said they would sabotage the ammunition"
>Shhh Anon
>"German engineering is world renown"
>Starts movie again and ignores me
>"German technology was..."
>Not now Anon Question time at the end of class
>there was no question time at the end.

To this day, i hate that man.
It aint even about the comment he made or that this was a movie not real life.
He should be teaching facts not his own personal fucking opinion.

Lucky for me next year we had a different history teacher who brought all his old WW1+2 guns into class (Pre Columbine days) and let the class finger fuck and dry fire them all to our hearts content. There is NO way a teacher could get away with that now.

>>32053962
>>32053973
What is even happening here? Oh, it's just a name, no actual 'tripfag' code thing. I bet I can do it too.

>>32054000

holy fuck you're a tripfag without tripfagging

checked

>>32054000
Even got trips with it. Noice.

>>32054014
I have no idea who Hunter 3-1 Actual actually is. Just decided to put it in the Name section to try it on for size. It was worth it.

>>32054036

does it matter? namefagging or tripfagging on 4chan is the worst thing to do

>The Russians adopted 5.45 so they could shoot ammo captured from NATO supply dumps.

>>32053962
>>32053973
>>32054000
>>32054014
>>32054036
>>32054043
Knock it off

>>32053713
the first time
>say something

the second time
>verbally reprimand
>do not let near guns

third time....
>get the fuck out of my house

>>32053885
.....................

>>32053921
moar

>>32054000
>>32053973
>>32053962
hunter is a faggot regardless.

>>32052260
>long barrels are more accurate
But that's true

>>32054126
I heard a fudd say the same thing about 7.62x39...

>>32054191
and yet a mosin still has 8moa

>>32054166
No you knock it off

>>32054246
>Stealing a tripcode
Wow you are autistic.

I fucking love sticking penises in my mouth
Also in my butthole
I just LOVE cock

>>32054262
Samefagging this hard.
Wow you are retarded

Not sure why people derail a thread just to mess with me.
I didn't do anything wrong.

>>32054287
Dude, seriously, you gotta get that tripcode thing.

>>32052630
Bullets always fit the grooves. Lands are sometimes used in naming the bullet. Like the .303 british. Or the .38 special where they went by the case diameter for whatever reason.

i love cock and communism

>shooting at enemy soldiers with .50 cal is banned by the geneva convention
>so they aim for their pouches and gear because technically they're destroying enemy materiel ;)

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>>32053853
>BB means the size of the pellet
>not just the fact that it's a round pellet meant to be used in non-lethal airguns

>>32052260

>that ruger lcr will be worn out before 1000 round and you'll need a new gun there sonny

The whole gun isn't plastic you mong

Don't listen to these fakes, I'm the real Hunter!

>>32054214
Which is even more fucking hilarious.

>>32054338
>using a name on this Japanese cartoon image board
>doing nothing wrong

Pick one and only one.

>>32054261
>Not knowing what a tripcode is

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>>32055237
No, I am Hunter 3-1 Actual

Why are you all intent on ruining the 4chan persona I spent so long perfecting?1

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You would have to be one lucky motherfudder to not get hit with buckshot at medium range. (implying that your aiming down the sight and not trying to hip tard the fucking thing.)

literally no chance of missing at close range

>>32053801
Something something intent something looking for trouble something something crucified by the jury

>>32052260
>.223/5.56 designed to wound.

It is though. There's a reason the Russians aim for the hips when they use 7.62x39. They want to wound the guy and take medics out of the fight and cause demoralization to his buddies hearing him scream. That's an actual tactic. Why the fuck else would we use a varmint caliber? Why do you think our marksmen don't use .223? It's designed to kill right?

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>>32056557
STOP PRETENDING TO BE ME YOU FAGGOTS

REEEEE

>>32052889
That's why I load all my shells with 22lr bullets.

>>32052260
Certain gun designs will in fact damage the firing pin on dry fire. My H&R top break is a great example (though in general it's .22's you have to watch out for)

>>32052260
>muzzle energy=stopping power
projectile diameter x speed x wight = stopping power

>>32052260
>tfw thought all guns were flintlock as a kid
I was a fudd. I probably still am, but I know to look and listen and learn instead of mouthing off about things I don't know about.

I am visiting from /pol/

can someone define fuddlore for me?

I always carry without a round in the chamber (because I have a grip safety)

am i doing it wrong?

>>32058651
/k/ike /k/illing /k/ommando here.

Yes. If you have to rack the slide or do anything more than flip a safety, you're carrying the weapon wrong.

>>32052260
>never shoot someone with modified trigger/single action/[insert ammo brand]/21 feet distance, etc.

It's only fuddlore if you don't think a jury which knows nothing about guns couldn't be convinced of it.

>modern guns "go off" from being dropped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fn6GFSwTEw

>dry firing a gun will damage it
"what is rimfire and why is it important to this topic?"

>snapping a revolver cylinder will damage it

Right, why would anyone ever want to minimize the chance that their cylinder and barrel get misaligned due to improper (ab)use?

>magazine springs wear out from leaving mags loaded (most people who repeat this nonsense call mags clips)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS6L5uSyAmo

mind you, this is not an isolated incident and these were made by *surefire*.

>bullets fit the land diameter of barrel (They don't. They fit the groove diameter.)

the brits would like to 'ave a word with you, mate.

>bullet hit a twig

"bullet deflection due to contact with solid objects in flight doesn't exist"

>>32058651
fudd lore is a system of urban legends propagated by people who know only enough about firearms to feel confident talking about them but not enough to realize how unfounded in reality and fucking retarded what they're saying is. (ie. elmer fudd)

>>32052683
In a rifle, the bullet itself is perfectly stabilized after about 8-10 inches or so. What causes inaccuracies downrange with a shorter barrel is the fact that the lower muzzle velocity leads to lower projectile velocity downrange. This lower velocity means that it is susceptible to being tossed around by the wind. It's not the distance that leads to inaccuracies, it's the amount of time that the bullet is in the air.

The sight radius thing is also an issue as well if you are shooting with irons.

I'm 100% convinced the 'AR-15s aren't reliable' meme was started by the CIA to try to keep people from buying them.

>>32057117
>I'm a fudd: the post

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>>32058651
Fuddlore is the Mount Stupid of firearms knowledge.

>>32054500
Don't encourage him

>>32052300
Gamblers fallacy.. This dude is a retard

>>32059160
>>32057119
>Hunter
>>32056557
>Hunter
>>32055985
>Hunter
>>32055237
>Hunter
>>32054544
>all these fakes
Do you girls do this every time you see a trip code? wow

>>32054338
I know you're 14 and new to this site but you gotta fuck off.

>>32052260
>>shotguns can't miss
But they can't. In my home town I'm known for my famous shotgun trick shot that impresses all the noguns plebs.

Basically I fire a directly into the ground and the birdshot curves in the air and sails straight into the air to take down a low flying quail.

Shotguns won't even miss if you're not aiming at the target. As long as you know what your target is the shot will always hit no matter the direction you fire in.

>>32059350
Underage people can't use this site dude.
He said he just turned 18 in another thread

>>32059431
>just turned 18
Every underage uses this line.