Why is he legendary again?

>>32042360
who?

>>32042360
Trump is considering him for Sec. of Defense I believe.

>>32042360
He sexually identifies himself as a murdersexual.

>>32042360
He doesn't mince words. Something modern Generals are too scared to do because they don't want to risk their future careers as politicians,lobbyists or talking heads on media. He also claims to be apolitical. Something that makes him a good fit for SECDEF. He can't be any worse than the SJW DECDEF we have now and hopefully revert some of our more wasteful social acceptance polices in the military and perhaps tighten recruiting standards.

>>32042360
The Mad Dog got a cameo in Generation Kill, that's why /k/ knows him.

>>32042360
He's a genuine intellectual while still being a hard no-nonsense motherfucker

He's humble

He cares about his men

He doesn't play politics, or at least is talented at not appearing to play politics the way many senior flag officers do

He doesn't give a fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz5fZziMWEE

Not the same guy but for a second I thought it was and got excited.

>>32042541

so he hasn't actually *done* anything noteworthy?

>>32042596
Is earning the rank of four star General in the US military not noteworthy?

>>32042596
He's like a modern day Chesty Puller.

>>32042624

we have other 4 stars

what has he done to stand out besides be likeable

>>32042627
A Chesty Puller with a Pussy Grabber? Sounds fun.

>>32042638
>be likeable
He's literally NOT likeable, at least by modern America's standards. That's why I like him.

He's smart, he knows war, and he's humble about it.

Now stop shitposting.

>>32042650

>he's smart and he's old school

You still have not explained what makes him especially qualified for the office. Why is this so difficult?

>>32042638
Not being hated by your enlisted a is a milestone for a 4 star.

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Who would be better SecDef? Mattis or Jim Webb?

>>32042669

Fucking Monty was beloved by his enlisted, I'm not enthused just by the fact that some fucking grunts suck his cock

>>32042669
I'd agree, but McClellan was liked by his men and was a poor general.

>>32042674
What's more alpha than killing some gook in Vietnam and taking his wife back home with you?

>>32042682
Monty was a faggot with autism that made general due to birtbong nepotism.

He wouldn't send a medevac to save some SF guys during the invasion of Afghanistan.

>>32042360
Read his service history and then tell us: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Mattis#Persian_Gulf_War

While you're at it, look at his stack.

>>32042704

You aren't helping your case. It should not be this difficult to give concrete reasons for Mattis to be SecDef. Shit, I've looked them up in the time it took you to tell me "muh grunts", at this point I'm just trying to find out if you actually know anything about him besides his reputation from /k/ memes.

Trump is picking people based on how hard they've sucked his dick, Trump supporters are rating them based on how mad the things they say make liberals, what he's actually done doesn't matter

>>32042661
He was never a pussy yes man for the politicians. He understood why the war was never going to be compatible with what the talking heads said, and his men respected him for it.

>>32042711

Were they under fire? What's the point of losing the lives on a bird and the lives in the field?

Just asking for clarification anon. Not trying to start an argument here.

>>32042749
So he's one of those "why can't we just murder all the civillians" types?

>>32042751
>Not trying to start an argument here
>Just jumping to the defensive and calling you out

>>32042751
Yes. It was a intense fight. 1 SF soldier died, many SF wounded, dozens of friendly Afghans died. Even after the battle, Mattis refused to send support.

>>32042751
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/01/18/the-green-berets-who-saved-karzai.html

Here, have a read bra.

>>32042781
All because they didn't have fighters on call.

In fucking Afghanistan.

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>>32042762

>>32042541
>dumb animal
>intellectual

try again

>>32042796
That's generally what people mean when they whine about hippies/politicians/political correctness in relation to war.

>>32042783
Sounds about right for a modern Marine Corps officer.

>>32042749
>never a pussy yes man for the politicians
>obeyed politicians for a living

come on now

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>Marine officer
>Ever being a good secdef

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>>32042816
when people whine about hippies/politicians/political correctness in relation to war, its more like why can't you pussyfooted faggots stomach the casualties of war (collateral and otherwise) until objectives are achieved?

>>32042816
>>32042861
Both of you, poor form.

>>32042742
Mattis never sucked Trump's dick, so I guess he ain't gettin picked

>>32042703
taking his son as well to turn into a trap fuckdoll

>>32042861
Collateral is such a PC way of saying murder

What happened to "straight talk"

>>32042977
Because collateral also includes anything that gets destroyed that isn't a human, retard.

>>32042735
You are a concern troll, it doesn't matter what qualifications he offers.

>>32042861

I'd say its more because while generals like Mattis are good at fighting war, the fact of the matter is that they don't to fight all the damn time.

>>32042977
it's so all the bible thumpers don't have to feel bad about breaking the 10 commandments on every deployment

>what has Mattis done to be worthy of the SecDef office?
>Well, he's a four-star general.
>YEAH BUT WHAT ELSE

Nigga, even if all he was was a four-star, that'd probably be enough to at least be competent at the position.

Doesn't really matter what he did besides rise to four-stars and lead troops.

>>32042766

Did I call him out though? I didn't think so. Just asking too hear more about the story which others thankfully provided.

Anyway I apologize anon.

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Leads from the actual battlefield. Does not give a fuck. Confirmed killer

Trump considers Mattis.

Immediately anti-Mattis thread.

Jeez whiz.

>>32042360
Where is his CIB?

Fucking POG faggot

>>32044291
Marines don't have CIBs you retard fuck.

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>>32042392
Will he save europe or will he tell them to fuck off? I think he'll tell them to fuck off :'( poor europe.

>>32044306
they've dug their grave, let them lie in it.

>>32044296
Yes they do. And he doesnt have one

Youre glorifying a POG. kys

>>32044313
No, they dont. I was an 0311.

You're really being a dumb army boot. Just stop.

>>32044313
He has a CAR with 2 stars.

>>32044324
>>32044326
kys POG worshippers

>>32044334
Someone seems upset.

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>>32044313
>2/10 troll cause you got someone. Please don't use big boy words like POG or NIG because then your stolen valor

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>>32044311
Amazing what peacetime will do to a country.

>>32044341
I'm upset this literally nobody POG gets 4 star general for sitting on his ass in an aircon room his entire career then people look up to him

>>32044371
This is now a troll thread. All who stay will enjoy quality trolling, all who leave will never know a life of quality trolling. Quality trolling starts here.

>>32044371
>>32044371
0302....hmmmmm idk what that MOS title means. is it like desk jockey....seems like it with all those ribbions he has from doing paper work.
>upset hooah is upset

>>32044371
>surprised that shit floats to the top in govt

whewlad

>>32044371
Why do you even attempt this charade?

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Isn't this the faggot who joined the Theranos board?

>>32044348
To be fair it's obvious he's trolling now. Could of been a dumb army boot. But he's throwing all the fish hooks out, def just a troll.

>>32044384
Listen to your Sgt sir

>>32044400
Good call pros and cons will reflect

>>32042939
never change, /k/. please dont ever change.

>>32044409
3.9 3.9 for life

>>32042861
Name of statue pls? On mobile no bully

>>32044399
>>32044389
>>32044385
>>32044384
>>32044382
>>32044341
>>32044326
>>32044324
>All these (YOU)s thanks fags

/k/ is too easy

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>>32044453

>>32044398
yes, he got scammed by that tranny cuck tech CEO.

>>32042360
All of my former Marine buddies love him and wanted him to run for President.

>>32042360
Wasn't he involved in some scandal where he was having an affair with a woman writing a biography on him and leaking sensitive info to her?

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>>32044463

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>>32044475

>>32044474
No that was Hillary Clinton

>>32044474
That was Petraeus.

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>>32044464
>>32044398
no, he's a fucking sell-out who paved the pay for Theranos to fraud the military (thankfully smarter heads in the DoD blocked them). He then got a cushy seat on their board. Fuck Mattis.

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>>32044478

>>32044484
That's the one! Thanks.

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>>32044513

>>32044324
>marine takes obvious bait
>nothing to see here folks

>>32044348
>Your
Seriously?

>>32044421
Hey debil, y dnt we have neecap to neecap talk

>>32044554
When will marines figure out fudds with Milsurp would be better fighters than them.

>>32042360

he said some stupid shit which massively set back US COIN efforts in iraq

basically he was a legendary retard, like all marines

>>32044445
You are truly an expert troll for gathering such a large amount of replies. I salute you're resolve and fortitude, you are certainly a quality troll.

Are you leaving the thread? Should I make an announcement that the quality trolling is over for the day?

>>32042861
So, "why can't we just kill the civilians" restated.

>>32044554
>>32044595
>>32044612
0.001/10. Up your troll game.

>>32042674
Webb for Defense, Jon Huntsman Jr for State. Huntsman has plenty of experience dealing with Chyna and his appointment will placate the butthurt of Utahan pod people at McMullin's defeat. Webb's credentials speak for themselves.

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holy shit he's from WA. so this state didnt produce nothing but faggots afterall.

>>32044940
Once upon a time Washington was a based state

>>32042661
Why are you so thick?

>>32044464
what makes her a tranny cuck? Do you even know what those words mean?

>>32043074

>>32042703
>What's more alpha than killing some gook in Vietnam and taking his wife back home with you?
Kill his wife, then take him back and force him to marry you

>>32044444
What a fucking waste

>>32044987
>T H I C C

>>32042627
Mad dog still has about 5 navy crosses to go

>>32045019
Killing him, killing his wife, sissifying his son and turning him into your trap wife, and turning his daughter into the son you never had.

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>>32042783

I'm not so certain Mattis is in the wrong here.

>Oh-so-special forces pull spooky cowboy shit without telling anybody around or making worthwhile contingencies
>Refuse to tell anybody about the specifics of what's happening on the ground, and whine about a situation they knowingly jumped into dick-first
>Get butthurt when the closest officer they can find tells them to fuck off until they can conclusively prove its safe
>Lose men and wound many more because someone wanted to play oper8or
>Someone writes a book about it

I mean, come on, you have to try really hard to make the Marine Corps officer corps look this bright in comparison

>>32042643
Gotta chuckle out of me anon.

>>32042801

Kissinger, pls go.

>>32042977
Murder is general on purpose. If anything its a PC way of saying manslaughter, and even then that terminology doesn't work correctly. collateral is a much better way of referring to all accidental death and destruction in general.

>>32046376
Eat shit. Not only is he beloved by Marines, even Army Navy and Air Force like him.

It takes an anti mil troll to say otherwise.

>>32042360
I feel like people are just dying for another Patton and are making him out to be one.

>>32042360
I leave /k/ for a year and faggots take over. Jesus H Christ.

>>32047001
Patton was about glory and slapped shell shocked soldiers. His own men hated him.

Marines would would follow Mattis into hell.

Your opinion is fucked, wrong, and nullified.

>>32042711
Yeah smart move, we have to famous incidents of daylight helo missions getting BTFO in afghan

>>32047049
Soldiers absolutely loved Patton.
Hell, his speech was literally known as one of the best of all times. You are a fucking moron.

>>32047049
>>32047091
You are dumb as fuck, fuck off bacl to milsim.

Patton was adored by his men.

>>32047091
I watched a documentary today about him. Literally Nope.

He slapped shell shocked soldiers. Almost lost his command over it. Guys talked about he cared more for his reputation than their lives.

Eisenhower almost relieved him.

>>32047112
Wow, you watched a documentary.
You know the reason why Eisenhower didn't relieve him? Because his soldiers loved him so fucking much. Hell, many even respected the fact that he slapped the shell shocked soldiers believe it was just fear rather than PTSD. The fact that he didn't lose he command is a prime example of how adored and respected he was as a leader. Get a fucking education you mong.

>>32047112
Is this something I can read about on the internet? You sparked my curiosity

>>32047091
>>32047099

Drank Army koolaid. No.

He relieved General Wood, because he wanted to let his men have rest. And he was a great general. Why Mattis is great. He actually cares about his men.

You two swallowed the blue pill.

>>32047128
It's rather simple. Patton didn't believe in PTSD or shell shock and thought that these soldiers were just scared. He beleived the way to fix this, and ensure everybody would stay focused and brave, would be through tough love. He slapped 2 separate soldiers and was known to deny shell shock victims rooms in hospitals. Eventually it came to the public, the civvies lost their shit, and he almost got relieved (probably would have it wasn't for his effectiveness.) Instead what happened is he had to give personal apologies to the 2 troops, and public ones to his men.
That's about it. He continued to serve and had a rather large role in the rest of the war. It should also be noted most of his soldiers supported the incidents, the reason being that he had a strong stance that every man, regardless of position, had a job to do and if they didn't do it they let the entire army down. He was very anti-individualism.

>>32047127
What's your military expertise on a war you didn't fight in?

Or any? I fought in one, albeit not ww2.

>>32047135
Patton cared about his men too, he just believe that a good defense is an offense. His tactic was basically continue to advance, the second you rest you give the enemy a chance to regroup and dig in.

>>32047166
Congratulations. You watched a documentary and served. I mean whats your argument here?
If you want to argue against facts, that's fine, but the soldiers absolutely love Patton's personality and were driven by his speeches. He was very charismatic in the barracks and only suffered in the public light.

>>32047187
That's not what the vets who served under him said tho. They said he was pretentious and put their lives at risk for no reason.

>>32047187
Oh. I guess you know more about ww2. What front did you fight on?

>>32047210
That is what the vets that served under him said. You might be thinking of the Brits, who hated him. Most of the other officers hated him too, and his 2nd didn't like him, but most of the Americans absolutely adored him. I mean we can sit here and argue over nothing all day, because every time I say that his troops supported him, or that his speech prior to d-day was literally one of the most wildly remembered and loved speeches of all time, or that people repeatedly said they like how he seemed so down to earth with the common soldier, we will get back to 'w-well thats not what this one documentary said' or 'well I think differently'.
>>32047221
Good argument dude, you really convinced me with your backed up facts.

>>32047229
That is not*

>>32047229
His men tolerated him. Did he get the job done, yeah. Did his men "adore" him, fuck no.

Look I don't hate the guy, but he had some real flaws. Mattis > Patton.

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I'll just leave this here. Even though it has /pol/ cooties all over it.

>>32047260
I don't know much of Mattis so I can't say, but I will say that his men, at the very least, were highly motivated by him. He had a way of raising morale and was very charismatic.
If you want to continue denying facts on other fronts, that's fine, but you have to actually know the other part.

>>32047266
I really hope this is a true story.

>>32047275
All I know is Mattis wouldn't go around slapping his Marines. But different times, different era.

Even back then when Patton did it was taboo, he had to publicly apologize by order of Eisenhower.

He was a great general. I'm not gonna say otherwise. Anyway Mattis is a BAMF. Why wouldn't you want him as Sec Def?

>>32047112
wow so you mean to tell me the History channel found some shitbags who didnt like patton to do a hit piece? Get out?

The only war you ever fought in was at your local airshit field or on playing butt torperdos on a ship in the gulf.

My grandpa served under patton and loved him, he lead from the front. Eisenhower was a cuck faggot.

And as far as shell shocked PTSD soldiera go, if you had actually fought a war, i.e. being a ground pounding Grunt and not a PoG, you'd know that even now we look at those guys who get that during combat as pussies.

>>32047315
I'm not saying slapping his dudes was a good thing, only that it wasn't really a science as far as PTSD goes

>>32047315
Youre fucking high if you think Mattis wouldnt slap the shit out of some shitbag duty shirker

>>32047329

>The only war you ever fought in was at your local airshit field or on playing butt torperdos on a ship in the gulf.

Former 0311, so wrong. Why do you think I'm so pro Mattie.

You're fucking dead, kiddo.

>>32047339
Show me where he did.

>>32044306
>hurr durr, if your defense minister isn't a man, you're doooooomed!

>>32044554
Chuckled

>>32047156
>he was very anti-individualism

So he was a communist?

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>>32044623
Quality trolling has resumed!

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>>32047424
No. He understood his draftee target audience, and he was trying to swing them around to his career-Army way of thinking. Which back then was a calling with no GI bill and shitty pay. It was like being a monk who blew shit up when your country wanted.

>An Army is a team—lives, sleeps, eats, fights as a team. This individual heroic stuff is a lot of crap. The bilious bastards who write that kind of stuff for The Saturday Evening Post don't know any more about real fighting, under fire, than they do about fornicating..."

>"Every man has a job to do. Every man is a link in the great chain. What if every truck driver decided he didn't like the whine of the shells overhead, turned yellow, and jumped headlong into the ditch? He could say to himself, "They won't miss me—just one in thousands." What if every man said that? Where in hell would we be now?...

Unfuck yourself and start trying to understand your betters instead of winning arguments, faggot.

>>32047424
As far as the military went, yeah. He believed everyone had their place and that their was no room for individualism in the military.

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>>32047439
You don't work for the Saturday Evening Post, do you.../

You little twinkletoed cocksucker. I BET YOU DO.

>>32047445
Lulz. Phil you are a cocksucker sometimes, but yeah. Their shit is ultra retarded.

>>32042977
Collateral damage means anything that gets killed or destroyed by accident or as a indirect result of combat.

>PC
It's a military term, retard. PC wasn't even the beginnings of and idea when collateral damage came into use.

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>>32047112
>literally nope
>I watched a documentary today about him

You have the smug, brainless liberal impersonation down pat. 9/10.

>>32047049
does the poor pog need his ball pit and his section sergeant to carry his rucksack again?

>>32042507
He was a LT Col. at the time of the invasion I believe

>>32048624
Wasn't a pog. Don't use that word civilian.

Patton was a cunt. Deal with it.

>>32042711
Sf is army and that dude is a marine... what in the fuck are u talking about

>>32047329
>if you had actually fought a war, i.e. being a ground pounding Grunt and not a PoG, you'd know that even now we look at those guys who get that during combat as pussies.
You are so full of shit it isn't even funny. Guess you won with your shit trolling.

>>32047475
Well politically correct has been around since the 1920's or 1930's. Has collateral damage been around that long?

>>32048784
>being this stupid
Alright, if your in the shit you call out to any friendly units. Which could be Marines. Also, I don't know the exact situation, so that anon may have been using SF as a general term for all Special Operations Forces. Such as SEALS, SF, Delta, arguably Recon, and so on.

>>32046974
Bombing a hospital or wedding and shrugging it off as an accident is still murder

>>32048757
>you were a pog you lying px guard
>ive got almost as much time on the front lines as your mum had with dudes balls on chin
Keep drawing circles faggot

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I bet you're a noserve civ.

>>32047358
you sound upset

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>>32042360

He's on the Board of Directors at General Dynamics. I know because I voted for him in the online shareholders meeting. I wonder if he can be pulled away from the only sham job hes ever had to be a government servant again.

>>32047358
>Hurr durr the defense minister should have no military experience

>>32046398
I think I'm reading the bluff notes for the next metal gear game.

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>>32048720
He was in charge of 1st MarDiv

>>32042596
>>32042638
He was in charge of all Marine Ground Forces during the Invasion of Iraq. I'd say that's something special.

>>32042674
Webb would throw a fit and resign in protest the first time Trump does something controversial.

>>32042674
Webb probably won't agree much with trump so I don't know if he'd want to. That said he was secretary of the Navy under Reagan so maybe he'd do it. He'd definitely have experience that Mattis doesn't.

>>32051733
Not only that, he was in charge in the Operation Phantom Fury, probably one of the few isntances we soundly kick the insurgents ass on their home turf.

He also took care of his Marines and tried to hook them up when he could, we were pretty pissed when Obama posted him for not agreeing with him

>>32044505
that's because the latter is dead

>>32042861
>edgy memelord wants to kill civilians
> greek statue
alt-kike confirmed.

>>32052417
thanks for ruining the joke m8

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>>32047438
>What if every truck driver decided he didn't like the whine of the shells overhead, turned yellow, and jumped headlong into the ditch?

DELETE THIS