There's been a trend lately with guys running their guns in war and duty without BUIS. The keyboard warrior response seems greatly apposed to this idea.
I can see either side.
What do you all think?
http://www.defensereview.com/tactical-ar-15m4m4a1-carbine-aftermarket-accessories-for-military-combat-applications-the-competition-to-combat-crossover-part-iii/
>>32041272
I got issued an A.R.M.S. 40L sight at my unit for my C7A2 or C8A3 and I don't use it. The Elcan C79A2 is a tough motherfucker and if it actually breaks (I've never seen one actually break from use in 10+ years in the CF with three tours) I'll still have dozens of retards around me with working sights so idgaf.
>>32041272
Things like ACOGs, Aimpoints and the MRO are retardedly durable. ACOGs are actually more durable than the M16's. Frank Proctor has an excellent video on this exact subject on youtube
Eh. Its a bad idea not to have a backup, but if the ounces-mean-pounds shit is more important to you then I guess its your prerogative.
>>32041313
Link to video?
I had an aimpoint fail on me. It was the recoil of the gun shutting it off.
Aimpoint was on one second, take 1 shot and now it is off. I can't imagine the feeling of having that in a fire fight.
If you are in an army of people sure, you could probably get away with it. If you are solo you are literally fucked.
I have astigmatism so can't use red dots. I use a variable scope, irons or a prism sight on my rifles, so have little use for BUIS.
>>32041724
Iron sights have never failed me
>>32041272
Sight redundancy adds barely any weight. I'd say there's is no reason at all not to have BUIS.
Anyone? Why NOT have BUIS?
>>32041843
theyre too lazy to zero them
>>32041843
Rail space
>>32041871
Good lord. How much fucking rail space do you need?
>>32041303
>if it actually breaks
Real danger is water on lenses. Mud, rain, fogging, ice. Living and fighting in the desert makes people forget about water's existence.
>>32041890
>>32041871
OP picture is pretty maxed.
>>32041903
They get foggy sometimes indeed.
>>32041890
>posting a picture of a mud person
You do realize they have no idea what they're doing right?
>>32041946
>>32041843
I can't answer your question, I'm pro BUIS.
But can you tell me why a pair of offset BUIS are $300
>>32041890
Depends on your scope mount. I took BUIS off my 20" for two reasons. One was rail space. Cheap ones interfered with my charging handle under a normal scope. The other was unnecessary weight. It shaved 2.5 oz, which is good when I'm looking to shave more weight in the near future. Either with an Ace AR-UL or an MFT Minimalist stock.
>>32041903
This. We've been fighting in arid climates for going on 2 decades. When we start doing combat in jungle or temperate areas, we'll see a shift in preference toward methods/systems/equipment that's not as vulnerable to prevalent environmental factors.
It happened in Korea and Vietnam, then we really ramped it up for Afghanistan/Iraq. If we get into something with China, don't be surprised if there are some sensationalized reports of optics and radios failing due to corrosion or mold.
We'll adapt like we always do.