/akg/ AK General

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>>32023174
i dont like troy HGs, but the top one doesnt look that bad. reminds me of a bizon

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>>32023174
Those things are fucking disgusting

>>32023174
I used Troy for a year...shit was a bitch to install and heavy as fuck.

Dumped it for Manticore arms...a drop in part.

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the GOAT

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what is the pistol
not the wire one, that in back is AK?

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>>32023306
NIGGA WUT?

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>>32023223
They all are heavy as fuck.

>>32023364
>Posts polymer...says it's heavy.

Well, I felt a noticable difference when switching from Troy's battle rail to Manticore's.

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I want to put plum furniture on, what kind should I get and where?

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I've got a beautiful Polish kit, and would love to make an AKML clone out of it. The only differences I'm seeing are the flash hider, side rail, and bipod, all of which I think I can find.

I'm having trouble finding any real detail on the AKML though. Does anyone have any more detailed info sources I could reference?

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I want a Polish wire sidefolder. Do any of you fags have any experience with them?

>>32023584
Do you mean a 7.62 kit, and just slap on an East German sidefolder, or do you mean a Tantal kit?

>>32023602
Tantal for a braked 5.56 rifle.

>>32023619
Well, if you're going with 5.56 for a Tantal kit, armsofamerica has them with a CL bbl included and the gas port already drilled. I don't have experience with those kits, but there are plenty of 5.56 Tantal builds out there, and there were very few modifications needed given that Tantals were designed for 5.45. I'd feel pretty comfortable jumping into that. I don't think it'd be any more difficult than a typical AK build, though you might have to switch out the bolt and bolt carrier. Builds I've seen use 5.56 bulgy bolts, which use standard 7.62 bolt carriers, if I remember correctly.

If you want it to take STANAG mags, you'll have to get a Canis or similar mag adapter.

>>32023584
Why would you ever actually want one of those outside of using it on a Tantal where it is "correct"

They're some of the most uncomfortable stocks ever made

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>>32023812
I already have the rifle, just need the stock. Building is for /arg/

>>32023821
>lol uncomfy
don't be a bitch. a 5.56 with a brake recoils like a rimfire and the compactness and aesthetic > nato-length butt

>>32023619
>Tantal for a braked 5.56 rifle.
IF its a DDI-branded rifle, its already broke.....

>>32023890
holy shit and i thought the best general was cancer
what have you faggots done with the place

>>32023886
It's not uncomfortable from the recoil it's uncomfortable because there's nowhere to put your cheek dumbass

What's the value of a Tula 86 AKS-74u parts kit?

>>32023929
Around $1300 to $1500

>>32023928
>implying slavshit requires any degree of cheekweld

>>32023929
I wouldn't take less than a grand assuming it's all matching.

>>32023886
>I already have the rifle, just need the stock. Building is for /arg/
You just said two things that make no sense.

Your kit didn't come with a stock?

You think that assembling Legos is a build?

>>32023959
So, you just hopped in to shit things up then?

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>>32023174
wood is better

>>32023959
No gun requires it but it's certainly nice

>>32023975
It's pretty obvious what he's saying now and you're still not getting it. Or doing a good job of trolling him

>>32023943
>>32023961
Thank you two. I picked one up at an estate sale for cheap and have asked this question numerous times only to be told utter nonsense or "PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN".

So, since Trump is in (for a limited time) will prices for AK's drop?

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>>32023398
It's polymer on the outside but looks are deceiving. There is an aluminum heat shield inside and between it , the rings that hold it onto the barrel and the polymer it all adds a lot of front end weight to the rifle.

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Hey guys. I'm finally able to afford to buy an AK or an AR and I'm having to really think about which one I want to buy first. I've always always wanted an AK. I've gone to the range with an AK a few times, love how it shoots and feels, I have no problem with an AK at all. But I keep hearing pretty much everywhere that the AR-15 platform is more accurate and precise than the AK platform, particularly at longer ranges. Now I'm not too worried about long range shooting because I doubt I'd be shooting at very long ranges with an intermediate cartridge anyway, but I just wanted to get your guys perspectives on how accurate an AK can be compared to an AR. I know a ton of it goes down to the shooter and what the shooter prefers and performs better with. I feel like everywhere else is based in favor of the popular AR platform, so I wanted to get some of your perspectives.

Pic semi related, I'm getting it turned into a poster.

>>32024034
I'm saving my money for the deban on Russian imports & later economic collapse :).

>>32024031
How much did you pay?

>>32024023
I'm turning my AR into an LSW, I figured I should turn my AK into a CQR to even that shit out

>>32024064
look at Ak 47/74 Union on utube. How much are u willing to spend?

>>32024064
Oh yeah, additionally, why does everyone seem to hate Century Arms imported AKs? Sorry for the dumb questions, I'm kind of new.

>>32024081
Imported is usually fine, NPAPs have had some issues though. Century BUILT guns are what really sucks.

>>32024081
Wasr is the only thing going for Century.Stay away from Ras and the C39.

>>32024076
50 dollars. I figured it would be worth a couple hundred but not as much as you and the other guy said.

>>32024079
I'll watch these, thanks man. I'm not sure really. I'm definitely willing to put a good investment in on a good rifle.

>>32024125
First ak? Then...

http://www.k-var.com/shop/FM-AK47-11.html

>>32024078
What is an LSW

>>32024116
Fuck you if you're telling the truth and fuck you if you're lying

>>32024140
or on a budget...the mighty WASR

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>>32024145
light support weapon, SAW or IAR is the same.

>>32024116
I really hope this is true, but it's incredibly hard to believe. Good job on a good find.

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>>32024116

>>32024039
Okay, Autistic Child.

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>>32023456

>what kind should I get

russian

>and where?

the internet. gunbroker, russiansurplus.net are good places to start.

I want to pick up a semi auto .308 to hunt with, and I'm genuinely considering a Saiga (keeping it stock, no plans on converting it). I've already got my designated bolt gun that I hunt with but I just want something different. Are .308 Saigas accurate "enough" for hunting medium game out to at most 300 yards or so (even 300 is a long shot as its pretty dense here, I've never taken a deer farther than 70 yards or so).

I was wanting a Browning BAR but an AK would be just as cool because I'm already familiar with AKs and a Saiga would just add to my AK stash. I was considering a VEPR but I used to have a VEPR in 7.62x54r (sold it for a high price when people thought they were banned) and it was pretty heavy compared to every 20" Saiga I've ever handled.

>>32024145
>>32024165
>>32024177
I got there early and it didn't have a price marked on it. I asked how much they wanted for it and some 20 year old blonde said 500, I told her it'd be worth that much if it was the actual gun and that I'd give her 50 for it. I was already buying 250 dollars worth of other stuff so I guess she ust figured 'fuck it'.

If anyone is interested I'd take 1250 for it...

>>32024278
>the stippling
XD

There's so many AK designations, makers, etc, which do you guys think is the best? I live in Michigan if it matters.

I might be selling a gun and if it goes through I'll have an extra $600 to spend on AK stuff. What should I get? More ammo? More mags (always need more mags even though I'm sitting on around 30 surplus 5.45 mags)? Decent deal on a beater AK? Save for something big? Save for something new once The Donald brings in fresh slavshit?

I hate having money burning a hole in my pocket!

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>>32024359
I'd about do it if I had the money but I just bought an AR

>>32024162
I see

>>32024343
Get an FAL, a BAR will run you about ten times the cost assuming you can even find one converted from open bolt to closed bolt

>>32024401
P A R T S K I T S

>>32024359
I'm still waiting on pictures t b h

>>32024326
Okay.

>>32024425
I've already got an FAL and its way too heavy to be a hunting gun, and you're thinking of the wrong BAR.

>>32024442
Get bigger arms. And are you talking about the bolt gun then? Always pissed me off they made two wildly different rifles with the same name.

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>>32024343
If you like BARs you could also look at the FNAR.

>>32024425
If I'm thinking right, you're thinking of the wrong BAR.

>>32024459
Yea shit nvm, this >>32024463 is the one. I've seen like one picture of it before in a sale ad, only cause I thought it was gonna be an actual BAR. Fuck Browning for that seriously

>>32024463
I don't know much about the FNAR or BAR but I handled an FNAR in a gun store and it had the slickest action I've ever felt on a semi auto rifle. Seemed very well made.

>>32024459
>Get bigger arms
It isn't about how heavy the gun is while shooting, it's about not wanting to haul around a huge 11 pound piece of steel innamountains
>bolt gun
It's a semi auto

>>32024463
I've thought about the FNAR but tbqh it's just too tacticool for me. BARs are around the same price if I shop around and they're just cooler. Thing is though a Saiga will fit my collection better, is an AK and therefor is simpler, and would be cheaper assuming I dig long enough. I just don't want it to not be minute of deer vitals and not kill cleanly.

>>32024494
Browning Arms Company didn't exist when the 1918 was being made tho, and it makes perfect sense for them to name their new autoloading rifle the Browning Automatic Rifle

>>32024588
Yea it makes sense but the 1918 is still referred to as a Browning Automatic Rifle as well, you'd think they would at least call it the BAR2 or something. And get a sling come on now. A VEPR is gonna be like 9-10 pounds too

>>32024410
Ew a ar ?
What kind ?

>>32024620
>A VEPR is gonna be like 9-10 pounds too

>I was considering a VEPR but I used to have a VEPR in 7.62x54r (sold it for a high price when people thought they were banned) and it was pretty heavy compared to every 20" Saiga I've ever handled
I'm not asking about VEPRs, I'm asking about Saigas which are a few pounds lighter. My old VEPR was about as heavy as my FAL is, and although its only 3 or 4 pounds heavier than a Saiga it adds up when lugging it around on a sling or not.

>>32024439
I'll post pictures tomorrow when I'm off work, promise.

>>32024773
Oh shit a Saiga, I misread. Ask Daweoo to weigh his Saiga, and assume it's mildly heavier than that then

>>32024807
I think he is refering to .308 saiga

>>32024836
Same gun different barrel and bcg are they not?

>>32024760
LWRC M6IC-DI

Thoughts on VZ58/2008?

>>32024860
Nice , i dont feel like looking it up but what barrel length did you go with?

>>32024410
What manufacturer is your lower m8?
has blucarpets finally convinced you to own one?

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my saiga <3

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>>32024880
>58
My favorite 7.62x39 rifle
>2008
Bretty gud when they were $400 but the Century guns are considerably rougher than their Czech counterparts.

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>>32024844
The weight will be different because muje is 5.45.

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>>32024944
Convert that shit man

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I want to buy an AK

I'm okay with an affordable, not necessarily accurate ak

I am not okay with an ak that's going to fall apart after 1000 rounds

what kind of AK should I get?

Guys I heard the RAS is better than Vepers. Does anyone know where to get one at a fair price?

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>>32024927
16"

>>32024933
It's all LWRC factory. I shoot blucarpet's AR somewhat frequently and I like it a lot. This was somewhat of a panic buy but even though trump was elected I don't regret it at all. It seems like it should be a nice rifle.

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>>32024973
Wasr

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AK9 handguards all the way

>>32024973
WASR

>>32024973
WASR-10 are gonna your starter cheap AK. However, cheap is a bit relative, as they still can get to ~$700. But they work, and can take abuse.

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>>32024993

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>>32024995
Thats ar is too fancy for my liking,but it looks really good.

>>32025002
>>32024999

From atlantic?

you guys will probably hate this stupid question but do other companies make WASR's?

Can I buy a Century WASR?

once again sorry for being completely retarded about aks.

>>32024993
Whomever told you that is wrong, especially considering veprs are RPKs with a thicker receiver and barrel

>>32024973
Don't fall for the I.O. Tech jew

>>32024995
Yeah i like his AR quite a bit when i shot it at the meetup, honestly preferred it over Giddy's. Your AR looks nice m8, ive always had athing for LWRC's barrels.

>>32025036
WASR's are just made by one company and currently only imported by Century.

>>32025017
>>32025046
But only 16/20,000 have been returned to the factory for warranty claims, and we at century to honor our warranty on the off chance your rifle doesn't meet your expectations. The fact is that the RAS-47 is the best American made Ak available.

Flandre forgot to put the screws in my buttstock when building my AK74.

Where can i just buy some correct screws?

I have surplus bulgarian communist sized furniture. As it was built from a bulgarian parts kit.

>>32025113

what is the difference between a WASR and a milled receiver made in America century ak?

>>32025018
I like plain ARs too but I wanted something that would be accryate and with a free float rail that could hold a bipod

>>32025063
Giddy's was the first time I had ever shot with a suppressor which was cool but it was heavy as fuck. Even when I paid for this gun I didn't like the spiral fluting very much but honestly it has grown on me.

>>32025201
Yeah it was also my first time shooting a suppressed rifle and ever since ive wanted to get into NFA but yeah his rifle was so damn front heavy it was uncomfortable to shoot offhand. Glad to hear it has grown on you, LWRC is expensive but worth the money in my opinion

>>32025277
This one is actually much more affordable than the piston guns. I'm not a fan of piston ARs so I was happy to see they are making a DI one now. I was convinced on the quality of LWRC after shooting a suppressed REPR at Nuggetfest. It was incredible, piston and all.

>>32025117
actually i spoke with a guy at Century's customer service, my first AK was a C39v2 and for some reason the point of impact shifted like 10+ inches with a slant brake. Honestly i still cant figure out why but the guy at the customer service insisted that I was lying outright.

>>32025117
>But only 16/20,000 have been returned to the factory for warranty claims, and we at century to honor our warranty on the off chance your rifle doesn't meet your expectations. The fact is that the RAS-47 is the best American made Ak available.
>and we at century to honor our warranty
>we
>our
shill detected

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>>32023223
Got a Troy rail as well, an absolute cunt-and-a-half to install. But damn if it doesn't look and feel great compared to a standard poly lower, weight be damned.

Still open to alternatives though, I'm afraid of when I'll have to remove it for whatever reason.

>>32025384
I got the chance to run a few mags through a Ruger SR556 piston gun and i didnt like the extra weight up front and it got too hot to hold the fore end near the gas block pretty quickly.

>>32025277
LWRC is just an overpriced piston Colt.

>>32025534
Ehh maybe, maybe not. Although Colt wishes they had half the innovation that LWRC does.

>>32024971
But it is "converted"

>>32025011

I'm willing to pay 1000 for something with a folding stock, idgaf if its magpul or whatever, what can i buy that will work until it turns to rust?

>>32025725
Arsenal. Not always my first recommendation but if you're willing to pay that much and a folding stock is a high priority then an Arsenal SLR is probably gonna fit the bill.

>>32025626
Colt owns LWRC

>>32025919
Being a subsidiary doesn't mean they work under Colt's supervision

>>32025943
Still owns them. Still overpriced. Only paying for the name and shitty piston based AR.

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>>32024064
Honestly this is a really bad time to buy ak rifles right now as the market is really screwed up in terms of pricing. I purchased my WASR10 late last year at 600 out the door including ffl fee, and a month ago people were selling second hand ones for 800 bucks. Honestly, wait until Arsenal SLR-107 comes back on the market, or just get an ak-74 and get an SLR-104. It's worth the dosh to get one really good quality ak.

>>32025954
Yea all true, just saying that LWRC can be much better than Colt even though they own them. Like DICE to EA

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Fuck these waffle mags are really light! I might get a few more.

>>32025991
They're bretty cool

>>32025954
Mine is DI, not piston. I don't even care if the gun was made on Colt machines, the manufacturing quality is very good

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>>32026065
Chimps, when were these mags used and for how long?

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Pic related any good? Want to buy an AK soon amd was going to go with a WASR but figured I could drop more and get more quality. Budget is 1.2k, thoughts?

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What model does this pic related belong to?

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>>32026224

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>>32026205
>>32024140

>Fixed stock
> No bayo lug
>No cleaning rod
>1000 Obongo Bucks

shiggy diggy doo

>>32026205
MOLOT VEPR
1.5mm receiver
Machine gun rated barrel
Chrome lined
VEPR w/out hotdog bun hand grip
Cool RPK style which didn't have a bayonet lug so it's appropriate, though did have cleaning rod. They do ship with rod just not mounted under barrel.
This is a Kick ass AK
See Clash of the Titans video series that AK Operators Union is doing on Youtube.

>>32026095
No idea when they were first produced, but definitely sometime during the AKM life cycle, so somewhere between 1960 and 1977. I believe they were issued specifically to paratroopers with AKMSs.

>>32026224
AK-74M

i got 1 from belco needed some work but fires pretty straight now

I'm about to buy a RS Regulate side rail mount

Is there any reason I shouldn't?

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>>32026205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuLHkE9DjJc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK6E2Qi5uPg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQOa5B_66oY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKl93noGTAU

>>32026205
They're good. Only bad thing is that they use RPK furniture because VEPRs have thicker receivers so your options are much more limited compared to a normal AK

>>32026373
This is true, but I like the furniture on them as they are and it's well made. Might swap stock but all else is gtg.

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buy this one

>>32026441
Too late, you beat him to it and by beat, I mean you truly beat that thing with your b-hole.

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>>32026441
>dickgun
>has a decocker
>how ironic

>>32025706
No its half ass converted

How common/uncommon are black polymer Russian AK74m handguards and pistol grips in not beat to shit condition?

I'm wanting a nicer set but everything I'm finding are very much BFPU.

>>32026936
Alex has take-off black handguards. Looks mostly new.

http://www.russiansurplus.net/product_p/ak74-black-hg-pg.htm

>>32026964
Not bad considering a set of BFPU handguards are like $20

>No heatshield
Can I just take out the heat shield from my stock Arsenal black handguards and slap them in these?

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Don't pop into AKG's usually, but figured I'd maybe come and ask for some opinions...

>best bang for your buck AK?

>VEPR in 7.62 worth it, or better off just buying regular AKM?

>what's a good brand AK that's actually available (looking at you, definitive arms)

>also AK porn

>>32027010
>best bang for your buck AK?
lurk moar
>VEPR in 7.62 worth it, or better off just buying regular AKM?
lurk moar
>what's a good brand AK that's actually available (looking at you, definitive arms)
lurk moar

These are all literally asked multiple times in every single thread

>>32026985
you certainly can, they are interchangeable

>>32026358
Do it, mine arrived today. Set up a PA micro dot on my SLR-104. No complaints, the mount is light and rock solid once adjusted to the rifle.

>>32027039
>implying everyone wants to read every comment in AKG

>>32027087
>implying anyone wants to spoonfeed anons the answers to the same damn questions 10 times every thread
/akg/ helps those who help themselves

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>>32027010
>>32027010
>>best bang for your buck AK?
WASR
>>VEPR in 7.62 worth it, or better off just buying regular AKM?
Worth it if you need to have a reliable ak in that caliber and don't mind the extra weight
>>what's a good brand AK that's actually available (looking at you, definitive arms)
Arsenal (slr-104fr)
>>also AK porn

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>>32027087
Literally just ctrl+f "best" or "first"

If you can't find it go up to the OP post and click where it says "Old thread here >>#########" and then ctrl+f "best" or "first"

Or even better LITERALLY GOOGLE HOLY SHIT

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How much are Norinco MAK-90 chink ChiCom's selling for now a days with you youngins?

Are green mountain barrels any good? looking to replace my no name barrel on my 74?
http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/ak47-10gm-16-3-russian-5-45x39mm-1-8-ak47-1974-barrel/

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>>32027150
850-950ish

>>32027150
Pre this election they were about $700-$800, but during this election they jumped up an extra $100-$200. We'll see if they ever come back down to how much they were pre election

>>32027192
They're not bad but combloc barrels will always be better than US made barrels. Try to find a Bulgarian 74 barrel, they're fantastic and not too pricey.

>>32027039
>replying to anon in the first place

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>>32027173
nig nogs can have autos but we cant
>wtf

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>>32023174
>>32023223
>>32025500
I was thinking of getting the Troy rail, what makes it so hard to install?

>>32023306
excuse me what?

>>32023292
I love VZ-58s but I find the stock angle uncomfortable, is there a straighter stock I could put on one?

>>32026846
Notice the "" around converted

how much do parts kits usually cost to build if I pay a gunsmith? is it any cheaper to buy one than a rifle from my lgs?

im looking to buy an ras47, what mags work with it? pmag looks dumb, i want the good old steel mags.

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>>32024880
pretty much exactly what >>32024946 said

>>32028900
Everybody is just going to tell you not to get a RAS. They can't take the level of punishment Century's imports, DDI's kit builds, etc can.
As for steel mags, anything should work. Just stay away from Croatian and Korean.

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If anyone is interested.

There is an AK-9 20rnd mag in 9x39 available on a german auction site.
Worldwide shipping is possible if you ask and mags are unregulated in Germany and can be bought by anyone.

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=6149196

>>32025166
A wasr is made in Romania, century built guns are made in America

>>32023174
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/07/28/weekly-dtic-fleet-yaw-problem-improving-rifle-effectiveness/

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/05/18/fleet-yaw-in-action-and-ak-74-goodness-too/

>>32029193
Damn

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>>32024999
I bought a wasr and it has extraction issues, I don't want to over react but I feel like the guns fucked, I only got about 20 rounds through it before it would immediately either fail to extract at all or it would catch it before it can insert the next round. I don't truly know the break down of an AK, I don't know what the extractor looks like or to be honest what the gas block is. Help?

>>32029640
Take the bolt out and face the front of it directly towards you. The extractor is the spring loaded metal piece.

The upper handguard is attached to the gas tube. Follow the gas tube forward towards where it attaches to the thing that is attached to your barrel. That is the gas block. Check out your extractor and see if it looks damaged. Compare it to pics online

This isn't the first time I've heard of one of the new WASRs being shit right out of the box

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>>32029640
pictures of the bolt face, and the innards pls.
>might need new spring for bolt claw
>also what year

>>32029640
pushing on the extractor it should be quite stiff too btw.

>>32029640
Also check the parts for shards of mettel mine ha one stuck in the exractor and was causing issues.

>>32029640
also clean the fuck out of the chamber and bore before shooting it again.

>>32029655
>>32029660
>>32029783
Thanks guys I'm at work right now but I'll get back to you when I get home.

>>32029804
Put more rounds through the rifle, mine took about 150 to smooth out and wear in.

>>32029862
I've seen pics of gun shows in Europe where they have piles of milled receivers for stupid cheap. I think in most European countries they don't regulate the receiver/3rd hole stuff. And I doubt many people build kits over there so they're not very valuable to anyone.

>>32029862
>Milled for festivity

That is the most festive receiver I have ever seen.

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>>32026205
I love mine. Most people don't like polymer furniture and missing bayo lug/cleaning rod holder

Anyone ever order anything from rusweapons.com? I'm about to buy an Obzor from them if they're not sketchy

>>32029884
That just looks heavy .

>>32029955
And you didnt know the difference between 7.26x51 and 7.26x54r the other day, kill yourself newfag.

>>32029884
>safety, always off
Why do this

>>32030001
Because your a pussy. If the chamber isnt loaded, and they safety isnt off, you are a pussy. My brain is my safety.

>>32029987
Yor fucking dumb there is no difference not one .

>>32030008
You literally said that 7.62x51 is normal for an SVD, and that you were happy they werent making it in .308. Nigger you literally don't know what you are talking about. I only remember because I have a note on your trip to remind you every time I see you that you're fucking stupid.

>>32030007
I bet your father said the same thing when he removed the condom.

>>32030001
I always have the safety off on my AKs simply because if I ever needed to actually use it all I have to do is rock in a back and charge it, whereas disengaging the safety is an extra step that takes precious time in a self defense situation

That's just me though, I've got loaded 5.45 and 7.62 mags stashed around my house in strategic locations just in case I ever needed to bust out one of the big guns if something terrible happens at home

>>32030007
>your
Really? Why not just completely remove the safety lever. Then you won't have to worry about accidentally putting the rifle on safe.

>>32030016
Yup thats mee. I know nothing. Everyone knows the svd is .308 stupid

>>32030025
>rock in a back
*rock in a mag, auto correct changed it

what AR parts are usually discounted on black friday?

working on my first build and wondering if there's anything I should get now or if I should wait until then to get all of it

only have a completed lower at the moment

>>32030001
I had just shot off the mag like 2 minutes before I took the pic, pls no bully

>>32029955
Its like 9.5 lbs or so but it honestly makes the recoil impulse lighter so I'm ok with it

>>32030100
...not that the recoil impulse is bad too begin with

>>32030100
Im not knocking the rifle, i sure it shoots and functions great. You need plum rok stock and handguards tho

>>32030117
Yeah I would definitely love to get a true plum furniture set, won't be able to for a couple months at least though

Anyone have any recommendations as far as furniture goes for RPK style rifles? Can't seem to find much except for Krebs custom and Nightcore which are both keymod.

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>>32030138
Meh its not really a big deal plum just looks so nice. But if your low on scratch id buy just ammo and mags

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>>32030163
Black poly/triangle is the most powerful race in the world

Found someone running a sale on 40 round black polymer mags from Bulgaria for $10 a piece. Should I jump on this or are those mags shit?

>>32029880
This is correct for most Euro countries. Germany has a bill that will be voted on soon (and almost certainly pass) to classify the receiver as a gun too. It's going to fuck over the decoration gun market.

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Just a general question, but where do you guys find AKs that arent centur or IO shit? That's all I ever see being sold online/at gun shows

>>32030859
The mags with the bullets on the side of them are trash. I'm 99% sure that's what you're talking about

>>32030929
Buh bye deacts... That sucks, it'll probably get voted in in a country like Germany

>>32030985
Yeah... they're also restricting civilians to 5 rd. mags or something to that effect. Really pissing off a lot of the retailers for military collectibles.

>>32030958
I've never seen anything other tan Century or IO at my LGSs and gun shows, other than .22 conversions.

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>>32031163
its sucks man, where do all the other anons get nice saigas and surplus shit?

>>32023174
Fuck me the top one would look good with a suppressor

>>32031182
my favorite LGS does have Saiga 12 drums stocks that I'm thinking of picking up for later.

>>32031203
drums and stocks*

>>32029953
Anyone?

>>32031214
Never heard of it, may man. Diggin the jean-shorts though.

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Anyone know anything about this supposed Russian flash hider?

>>32031558
>russian
>clearly says "made in USA"

>>32031569
Is this bait?

>>32031558
Is that the one with baffles?

>>32031582
No. it's just like the Bulgarian 4 piece hider but narrower and longer

>>32031582
Never mind, I believe it's manufactured by Red Heat, some tactics outfit out of Russian

>>32031675
Oh, neat. I know the owner.
Products will be available here around Shot Show.

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I finally get to play.

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>>32031739
Initial impressions:
RSB looks canted to me. How bad does it look to you guys?

Bakelite mags have slight wobble. Plums are tight as shit, circle 10 is tight as shit too.

Non-chromed US brake. Stiff as shit controls on the mag release and folding mechanism in particular.

>>32031771
Take the gas tube off and take the same shot.
Min was stiff too when it was new it will work in.

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>>32031771
Like this

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>>32031875

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>>32031887

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>>32031771
It's hard to tell if it's just the angle or a real cant.
Tried to line it out in paint.

https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/762x39mm-40-round-polymer-magazine-made-in-bulgaria-736211760999.do?sortby=ourPicksAscend&refType=&from=fn

These mags any good? I've heard mixed things about them but kinda want to try some out after shooting my buddy's 40 round PMags in his AR

>>32031897
>>32031802
Gonna take me a bit to get it off. The tube is tight as shit. I can slide some rather thick card paper through one side and not the other though.

>>32031908
You should save up and get some proper bakelite or steel 40-rounders.

And don't buy from CTD.

>>32031924
What's wrong with CTD? I've bought lots of stuff there...

>>32031875
I wish they still imported or manufactured these

>>32031934
They played a large part in fucking up ammo prices a few years back.

>>32031839
Yeah, it's not coming off. Lever comes up with the help of the bolt carrier, but I have to beat it back down with a mallet, and nothing gets the tube off. I'm sure it's canted though because even notebook paper won't go in the right side.

On a side note plums are practically locking up the mag release. I have to beat it to get them loose as well. Work them in and out for a while or file part of the mag?

>>32031988
Yeah I know they jacked up their prices during the 2013 panic, but I never thought of it as a big deal since I saw PMC 5.56 going for $12 a box just about everywhere. I mostly go there for the low price shipping and cheap magazines.

>>32032009
CDNN has better prices on mags right now I think

>>32032002
Definitely work them in do not file.

>>32032009
It'd be one thing if they just jacked up prices since a lot of people did, but the moment the news came in about Sandy Hook, CTD cancelled everyone's pending orders with stuff like mags and ammo before they relisted the same stuff at insane prices. Think "$99.99 USGI 30-round AR mag" insane.

>>32032002
>Lever comes up with the help of the bolt carrier

If you have a cleaning kit in the buttstock there is a slot in the cleaning kit tube that is made just for turning the lever up and down.

Do you know that once you turn the lever up you have to line it up just right for the gas tube to slide up and out?

Not calling you stupid or anything, just don't know if this is your first AK or not.

>>32032046
I think they did that with guns too. Fuck CTD.

Spot welder and press get here monday. Wish me luck, hopefully I don't fuck up my AMD65 build

>>32032046
Well that's really fucked up

Guess I won't be buying more shit from them then, that's awful.

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>>32032061
I had a Tantal years ago, but yeah, it's been a while. I got it loose now. Had to pry under the handguard with the cleaning kit's screwdriver.

I think K-var was mad I sent them the first rifle back so they sent me the most canted piece of shit they had.

>>32032109
Lols

>>32032109
Try the lines in paint, see how they look.

>>32032133
Definitely crooked. I can see just looking from the top. If I line up the front and rear sight, then the muzzle break is off center. If I line up the front sight and the brake, the rear sight is off center, and if I line up the rear sight and brake, the front sight is off center.

>>32031771
Paint is the wrong shade of black.. Trash it

This seems legit http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287103

>>32032109
i wish I had saved the pictures from my canted RSB 104ur. It was way worse than that. The whole barrel assembly was twisted. I sold it and bought another and the replacement is nearly perfect.

>>32032506
104FR. I bought a 104ur recently too, just a touched canted but straight enough that it doesn't be bother me. I sure miss the assembly quality of the 2008-2012 rifles even bough the paint was shittier

>>32032045
Thanks. After about 50 insertions I can get them out hitting the mag release less hard with the mallet, but it's still nearly impossible to do with fingers. Another 20 minutes and they should be good.

>>32032289
Interesting.

>>32032525
How would you compare it to this one? Better or worse? I don't mind moving the front sight over a turn or two, but if it's right next to the ear I'd be a bit salty.

>>32032615
The one bad 104FR I had was a good deal worse than yours, maybe a full twice as canted lol. Getting the dust cover on was a kind of difficult, I had to slap the gas tube to get it to seat. The gas tube itself was twisted a good 10 degrees. I'm sure it would function but...

>>32029072
i wont be shooting everyday, i just heard they have malfunctions once in a while with certain mags. not gunna go crazy with it, its just an ak to have i can shoot once in a while.

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PSA AK-47 GB2

> Not to be satisfied with just a good AK, we kept improving and now are proud to announce our PSAK-47 GB2 rifle with a billet steel barrel block (front trunion) and bolt.

I don't know anything about AK's does this mean its less shit or what?

>>32032731
I meant with your new one that's slightly canted.

>>32032826
Oh..a little less than yours. It's ard notice it unless you really bear down and get a bead on it. It's easy to exaggerate the cant if it's not sitting level on something.

>>32024973
WASR 10, probably the most underated gun on the market right now. I've put at least 6k rounds through mine. Never jammed and has never missed.

>>32032826
FWIW yours looks to be shoot the shit out of it and enjoy level cant. Sure having straight ones is nice, but it's superficial

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>>32032930
Thanks man, have an image of the piece of shit century Tantal I got rid of.=. Now I just have to take it shooting Monday and see how far I need to push my sight.

I might get an RPK sight so my autism can have the front post centered.

GUYS I JUST ORDERED MY FIRST AK!!!!!!

I got an RAS-47 and a bunch of promags.

>>32033095
I'm sorry.

>>32032802
Billet could be good. Milspec for AK front trunnions is a heat-treated milled forging. Some of the "made in 'Murika" builders are using cast trunnions which are SHIT.

We'll see when someone does a review. Otherwise we don't know any more than you do about it.

I have heard that a lot of drum type AK mags that have hit the market recently are of poor quality. Can anyone elaborate, and tell us what's good and what's bad in the world of drum mags? Thanks.

>>32033124
About what? The guy at Cabelas said it is one of their best selling AKs in the US.

>>32033195
hahaha

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>>32033182
stay away from korean mags (otherwise known as KCI, or "asian"). Chinese mags are fine.

>>32032802
>>32033176
Was the one AKOU reviewed a GB2 or an earlier model? AKOU beat the living shit out of the PSAK-47 and so far it's been the only American-made AK to pass their test.

>>32033195
>>32033095
You gotta try harder than this

>>32033095
Bait of inferior quality

>>32031739
I wish people like you would just use black, or maybe plum mags.
Bakes just look like ass without some wood.

>>32033249
>Was the one AKOU reviewed a GB2

Yes.

>>32033282
When I get home tonight I'll upload pics. Its fucking sweet.

>>32033207
Okay. Dumb question: will all the Korean drums be marked as such?

I've seen at recent gun shows some drums sold packaged in unmarked plastic bags with a clear plastic back plate (seemed very lightweight and insubstantial and not very well made), drums in red boxes marked "Red Army Standard" of uncertain origin (had a metal back plate and also seemed very light and insubstantial). These are the bad ones, right?

Also,

>the cutie with the AKSU74

I think I'm in love. You're going to tell me that "she" has a dick, aren't you?

>>32023584
>Do any of you fags have any experience with them?
Yeah, and like every ak wire folder, they're garbage that should be replaced ASAP.
The vz58 has the only wire folder that actually feels and works pretty ok.
Not sure what's worse feeling, an underfolder or ak wire folder.

>>32033302
>You're going to tell me that "she" has a dick, aren't you?
yep. probably bigger than yours. and not just long, but girth for days.

>>32033289
I like the contrast.

If it makes you feel any better I do plan to turn it into an 80s style triangle folder with a bit of flare to it. Got that Maadi blue grip too.

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>>32033333
>I like the contrast.
You're on the edge of an extremely thin line between contrast and outright mismatching.

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>>32033358
You're exaggerating.

Last question to bug everyone with, but is it worth it to switch out the US made brake with a chromed Bulgarian brake?

>>32033321
In terms of usability:

Hungarian/Egyptian "crutch" folder < East German/Romy/Polish wire folder < MP40 style underfolder < pressed steel triangle folder < AK100 style polymer folder with steel hinge and steel latch mechanism

I find the underfolders barely tolerable if wrapped carefully in paracord and triangle folders decisively superior. The "crutch" type folders and wire folders are horrid things that make the rifle--already a 75 year old iron sight design--that much harder to use efficiently under stress. I know some people love the looks of the various folders but for me the Bulgy/Russian triangle is the absolute minimum I'm willing to pay for. Otherwise the original wood is perfectly okay for the purpose of the rifle.

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>>32033378
>that Tigr

>>32033404
Hopefully we get them soon

>>32033404
>>32033412
Frankly, in that configuration with the shorter unthreaded barrel, I don't even want one unless the price is very right.

>>32033421
>Frankly
Ian?

>>32033441
anon4lyfe for a reason.

>>32033333
Quints confirm good contrast

>>32033379
And even a poly stock vs a poly folder, the sling points on a fixed stock make the sling so much better feeling to me.

>>32033474
dubs etc confirm shit on boards populated by adults

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I'm clueless about the AK market, has DDI put out good rifles previously? I'm really digging their newest one and the price point is attractive to me, it'd also be my first AK. Would love to SBR it to have a AK-105 look-alike.

>>32031182
>where do all the other anons get nice saigas and surplus shit?
hop back a few years in your time machine and maybe you can get some too

>>32033504
AKOU has one for testing. Extractor literally snapped off after about 500 rds.

>>32033504
The DDI rifle Rob Ski reviewed did not do well.

I am somewhat saddened by this because I like the gas block front sight + flash suppressor + folder configurations they offer, which are non-trivial to add to a build that starts with a parts kit.

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>>32033722

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Just got that patch yesterday

>>32033736
>leaving the rubber shit on the charging handle

Have you ever even shot that gun? Holy shit you should be embarrassed.

>>32033379
>Hungarian/Egyptian "crutch" folder < East German/Romy/Polish wire folder < MP40 style underfolder

Underfolder <<<<<<<<< Crutch = Wire <<<<<<<<< Triangle <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< AK100 sidefolder

Does anyone know where/if the fixed stock "plum" polymer AK-74's saw any action? I've seen a ton of them in the Ukrainian conflict, some pictures of them (well, mixed-furniture fixed stocks) used by MVD in Chechnya, and rumors of them appearing in Afghanistan, but otherwise not much info. It seems that quite a few were made, where did they go?

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>>32033326
>tfw my dream suchka girl is a ladyboy
D:

>>32033827
>where did they go?
To RGuns :^)

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I just traded around 1000 rounds of brass PPU 5.56 (every last round of 5.56 that I had) for two sealed tins of 7n6. I never shot my AR very much anyway anymore so eh whatever

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>>32033302
korean drums have a clear back plate

pomupomu is a certified woman and a hardcore military otaku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E0e6oBo2dE

>>32032802
I'm guessing the fact that they're advertising this means it's an upgrade? So they were previously using cast trunnions, which are trash. Billet is an improvement but forged is still king. Keep in mind the bolt lugs are machined into the front trunnion so it's very important for the front trunnion to be one of the toughest parts on the gun.

>>32033908
>:^)
Aw shit, something wrong with RGuns?

is muzzle brake wobble normal? My wasr wobbles and im wondering if this is bad man.

>>32034207
No. I was just making fun at the fact RGuns has had a fair supply of their Izhmash plum 74 kits for many years. Implying that the majority of plum fixed stock 74s ended up there.

In truth I'm not entirely sure on were the plum fixed stock 74s went. I would speculate that since it was only a short time after their development the 74M was introduced, many of them ended up as overstock in satellite countries or were packed into warehouses.Which would explain why there are so many in Ukraine.

>>32034309
It's normal.

New thread

>>32034379

>>32034379

>>32034379

>>32033722
Is this a 100 series rail?

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Any idea where I can get one of these in real life? I really like the look of it.

>>32033563
They dont start as parts kits anymore, these ones are the all American parts ones.

>>32036020
I'm aware, but if you want a rifle that configuration that DDI didn't build, you pretty much have to start with a parts kit--and then get a triangle folder. And obtain the special receiver that goes with that. And get the gas block front sight...

>>32036067
Ah yeah I see, the only other manufacture who does the kinda build you looking for is arsenal and right now they are not importing stamped 7.62 aks, I think the DDI folders are supposed to be 50 dollars more(think they said that on akfiles but not sure) that the fixed stock guns, so for 50 dollars more that's a really good deal considering the akbuilder trunnions and triangle stocks are 174 dollars and made in taiwan.