Technical Tuesday

>>32006120
I gotta wonder how worthwhile those are. I mean, it'd take a lot of time and effort, and they don't look that good, but they keep building them, so maybe they're more practical than they look.

>>32006152
I wonder how bulletproof they are? I cant imagine the can get hold of the right steel

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>>32006158
They can probably take small arms fire.
I wouldn't want to chance an rpg in one though.

>>32006165
>small arms fire
Thats what Im thinking about, the steel doesnt look particularily thick, and its probably just construction steel.
wouldnt rifles shoot through that stuff

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>>32006173
It must depend on the vehicle.
Some use concrete and shit for more protection.
Some have really nice angled surfaces.
Some are just metal boxes.

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>>32006179
On that note, some of them are just bombs anyway, so they might not be built to last.

>>32006179
If RPGs would just bounce off of the angled armor where do you aim?

>>32006173
Your choices are "won't stop bullets and shrapnel" or "might stop bullets and shrapnel." Take your pick.

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>>32006250
Wherever looks flattest I guess, or the wheels/ground.

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Now I'm trying to think of different ways to make armour. I just though of this like two seconds ago, but imagine making box steel segments, weld a panel at the bottom to turn it into a cup sort of thing, then fill it up with sand, and weld a metal lid that goes over the edge a bit, so you can slot it into a panel on the vehicle.

Better yet maybe, just using tube or pipe steel, because of the no flat surfaces thing.

If a round penetrates the armour segment, you can quickly replace them, then the militia armourer or whoever can just fill it up again through the bullet hole, and weld an offcut of metal over the top.

I figure that way, you can save on some metal, which is probably much more valuable a commodity in a civil war, and sand's got that whole non-Newtonian shit going for it, dunno if the mix of the two materials is beneficial or not, different attributes and all.

Going with the value thing, I'm guessing pipes would win again, I imagine they're more readily available.

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>>32006388
If you had a civil war in the developed world, I imagine granite benchtops would be pretty nifty for armour too, although the weight of them would limit their uses.

>>32006396
granite countertops are retarded, i sold them in hs. heavy to the point they can damage floors, pourous so they require constant cleaning and sealing ( which no1 does) and just expensive af

i wouldnt want to take granite spalling to the dome

>>32006437
How about a granite trebuchet, try to hurl benchtops on top of tanks?

>>32006004
>1280x856
My dad sold his old Toyota to some hadji a few years back. The guy said he likes to fix them up and then they sell like hotcakes in the Middle East. I hope the truck was lucky enough to live up to it's dreams of being a tank.

>>32006492
Shit, that reminds me of that guy, a plumber or something, who sold his and started getting death threats because it was photographed in Syria and they hadn't taken off his business number or name from the side.

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>>32006492
>>32006535
Ooh, found it!

>>32006054
>ostwind reporting

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gonna dump what I have

>>32006632
what kind of truck is that? i really like the look of it.

>>32006654
gaz-21

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>Haval wants to be a technical but the chinks won't let him

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Hell of a coincidence,

But if anybody has any academic material relating to their development or their debut in the last years of the Libyan-Chadian War, pls share. Am trying to write a final paper on low-end, low-cost, and highly-successful tactics in postcolonial African warfare.

>>32006388
Water can als be quite effective in stopping bullets. Could be even more effective since there is no dead space in between the sand particles, hence higher density. I also read somewhere that non-homogenous armour is harder to penetrate by an EFP/shaped charge.
Pipe sections have the disadvantage that they create a thinly armoured channel along the welds if they are stacked on top of each other. Rectangular profiles would give you a more uniform thickness everywhere.

>>32006444
We Endor now

>>32005982
Why are they called technicals? Seems vague.

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>>32005982

What could possibly go wrong.

>>32006658
Needs more track.

>>32006938
Milspeak is like martian

>>32006651
>road tyres

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US take on 105mm SPH

>>32006627
I need dis

Out of curiosity, is there any documentation of flying "technicals"?

I'm currently working out what sorts of MG's one could mount to a Kolb Firefly. Something like a 240 slung under the cockpit seems viable, as long as the pilot isn't too fat.

>>32006550
Damn that's hilarious, but seriously.....how inconsiderate can isis be?

>>32007539
>how inconsiderate can ISIS be
>hey taqbir, this truck that we need has some guy's business on it. I sure hope that nobody thinks the poor guy harbors similar sentiments that we do
>Yeah let's not use it cause it might end up real bad for that guy

>>32007521
There was that light aircraft used in that random African conflict, think it was the Biafran one.
Or the guy who strapped Bazookas to his cub spotter aircraft during World War Two. I think the Germans may have tried something similar with Me 108's.

>>32007521
Only thing I know of is the Swedish count who mounted rocket pods on Cessnas during the Biafran war and John plaster mentions SOG men firing CAR-15s with tracers out of bird dog observation planes that also had white phosphorus tickets for marking targets for air support.

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>>32007585
>air support marking plane

>>32006658
>tracked vehicle
but honestly pretty NEAT

>>32007521
Cartels have been using them for drugs but that's about it.

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>>32007705
ayyrabs are finally going into the drone age

>>32006591
Is that a BMP-1 hull?

>>32007771
what is the use for that thing?

>>32008099
>you know amad, I can manage to pick up 72 virgins with this ride

>>32008099
ackbar didnt even try with this. it looks like it would hold off against a light amount of small arms fire an thats it.

>>32005982
>>32005988
>>32005999
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>>32006012
>>32006021
>>32006038
Makes me stiff. nice pics

>>32006606
>guys!
>if we
>guys hey!
>if we use leafs from the suspensions of old trucks
>the bullets will /bounce/ off!
>guys?

>>32007705
>>32007771
Final, a weapon to surpass metal gear.

>>32008089
Cops used it to flush out the Dallas shooter when they couldn't negotiate with him. Worked very well.

>>32008563
I don't see the problem with this.

>>32006704
Unfortunately I don't have anything that can help you out but I am very interested in the subject. Please post your paper on here when you're done!

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Land battleships when?

>>32008768
>madmax

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Some of these honestly aren't far off from actual tanks. Old as fuck tanks, but still tanks

>>32006550
Now that's guerilla marketing.

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ITT : Fuck your suspension

>>32007810
No, MT-LB.

>>32008866
Germans had worse breakdown on their tanks and there are still enough wehraboos

>>32007605
Yeah.

Like a spotter aircraft for water bombers.. but instead of water, they drop napalm / rockets / HE bombs..

Super accurate old tech guidance.
>hope to god that the spotting plane doesn't mistake you for the bad guys..

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not really improvised, but similar in function

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>>32009088
and another version

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>>32009088
>>32009096
those are smexy

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>>32009028
Keep hating slavaboo

These threads please my autism but I can't help but think if they crash into something at even moderate speeds, wouldn't the gunner be 200% fucked? especially in cases like
>>32005982
>>32005999
>>32006487
>>32009088

>>32009025
definitely BMP look at the firing port, square air intake and ridged front.
Its a bmp hull on a truck cargo bed

The more interesting question is what are these plates used to armor cab side and bed?

>>32009182
yeah if you're a gunner you should probably sit down when the driver is speeding

>>32008599
how?

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>How much protection is too much protection?

>>32010400

>MG3 on ragshit vehicle

What the fuck

>>32007521
https://fightersweep.com/5228/inside-private-air-force-erik-prince/

There is blackwater, and the plane used in the Tulsa Race Riot.

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>>32010507
That thing is really huge.

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>>32006179
>same sand people, different galaxy

>>32010378
it had c4 strapped to it

>>32006938
Something to do with some group receiving funds for "technical support" or w/e and they spent it on trucks with guns in the back because it got past restrictions on buying real fighting vehicles.

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>>32011328
That's what SHE said.

>>32006938
Technically they work.

>>32006704
What the the success of these "tactics" is rooted in is the tribal mentality in that region. If these dudes did have Toyotas, they'd be using camels. These "tactics" are merely that of necessity.

>>32011652
*if these dudes didn't

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>>32011407
kek

>>32005982
HOW THE FUCK DO I GO AROUND IMPORTING A FUCKING NEW LAND CRUISER TO THE USA

FUCKKKK NNNNGGGG

>>32006651

>you see yuri
>gunner seat will always be warm, as we have positioned it on top of engine

>>32008294
Underrated

>>32010378
>attach a large bomb to robot
>drive robot up to where the sniper is hiding
>ALLAH AKBAR!

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>>32011652

>tribal mentality in that region

Probably, but that neither teaches us anything about light cavalry and tank-hunting techniques in third world countries, nor does it actually net me a grade in this class.

>if these dudes didn't have Toyotas, they'd be using camels

They had and did use camels, actually.

>These "tactics" are merely that of necessity.

You can make that argument of almost any military action, African or otherwise. How did they deploy their French-supplied MILAN launchers per vehicle? How did they organize individual fighting units? Under who? How did they coordinate and lead these forces across great distances and with particularly compelling results at Fada and Maaten al-Sarra? What was the extent of the US intelligence support to the Chadian factions fighting Gaddhafi? And how did the rest of the developing world see and further develop these tactics?

This is Africa, not Atlanta. Shit gets marvelously weird.

>>32013805
>This is Africa, not Atlanta. Shit gets marvelously weird.

Your picture proves this beyond any doubt. If I was drinking milk, it would be spraying out of my nose by now. Thankyou anon.

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>>32013954
Fun Fact: Apparently latest models of toyota were becoming too complicated for the region. Current insurgent fashion is Chinese Zhongxing Grand Tiger , mostly because its copy of early 90's era toyotas, purely analog without all the electronic garbage.

Funny enough, unlike toyota, chinese are actively using that fact to promote this car.

During asian motorshows, they had bigass screen looping movues from libya where the ZXs were used on big scale.

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>>32014706

>>32008768
a fucking train

>>32006635
>32nd Ukrainian Soccer Moms Brigade

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>>32013954

Avec plaisir. Have some moar afri/k/a insanity

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>>32008805
A7V pretty much was a technical. Most parts were made with hand tools and took 18 crewmen to operate. It was a piece of shit in practical terms, that's why they only ever made 20 of them.

>>32007585
MFI-17

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>>32010462
This is beautiful.

>>32013954
His picture is from a movie.

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>still don't know what missile these are

>>32006388
tubes would probably create shottraps

>>32010470
This doesnt actually not look bad, apart of the turret, i would love to have this thing standing in my garage, if i had a garage.

>>32009182
if youre ever a gunner and you crash youre fucked, also if youre a passenger and not strapped in (which is most likely) youre also fucked

>>32006704
dude chadian light infantry... some brass balled mother fucker figured out if you drive a hilux over a minefield fast enough you dont go boom

>>32013805
shit man there is some work floating around about the success of syrian anti tank teams/helicopters in the israli lebenese scuffle in the 80's. see if you can google it cause i dont care enough to do it for you

>>32016339
most likely home made

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>>32016463
Probably, but the launchers don't look homemade.
I'd settle for an ID on those.

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>>32016526
reminds me of this.

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>>32006596
They just keep upping their game.
Chemical tractors when?

I would trade my left nut for an AA gun

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>>32016654
Just gather some comrades and improvise.

>>32016671
Not sure that'd be too effective these days though.

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>>32009088
>>32009096
my body i ready

>>32016681
Just a single hit would cause big maintenance work and make the war even more costly.

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>>32016671
That's not nearly as fun

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>>32016681
Get more nuggets, it'll be fine.

Seriously though, it might do alright against helicopters.

>>32016708
Every second a helicopter is in the air is a miracle

>>32016693
Yeah, but the altitude the planes generally fly at is probably far too high for small arms. Dunno how high they fly when actually dropping the bombs though, but still.

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Sweet Jesus, somebody please put this thing on a Geo Tracker and call it a tank. The world would be a better place.

https://youtu.be/MH2xsQcIUYI

>>32006396
Actually this has be done in WW II by the us. They made a rubber-granitegrains composute material. Iirc it was over 2 times better at protection/weight than concrete

>>32016722
Yeah but that's WWII, I'm talking about today. It was common to do low-altitude bombing back then.

>>32016739
Against small arms fire and even 20mm it still has neat protection. Also uts pretty cheap and easy to produce in urban areas, so in urban warfare and civil war this could be an very interdasting opshin.

>>32016741
I only thin at planetside 2.

This is an flash in my eyes and an reallife harasser would be neat.

Just imagine an reallife harasser with an 20mm autocannon

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>>32016785
What in the fuck are you trying to say?

>>32016739
Today? If you're talking a civil war in a fully industrialized nation, you can forget about ANY homebrew armor being effective. And solid granite would actually be a fairly useless armor. It might stop a bullet or two, but the problem with it is that it's just too brittle. It would very quickly crack and break.

>>32016808
Thats why you put granite grains inside of an rubber matrix. This way you improve standingtime of your armor by a lot

>>32016806
Just google planetside 2 flash or harasser.

>>32016634
they have had the postal service for a while now, so the cemtractors should be here soon

>>32016526
>Whipping this through the streets
>mAh boi Sergei is on the back
>Enemy position just sees the front of a sedan approaching
>Wrench the wheel hard left
>Pull hand brake
>Eurobeat intensifies
>Sergei opens up with the DShK
>180 degree hand brake turn and machine gun coverage
>Speed off with Sergei covering your rear
I could see this being a perfect hit and run vehicle.

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>>32010462
The hero Mosul deserves

>>32016913
>hit bump
>'where is my oil pan'

>>32017652
i like that this meme is still around

>>32014826
Trains are confined to tracks. These would be infinitely more mobile and versatile.

>>32013805
>that one guy in the front with a doll on his necklace

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>>32007577


>There was that light aircraft used in that random African conflict, think it was the Biafran one
Carl Gustav von Rosen. He also did the same thing to a couple of surplus B-25's and a B-26
http://www.mercenary-wars.net/biafra/

>Or the guy who strapped Bazookas to his cub spotter aircraft during World War Two. I think the Germans may have tried something similar with Me 108's.

Meet Bazooka Charlie

>>32016831
It was bulky and less weight effective than steel, so not really suitable for land warfare. The Bongs invented it and called it plastic armour. Initially they used granite, but later discovered any rock would do.

>>32016806

he's very poorly referencing a vehicle from the video game planetside 2, which was an ATV that could be fitted with a cannon

>>32016831
Been saying for a while use ultra fine sand (sand blasting) mixed into high test/heat silicone (engine gasket) laminating balistic cloth layers (kevlar/carbon fiber from boat building supply).
Wrap that around some ceramic plates (floor tile) with epoxy and truck bed liner coat the whole thing (truck bed the ceramic before epoxy/cloth wrap too a step most miss). Look what it does to brick.
https://youtu.be/VSvVy6oiMZI

>>32020152
Or, get this, you can use steel which is cheaper and better.

>>32007585
>Swedish count who mounted rocket pods on Cessnas during the Biafran war

This may be one of my favorite collection of words ever.

>>32006250
>The wheels.

I'd just put enough steel around to stop small arms and even that'd be a stretch, good luck trying to drive your 150hp hilux with 15 tons of steel on it and no suspension.

>>32006004
Are those bmd turrets attached to pickup trucks.....

>>32006651
Mad Maxim

I was thinking technicals are really too under armored to get right in the action and too small for artillery but would be perfect for 155mm mortar.

They could be quite an effective force if you had a 100 or so driving around, could get to areas quick and lay down some hefty fire.

Or maybe a stabilised machine gun with optics, so it can hang far back.

>>32008414
It is a VBIED, it only needs to last one way.
see here >>32008294

>>32010514
German arms support for the Pesh. I heard they like the MG3 a lot.

>>32006596

that looks straight out of the fucking acme uncatalogued.

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>>32008768
>It doesn't need to turn, it will drive straight to Berlin"

>>32006596

>hi, im johnny knoxville, and we're going to the moon!

>>32007705
that looks like a fucking tonka truck

>>32007705
The ayatolla graphic on the front is pure tits.

>>32006004

Is that still a technical?

Technically?

>>32008563
Well, it is really good quality steel.

I'm actually planning out building a technical out of an old f150 I've got. Just trying to figure out how to mount something and still have it be able to bump fire, I was thinking some kind of spring system. Don't know how retarded it will be but hopefully it works

>>32006054
That's damned nice

>>32006012
>"slav" painted on the door

I know it's some sand rune, but I kek'd anyway.

>>32006152
>>32006158
Most of these are just bomb cars right? only have to drive close enough to detonate

>>32005988
Do they have any idea how to direct the fire on that? I have to assume they are just shooting vaguely at something and hoping to get lucky.

>>32006179
Holy fuck, those poor tires.

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>>32006627
I can't be the only one who saw this.

>>32007705
Irans entry to BattleBots?

>>32008798
Only a cheese eating surrender monkey would put not one but two anchors on a tank.

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>>32019702
When life gives you lemons, strap rocket launchers to them.

>>32007771
kek

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I thought I had a picture of a technical with one of those huge homemade rifles they make in Syria on it, but I can't find it now.
Anyone know what I mean?
Have another "air technical" either way.

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>>32027668
I found this, same concept different picture.

>>32008820
rofl

>technically tuesday
wait i thought it was thursday wtf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtcLh_8eOic&list=PLnGBcsajZuOCOvRya_zbkCEXkW2h1yEmz