Middle East Thread "MiG-29KR EDITION"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npojOYacPz8

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https://www.rt.com/news/366925-putin-trump-phone-call/

>Bad goys.

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>MiG-31 fighter jets to Syria

>>31998099
sauce on that

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>>31998128

>>31998139

Ummm, is that suppose to be MiG-31 under this tarpaulin?
Because its look veeery similar to just bunch of S-125 Neva SAM missiles...

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>>31998161

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-33_(missile)

Turkey is really trying to advance on Raqqa.They've been pounding Al-Bab hard recently. However I wonder how they'll even reach the city considering they'll have to cut off the SAA's advance near Dayr Hafir if they'd attempt to use the Halap Ar Raqqah road as a corridor to advance through.

>>31997110
The new ISIS vid is item unavailable. got a different link?

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ISIS sniper team, Mosul

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ISIS AUG, Mosul.

Damn the new ISIS vid has tons of webm material, i'll have to make some.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3934470/Donald-Trump-believed-direct-descendant-Rurik-Viking-established-Russian-state.html

>>31998609

Any good ones of them losing body parts?

>>31998763
>>31998838
>>31998874

>21st century warfare is fought by stone age sand niggers using machines made by White men as battering rams

lol

>>31998913
its morally questionable, but SVBIEDs are quite good. Airstrike without the plane, hand delivered.

>>31997110

Your link doesn't work. Can you post the correct one?

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>ISIS sniper dresses up in a Ghille suit to look like a l337 sniper
>in an urban environment
>and sticks the barrel out the window
wew lad

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>>31999072

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>>31999083

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Who needs iron sights anyways?

>>31999100
I wonder where he got that weapon from? Looks oddly familiar

>>31998609
>>31998583
(((who))) gave them these weapons?

>>31999152
Russia

>>31999247
Indonesia

>>31999247
sniper rifle probably taken from Iraqi army.

AUG was first seem in Syria then trickled around, black market.

>>31998985
it is the correct one. I was watching it as they removed it, fuckers

>>31999247
We better start blaming Russia every time something that looks like an AK turn up in hands of terrorist.

>>31998161
>>31998168

If it is an R-33, we know why it's there.

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Mosul, counterattack

>>31999247
Are you retarded?

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>>31998513
I guess Al Bab is one of the most important question marks. Will IS defend it or leave for counter attacks to protect Raqqa.
If it falls quickly it puts Turkish FSA basically just north of Kuweires, this is going be awkward.

The SAA still has a siege to win in Aleppo. What if for example after all the backroom dealing between Turkey and Russia they can't stop rouge FSA(like Sham legion) from shelling Kuweires or worse attacking SAA outposts and what's IS and the SDF going do in the meantime. Dis goin b gud

>>31999959
YPG in Afrin really dropped the ball there.

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>>31998911

>that dude who gets flung out of the turret like a wet noodle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVqi04MoQAs&feature=youtu.be

Found this link to the new ISIS vid. And every other thread someone asks about the validity of VBIEDs...

>>31999100
Aiming is cheating.

>>31999152
Did you ever think they may have captured shit-tons of american equipment when they took Mosul? When thousands of IA and IP threw down all their equipment when daesh first came in in 2014

>>31999355
>>31999440
Russia actively sold this weaponry to the region.

America and Austria didn't necessarily.

>>31999959
The FSA is about to be stonewalled for months.

Politics beat capability.

>>31999970
>hurdur small Kurdish canton should beat Turkey's military + FSA

>>32000043
That poor fucking BMP crew, did you see how the gunner tried in his final act to hit the VBIED with the Grom gun and missed?

Fuck.

>>32000043
Wow one anecdote!

>>32001276
I take this back. Holy fuck

>>32000043
These are ISIS' elites. They are BTFO the Iraqis, but we all know how this battle will end with US air support

>>31999247
CIA

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big dakka

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ironydude with diy bmp

>>32001530
>has had sex with 5 young boys and 6 goats
>will be killed in an airstrike in the near future
>dislikes: small talk

https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/798211967894908928
Kurds miss a SVBIED with a Milan, but French SF hits it with a Javelin

Thought this was interesting. Old school jaded jihadist, resenting everything he's ever done.

Fought in Afghanistan, Kashmir, and Burma, and recruited for Bosnia and Chechnya.

https://youtu.be/zwpiI18TBdE

>>32001381
between the militias and kurds and isf there is something like 100,000 fighters on the iraqi side. Iraqi gov claims about 12-15k isis fighters in mosul, which personally sounds super fucking high. No matter how proficient they are they are vastly outnumbered. I know iraqis are shit for fighting and that war isnt about body counts, but it seems like they could soak up """martyrs""" for days and not be hurting. I also really wonder about daeshs capacity to throw vbieds at them day after day. It just doesnt seem sustainable.

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>tfw the Jews are trying to trick the goys into joining ISIS with (((tourism)))

>>31999959
I kind of got a feel for how the FSA and Turks are gonna advance along Al Bab and towards raqqa when I spoke with a Turkish diplomat who specializes in Syria/Iraq today. The idea is to coordinate with the SAA where the FSA is going to advance. The main concern of the Turks isn't Sham legion starting shit, but if the SAA really starts to threaten the Turkish led advance on Raqqa. It may be that the SAA is going to allow the rebels to advance along the Galapagos Ar Raqqa road until they can establish another supply corridor, but that's just my opinion. He said the main focus of Turkey is ISIL, so they don't really care about any other actor (his words not mine and he is basically paraphrasing what the government states). It obviously isn't a great answer but I don't expect a diplomat posted to Canada to comment on ongoing military operations in Syria more so than he already did.

>>32003529
oh and for those who want to know, the Turkish government doesn't see the Assad and the Syrian Arab Republic as a state actor anymore, their view is that all actors inside Syria are illegitimate. It was interesting considering that in the same breath the diplomat said that the SAA has good air defense capabilities and that they were coordinating with them to allow for airstrikes on Al Bab

>>32004035
>SAA has good air defense capabilities
Russia is their air defence to a very large extent, as well as all the gear they've sold to the SAA proper of course. But if Russia wasn't there on the ground I doubt the SAA operated stuff would be given anything close to the same consideration.

>>31999072
This is just a propaganda shot
When he racks the bolt back you can see it doesnt even have any ammo in it
>>32002190
My question is relevant to this video
How would /k/ make ISISs VBIEDs more effective and resistant to the only thing that seems to stop them, ATGMs?
It seems that guiding your VBIEDs through the use of drones to the best target area would yield best results
Could you stop the ATGMs through an extra length version of slat armor? Like two or three feet from the car body?
Or would sticking a night vision camera on a SVBIED or drone work better?

>>32004616
Or would sticking a night vision camera on a SVBIED or drone work better?
*and using it at night?

Heres a video of Iraqis killing and then using a tank to run over a kid
https://twitter.com/BarzanSadiq/status/797038136463392768

>>32004616
t. ISISfag

>>32003529
>He said the main focus of Turkey is ISIL
Sure he would say this and it's not entirely untrue but the main reason Turkey entered the war was because the YPG was scaring the shit out of them.

That said I wouldn't underestimate IS either. After all their northern Aleppo loses they continue to pull back as if they are saving for a last ditch offensive.

>>32000043
>removed again

I'll never watch it until the end it seems

cruise missiles are back on the menu boys

>>31998763
>C&C_Generals.webm

>>31998874
Why the fuck is that BMP not backing away like the Hmmvw did?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8e5_1479188952

jump on it if you haven't watched before it gets deleted, it's the video of the OP

>>32005418
My initial thoughts as well. Then I remembered this is a video from smackdown-in-the-middle Arabia where some untrained militia-man is driving the BMP and has probably has very poor control over his vehicle.

>>32005478
True.
But then again, a BMP is not some highly advanced machine and the basics like backwards and forwards driving shouldn't be that hard.
I mean, it was designed to be driven by poorly trained soviet conscripts.
It just feels strange, but maybe the impact of the ram attack damaged the track or something

why do I have to believe there are only 5000 jihadists in mosul when there is like a pool of up to 1 million people in the city? Can't they muster a shitload of people in there?

>>32001823
for ZSU

>>32005418
Possibly concussed from the impact or has no idea what's happening

>>32005523
True. Its not like that the driver has much of a view to the sides.

>>32005503
Give people you've been terrorizing guns and they might turn on you

>>32005551
>you've been terrorizing

They didn't. Most if not all people left in the city are Sunni and most if not all of them at least silently support IS and prefer them to the Kurd/Shia(Iranian)-Government

>>32005486
Poor morale, poor cohesion, poor leadership. Being an Arab in general, and being a militiaman at that, seems like a bad combination for fighting as an effective force or actually keeping yourself alive in a combat zone. I'm betting conscript would outperform these guys by a lot.

Arabs are pretty good at rampant retaliation, being unnecessarily cruel and raping and destroying civilized people and areas, see also >>32004667

Without my added vitriol is is indeed possible that the impact shock disoriented the driver/crew of the BMP. These things are not designed for shock absorption from a crash I believe, that shit would fuck you up. Nonetheless a "ALLUAH ACKBAR HE'S GOING TO RAM US ABDULLAK" followed by back away before the hit would have been more appropriate.

Man the Turks are on a blitzkrieg atm, gonna be interesting how this al bab shit plays out

>>32005486
BMPs tend to lurch forward ridiculously as well, I've driven one

Great mobile vehicle but they have been horribly obsolete for decades

>>32005684
seems like things are heating up in aleppo aswell. It's happening

>>32005684
They have to if they want to cut off the Kurds at Afrin.

>>32005503
Pretty sure the place has depopulated like much of Aleppo to around 500k at this point, maybe even lower. The was a reason IS was rampantly punishing/torturing civilians who attempted to escape the city. The only ones left legitimately couldn't leave or are IS sympathizers.

>>32006431
They will, ypg especially Afrin ypg simply cannot compete with the might and advances.

>>32001236
Except the us did.

Did you miss out on the entire cold war, anon?

>>31998931

>but SVBIEDs are quite good

Not against competent forces. In fact, competent force dont use SVBIED's due to the fact that the vehicle itself is more of a combat multiplier moving around said forces and acting as a weapons platform, then just stuffing it full of bombs.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaqWgFw6t0Y

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\golfclap

>>32006969
>miss target not only once, but twice

get your shit together ivan

>>32003068
If you actually try to book a vacation to syria or Iraq, you will hit a brick wall. I tried once for shits and giggles and got nothing but travel advisories etc.

>>32007151
>book a vacation to syria or Iraq,

You obviously book a flight to a neighboring and "save" country like Turkey, Iran, Libanon etc.

>>32006573
I'd disagree. Like said earlier, it's a hand delivered air strike at the direction of infantry. "Competent" forces also don't find suicide bombing very kosher so it's hard to make the comparison. But yeah well equipped forces don't use it since good artillery support and air support fill the same role.

In ISIS' context who gives a fuck about a pickup truck or an old BMP? They can use the BMP to try and battle taxi to an enemy position and just get slaughtered, or fill the BMP with anfo and blow the position up entirely.

>>31999403
>that empty drum reacting to a shockwave.

>>32007188
Now mind you forces facing them are getting more adept at stopping them, lots of vbieds fail outright. But regardless if you throw these single man crewed vbieds and they do succeed you just did a job that may have cost you entire platoons and other vehicles.

>>31997110
So what's going to happen first, the plane crashing due to poor design and maintenance or the engine melting?

>>32005440

Fuck, deleted. Why?

>>32007289
because liveleak is not ok with propaganda

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>>31998931
>but SVBIEDs are quite good

You must be retarded or completely ignorant of modern warfare if you think this is true for any competent army.

Modern mechanized forces have the standoff firepower to literally FUCKING ANNIHILATE any target within a 4 km radius of their own positions, and you think a pick-up truck with some bolt on sheet metal plate and a driver is somehow an effective weapon?

Nigger, which planet are you from? Why do you think tanks exist, and have 1 meter of armor and superior mobility?

The only reason they can get away with these primitive battlefield weapons is because the opposing forces are equally retarded and can't function like a normal military or use their heavy weapons with any proficiency. A simple fucking burst from a .50 caliber NSV or M2 Browning could utterly shred an IED from 1,000 yards.

I absolutely LOATHE how you children, watching this shitfest, are going to form an impression that this is how war is actually fought.

You niggers don't understand that WW2 was fought with sophistication not even remotely comparable to what the retarded sand niggers are doing.

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>>32001236
>If a weapon is used by someone, it also means they were sold by the manufacturer or its allies to them.
Ah yes. Nazi Germany, back from the dead, supporting Syrian rebels.
You should write a book anon.

>>31999403

Is that an Apache firing on them?

>>32006969
>>32006979
You'd think they'd have beam riding bomb kits by now.

They have plenty of guided missiles that work that way, why not bombs?

>>32007289
>Liveleak
>Not bias with their choice of propaganda

It's like you never go there.

>>31998718
>that homoerotic death hug

nice one lads you sure showed them sodomites :^)

>>32007320

Please don't be angry, anon.

The SVBIED has been one of the highest mass casualty producing weapons fielded by the various enemies of various nations in the MENA region. More specifically Iraq and Syria. Though, yes, you are correct. Modern western military weaponry should keep that sort of threat at bay, and it can and it has.

It doesn't always.

Remember, the Kurds don't have access to the steady arsenal of other NATO nations, or even prior Warsaw Pact garrisons. The most effective weapon system against the heavily armored, heavily loaded SVBIED has been the lowly recoiless rifle. Tanks would be wildly effective against SVBIED's if they could always be on station when an SVBIED appeared, or if they could magically pick out which vehicle on the highway is the dangerous one. And sometimes they did. Sometimes they didn't.

The fact is, for the cost of an M1A1 abrams tank to be build, its crew to be trained, its maintainers to be trained, its parts-crew-and-maintainers to be shipped over seas, it's parts-crew-and-maintainers to be housed and utilized "in country", you could just build a few dozen SVBIED's and pay off the families of the martyrs.

I would also strongly advise you to look into how large and how armored these vehicles can be. ISIS in particular spends a lot of time positioning these vehicles on fronts where they can be the most devastating and where the SVBIED is at the lowest risk of being intercepted and destroyed.

You're underestimating your opponent, and they like when you do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb5p-mTv0nU

>>31997110
that looks like a giant AR15 barrel extension

imagine the caliber on that baby

>>32005530

It sucks to be a BMP driver. You are reliant on the vehicle commander for any sort of flank or rear information.

It's not like there are windows or mirrors to see shit.

>>32007489
It sucks to be anything inside a BMP desu..

Is there an archive link to the new isis vid everyone is talking about? I need my war porn fix

>>32007320
Talk about nerd rage. I'm not saying the US needs to use vbieds against Russia, I'm saying in the context of the battlefield and combatants they are quite good.

I don't think anyone implied that competent militaries should use them? You come off as autistic

>>32005516
underrated

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=294q3MJ72t0

>>32008522
methis against the frontal armor?
>sowhat.jpg

>>32007465
>The fact is, for the cost of an M1A1 abrams tank to be build, its crew to be trained, its maintainers to be trained, its parts-crew-and-maintainers to be shipped over seas, it's parts-crew-and-maintainers to be housed and utilized "in country", you could just build a few dozen SVBIED's and pay off the families of the martyrs.

And here lies the issue.

A single M1A1 has enough ammo on hand to do the same damage as a few dozen svbieds for effect on target (people dead).

The truth of the matter is, is that insurgent forces cant go with the effectiveness of the tank.

Its not a good weapon, its the ONLY weapon they have for this effect on target.

>>32007898

Im not him, but the issue was calling vbied's "quite good".

They are not, anymore than a spear is to a rifle with a bayonet. Both can kill by stabbing, sure, but nobody in the modern sense would call spears "good" when rifles exist.

>>32008608
Basically the same case as the barrel bombs. They use them because they have them plentyful available. If they had other, better, weapons, then they would use these without hesitation.

>>32008608
VBIEDS are a bit more of a spear, it is a multi ton bomb hand delivered and detonated at point blank range, it really can ruin your day and the day of pretty much everyone else in the vincinity.
Sure, it is a poor mans weapon, but thats what makes it so dangerous. It takes a couple thousand $$$ and one fanatic, and you can blow up some barracks, attack a convoy, blow up a market or a mosque. You can build many of them for cheap, and there is too many valuable targets to defend them all, so you will inflict casualties, and thats what counts to them.

>>32008683
>VBIEDS are a bit more of a spear

Its literally a spear in the context of the argument. Its a single use disposable weapon that uses explosions to kill enemy's.

A tank/APC in a multi use non disposable weapon that uses explosions to kill enemy's.

>t takes a couple thousand $$$ and one fanatic, and you can blow up some barracks, attack a convoy, blow up a market or a mosque.

No, you cant do all that. You can done ONE of those. With a tank/APC, you can do every single one of those with the same platform.

There is a reason why VBIED's rarely worked against US forces in iraq, unless it was a VERY commercial area, one guy with a .50, hell, a 7.62 AP GPMG will end the threat.

>>32008797
>With a tank/APC, you can do every single one of those with the same platform.
Unless someone blows you up.

>>32008821

The EXACT same thing is said of a VBIED.

>>31997533

which side is this again and why do they have so much armor?

>>32008821
https://krautchan.net/files/1479238779001.webm

Proper Tanks shit on VBIED

>>32008856
Hisbollah. They fight for Assad.
They have lots because they seem to care about it and not waste it.

>>32008797
>You can done ONE of those.
yes, and thats good enough, because they are dirtcheap and you can build hundreds.

>>32008886

So is a fucking spear, yet you dont see it being built today, because they are combat ineffective in a modern environment, just like VBIEDS.

The only way a spear would be effective is if your enemy had only spears. But that does not make a spear "very good" in modern combat.

>>32007379
Money. Ivan is fine throwing 3x more cheap dumb bombs because guiding the bombs is expensive and they don't care about collateral.

>>32007787
The best parts are already webms itt

>>32008862
do they just not man any of their vehicles at weapon ready status or what

>>32003068
what im wondering is who is operating a 5-star hotel in mosul...

>>31999247
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBSiyXjDQtU
>>32005580
>Arabs are pretty good at rampant retaliation, being unnecessarily cruel and raping and destroying civilized people and areas
no other race of people has ever been so unnecessarily cruel r-right? yeeeah whats happening in the mid east right now might seem big to you because since 9/11 suddenly the West cares and suddenly we can see footage of every war crime that happens but looking at the numbers this stuff is childs play even in comparison to what America did in Vietnam or Germany did to Europe (and fellow white people) in ww2, but im sure non-whites don't matter to you anyway so im going to have to tell you to go back /pol/

>>32007320
t.armchair general
He's obviously talking about how effective they are for an underdog unconventional force you nob and even against a conventional force they are effective, even the US army knew this in Iraq. Sorry that wars won't ever be fought between two standing armies like how you want.

>>31997110
<>"Our soldiers can't recognize them until it's too late, when the attacker either detonates his explosive vest or throws a grenade," the colonel said, adding that he lost two T-72 tanks and an armored vehicle in a single day's fighting on Tuesday.

>"It's becoming a nightmare and it's nerve-wracking for the soldiers," he said

rip

>>32010329
All their remaining T-72s are getting fucking hosed. ISIS wiping them out with all the stockpiled metis and kornets. Especially in that terrible to operate ranks in environment. I wonder how many Abrams they've actually lost. They must have lost some. ISIS makes up a nonsense number, and ISF doesn't disclose.

>>32004616
>How would /k/ make ISISs VBIEDs more effective and resistant to the only thing that seems to stop them, ATGMs?
>Could you stop the ATGMs through an extra length version of slat armor? Like two or three feet from the car body?
You can't. Nothing you could produce in bubba shop would work.

But tactics could increase survivability under heavy opposition.
Employ VBIEDs in numbers.
Suppress position of defenders with small arms fire.
Suppress position of defenders with mortar fire. 50/50 HE/smoke mix.

>>32006573
>competent force dont use SVBIED'
>what is JDAM?

>>32001823
Looks almost like they drew a dinosaur there

rawr

>>32008886
But can you WIN a war with them?

>>32009704
its probably 200 degrees or something

>>32011793
hammer the dents out of all the scrapped equipment and pile it together somewhere on a road so it looks like a tempting target for a VBIED

>>32012467
remote control your own car to crash into the vbied and record it, post on youtube showing silly ISIS suicide

>>32012479
>>32012467
better yet, convert a whole fleet of cars to remote control, pack them semtex/c4, drive fleet of vbieds at ISIS positions

>>32012437
It'll get a hell of a lot hotter when the VBIED hits.

>>32008862
>https://krautchan.net/files/1479238779001.webm
At the end you can see that if he had just gone around the tank and hit all those humvees he would have killed many more

>>32006899
what the fuck were they shooting at

>>32008596
>A single M1A1 has enough ammo on hand to do the same damage as a few dozen svbieds for effect on target (people dead).

That might be stretching it, in fact it is.

>>32011952
the dinosaur is Allah, الله

>>32012816
M1 abrams has 40 rounds,plus coax and commanders gun, and then reloads.

Its not streching it at all.

>>32009508
Its more combat effective, and cheaper, to have one plane strike 3 targets than 3 planes strike 3 targets.

Flight hours aint cheap, son

>>32009508
No, Russia's air campaign has been an outright embarrassment, reaffirming once again that Russia is a declining regional power with a delusional attention-seeking manlet at the helm who can't even prevent former satellite states like Ukraine from breaking free because Russia just has so little to offer anyone.

Russia's air campaign:
>little to no coordination with ground forces
>brutally inefficient and ineffective essentially aerial artillery bombardment
>next to no effective multi-layered real-time reconnaissance to fuck up rebel comms, logistics and capacity to wage war (Ivan, that building looks good on google earth, we bomb there da?)
>nusra and friends STILL able to launch offensives, unacceptable as Russia should be able to preempt and destroy Nusra offensives like any serious military power (all while the battlespace of Idlib province is tiny compared to the US-led bobbing campaign)
>muh SAA squarekilometre gains (great, so they simply reinforced the stalemate of the war that has been grinding on for years, most areas retaken were under control of SAA anyway until 2015)
>waging an air war on behalf of what must be the most incompetent fighting force second only to the Italian army of WW2, it's not even really "Syrian" anymore kek
>muh Aleppo siege, muh decisive blow (not how insurgencies/organisations like Nusra operate, so largely irrelevant long-term)
>stuck in a quagmire
>muh Mediterranean base (kek, exactly WHERE is Russia going to project power with its frankly limited capabilities? Africa? The Middle East?; a shithole which ought to be avoided by any sensible world power)
>going to be bombing Syria for the next 20+ years, achieving very little but wasted money and possibly more sanctions because of MUH CIVILIANS all over the incompetent leader that is Assad

There is absolutely NOTHING impressive about Russia's air campaign. The fucking Swedish Air Force would do a better job.

>>32012963
pretty true. Like they`re holding back, but they aren`t they`re just bad?

>>32012987
They're not holding back they don't even need a large force because Idlib prov is just tiny (this would be the same for any other Air Force that intervened).

I'm mostly saying that their campaign has serious flaws and is ineffective if you look past all the showy Russia Today clips. This is bad because Russia is trying to make itself a "serious global power" simply because WE WUZ SUPERPOWA, WE BUTTHURT AT U.S.

>>32008797
>Its literally a spear
Fuck off

>>32012783
At hospitals, schools and bakeries, obviously

>>32012875
Yeah it is. Especially if you stick with an Abrams is better than 48 VBIEDS.

Only VBIED I actually encountered was while we escorted a battalion out of the AO, barely made one vehicle a mobility kill.

My experience aside, VBIED are fucking nuts.
You pack 1,100+ lbs of HME into a car, more if larger than your average sedan.

VBIEDs have opportunity that a 70-ton Abrams can never give, they can get close.

The VBIED I witnessed detonated anywhere between 50-100m from the convoy. I talked to some of the guys that were actually hit by it, and they were engaging that fucker only within the last 100 meters of travel.

I was at a mass-casualty event,and it only took 2 VBIEDs to kill well over 100 hundred people, injured was around 400.

>>32013376
um who are you

>>32007346
id sure as hell hope not
that was a 57mm rocket or something

>>32008683
No, there are very few valuable targets. Value is defined as what someone is willing to pay for it. Value of strategic locations is defined by what the people vying for those locations are willing to pay for it. This payment comes in the form of not only blood, but expertise, time, physical resources, energy, plus anything anything which can be quantified by money.
Since the Iraqi government is almost as retarded and uncollaborative as Islamic terrorists themselves, the value they confer on their assets is almost nill.

>>32014261
Nobody, I served all over Nineveh province during the surge (06/07). Shit during that time wasn't as bad as it was down south, In Mosul they were largely confined to killing each other.

I am just relating my experiences.

>>32014512
For some reason I happen to be a threadkiller, but I mainly come to /k/ for /MEG/.

>(IraqiNews.com) Baghdad – Iraqi joint forces have killed 955 Islamic State militants and arrested 108 others in operations south of Nineveh, the Iraqi Interior Ministry said Tuesday.

Ministry spokesperson Saad Maan said in a press conference vin Qayyara, Nineveh, that Iraqi air forces have killed 545 militants at the southern axis of operations.

>>32014622
>DAMASCUS, SYRIA (6:20 A.M.) - The Houthi forces carried out a successful ambush against the Saudi Army on Tuesday, forcing the latter's soldiers to flee the area in disarray, while also leaving much of their equipment to the anti-government units.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/houthi-forces-seize-two-saudi-tanks-jizan-region-video/

>>32014753
>According to al-Masirah Yemeni tv, Yemeni troops including their Houthi allies launched a mortar attack against a gathering of Saudi-funded mercenaries in the Dhubab district of the southwestern Yemeni province of Ta’izz.

In two separate locations across Ta’izz province, the Yemeni forces artillery unit carried out attacks against pro-Hadi forces and killed an unspecified number of the mercenaries who were trying to advance in the province.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/dozens-of-saudi-funded-mercenaries-devastated-in-yemen/

I'm drunk, and out.

>>32014920
>can't finish a war, but at least can serve decent food at the company picnic
/ck/ approved

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHcO8Oby70U

Ahrar al-Sham setting up ADSL lines

Guess these guys will have a promising career in tech support after the war, arabs to the end

>>32011171
that fucking camo tho

>>32013190
Nothing, it's for propaganda purposes and gets some headlines in the West, thus creating the impression that Russia is this great power when in fact reality says otherwise

>>32008596

Sure, that's true. A single tank could knock out as many SVBIEDs as it had ammunition to engage targets. However, Hadji isn't stupid enough to continue losing expensive assets against a hard target, they'll get clever and have. They'll mask the approach in civilian traffic. They'll attack at night from short distances. They'll attack *where there isn't a tank*.

ISIS also has numerous weapon systems that can deliver accurate, explosive fire power on a specific target. But, bang for buck, SVBIED's have been wildly effective for the sort of war theyre fighting, which is one of terrifying attrition.

In a stand up, conventional fight? It's a laughable gimmick.

>>32013376
>VBIEDs have opportunity that a 70-ton Abrams can never give, they can get close.
Tank with gun don't need to get close its rounds will do.

>>32015350
Anybody else see a mcdonald commercial in this video at 0.40 thanks to the clipper?

Ever want to see a super detailed, frame by frame break down of a Mad Max ISIS attack against a well fortified Peshmerga position?

SAY NO MORE!

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2016/04/29/the-islamic-state-going-diy-inside-a-diy-offensive/

Now featuring heavily up-armored M1114's, slant armor, MG3's!, unesecured backblast zones, and a recovered GoPro from a failed goat-fucker gone jihad mode!

All this and more brought to you by a guy who has survived multiple SVBIED's!

Not because the SVBIED was an ineffective weapon, but because the crew and tactics were less coherent than a drunk-drugged monkey torn between humping another drunk-drugged monkey and a free banana.

So about the tromo barbaric ordinance that tos 1 bernardino fires, when do we make it inhumane rendering the russians helpless?
We can take it away from them and there is literally nothing they can do about it except bitch and moan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1crK-_FsKY

>>32013056
>m mostly saying that their campaign has serious flaws and is ineffective if you look past all the showy Russia Today clips. This is bad because Russia is trying to make itself a "serious global power" simply because WE WUZ SUPERPOWA, WE BUTTHURT AT U.S.

Butthurt because of US ? You are delusional . You perception of them trying to be global power comes from the fact that u are person that eaisly can be manipulated by media.Media is talking Russia this ;Russia that ,so know it must have been that Russia is all over the world trying to be global power again or believing they are global power already .When in reality only what they are trying to do currently is defend their basic interests (Ukraine and Syria ) which got threatend by US and Nato.

>>32013056
you are weak person because of your low IQ.

>>31998609
link to new vid?

>>32016341
thanks, reading now (already seen the VICE footage)

>>32017078
>>32017105

Spotted the vatniks, stay mad

>>32015499
Oh, the irony.

>>31998718
>>31998763
>>31998838

This is why you post guards. This is why you bivouac someplace where you can control the elements.

It's like watching two idiots fights. It IS watching idiots fight.

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>suicide/loitoring drones

>>32017599
I miss the moustache fit colonel.
Now he's a fat designer beard general.

>>32017351
haha ,you are so delusional and so deep in wests propaganda ,that anyone who says anything against west or anything positive about Russia ,is bias russian shill or whatever.

you are perfect example why propaganda is effective tool.

>>32017351
I personally dont care about Russia any more then I care about any other country ,but brainwashed Nato/West cucks annoy me.Thats why I replied to your stupid comment.

>>32017896
>le evil west/nato

just as bad as that fatnik

shut up and post more violent webms

did anyone make one of the vid from last thread with the SAA group getting blown up by an ATGM?

>>32017789

>guy says cuckznetsov deployment is purely a political move, and has no real military relevance beyond propaganda

>HUURRR U R DELUSIONAL, SWAYED BY PROPAGANDA

You kind of made his point.

>>31999431
How do these brown people know who to shoot at? It must be 95% friendly fire over there.

>>32018117
One sort cries "Allahu Ackbar" all the time, the other kind doesn't.

If you shout "Takbir" and they answer with "Allahu Ackbar" then you know you don't shoot. (or you do, since SAA did this in the past to trick them).

>>32018067
>greenlelling /v/ermin
You made your point too.
His english might be shitty, but he's right about low-IQ people such as yourself getting manipulated into thinking Russia is somehow trying to conquer the world.

>>32018166
>>greenlelling /v/ermin

wot..

>but he's right about low-IQ people such as yourself getting manipulated into thinking Russia is somehow trying to conquer the world

You fucking idiot, the Russian strong rhetoric that they are trying to peddle is not for me, its for their domestic audience.

>>32018183
k

>>32018045
Haha funny brainwashed cuck. Defense mode activated. I never mentioned evil or implied evil . Just pointed out u are brainwashed Nato/West cuck.

>>32018201

Glad we came to an agreement.

>>32018165
Are the ones who shout allauh ackbar the baddies? If i heard that in the field I would definitely start lighting them up

>>32018213
Depends on which side you are on... Government forces as well as Kurds usually don't go fully snackbar.

>>32018204
Your vatnik is showing.

Not much in ground movements today.

-SDF/YPG continue to make good progress toward Raqqa with the help of US airstrikes IS had taken heavy casualties in a bid to slow them down

-SAA/Ruaf continue to try and smoke em out of eastern Aleppo with heavy airstrikes and minor clashes .

-Turkish backed FSA/Turkish armed forces stalled out in front of Al Bab however the battle continues

-Starting with pro IS chicken littles and ending with pro SAA Arab source IS launched a large attack in Deir Ezzor city that was repelled however Deir Ezzor 24 reported minutes ago heavy fighting has resumed.

My main question is what IS will do about Al Bab as YPG/SDF moves on Raqqa.

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This is a little bizarre, but it seems now that ISIS Al Arimah is sieged as the SDF rushed south of it, taking some villages.

>>32018933
That seems like something of a wild move. What do you think SDF has in mind with that move? What are they cooking up?

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>>32016341
fucking abu hajarr.

>>32018572
Brainwashed cuck.Mental weakling.

Any word on the YPG pullout from Manbij?

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>>32012963

>No, Russia's air campaign has been an outright embarrassment, reaffirming once again that Russia is a declining regional power with a delusional attention-seeking manlet at the helm who can't even prevent former satellite states like Ukraine from breaking free because Russia just has so little to offer anyone.

Russian intervention has completely turned the course of the Syrian Civil War around.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Latest-News-Wires/2011/1214/US-Assad-s-Syria-a-dead-man-walking

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/analysis-syrias-assad-set-be-abandoned-russia-iran-n403581

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11934564/Russia-reducing-air-strikes-against-Syrian-rebels-as-intervention-fails.html

ANY DAY NOW

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>>32019506
They got confused on the highway and are moving west by accident.

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>>32012963
>Mambet damage control
Get bombed and stay bombed.

>>32019560
>Russian intervention has completely turned the course of the Syrian Civil War around.

t. russian

>>32019612
It kind of did though, it at least stopped/slowed down the hemorrhaging of territory from Assad

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>>32019612
t.unwashed mambet

>>32019612
look at the fucking pictures and tell me again their bombing campaign was for nothing.

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>>32013190
This

>>32019659

correlation =/ causation

>>32019659
>>32019652

By the time they started bombing, the SAA was already turning things around.

>>32019721
>By the time they started bombing, the SAA was already turning things around.

no they weren't, they were routed out of Palmyra lmao

>>32006979
Russian bombs never miss. Every time they explode there is ISIS terrorist underneath. Obama BTFO.

>>32019746

>strawmanning on one battle

LE LMAO

>>32019780
Palmyra was one of the biggest routs in the Syrian war for the SAA, if you don't believe that was a focal point of the war then I don't know what to say to you.

>>32019799
Both Idlib and Tabqa Airbase were bigger losses though.

>>32019799

>Palmyra
>focal point of the war

wew laddy.

The fact that you think the 10 or so bombs dropped a week by the russians had any effect is hilarious.

>>32019845
I've yet to see any evidence that supports the SAA was making significant advances before the Russian intervention, instead of massive territory losses.

>>32019845
These "10" bombs per week as you call it gave them a massive moral boost though.

>>32019815
Indeed, hence "one of" not "the biggest". They all play into the narrative that the SAA was on the back foot before the Russians intervened. Palmyra was the cherry on top that spurred Putin into helping his besieged ally.

>>32019863

Have you just joined MEG? I mean, how do i prove years of threads?

On the contrary, have yet to see any proof that the bombs that were dropped had any meaningful effect. Again, correlation =/ causation.

>>32019924
Why do you keep bringing up "bombs", you honestly believe Russia's support towards the SAA is limited to just "bombs"?

Your ignorance is truly startling, and it wouldn't be hard to show advances made by the SAA up to where the Russians intervened (hint there aren't any because they were losing ground like crazy in 2014/2015).

I will ask again, show us where the SAA was making significant inroads against the opposition before the Russian intervention.

Right now we have Idlib, Tabqa, and Palymra all showing massive losses by the SAA before the Russians joined in the scrap.

>>32019959

The cause of victory was attributed to the effects of the airstrikes (and cruise missile strikes, but those are a minority), not the constant Russian support provided to the SAA.

>I will ask again, show us where the SAA was making significant inroads against the opposition before the Russian intervention.

And i will ask again, show me where Russian airstrikes directly contributed to a victory, instead of something that was inevitable due to basic logistical factors.

>>32019986
>show me where Russian airstrikes directly contributed to a victory

Castello road
latest Hama offensive by rebels
latest (and previous) Aleppo offensive

Without russian air support these offensives would have ended differently and SAA would still try to re-capture the Arty collage.

>>32019986
Nope, you said:
>>32019612
>t. russian

Implying Russian support of the SAA had no impact on the Civil War in Syria.

You then stated:
>By the time they started bombing, the SAA was already turning things around.
In this post: >>32019721

I countered listing several battles which showed massive loss in territory from the SAA, you then made the claim and asserted Russia's intervention was limited to "bombs", as you put it vaguely several times in these posts:
>>32019845
>>32019924

Don't spin the argument around and try and dodge the original question, show me where the SAA was making significant advances before the Russians intervened.

>>32019986
>show me where Russian airstrikes directly contributed to a victory

Hama, Latakia, Aleppo campaign, Keweirs, Castello, Deir Azzor still holding out, etc

your turn, tell us where the SAA was making big advances before Russian intervention

>>32020003

Simply stating battles does not prove anything anon.

I would argue (especially the latest aleppo offensive) that victory was inevitable due to more manpower and more assets with pure degradation of defensive structures.

>>32020039
Show me where the SAA was making significant advances before the Russians intervened.

You have failed to do so several times now and have dodged the question.

>>32020033
see
>>32020039

>>32020018

>show me where the SAA was making significant advances before the Russians intervened.

*sigh*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Canopus_Star

>>32020057

heres more

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_operations_in_2014_during_the_Battle_of_Aleppo

Syrian army encircled the enemy, and kept it there. There were minor back and forths, but the strangulation was in place.

>inb4 assloads of damage control.

>>32020060
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Rainbow_(Syrian_Civil_War)

And that was with Russian support, you just rekt yourself by posting that, lmao.

They barely got the supply line open in Canopus and it was cut several times after that in 2014/2015.

>>32020076
Most of these are highly defensive operations that involve no significant territory gains, especially near the end of 2014 where they are simply recapping some lost areas around the city or within it, none of them are actual massive land grabs.

So I will ask again, show us where the SAA was making significant gains against the opposition before the Russian intervention. Posting defensive battles don't count since the entire country has battles like that.

Remind me, how many cities/km did the SAA lose in 2014? And then how many km of territory did they take back in 2015/2016 after Russian support?

The numbers you find will startle you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_military_intervention_in_Syria#Assessments_of_effectiveness

>Pro-government forces capture 586 settlements and 12,000 sq km of territory[26]
>Major pro-government strategic gains in Latakia, Palmyra and Aleppo theaters

To say Russia's intervention hasn't had an impact on the Syrian Civil War is incredibly ignorant.

>>32020108
>And that was with Russian support

Not Russian strikes. Just arms and armor.

>They barely got the supply line open in Canopus and it was cut several times after that in 2014/2015.

Again, back and forth, but the squeeze was on.

>Most of these are highly defensive operations that involve no significant territory gains

Yes, its called a siege anon. SAA encircled, and then began strangulation of the rebel forces.

> Posting defensive battles don't count since the entire country has battles like that.

>canopus star
>defensive

Like i said, assloads of damage control. I get it, you wont admit you are wrong.

>>32020137
>Pro-government forces capture 586 settlements and 12,000 sq km of territory[26]
>Just arms and armor.

Yeah because that had zero impact on the war either, lmao.

I can't believe someone is this ignorant of the Syrian Civil War.

>>32020137
>Pro-government forces capture 586 settlements and 12,000 sq km of territory[26]
>took back ground in Latakia
>took back Palmyra
>besieged Aleppo finally

RUSSIANS TOTALLY DIDNT HELP GUISE SAA IS THE BEST RUSSIA HAD NO IMPACT ON THE WAR

>>32020148
>Yeah because that had zero impact on the war either, lmao.

But the issue was not arms and armor, it was the airstrikes themselves.

>I can't believe someone is this ignorant of the Syrian Civil War.

Says the man that said that the SAA didnt make significant advances before russian intervention.

>>32020160

Russian airstrikes were negligible. Material support was what helped.

>>32020163
>>32020172
>But the issue was not arms and armor, it was the airstrikes themselves.

Nope, that was what you kept harping on, never once did I specifically state airstrikes, but rather Russian support as you can see in these posts:
>>32019612
>>32019652
>>32019746
>>32019799
>>32019815
>>32019845
>>32019863
>>32019959

You are moving the goal posts trying to bring up just "Russian airstrikes" when I clearly state "Russian support" as the prime factor.

You know we can read old posts right? Why would you try moving the goal posts?

>>32020184
>when I clearly state "Russian support" as the prime factor.

You clearly stated Russian intervention. I suppose you could count ground combat operations, but those were also negliable.

Oh wait, im sure you will damage control "intervention" to mean "material support".

wew laddy, here it comes!

>>32020163
>>32020172
Original post here:
>>32019560
>Russian intervention has completely turned the course of the Syrian Civil War around.

No mention of "air strikes", but rather "Russian Intervention".

This post calls him a shill:
>>32019612

No mention of airstrikes there either.

>>32019652
My first post claiming Russian support helped the SAA stop losing territory.

This post claims the "SAA was already turning things around" (still no evidence of this by the way). >>32019721

My post clarifying I'm discussing overall Russian support, not just "bombs" as you vaguely like to put it.
>>32019959

>>32020208
Stay blown the fuck out little man. Russia directly intervened with artillery, tanks, troops, MASSIVE material support that replenished depleted SAA reserves and allowed them get a bearing on their logistics (the most important thing in war).

To say the Russian intervention hasn't had an impact on the Syrian Civil War is laughable, I'm done with you seeing as I've already proven you're incapable of sticking to an argument.

>>32020208
>>32020225
>when someone moves the goal post but the person they are arguing with is autistic and goes back to keep track of everything

fatal mistake on your part

>>32020225
>"Russian Intervention".

Oh, im sure that means materiel support now, after i blew you the fuck out about the various SAA victories pre russian intervention.

> Russia directly intervened with artillery, tanks, troops

All to its airbase, where they sat.

>MASSIVE material support

They did, but thats not intervention. Intervention is direct your force on enemy force.

>I'm done with you seeing as I've already proven you're incapable of sticking to an argument.

Yeah, being as how you fail to grasp basics of English language, i would say its best for you to go.

Bye!

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>>32020184
>>32020208
>>32020225
Roasted alive holy shit

>>32020235

Military intervention

>The deliberate act of a nation or a group of nations to introduce its military forces into the course of an existing controversy.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/military+intervention

But i suppose that means materiel support now!

>>32020208
>>32020225
i come to this general just for moments like these where kids who love to move the goal post and never admit they are wrong get blown out by random anons

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>>32020184
>>32020208
>>32020225
Redpilled anons are based desu

>>32020208
>he actually tells everyone what >>32020225 does before he does it

SAVAGE
A
V
A
G
E

Next level trap card shit. How will vatty recover?

>>32020274
>>32020246
>>32020260

Thanks famalam's

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>>32020225
>>32020208
>>32020184
the roast is real, goal post movers on suicide watch

>>32020306

Yep, how "intervention" went to "EVERYTHING AND THE KITCHEN SINK" is hilarious.

>>32020225
>>32020184
>>32020108
>>32020018
>you will never roast someone as hard as this anon did

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And this is only the end of 2015 wew why would you say the Russians had no impact with their intervention

Based retard

>>32020208
>"for my next trick, you will move those goalposts to make intervention mean something completely different"

>>32020225
>IT MEANS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!

Fucking pottery

>>32020345

>dem vodka runes

Russian confirmed. Based poster was right all along.

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>>32020184
>>32020225
>>32020108
>>32019959
>>32019652
a god among men right here /meg/
textbook example of how to call someone how moving goal posts

>>32020377
>>32020329

>this damage control

We see your samefag for what it is. The anon said you would do what you directly did, before you did it.

Next time learn what "intervention" means.

>>32020345
i think he is just shitposting because hes mad someone made him look dumb
no serious follower of the syrian civil war would admit Russia had no impact on the war, i mean all you have to do is look at any before and after map and you can see first hand the impact of it

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>>32020390
you can check post timers and IP count you know that right
stay mad you got exposed for trying to move goal posts while we laugh at you

>>32020225
>>32020184
screencapping this for future threads

I don't know what the fuck is even going on but I just wanted to say that this entire series of replies has been simply epic, and I rate this new meme a solid 5/7.

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>>32020184
>>32020225
Put me in the screencap

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>>32020413

>post numbers are not underlined!!!!!
>IP count has not changed from 88 for the last 30 mins, pic related from another tab

Say it with me...

DAMAGE

CONTROL

Must suck to be a vatty.

>>32020455
its called 4chanx you moron

ofc you'd be a mobile poster as well

>>32020225
>>32020184

and then
>>32020130
with the cold hard numbers
>Pro-government forces capture 586 settlements and 12,000 sq km of territory[26]
>Major pro-government strategic gains in Latakia, Palmyra and Aleppo theaters

complete destruction itt
posting for screencap

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>>32020184
>>32020225

B A S E D

>>32018980
They want to take Qarassi, as it is in ISIS hands again.

>>32020471

>guy says to look at ip count
>Has not changed with proof
>STILL has not changed

REV UP DEM CONTROLS, BECAUSE THINGS BE A DAMAGIN'.

>>32020225
>>32020184
put me in coach

>>32020496
Do you know how they are doing in their push towards Raqqa?

First time post ITT

And i agree

>>32020208

Just wrecked that other faggot.

Whos gunna cap?

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>>32020184
>>32020225

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>>32020225
>>32020184
Anon completely destroys helpless goalpost mover, gets screencap in process

Can't get any more based than this

>>32020208
>Oh wait, im sure you will damage control "intervention" to mean "material support".
>wew laddy, here it comes!

and then it came.

10/10. Out fucking standing.

>>32020535
Advancing slowly. ISIS is not putting mush of a resistance.

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>>32020225
>>32020184
I'm only here for the screencap, Russia wins lol.

>>32020562

Wins what, goalpost moving awards?

The russian got out fucking played, clear as day.

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>>32020184
>>32020225
>when the roast is just right

i love the part where he goes from "BOMBS" to "UHH IDK"

autistic samefagging to end the thread, classic.

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>>32020108
>>32020018
>>32020225
>>32020184
you're the hero this general deserves
goalpost shitters on suicide watch right now

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>>32020018
>>32020225
>>32020184
Perfect, just perfect.

>>32020587

This.

He is so asshurt he just keeps posting.

20 posts, (and counting) and only 2 more posters, one of which from >>32020537


MAKES YOU THINK.

New thread:

>>32020633

>>32020633

>>32020633

>>32020633

>>32020633

>>32020633

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>>32020562
MEMRI TV is a treasure chest of amazing quotes

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>>32020184
>>32020208
>>32020225

>>32020208

>"for your next trick, you will say you were only pretending to be retarded"

>>32020225
>"I WAS ONLY PRETEND-....WHA.....YOU STOLE MY TRICK!"

Fucking gold.

>>32020225
>>32020184
I love how you called him out earlier on trying to move the goal posts with
>>32019959
>>32020018
and he still moved them

put me in the cap when its all done that was a beautiful job schooling that anon

>>32020160
MUH SQ KM GAINS

>>31999247
retreating and Killed Iraqi's

>>31998911
>BMP is best IFV.

Just dont stop moving...ever!

>>32015672
Tell that to every tank on the modern battlefield, get use to more and more ATGMs

>>32009850
How old are you?

Muslims have been fucking stuff up since before ww2. It's just really hard to get around on a camel so they were pretty well contained.

>>32025189
muslims =/= arabs?

you didn't even quote the dumb thing properly and said muslims.