Kutznesov vs Liaoning Boiler Room

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At this point it must work on vodka and siberian shaman boogaloo.

>>31989205
>work

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Who taught them those western styled carrier ops?

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>>31989161
>mfw studying the russian naval air forces in Eastern Russia
>at least 50% of the equipements is trash-tier

>>31990169
>eastern russia
>forces
Kekeing at you hard they just replaced t55 in some parts with t72

>>31989161

Russians know how to use their equipment though.

Chinks not only can't fight, they're amateurs at this sort of stuff.

>>31989691
Chinks have been practicing on a fake carrier for decades.

>>31990273
You think it's fake? Not trolling, I'm always suspicious of anything the Chinese put out because it is almost always a fake.

>>31990217
The only real investment in eastern russia is on the subs.
The fleet of strategic bombers is fucking sad.

>>31990306
No, they literally built a fully operational mock-up of a carrier deck for crew training.

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>>31990247
They look fairly competent here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac18wj5GbNw

>>31989161
In one of these boiler rooms you can get lead and asbestos poisoning from standing in it for five minutes, in the other room and can get tetanus.

>>31989161
that's before retrofit. I hear they changed almost everything around new power plants.

>>31990247
>Russians know how to use their equipment though.

Not with their average 200 flight hour pilots they don't.

>>31990426
>Not with their average 200 flight hour pilots they don't
Pretty good, HATO average is 170, minimum is supposed to be 180.

>>31990439

Yeah, except for NATO the figures are annual, not total.

Kutznesov is C U T E ! CUTE!

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>>31989161
Chinese ships are usually very well maintained and cleaned up. Interior is always suppossed to be hospital-tier, as per highest order.

The PLAN has a close connection to the IJN in terms of traditions, as the first few ships of the then-Republican Chinese Navy who defected to the PLA during civil war, were Japanese built during the 30s.

>>31990306

This is a China shill thread.
No answer you get will be well informed, unbiased or logical until one of the four posters on this fourm who actually know anything about these things actually decide to post.

>>31989161
Those look like teeny little boilers.

>>31990546
Tip of the iceberg, literally.

The difference is funding, really.

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Wonder what Carrier #2 will have as its propulsion.

Still steam or gas-turbines?

>>31990784
Gutter oil boiler

>>31990513
.5 Yen deposited into your account.

>>31989691
They've been watching Top Gun for decades.

>>31989691
Looks like their airwing is completed.

>>31990247
Russian meme magic.

>>31989161
Let's look at the Liaoning's boiler room after 30 years in the cold northern seas

Nice music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMwVU4omXFs

>>31991174

Yuan

>>31990546
That's gotta be cabin service

>>31990784

Man, you can just tell that through the photo everything smells like Harbor Freight

>>31989161

The Liaoning's boiler room won't look so good once a cruise missile rips through it, and sets off the galaxy7 magazine.

>>31994410
>He thinks the Nimitz won't get gutted by chicom mach-gazillion ASMs

Whats the problem with the top picture? Its old and rusty but shit still works

Yea we know Russia has old ships, their economy sucks

>>31994438

>The joke goes so far over his head it hits Beijing, and destroys his shill-division office, forcing him to work in the battery factory...again.

>>31990422
Yeah, the Chinese yanked the shitty boilers and turbines and switched it all over to CODAD (diesel engines).

>>31990784
Diesel Electric most likely.

>>31992594
HOLY FUCK, MY SIDES.

>>31989161
one is battle proven. One is not

Daily reminder chink just blame Russia for the recent J-10 accident, kill a female pilot.

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>>31994569
>battle

>>31990384
>everything is shiny and new therefore we know what we are doing.
Wow who could be behind this post??

>>31989161
its a show of durable design that such a filthy and illmaintained machine can still perform functionally, much like the Kalashnikov itself.

>>31990247
Kill yourself

>>31994598
[Citation needed]

>>31995242
Fuck off Xin

Chinks are weak, small dick people and like arabs cant fight for shit

Wheres the spoopy radioactive rocks go? Can't boil rocks to go faster silly

>>31989691
Why does everything chinese look like cheap shit in disneyland colors?
>no respect

>>31990784
Say what you want about Chinese, but the fuckinmg people are Neanderthals when it comes to engineering absolutely anything

>>31990384
>pink chains at 2:44
CUTE

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>>31989161
>new ship looks better than an old one

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>it's another chinese shill thread
Disgusting

>>31989691
according to wikipedia, Brazil

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http://www.combataircraft.net/2016/11/14/russian-navy-mig-29-in-mediterranean/

MiG-29KUBR crashed before landing on the Kutznesov yesterday.
>Russians can't even land on a carrier
How embarrassing.

>>31994389
Top kek. I know exactly what you mean. That store smell is unique.

>>31994501
Kek, this was funnier than the original joke. Which I enjoyed.

>>31994548
They still need boilers though.

>>31996125
syria is that way

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>>31989161
I don't understand. Why would the Russians use Norwegian paint inside their boiler room?

>>31998377
It was on sale.

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>>31992594
>>31994558

Chinese love Top Gun for some reason

>Chinese airmen are made to watch top gun as part of basic training
>US airmen now to sit through 3 hours of sexual assault prevention powerpoint presentations

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RIP

;___;

>>31996125
>syria is that way

>>31990384
are you blind to propaganda?

>>31999238
>everything is propaganda, even competent air ops, good maintenance and USN-styled deck procedure

get madder.

>>31998377
Ask yourself: would you trust and work with russian paint?

>>31996125
syria is that way

>>31996525
>>31999161
>>31999418
I forgot I posted that with the text.

>>31996125
Syria is that way.

>>31994465
>Yea we know Russia has old ships, their economy sucks
Isn't China's only carrier right now a restored Russian one though?

>>31999396
What's the worst that could happen? It isn't like it's Chinese lead paint or anything.

>>31996125
syria is that way

>>31990784
Will they ever ditch the ski jump?

>>31999367
Don't bother neo/pol/ is here to stay

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>>32000810
The next one after that will have EMALS.

Testing range has just been completed and the first plane launched.

>>31996125
syria is that way.
>I only say it because im a trucker who sleeps with the heater on.

Maybe a dumb question, but I want to be sure I get the right stuff:

What all do I need to order to attach a BCM gunfighter stock to a lower and upper?

I know that I need the stock and the tube, but do I buy the spring separately? Is there anything else I need?

>>31996125
syria is that way

>>32000828
That testing range is for a conventional catapult, wasn't it? At least IIRC. I'm sure they are aiming for EMALS eventually though, especially now that the kinks have been worked out and it's proven tech.

>>31989161
>Wow new lagging and paint over rust
Chicoms going to chink

>>32002435
They have both in that range. Thinner one is EMALS, the thicker is steam.

>>31995906
So, they're down to what, 11 a/c left?

>>31989161
>Russian ship
>is rusty and smells like vodka

>Chinese ship
>die from chemical poisoning due to dubious paint mixture

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>>31990513
The Liaoning is in incredible good shape, despite relatively short intervalls of maintenance.

>>31995252
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/14/asia/china-woman-fighter-pilot-killed/

>>32002609
No blame for the Russians, though.


It was a pilot error, female pilot was on the WSO seat training a newbie in close formation flight aerobatics.

Newbie fucked up and bailed, she as well.
Newbie came out alive but she was minced by a wingman.

>>32000810

Not for a bit, IIRC China is planning on building TWO ski jump carriers designed after the former Varyag. So after they build this second carrier, there will be a 3rd conventional ski jump carrier that will be a half-sister of the Liaoning. Maybe after that they will try catapult or nuclear but probably not for a while it seems

>>31990784
Steam. They can use it as a rice cooker that way.

>>32002656
Wrong desu.

3rd carrier will be a catapult carrier.

The 2nd is already the last ski-jump carrier.

>>32001771
Anyone???

>>31990439
>HATO
nice try vatnik

>>31990784
Tibetan rage

>>32003283

Underrated power source.

I hear you can power several cities with just a couple Tibetans

>>32003551
Yep. Their rage-filled tears have no competition

>>31989161
What do you expect?
The Admiral Kuznetsov has been in service for thirty years. That time was filled with operation as well as general neglect after the fall of the USSR. She has had a busy life and being the only carrier the Russians have, there's no cycling ships between operation/standby/maintenance.
On the other hand, the Liaoning also went through even worse neglect, but she also got a new life in the PLAN. The Chinese tore apart everything and rebuilt it to both make sure she works and to gain an understanding of carriers in general. Keep in mind that she also is not an operational carrier.

So it's basically a 30 year old ship that has wear & tear VS a 5 year ship that was extensively rebuilt and barely has any mileage.

>>31995261
>Can't boil rocks to go faster silly

Have you even tried?

>>32004166
>Liaoning/Varyag laid down in 1985
>Kuznetsov laid down in 1982

the only difference is one received what has all the appearance of proper maintenance while the other hasn't. which is what the OP's picture is highlighting.

>>32002650
That would have been an interesting call to the Russians
>YOU KILL FEMALE PIRATE!
>I am not aware of any anti- piracy operations in your area.
>NO! Pirate! She fry prane.

This thread is why we need flags

>>32004603
i was enjoying the vatniks and chinks going at it.

>>31990784
They're going back to a mast and sail with backup paddles for rowing

>>32004166

> She has had a busy life

> Been at sea for less than 36 months in a 30 year career.

> Other 320 months spent tied up or in repairs.

>>32004166
they are both 30+ year old ships. One just got some maintenance done to it, and the other is not long from becoming an artificial reef.

>>31990513
It's more heavily Royal Navy inspired with a dash of IJN thrown in

>>32004784
>One just got some maintenance done to
A complete rebuild is a little more than some maintenance.

>>32004649
>implying its not actually burgers and aussies playing pretend

>>32004842
>and aussies
Yep, Russian shill here.

>>32004865
I'm australian you stupid seppo, u think i cant spot my own?

>>32004603

It really isn't.

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>>31995906
Holy shit.

The more depressing thing is that the Russians won't be building new carriers anytime soon.

So Asbestos In Russian Is "Asbest" like the city. Didn't know that the city happens to have the largest Asbestos (chrystolite) mine and produces most of Russia's Asbestos.

>>32001771
Wrong thread

>>31992594
L.

M.

F.

A.

O.

>>31990306
They bought ex HMAS Melbourne,did a thorough study on the ship and used its flight deck was used for some secret aircraft launching programme

In fact, China actually bought 4 aircraft carriers, not just Varyag

>>32006895
I'm on /k/

Where do I need to be? I figured one of you would know.