70s-90s cop operator general

https://youtu.be/BVuKy8SnbSQ?t=9m20s

LMAO the lighting

>>31987266
mirin dat 70s video quality

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Fuck Pigs

>>31987266
dat wristwatch

dem shades

>>31987176
Could be an old 38/44, but it'd be long obsolete

>>31987319
BP's love their crack cocaine tho

provided by the nation's finest :-)

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>>31987319
what kind of gun is Huey carrying in this picture? looks like a CZ to me but I can't tell.

>>31987346
brotha darkness lol

>>31987358
That's my best guess. (That's a .38 built on a .44 frame for anyone not conversant in Olde Fudd.)

>>31987417
Some kind of mag fed shotgun. Look at the hulls heaped up at the base of the stock. Prolly cost him $49 at JC Penney.

>>31987319
edgy

>>31987429
Oh boo hoo.

>>31987427
yup. It's a Mossberg 195 after some quick googling. apparently these are dirt cheap....I kinda want one.

>>31987429
>If I call it edgy then it must be an incorrect position
>I love sucking Pig Cock

>>31987319
I didn't realize Will Smith was part of the Black Panthers

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>>31987176
1986 Miami fbi Shootout
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlSCE88UhyA

1986 Miami fbi Shootout (Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAUDnzDhQpc&feature=relmfu

>>31987487
lol. I love how it resulted in a talk about caliber when in reality it was a combination of shitty tactics and use of ancient wheelgats because of fudd attitudes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfvWAz_qMcI

>>31987487
bretty NATO

>>31987487
>handguns and shotguns btfo
>the simple semi-auto rifle wins

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>>31987711
>it was later determined [the suspects] received multiple 00-buck hits, none were fatal

Shotguns fail at fucking everything. They fucked up the other commifornia shootout too, the first responder had a shotgun with 00buck and hit a suspect in the back, it didn't penetrate the soft armor and the suspect started firing.

Shotguns are a fucking cancer for defensive purposes.

>>31987176

my dad was a cop in the 80s, 90s, 00s and retired like 2 years ago. when his department switched over from those shitty m&p revolvers in the 80s, his first automatic was a fuck hueg, polished stainless s&w .45, i cant remember which model number.

pretty sure he carried that until he made detective in the early 90s and then started carrying a 3913 until he went back to the street in the early 00s. he then carried a glock 23 but hated it. he said it was the only pistol back then that had a rail to attach a light. im not sure if hes right or not. when the m&p40 came out he switched to that and carried it until he retired a few years ago.

he also said nobody carried a beretta 92 like on tv and movies, everyone carried s&w or glocks. he was also an early adopter of the asp baton and taught classes on how to use it to other cops in the department. he did have a shotgun in his cruiser, an 870 with a side saddle that looked like the shotgun from duke nukem 3d, but it did have a stock on it.

equipment wise he always wore hi tech magnums, previous to that he had to wear those shitty patent leather dress shoes. the departments down here did not require them to wear those goofy cop hats, and instead had an optional baseball cap. his duty belt was the same basket weave leather pattern both times he was on the street. in the past decade or so when the holsters came out that required you to cant it a certain way to unholster he switched over to one of those.

in the 80s he drove a box caprice, which i liked. as a detective he had an unmarked box caprice and a ford taurus. when he went back to the street he had a newer crown vic. unfortunately he was not a street cop when bubble chevys were a thing. anyways, im sure theres more but if you guys have any questions lemme know.

>>31987837
did 80s cops not use AR15s?

>>31987837
rifles rifles rifles

rifle > shotgun > handgun

when did they get rifles?

>>31987837
Your dad sounds super cool. I think the 80s and 90s were the best time to be a cop -- technology was rapidly advancing, but tactics and mindset (and lack of SJW whining) were still old-school, so you were free to innovate. At the same time, there were some nasty places to be a cop in those times (Miami, Detroit...)

>>31987837
Cool story bro. Seriously that was dope.

If he was LAPD it was probably a 4506 stainless. At least that's what the LAPD website said they were carrying in the 80s.

According to this dude they did carry berettas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rc_0hBKQD8&t=105s

Also in my home town all the cops had Berettas. Nowdays everywhere I go I see nothing but glocks on cops.

also around the time he retired he pulled some guns out of his safe and we were finger fucking them in the kitchen. he carried a 9mm kahr compact as his back up gun on his ankle. he noted he switched to another gun, and didnt say which, one time when he was getting out of the car and somehow the magazine base caught something in the car and popped off and the rounds and spring came flying out and spilled all over the car.

he bought two 3913s and gave one to my mom, and she couldnt load the magazine so she just kept her revolver. he kept that 3913 in his safe until around when he retired and mentioned he had it, so i bought it from him and it came with 5 mags. its probably my favorite gun to shoot now.

when i was in high school i fabricated a mount for the siren control module in his cruiser. for whatever retarded reason it was on the transmission hump under the dash and wasnt reachable without leaning forward and down, so i fashioned a mount out of wood that raised it up and oriented it towards the driver seat.

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>>31987487
More on this shootout,,, Fucking bloody,,,,,,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8BqndYwfJU

>>31987930
also back then it seemed they were allowed to use more unconvential non-lethal tactics such as batons, warning shots and punching people in the face wheras now it seems the minute they "fear for their life" they just magdump. While this might be the safest option, it kind of eliminates the element of communicating to the perp about the escalating use of force, which is why cops shot much more people on average these days despite crime going down.

>>31987963
Watched the TV film on the shootout when I was a kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04dUCT-qO3c

>>31987484
kek did you get a ticket today?

>>31987943
how could she not load the magazine? weren't those guns designed for women?

your dad sounds pretty cool.

>>31987963

>On October 5, 1985, Platt and Matix murdered 25-year-old Emelio Briel while he was target shooting at a rock pit. The pair stole Briel's car and used it to commit several robberies. Briel's remains were found on March 1, 1986 but were not positively identified until May 1986.

Wow....what fucking tossers. This guy was just probably trying to blow off stress after work and they just rolled up and popped him for his car.

Again though, the main question I have here is WHY THE FUCK WERE THEY STILL USING REVOLERS IN 1986?

By that time they were probably outgunned by most civillians and gangs.

>>31988063
>WHY THE FUCK WERE THEY STILL USING REVOLERS IN 1986?

The efficiency of the bureaucracy?

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>>31987923

im not sure exactly when they started but he said in the 80s and 90s it was frowned upon for looking too militarized, so some cops had mini 14s. he never actually owned an AR until a year or so before he retired, and didnt carry it at work because he said it was too much bs to jump through hoops with the department. strangely enough i built an AR because of threads on /k/ and when he shot mine, it motivated him to build one of his own and now he has several, as do i.

>>31987930
well he was a cop in broward county, im not going to say where but he was around for the cocaine cowboys days. some of that action did spill over from miami to broward but it wasnt much. he actually did catch don johnson pissing behind a building when miami vice was being filmed here and let him ago because he was don johnson. in regards to the sjw shit, there was none of that. now if you slightly raise your voice theres an inquisition but back then you could thump on anyone for pretty much anything and there was zero recourse for the person to take against the cop or department.

>>31987937
>4506
nailed it, it was this model

>>31988091
yeah but it seems it's specifically American police had a revolver fetish that lasted way too fucking long. By the 70s the Italian police had those sweet 15 round Berettas that are on the surplus market now, Western European police were using the Hi power and pretty much the entire Eastern Bloc had some Makarov variant. It was specifically American police that insisted on using outdated shit because "made in 'murrica" but even that is not an excuse since S&W 39s were pretty common.

>>31987176
For the 70's and 80's just play Mafia 3 and there you go.

90's is just pain and suffering.

>>31987993
>back then it seemed they were allowed to use more unconvential non-lethal tactics such as batons, warning shots and punching people in the face

pretty common from what i was told actually. so were verbal threats. a few years back there used to be a commercial for cops reruns on fx where it shows a bso deputy chasing after a dude in a neighborhood and yells at him "stop running or ill shoot you in the back!". if you did that now, especially on camera...yea kiss your life goodbye.

>>31988063
>how could she not load the magazine? weren't those guns designed for women?

they did make a lady smith version, but she said it chewed her fingers up loading the mag. im more apt to believe it was her just not wanting to try anything new and purposely being shit at it so she didnt have to change her ways.

>>31988091
>The efficiency of the bureaucracy?

no, back in the day at least here, the whole mayberry sheriff old timey cop thing was what all the older chiefs that were on the beat in the andy griffith show era wanted their cops to do, so they restricted them.

>>31987176
Sucked being a gun owner in the 80's and 90's.

You bought guns that the manufacturer offered or risked the locap gunsmith making you one of a kind customjobs.

AR-15 parts accessories from 3rd parties didn't really take off till the assault weapon ban lifted and civilian market demand drove innovation.

Look at tge mentality of mist gun makers from back in the day they were arrogant assholes.

The 80's to 90's were great if you were special forces, being a civilian sucked.

We need to drop this nostalgia rose tinted glasses nonsense.

The best time to be a civilian gun owner was right before the NFA laws were made. Because during the twilight years of thw wild west, you could own machine guns artillery and explosives.

Now in the 2000's after the assault weapon ban ended, with the exception of in never ending in CA and NY, now is the best time in America in the past 80 years to own guns because there is so much to compete for your money* and you can almost buy anything in free american states like georgia, texas and other southern midwestern and western states barring the coastline.

*really there is lots of options for American staples like AR-15's and 1911's it would be great if import laws and part compliance was did away with to have cheaper and more variety of non neutered european gun designs or cheaper alternatives from Asia and Russia.

>>31988138
Americans dwspite their love of guns have always been behind the tech curve when it came to military and police.

US civil war is prime example, most troops were using what was basically a musket when metal cartidge breach loaders, bolt actions and lever action rifles existed.

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>>31987963
>Dat 1986 glock

https://youtu.be/L8BqndYwfJU?t=22m38s

>>31987319
>>31987463
>>31987484
(You)

>>31987417
It looks like a mossberg 195, I got the sears knock off of it.

>>31987752
Kinda like the katana, good for unarmored peasants. But for all else it sucks.

>>31988543
nice groupings and nice mustache.

>>31988091
On a related note, I think it was only 1996 that the RCMP switched from the Model 10. And even then it was an extremely contentious matter inside the organization that many were against.
And the replacement chosen was the 5946 with the absolutely disgusting DAO trigger. The Glock was rejected solely because the trigger has to be pulled for disassembly.
Still standard issue today, they constantly are on the lookout for anybody retiring those same type to buy them up for parts since S&W discontinued it.
They're about as backwards and bureaucratic as it gets really, all municipal departments and the couple provincial ones are always well ahead of them. They still haven't gotten to the point of having C8 carbines (basically a Canadian M4) widely available.

>>31987176
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04dUCT-qO3c

>>31987176
Could be a blued Colt Python .357, which can shoot .38 special.

I was a cop in the mid-90s. Metro area of a couple million but the city PD I worked for within that area had a population of about 150,000. We usually had about half the meth labs in the state in our city, keeping us pretty busy in SWAT, and the lowest per-capita number of police officers in the state, so patrol was busy as fuck.

Carried a Glock 17 (2 spare mags), Taser (1st gen), ASP, two pairs of cuffs. My "just in case" gear was a Glock 26 backup gun with another spare Glock mag and a NAA 22 revolver in a wallet holster (before ATF decided that was an AOW). Also a Katz Avenger serrated (I think it had another name back then) and any one of several Benchmade autos du jour, a bunch of flex cuffs in a cargo pocket and about a dozen cuff keys hidden all over me. Also piles of loaded Glock mags in my briefcase.

Agency sprung for level II body armor, but we had a generous (for then) uniform allowance of $250/mo so those of us who were serious (i.e. planned to keep the job long term and stay alive) bought our own level III vests and just kept the level II as a spare if we needed a loaner. My citation clipboard had a level II insert in it, my bigger paperwork clipboard and briefcase both had level III inserts in them, plus my level IV SWAT vest.

Almost everyone in the agency had a shotgun in the car, at a minimum. The serious guys also had AR-15s on duty and in some cases a few of us also had our own NFA M16s we carried in the car, back when you could still get an M16 on a form 4 for about $2000. Carried a boatload of loaded M16 mags in the car too. Also kept my tricked-out-as-shit Remington 700 PSS 308 in the trunk for SWAT. Mine was from back in the 80s when they were still hand built in their custom shop, and worked properly.

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>>31987176
Hahaha I love this vintage FBI stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IDRMH8ZdCo&feature=related

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Here's a promotional sales video for the HK P7 targeted at LEO contracts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIUfMsct_ao

Holy fuck this movie looks awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ql3l9C_qQ4

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>>31988341
OP here, was talking more about cops and criminals.

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>>31989866
WATCHU LOOKIN AT HONKEY!

>>31988543
>Dat mustache
>Dat bright red polo shirt
>Dat mag retention

truly a glorious age

>>31987176
>YWN be an agent for the racist-fascist military authority in the 60's of Los Angeles.

Groovy baby!

>>31989854
I don't know what changed but bike cops don't look anywhere near this cool anymore.

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>>31987487
Neat

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>>31990357
what's that turkey? you think you bad huh? well you just been had sucka

>>31987266
>>31987176
>sid davis productions

>hurr, dont grab a longarm, your sidearm will do fine

way to get cops killed, kike

>>31987417
we wuz kangz

>>31988138
EuroCops had this huge fetish for small .32's that died out overnight with the Munich incident.

>>31991355
I always wondered why cops in Europe were all about little pocket guns in .32 and .380 for duty use, doesn't seem to make any sense.
Like how in some Asian countries (such as Japan), many officers carry 5-shot .38 snubs as duty guns. I can't imagine why, I mean I know they'll pretty much never use them but it surely wouldn't be much more expensive or anthing to get modern pistols.

>>31991297
>shooting a shotgun means everyone in the area gets hit.

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>>31987319
AYO HOL UP

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Dumpin some pics.
iirc this is from the north Hollywood shootout

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>>31991620
Same goes for this one

>>31987930
when i came on in the early 2000s there were still old timers who were certified to use black jacks to beat people.

actually certified to use them.

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>>31991537
https://youtu.be/G3EtBQZYCmw?t=4m37s

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The 1985 Bombing of West Philly.
Cops drop a grenade on a group of radicals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eHpRjxk7N4

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>>31991642
One of the guys on my force is ex-NYPD. When he started popping people upside the head with a blackjack was the order of the day, by the time he left you got in trouble if you didn't buy an arrested suspect lunch.

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>>31991686
damn I live really close to that area now

>>31987837
any cool stories?

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>>31991841

Absolutely ITT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o0U_0WBSPU

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>>31987176
mainly revovlers, though I remeber in the mid to late 70s my dad told me they got a lot of stuff when 'na, when ending and they were having the same arguments about mub militerized police force becuase the war on drugs and crime was starting to heat up
He said, if its anything like what happened when he was on the job, most of it is just for show and to justify their budgets every year, maybe once in a blue moon they use some of it for a riot or big operation and be like "SEE, SEE THATS WHY WE HAVE IT" (and arguably it would come in handy), but most of the time it just collects dust and is too much of a pain to really use. n a few years they'll sell most of it off and keep some of it

he started with a revolver, then in the late 80s switched to a 9mm smith and wesson wonder nine that he loved and still has, and before he retied in 2007 used a glock .40 that he also liked, but prefers the smith

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>>31988212
>"stop running or ill shoot you in the back!". if you did that now, especially on camera...yea kiss your life goodbye.

you can still makes threats like that.

doing it is going to get you jammed up, but ya know, fleeing felon rule.

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>>31991901
I've always like the look of Texas State troopers

>>31988063
>>31988091
changing something for a department is hard, especially the bigger a department is, and especially something as vital as a duty gun, uniform, body armor, cruiser, ect
its not as simple as "we want to change from A to B so we'll do it next Tuesday", theres money, meetings, bureaucracy, testing to see if its even necessary and a handful of dumb asses that dont want to change and that includes some people working in the feild
I work for a fairly smaller Sheriffs department and we argued all summer about switching back to 9mm from .40 and allowing M&P's on the list

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if you could be an LEO from any time period and from any Department what would you pick?

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>>31991951

>>31991925
plus that incident was the whole impetus for law enforcement to switch over to automatics in the first place. there like like two departments in the entire country that had autos before then.

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>>31992053
>tfw no MP5/10

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>>31992113
the 90's. The decade it all went to shit.

>>31987837
>nobody carried a beretta 92 like on tv and movies
I thought it was just my dad who said that. I really dont know why either, he's shot mine before and said he liked it. Might have just been the whole "not 'murican made" thing

>>31988091
my old man was a cop in when all that shit happened and he switched from his glock back to his revolver loaded with .357 +P afterwards

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>>31992150
Well, that's all I've got.

>>31991957
Easy. LAPD in the 60's.

The corruption, beating anyone you didn't like, violating people's right at a whim, smoke dope and get blowjobs from hippy chicks to get out of arrests.

>>31991957
Miami, 1974

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>tfw started in the early 90s
>remember .40 when it first came out and how hyped we all were
>learned on a smith wonder nine, carried it for my probation then got to upgrade to a glock 22
>loved it and still love .40, dont care what anyone says
>this threads reminds me how old I am

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wty8VSi4Fs0

>>31992359
ever carry a sap?

SLA shootout.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIFi-Emmj6k

>>31992399
I did when I first started, but like the smith and wesson I upgraded shortly after
I was in the transitional period when they were changing a lot of old gear and I got some of the new stuff. I much preferred most of it, probably because I wasnt too use to my issued gear yet. I knew some guys that kept all their original stuff until they retired

>>31991387
That's nothing. Before my country's police switched to the SIG P220 line of pistols they carried Walther PPs in .32 ACP. Now this isn't that odd in and of itself but they didn't even load the magazines with more than five rounds. Each cop had nothing more than five rounds of .32 ACP and a baton at his immediate disposal.

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>>31992074
>Tfw hung out with FBI and got to shoot one of their MP5/10s

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>>31987937
that was a pretty dope ass story

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>>31992585
you really are from the old guard

>>31992843
>Those big maglites
We've still got a bunch of those that we're supposed to use. I think all of them are inoperable due to catastrophic battery leakage by now.

>>31992843
even though i know everyone has different tastes, it sometimes really surprises me to see what someone else collects

>>31987319
>>31987484
cuck, also defending cops isn't boot licking, you nig lover

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would this be an okay place to discuss law enforcement as a career?

i took the border patrol agent polygraph and failed. the guy said I was hiding something, and suggested that I was hiding drug use. I never touched drugs in my life.

as a forensic psych major, i know these machines don't measure truth or lies, just bodily reactions. i was nervous as hell that day.

i want a LE job, but most agencies require a poly. people from the 70s-90s didn't have to deal with this shit.

what do?

>>31993362
Get drunk

>>31988637
Ex-FBI contractor reporting in. I've seen their internal memos (discussing nothing sensitive; this is merely for historical info) that referenced the many different type of 1980s semi-autos used by agents. The foolishness and logistical headaches of FBI armorers having to carry so many spare parts for so many models of S&W is what lead FBI to adopt Glock model 22 as standard for all special agents. FBI specialized operators could still keep their Springield Armory .45 1911s if they qual'd with them, but the agency standardized on the .40s&w. Over the last 30 yrs, FBI has had problems w/controllability of and stress on guns by that round so they're FINALLY allowing agents to choose among the G22, 17, and 19, the latter two in 9mm.

>>31993423
this post is bullshit, Mulder carried a 226

>>31993362
whats this from? ive seen it before but i cant place it.

>>31993529
Spriggan i think, took me a bit but thats my best guess

>>31993445
Sigs are carried by many US agencies but not by FBI on an org.-wide basis, or not for long: http://www.usacarry.com/forums/general-firearm-discussion/25528-researching-federal-fbi-carry-weapons.html.
Tv = Hollywood = FICTION

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>>31993362
dude dont get scarred of the poly, the border patrol is so overly strict with them they cant hire enough men.

Congress is possibly going to have to get involved. Poly washouts are causing federal hiring shortages in some depts.

LEO is hiring like a mauf in most parts of the country right now.

>>31993880
im trying not to be but that was a pretty harsh experience.

to have someone suggest that i lived my life dishonestly when i did my very best to stary away from the wrong sorts of influence, and then have them not pass me really sucked.

i withdrew, so i'm hoping none of the results are posted and affect my future LE applications.

>>31988637
Initially the RCMP's replacement of the Model 10 was an aluminum framed version of the S&W RCMP only 9mm. I don't think that would've been known as a 5946 also, but I could be wrong.

I only know this, as my Mother was working there during the transition from Model 10 to S&W Semi-auto. She had a hard time passing range tests with the new pistol (was always Ace with the Model 10 snubby running +P wadcutters, which was standard issue for her). To pass with the new pistol, she had to practice so much that she actually wore out the gun (aluminum frame). At that time, the equipment dude custom ordered her the all steel version because of this. I'm guessing this would be the 5946.

Not sure how long the aluminum framed version lasted across the force, but probably not that long.

>>31993995
I think (though I may well be wrong) that when they changed over to the 5946, they also picked up some (probably relatively small) number of 3953s (compact, alloy-framed DAO) specifically for officers with small hands who struggled to use the 5946. Maybe that's what it was?
I've seen images of 3953s with the same RCMP rollmark on the slide as their 5946s have and I believe that's what they are

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>>31993911
Not that anon but applying to other places, most likely at the very least they will know you tested with BP. I'm in the process for CPD and I've been told that if you get DQ'd or some shit it will follow you. Could be true could be bullshit to scare people, no idea.

>>31994133
It could have been. Sadly I was a lot younger then, and didn't think to write down model numbers.

She was undercover, so her only "issue" firearm prior to that was the .38 snubby. Perhaps this is what they issued to these officers.

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>>31987319

For those who can't tell... the poster doesn't hate cops. What he is doing is counter intelligence propaganda. He's a government shill.

He's trying to make it look like if you dislike tyrannical goons like cops, you must be a nigger or nigger lover. This is done to discourage potentially armed and dangerous unhinged commandos from fighting cops in a future police state. They know we hate niggers even more.

He's actually the same guy who later on posts something like.

>here in /k/ we hate pol you racist Nazi bigots!!!

In order to keep racism and thus the truth from race and biological differences from being expressed further. Dumb half nigger and beaner kids will be less intelligent and most likely to control.

>>31994169
It would make sense then.
I remember reading on a forum one time somewhere where a couple RCMP officers mentioned that those compact versions are rare to see but some are still kicking around.
Though I don't know how they can afford to keep using them considering the lengths they already have to go to for parts to keep the standard guns going.

>>31988091
I can't be the only one that thinks that that was cool

>>31994174
Nice sleuthing cletus

>>31991951
They're militarizing the police!

Next they'll have armored cars!

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>>31991677
>>31991669
>>31991656
>tactical MP5s

Does the humble MP5 still see much use in military and law enforcement use? I feel like it's fallen by the wayside, but I might be wrong.

>>31994381
I'm sure it still sees quite a bit of use, but most departments that can afford to have switched to carbines (or at least largely supplemented their SMGs with them).
On a related note, I remember officers who used them back in the day saying on a forum that several of them actually much preferred the Colt 9mm SMG to the MP5.

>>31994381

Not really. They're pretty well done.

>Dat image.

Just think, in some parallel dimension some nut chambered one of those in .220 Spitfire and made the P-90 ~50 years early.

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>>31994402
>Colt 9mm SMG
>oh cool, some kind of obscure SMG I've not heard about?
>nope, just an AR-15 with a dinky little Uzi mag sticking out of the magwell

What an awful looking gun.

>>31994433
The look has grown on me, I find AR-based SMGs pretty cool now

>>31994174
>>here in /k/ we hate pol you racist Nazi bigots!!!

We actually do you hate you though.

Not because of your retarded, stormfag fucking views, but because of your fucking cancerous selves that like to spill over into the other boards. And when someone disagrees with you, theyre fucking JIDF or some other stupid fucking bullshit. We like to talk about guns and with you fags its "nigger this" or "nigger that" or "Jew this", or "Jew that". Its fucking annoying.

>>31994229
Ammo costs. 9mil is cheaper, and the RCMP would go through a LOT of ammo for training.

Like I said, my Mother wore out the aluminum gun trying to qualify, and they gave her the all steel version instead.

More recently ended up at the Range with a guy I knew years ago, who's Vancouver. They use .40. Cheap boxes of Winchester is what they are given to practice with. He had two FTF/FTE with that one 50 round box that he had been issued.

Cost IS a concern.

Many lamented the switch, and I'll tell you why... Revolvers are easy to keep clean... Auto's are not. Many Cops are lazy. I know about the solvent tank, and some just dumping their entire pistols in there, and calling it a day. Many Cops do not WANT to properly clean a Semi.

>>31987319
edgemaster

>>31987963
glad the fbi won. fuck matix fucking pos.

>>31994496
I would hope they get to practice at least a bit with the ammo they actually carry.
I get that it could be a pain to clean a semiautomatic if you're not used to it, but I could never understand people having such a lax attitude towards it considering they may have to count on it to save their own life.

>>31991387
They were issued with one and werr forced to live with it. Besides most asian countries already switched to semiauto with J-frame revolvers are relegated to either traffic cops or undercover agents

Also, gun isn't as prevalent in asian countries (except shitholes like Cambodia, philipines or indonesia) as in the US

>>31989241
Awesome. Thanks for sharing

>>31989241
>clipboards and briefcases with inserts

thats really interesting, what was your intentions with that? I would imagine if you encountered an armed person during a traffic stop you would drop everything to get to your firearm.

>>31987176
>Not calling them coperators
You dun goofed

>>31988543
This is the shootout that resulted in the birth of 40s right? Or am I mistaken?

>>31988543
>18 round clip
triggereddddd

>>31994706
10mm Auto

>>31994381
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKlcqwtFdmE

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>>31987319
Meanwhile in the 90's

>We wuz Rodney Kangz n' sheet

>>31987176
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri4e_wpDc54

>8:20, target like 25 feet away

Must be the shotgun's effective range.

>>31988091
Fuck man, the Victoria Police here in Aus used revolvers until 2010.

>>31994448
Agreed, after firing about 100 rounds of 9mm through one two months back I've come to love the idea of a short barrelled AR-15 in 9mm. Will be a later build for me.

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read this.

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>>31994916

or this.

70'a Cop mythology has it that NYPD only let Stakeout Squad guys carry revolvers. Cirillo's response to the problem of reloading a 6 shot revolver in a gunfight, was to drop the empty and draw a second one and keep on shooting.