>China's principal radar manufacturer, the China Electronics Technology Group Corporation (CETC), exhibited at Airshow China 2016 a number of air defence radars it claims can detect low-observable aircraft such as the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning II fighters.
>Chinese news media reported that these radars are being marketed for export to any country with a requirement to counter such stealth capabilities.
>http://www.janes.com/article/65452/china-offers-anti-stealth-radars-for-export
Why is America losing so bad in the stealth war?
J-20s in Syria when?
> "anti-stealth" radars
So, radar? The radars that Russians have been building for decades?
Except now that the chinks managed to build them, the immigrant chang micropenis brigade is gonna rag on about them?
>>31984824
>So, radar? The radars that Russians have been building for decades?
Read the article
Shit. My govt needs to buy that.
>>31984835
Different anon here - I did, what's the big deal? They built some UHF / VHF radars, again, same as Russia's been doing for years.
>>31984848
Russia doesn't sell anti-stealth radars.
>>31984835
Literally ordinary military radars.
>air defence radars it claims can detect low-observable aircraft such as the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning II
Fuck, does Chicom think nobody else is in the 21st century?
>>31984851
So Syria, etc stole those S-300s?
>>31984851
You're a dumb fucking chimp. stop shilling your knock-off slavshit.
Go look up every single Russian SAM and see the countries they export to.
Imbecile..
>>31984800
>Post yfw ISIS downs its first F22
>>31984856
So which radar of the S-300 system is supposed to be optimised against stealth?
>>31984865
> mfw Saudi bought F22 is downed with a stray AK bullet
Chinese radar systems are a generation ahead of Russian systems with most of them being active phased array systems for years.
>>31984876
Yeah, it's a modern military radar. What exactly about it is worth making a thread on?
>>31984870
The 1L13-3 Nebo SV
>>31984890
chinks managed to build one, and according to this guy >>31984882 it's already a whole generation ahead of the Russians.
>>31984894
Yes, according to you yourself it's a generation ahead of the Russians, but it's not. There is nothing advanced enough about it for it to be considered a "generation ahead" of any other modern system. It's quite literally just an ordinary military radar system.
>>31984894
Radar technolgy is one of China's strong fields.
Just to showcase this advantage. How many Russian aircraft have AESA radars?
Meanwhile it's standard for Chinese aircraft for a long point.
That's the combination of strong research in that field and an industry to back it up.
>>31984910
Why are you replying to yourself, Ching-Ling? How much do you get paid for this? 50 cents per post?
>>31984910
>for a long point
*for a long time
Another point to showcase.
Chinese state of the art destroyers deploy AESA radars. Meanwhile even the USA are still using PESA radars.
>>31984918
Listen here chink.
NOBODY is impressed by your reverse-engineered slavshit, including your own fucking government otherwise it wouldn't place an order for S400 batallions.
Fuck outta here.
Good stuff.
>>31984800
Wonder if Chinese tech support is anything like Indian tech support?
>Chan, the yankees are attacking and our radar can't see shit!
>Have you tried turning it off and on again?
>>31984800
>gook radars
Nice clickbait, gook shill.
Russiafags are stay losing.
>>31984800
>China claims *** can *** American ***
>claims
All I can hear are claims.
CLAIMS
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> 2015
> buy russian anti-stealth radar
> 2016
> release revolutionary chink anti-stealth radar, one generation ahead of the russians
>>31984800
China is buying entire S-400 battalions so outside chicom shills, not even the chinese military has faith in their radars.
Had chinese radars worked they would have bought missiles only and tried to integrate them with their own radars but alas, chinese radars are SHIT.
>10 years ago
>China buying S-400
>China buying S-35
Nothing happened
>>31984899
>but it's not
Source to back up your eloquent in depth analysis of this one picture?
>>31984979
>All I can hear are claims.
Yes. On both sides of this debate. As /k/ threads go this one is plumbing new depths.
This guy >>31985005 for instance conflates a radar with a complete missile system.
I don't understand this whole "anti-stealth radar, america BTFO" thing.
Even if the radars can detect stealth planes as reliably and effectively as non-stealth planes (which obviously they can't, but whatever), isn't it STILL a victory for the US, since they're forcing all of these countries to spend tons of money on new, specialized equipment?
I wonder, as a percentage of overall defense budgets, who is spending more: The US/allies on stealth, or everyone else on anti-stealth?
>>31984800
Maybe they can use it to find that fucking space station they lost.
>>31984871
>saudi pilot gets altimeter upside down
>crashes into "anti stealth radar"
>threads titled "AMERICA BTFO" for years
>>31984876
>>31984800
>implying low frequency radars can detect 3+ generation stealth
>>31984800
>losing in the stealth war
But anon, aircraft have been obsolete since 1915, when the first aircraft was shot down by a canon.
The tank was made obsolete in 1916-1917 by the first anti-tank guns.
Even though aircraft have been obsolete for a very long time, the yanks built invisible ones. But since now they aren't invisible, they are completely useless.
>>31984800
>Why is America losing so bad in the stealth war?
Wake me up when any Chink system actually manages to counter and destroy a US stealth plane. Until then, it's all about China struggling to keep up with the rest of the class.
>>31986161
>China struggling to keep up with the rest of the class
Jingoism aside the Chinks have made some massive strides in that direction.
>>31986185
>Jingoism aside the Chinks have made some massive strides in that direction.
Have they? We pretty much have to take everything at their word because they're never going to actually deploy anything.
>>31986019
I don't think you realize what kind of a money pit F35 is.
>US$1.508 trillion
>>31986198
The F(X)-35 was already known to the media in 2002, and yet was never deployed until pretty recently.
>>31986225
No. Less that 1 trillion by now, and still falling.
To. Operate. More. Than. 2000. Planes. For. 50. Years.
>>31986225
Maybe. But remember, I'm thinking as a PERCENTAGE of defense budgets, not total costs. Yes, the F-35 is very expensive, but the US also spends a lot more already. Granted, other countries would also be fielding new radars regardless of whether they had to defeat stealth or not, so perhaps it doesn't mean much.
Also, in addition to this point:>>31986257, the US was going to replace its planes anyway, so I feel you'd have to look at those costs minus the costs of a non-stealth program that does all of the same other stuff. Isn't the stealth aspect of the F-35 not the most costly part anyway? I was under the impression that the stealth technology was one of the relatively easy aspects of the platform to implement.
How to these 'anti-stealth' radars compare in terms of cost and utility to 'normal' radars? If there were no stealth planes to worry about would these still be useful enough for countries to be building them anyway?
>>31984952
Not really. Just the standard issue shitposting and Chinkposting that always turns up in these threads.
>>31987278
>chinkposting
>in a China thread
I'm shocked!
That downplaying is quite adorable.
>>31987287
well ok,
congratulations on a radar
do you need a prize after successful potty use as well ?
>>31987303
Don't bother, Chinese think that everything their country achieves deserves a fucking medal, even if it's basic shit other nations have already achieved.
It's like that Chris Rock bit on "black people vs. niggas". Chinese will claim they are peace-loving cause "we wuz not imperialists and shit". What do you want, a cookie? You're not supposed to be imperialists, you low-expectation-having motherfuckers.
>>31984910
>Just to showcase this advantage. How many Russian aircraft have AESA radars?
This is the same intellectually dishonest argument used with Chinese ships having AESA.
China has the luxury of building up its fleet of modern aircraft and ships -now-, countries like Russia or the USA already have existing fleets of modern aircraft and ships.
>>31986507
>Maybe. But remember, I'm thinking as a PERCENTAGE of defense budgets, not total costs.
Still no where near as large as you are pretending.
Seems just like normal radar. I don’t know who the market might be, everyone who can buy radar who needs it seems to already have it.
There is no suggestion it works either.
>>31986019
Since radars started as low frequency devices the cost of developing these radars is trivial compared to developing a stealth fighter.
If you look closely you will see that the low frequency radars use Yagi antennas and large dipoles, a bit similar to TV antennas. This is old technology. The beam is steered using phase shifting, another technology that predates WWII. most of the electronics is not more advanced than any ordinary TV receiver. Only in the software is there a lot of finesse.
>>31984910
>That's the combination of strong research in that field and an industry to back it up.
What did he mean by this?
This shit is real counter-stealth for you.
>>31988072
And this.
>>31988092
>>31988072
>>31988092
>>31988103
Seriously, fuck off back to Tiexue and go jerk off to your basic radar with the rest of your Chicom buddies. No one here gives a shit.
>>31988151
>tiexue
>ever being relevant aside for shitposting monks
kek
>>31988072
>datalink apertures
>aka microwave emitters
>aka mobile phone technology
nice one chyna you sure showed us western piggus there :^)
Threadly reminder that the Chinese already train with stealth target drones to combat the Americans.
>>31988092
The terminology is strange but it seems this is in reality a multi-static radar. And that is hardly new in itself so there is perhaps something that is lost in a b0rken translation.
>>31984800
>Chinese claims
And into the trash it goes
>>31984800
Thanks OP,just ordered one on Aliexpress
>>31987592
I was excited, because I thought someone might actually answer my question. But I see you have nothing of value to offer.
>Pigeon farts on it
>It falls apart within seconds
China should just stick with those paddle-wheel junks they were so fond of.
>>31988164
So where do Chinese military fans go to circlejerk nowadays?
>>31988824
dingshen
or CD
>>31985479
>This guy >>31985005 for instance conflates a radar with a complete missile system.
To help people out I think what he was trying to talk about the Nebo-M system which is part of a S-400 formation.
>>31984800
can that thing spot drones?
>>31988965
Is it these two sites?
http://www.dingsheng.com/forum.php
http://lt.cjdby.net