Medical card and guns

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>>31983962
Buy what you want before you get your card, Then you'll just have to buy from private sellers.

>>31983962
They can find out by doing a blood test on you because of THC being in your blood for thirty days which is what causes you to get high from legit weed

Get vapor and use CBD that doesn't have THC in it

That way you get the same benefits but downside is not getting high but it won't be in your blood so you won't be discarded from owning guns

Also it's legal and no card is needed

>>31983974
Will an FFL be able to look up whether or not you have a mmj card? Is it any way that data is transferred to anyone else except for Marijuana "agency"?

>>31984012
ATF cancer

>>31983984
THC doesn't bust you, it's the things also present.

Read up potdude.


OP I'd pick one or the other, as a guy who smoked for 6+ years and gave it up for guns.

>>31984049
I don't know how it is in your state but, a NICS check in Texas is quite literally just sending a few of the required fields on 4473 to the FBI, and waiting for "proceed" "delay" or "denial" response. If you check yes to anything on 11b through 11l we cannot by law transfer a firearm to you. If you answer 11a through 11l correctly we send the check and just wait for the response. So if the FBI has access to who uses marijuana medicinally, and they do their jobs, they'll probably send a denial response. You can call the FBI to protest your result just make sure you have your NTN number. Maybe the law will change in the coming months but I wouldn't count on it. Most of the legal language on 4473 is a result of the Brady Bill.

Will this affect me in Florida?

>>31984095
That's what I'm curious as to find out, whether the FBI has access to medical mj info in AZ. I can't find anything usefull on google.

>>31983962

Just buy the shit illegally until the next election cycle. I live in VA and it ain't gunna be legal for awhile but fuck em. Now that it's legal in Cali I'm gunna buy vac-sealed bags of that good Humboldt shit instead of mids in disguise like we normally get.

>>31984012
>unlawful user
>uses legally

Well, if big daddy government says I can't put X plant into my body, boy howdy I better not do it. They sure do know best. Now excuse me while I tend to my hemlock plants that are perfectly legal to grow and consume

>>31984223
I would, but I already had to expunge a felony from my record, and I'm in no hurry to do it again.

>>31984286
What'd you do?

Just don't smoke. You said you weren't a big smoker, so what's the big deal if you don't smoke?

Besides. Marijuana and guns don't mix.

>>31984309
Caught in dorms with pot, had a card, but "federal" property, led to shenanigans.

>>31984326
It's not the end of the world, but I'm at the point where I'd like to smoking more often, and not go to jail for it

>>31984282
Trump, especially his kids, are very pro 2nd amendment. He is also pro medical marijuana. Some vets use marijuana for pain and ptsd. Maybe he'll change that

>>31984353
Then all I can tell you is don't get caught.

Frankly, I would advise against smoking entirely. It's not good for you, and frankly there is no telling if Trump is going to lay the hammer down on states "legalizing" pot. It's a lot more trouble than it's worth.

>>31984347
This is why the federal government needs to stay out of the prohibition business

Prohibition is about as effective as gun control at stopping crime

DUDE

>>31983962
Move to California you fucking hippy

>>31983962
Just smoke rabbit tobacco.

>>31984326
>Besides. Marijuana and guns don't mix.

As wagonburner I can tell you that burning the herbal Jew and long distance buffalo bowling go hand-in-hand.

>>31983984

Weed doesn't stay in your system for 30 days unless you're smoking it all the time like a nigger or are fat. If you take only a few hits once a week, drink fuck tons of water (which you should be doing anyways), and aren't bound to your computer chair on 4chan youll piss clean in two weeks.

>>31983962
Just don't get a card, retard.

>>31984347
>Smoking in the dorms
Kys
>Consenting to a search or leaving something illegal in an easy to find/reach place
And you're retarded

>>31985001
Or colorado, we have weed and guns here, just buy your mags out if state, or buy them as rebuild kits once you're here.

>>31984222
Yes they do.

If it is in a state or local database, they have access to it.

>>31984326
I-i'm totally not addicted guise! I'm just super fucking asspained I can't do it and will suffer horrible horrible withdrawals until I can smoke again in 18 hours! Marijuana is totally not habit-forming guise, ignore all my Weed Culture clothing and paraphernelia!

>>31985547
You sound a bit asspained yourself, friend.

>>31985547
Do you have any sources to back this up? This is essentially what I'm looking for.

>>31985529
Didn't consent to shit, got ratted out by a cuck RA and they had a warrant.

>>31985946
>do you have any sources to back this up?
Yes.

Every state that issues a weed card (either rec or medical) maintains a database of who they issued it to.

Every federal enforcement agency (FBI, CIA, DIA, DEA, CBP, US Marshals) either has open access to the metadata from every database, or can subpoena or search via warrant individual records.

Medical cards are protected via HIPAA in every state that issues a medical card (since HIPAA is a federal law that protects any and all medical information). Recreational cards are not.

The two states that I am familiar with the laws on recreational use (OR and CO), they do maintain a database of recreational purchasers for those without weed cards (you have to show a valid government-issued ID card to buy from a dispensary). These are protected by state law, but can still be subpoena'd or searched with a warrant.

There are currently two lawsuits filed by the Federal government against states with a legalized marijuana system (CA and WA, both suits are over medical use). During the process, CA was subpoena'd for the entire list of everyone ever issued a medical card. So far there have been no arrests made in conjunction with this investigation, but the info is now out and available to every Federal agency.

Furthermore, the entirety of WA's weed card databases were leaked by a WA state employee last year, and was at least briefly available on wikileaks.

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>be me
>absolutely miserable, stuck on heavy opiates for pain
>medical marijuana passes, decided to give it a try
>helps considerably with the pain, doesn't completely end it but I'm,able to work again
>can't legally buy guns anymore
>technically a felon for continuing to do so
Fuck the Feds

>>31986103
So what's causing the pain?

Is there any way for the cause of the pain to be treated, instead of treating the symptom?

>>31986396
trauma from car accident

the surgeries to fix it are more dangerous than the condition I'm in. no point desu. nerve anesthetics every 2 weeks help a bit but it's never enough. the tolerance I developed for opiates really fucked me.

>>31986416
Yah, that tolerance is why I asked.

Spinal injury? Cuz...honestly, everything else the risk is worth it IMO. I'm in a similar circumstance, got my leg crushed when an IED flipped my truck in Iraq. It's mostly usable now but always feels like someone's pouring lava over it due to extensive nerve damage. Which is still an improvement from where it was. Next step is amputation when I develop enough of a tolerance to fetanyl, since I've been through all the other opioids.

>>31986021
>Yes. [I have sources}

provides no sources.

>>31984495
>DUDE
WEED

So glad Nevada legalized recreational use. Don't have to give up my guns for a medical card now, fuck yeah!

>>31986491
Would I get an answer for this by calling police, LGS or FBI?

>>31985946
I live in AZ and have my card. Have literally bought a gun when I was stoned and there was no problems.

>>31988243
by filling out a 4473, post receiving your med card?

>>31988294
Yep

>>31988118
Please do none of those.. they will file a report. Nothing on your record but it will be there if other networked departments look you up.

>>31988373
Interesting... thinking about getting a med card but i don't want to lose any rights.

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I live in TX and smoke every day after i get off work, still go to the range weekly, obviously i just don't tell them anything on the 4473, but I have no idea how the MMJ database works, sorry m8.

Here's a novel idea OP. Why not just not be the bottom bitch of society and don't smoke pot?

>>31983962
i don't like weed at all personally but i voted yes on 205, it was sad to see it struck down. i just get bothered by how the same people who talk about how much damage weed causes in the same hour talk about theyre gonna get fk up later drinking

>>31988886
>2016
>telling me what to put in my body
>not worse than telling me i can't own objects to defend myself

>>31988903
this

>>31984282
>>uses legally

Still illegal at a federal level.

>>31988903
Fuck off degenerate. Oh BTW, I'm here in the valley and voted against your shit prop.

>>31989202
Lol
Prop 1?

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>>31989202
>Implying I'm not in based Colorado
>hearing freedom ring in national forests

>>31983984
cbd are the shit that give you gravelhead
>cbd
>same benefits
kill yourself

>>31989202
>im for freedom and liberty except if its something i dont like

>>31989325
cbd does help with pain. I have scoliosis so my upper back is permanently fucked, spine curves to the side and I can feel the cold nerves being pinched on bad days.
the cannabinoids other than thc had the best effect for me, the pain is still there but it somehow helps with the psychological load of having the pain, and somehow helps me from lashing out at people i love from the pain.

>tfw ill never be able to join the military because rucking would make it infinitely worse

>>31983962
Just don't smoke. Or make it a very rare thing.

I'm was in the same boat. Maybe smoked 2 or 3 times a year until we legalized it.

>>31989202

What was the name of the dealer that fucked your mother, anon

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>>31989457
That's kinda the problem, I go to Amsterdam once or twice a year, mushrooms and pot all the way, but the prop205 had me excited, and now that seems like a no-go, I figured I'd check it out with the medical route.

>>31983962
no no no choose one you picky fucking faggot. weed isnt gonna save you from getting robbed by tyrone and his homies.

>>31983962
>just find a private dealer in the streets
problem solved dillhole

>>31989325
cbd is a fucking joke

>>31989457
>we
kek

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>>31985064
>herbal jew
>hue

>>31985547
the only people who get addicted to weed are some younger people who smoke it wayy too much and have no self control, forming really bad everyday habits with it
, older manchildren with no lives anyway and people who have mental health issues that leave them predisposed to developing addictions to anything.
Its a lie to say its not addictive, but its bullshit to say its a monster

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>>31988373
>>31988243
Congratulations. You just admitted to a felony on an ATF Steven Universe discussion forum.

>>31986021
>they do maintain a database of recreational purchasers for those without weed cards

colorado does not do this.

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>>31983962
>work at gun shop
>(literal) niggers come into shop
>pot leaf t-shirts on
>want to buy hi-point (yes literally hi-point .45's)
>get denied
>why mang?
>your shirt
>ohhhhhh shieeet
>overhear one nigger to other on his way out
>"i'll come back with a different shirt next time cuz"
>yeah nah though
>suddenly Ian from forgotten weapons comes in
>sell him an AK trigger and call it a day

>>31991390

Poor Ian. I'm sure he has busybody shit to do but noo you wanted a fucking photo.

>>31989770
Here's an idea, I'd like to consume drugs and also have funs. I mean, why can't I do blow and acid and pew pew with my ak? They're both recreational.

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>>31991559
I was afraid to ask but, he was really fucking friendly. We shot the shit for a while, he was in no rush, it was a gud day.

>>31991559
IBcopypasta of snobby IRL celeb story

>>31991595
no pasta, he was in last saturday. he is sighted in my state frequently

>>31983962

Do you carry?
Because if you do, and you shoot someone in self defense, but you happen to have smoked in the past 30 days, you'll go to jail

>>31983962
I wouldn't risk it. Just buy the same way you always have, and be careful when in possession.

If you live in a state with legal grow operations, will working for one have any effect on your ability to own/purchase guns?
I'm thinking of moving to Colorado and it looks like there's a fair amount of jobs working with growers, but I don't want to take such a job if it'll put me on a government shitlist.

>>31992078
why do you fucking retards think 4chin is a good place to ask for legal advice? oh wait

>>31991696
It's posts like these that really let you know how utterly powerless the feds feel now that like 25% of the country told them to fuck off over pot.

To anybody wondering...they're not going to drug test you after a DGU, or come after you for having a medical card, or any other stupid shit. By the time they even get a warrant to peek at the medical card records, the shit will have been made legal nationwide due to the number of jurisdictions refusing to enforce.

>>31984049
No. I know guys with CA cards that have bought guns in AZ and it never came up when their 4473 was submitted. Also, just because you have a card doesn't mean you actually smoke. In reality, there is no way for them to know unless there is some form of criminal record involving it.

>>31984347
Are you talking about AF dorms?

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>>31983962
In Nevada, our medical card is part of our driver's license. I don't know how other states else handle the licensing of patients, but if you're required to have your MMJ card as part of your state ID, then forget ever buying a gun from an FFL or getting a CCW permit. You'll be denied so fucking quick, and on the spot.

You have to decide what you like more: guns or drugs.

I picked guns myself.

>>31986021
metadata from a database... so the schema? how useful

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>>31993471
Question 2 just passed. Wait until Jan 1.

>>31993429
Nyet, college, ASU