/meg/

Serious question: How antsy will terrorists become after Trumps election?

Could would see some combat kino as a result?

Can't wait. The best thing to happen was a few NYCers dying so we could kick some ass.

>>31980838

>t. edgy 15 year old

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>watching the Arrival
>suddenly an O-3 character appears
>he starts acting like an E-5

Bad writing in an otherwise good film

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>Father made me swear to join the air force if I went into the military to carry on family tradition
>tfw I want to do HUMINT

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Just graduated from RTC Great Lakes, AMA.

>>31981107

You excited about your impending time in the Navy?

>>31981098
>made me
You enlisted corps?

>>31981143

Considering enlisting, then bootstrapping after my commitment is up. I'd like to know if the military is for me before I commit to being an officer after I finish my degree.

>>31981124
I'm a prospective Nuke, so I won't even see the Fleet for ~18 months. Being "in the Navy" seems far away.

Question: I got ET as my A school. Any insight into how ETN life is compared to MMN and EMN?

>>31981107
How was the PT?

Have to do anything gay? Actually curious.

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Christ

>>31981240

Actually the Army is the fat branch...

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>>31981240
They all get free mobility scooters

>>31981239
The PT was a joke. The program is designed to get couch potatoes and weak fatties to pass the PFA. Starts slow and ramps up gradually.

That being said, if you don't regularly run, start ASAP. We had a couple recruits get ASMO'd for stress fractures.

Nothing gayer than what you'd expect. Expect to shower in front of other dudes.

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>tfw you forget to shave

>>31980838
Edgy Faggot, You never held a gun before in you entire life much less taken a life
P.S leave the Teri killing to Professionals Maybe When your older you can Try to enlist and scrape by BT

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>>31980787
is it possible to go Special forces or close to it without making a career out of the military?
I see in every operator or special forces posts all the guys in there look to be in their mid to late 30s. I wouldnt mind doing it for some time, but Im not looking to go career and I dont want to be bottom of the barrel infantry either

Also, those who are in, whats the current state of the military right now training, education, and purpose wise? Is it a joke and should I not even consider joining or do you enjoy it and feel its worthwhile

>>31981412
A first time enlistment contract is 8 years. If you mean actual special forces, it's 5 active the rest reserve. Keep in mind that SF and SOF are VERY different jobs. SF is making brown people do the work for you, with very little time to be billy badass. If Middle Eastern culture, customs, language and food hold an interest alongside being an incredibly important part of the military, SF is for you.

If you mean SOF, there's different tenures depending on what you want to do, but all contracts are 8 years, usually half active half reserve

If you wanna kick doors, but don't want to go overseas, FBI SWAT, HRT, or local SWAT are always in-demand and are seeing more "combat" than 99.99% of the military nowadays.

The mid to late 30's look is the beard. They are generally expected to not shave to fit in with local customs, and to be harder to pick out as oper8orz

>>31981510
where would say, the Rangers or Recon/marsoc marines fit in with that?
I doubt id ever be Delta or Green Berets

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school is really starting to suck, but ive only got two years left before I get my bachelors. I really wanted to join the military out of high school, but wanted to get some college done first.
Should I sign up for the reserves for the time being? Would I be able to finish school while in them? I really need something new in my life because dicking around at school and a part time job as gotten old, but I dont wont to put a hold on my education when im half way finished

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>>31981374
>3 day weekend
>not shaving

>>31981574
Not that anon, but check out 11x opt40, or 18x with a recruiter, Rangers, SOF, are more into direct action, while SF is supposed to train locals to assist them in their missions.
And, with that mindset of yours you definitely won't. So try to change it.

>>31981607

This situation comes up on /MEG/ quite a bit, but what you want to do is usually a shitty idea and here's why.

>Becoming a reservist will still take you out of college for at least a semester for a shit-tier job (short training), or 2-3 semesters for a more advanced job.

>If you enlist as a reservist, there's usually no going to active duty after that as enlisted. The recruiter will tell you it is possible, but it basically isn't. You could join the guard/reserves now and do ROTC to commission after (this is called SMP), but you need to get started on that right now if that is your goal.

>Being a reservist sucks. It will NOT sate your desire for an interesting life. You will spend 3-12~ months on active orders for your initial basic/job training, then will go back to drilling once a month and doing literally nothing job-related. You will hate it, most people do. The amount of part-timers that want to go active after their job training is staggering, because they get a taste of the lifestyle and then are immediately told they're basically never going to be "really" in the military again.

Grab your balls and either get out of college and enlist, or look into ROTC and commission. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

So is 13F just a glorified 11B?

>>31982093

This is my exact dilemma. I want to deploy at least once as a 1A8x (Airborn Crypto-Linguist), but I'd most likely be doing it for shit pay for a year and some extra pay as a weekend warrior until I graduate and then have to wait to commission anyway.

>>31981270
This picture honestly makes me sad, that guy cant be over 26 yet he probably weights over 300lbs. He'll be dead before he's 50.

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>>31982093
well thanks for the honesty

What are the odds I'll get 1c6x1?

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>not knowing how to swim
>join the navy

Why do people do this?

>>31982617
They fall for the Travel meme

So, theoretically, if I were to have signed a contract that made me an e-3, despite only being able to be an e-2, because of an error on the part of the MEPS liason, how would that end up? I would correct them obviously, since I do my fucking research; but if i wouldn't?

Why do all the bald guys in the military shave their head? Is it a requirement or something?

>>31982867
If they're bald how can they shave?

>>31981107
Didja use any blues cards? Do you have blues cards in basic? WHERE U PUT U RATES LOL

>>31982926
the sides, fucktard

>>31982944
Hey pal, don't get mad at me for asking an honest question.

>>31982961
I just want to know if buzzed sides and bald top is kosher in the armed forces

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Can anybody become SF if they train hard enough?

How much is enough?

>>31983992

It isn't just physical toughness, it's also mental. AFAIK the training is meant to be so grueling, even for top athletes, that most people are going to quit.

>>31983992
If you weren't an athlete in highschool don't even try.

>>31984288
No, I wasn't for shit.

Starting from square one.

>>31984366
If you're serious about it I'd suggest running, picking up a rec sport to stay in shape and try to swim when you can. Build up your endurance, motivation and self confidence so you'll be strong for your challenges.

Good luck anon

>fresh outta high school.
>was quiet and awkward but no one really messed with me as i was among the most physically strong in my school.
>anger problems and i curse alot.
>been in a few fights and got sent to an alternative school for a while.
>know both Army and Marine grunts, but a Marine taught me how to shoot.
>have done mma in the past.
>near sighted and need to wear contact lenses.
Stuck choosing between Marines 03XX or Army 11x with opt 40 if im lucky. Advice?

>>31984664


There's no luck involved with choosing an Army MOS, anon. Either you qualify and wait for it, or you don't.

A ranger contract is the vastly superior option, if you must go infantry.

Also you sound like a massive edgelord.

>>31981574
Rangers, Recon and the Raiders are all door kickers

Rangers will often roll with SF and Delta to give them support, but a major part of their job is raiding compounds and looking for HVT's

Force Recon do alot of deep recon, but are also specialists in boarding and securing a possibly hostile ship

The Marine Raiders are difficult to explain, because they have no set doctrine. They could do anything from a raid to a patrol, to reconnaissance. Not really recommended unless you're sure you want to be a Marine and nothing else

>>31982617
For the spiffy uniforms. The Navy is the fashion show branch.

>>31982942
The card is orange now.
>tfw no rate
>tfw NOS

>>31981574
Also, green berets are the SF. Any unit that is referred to as "SF" is likely a "special operations force" (SOF)

>>31982194
Were you dropped on your head as a child? 13F sits in the back with arty and relays information to the gun crew. 11b walks around and occasionally gets shot at

Very few jobs are as different than those two

>>31983992
Theoretically yes. Realistically, very VERY few people have the mental fortitude to train hard enough to get to SFAS, let alone pass it

>>31984664
As most people will tell you, never go marines

However, you sound like you have the mental insufficiencies and anger issues along with the raw physical strength that being a marine grunt requires, and I think you'd fit right in

>>31985063

>Very few jobs are as different than those two

Considering that most jobs never even leave the wire, no, not really. 13F is the only 13-series that regularly has to be out front to do their jobs, and as a result tended to get wrapped up into the "basically infantry" role during the last two wars.

The only people who think jobs like 13F and 19D are massively different from 11B are infantrymen. Everyone else realizes that the most recent conflicts have pretty much made them all do the same shit, since there haven't been any "real" doctrinally supported battles to fight.

>>31982817
Shut your mouth you idiot. Dont say anything.

>>31983017
They do it cause other wise they look like a friar.

How long would it take for a beginner to get good at swimming

IE.) 9 minute 450m side stroke?

>>31981270
>Air National Guard
Holy shit, Air fucks. Get it together.

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>>31982378

>>31983992
its not as much physical as it is mental, like everyone always says.
You dont think about it being mental until its
>run for X amount of miles until you puke
>followed by push ups until you puke again
>followed by land nav that if you fuck up enough youre kicked out
>then you run so more after that
and so on. Its not so much just PT, but the thought of having so much to handle both psychically and mentally without a break. Iif you can just zone out and take it one at a time its easier

asked this a couple threads ago but got nothing, is there a height limit?
t.6'9"

>>31986367
you'll be fine

>>31981192
Enjoy your time in the Rickover, and try not to kill yourself. Get your UIs done while you're still in indoc/life skills. it sounds nerdy as hell but look up navy cadences on youtube and listen to them when you run your PRT and the weekly 5ks. it helps a ton with shaving time off your run.
you'll never get your hands dirty but you'll do a ton of paperwork.

>>31987885
trying to remember all the possible tips I can
some of these aren't even nuke specific but here goes
you have a 6 month grace period after you graduate boot camp to exchange your uniforms for a different size if any of them don't fit anymore, ask your SLPO for an exchange form and go try on new sizes at the uniform shop
don't wear the belt you were issued with your NSUs, it looks like shit. buy one of the fabric belts and the enlisted insignia belt buckle at the uniform shop
buy shirt stays
don't buy corfam shoes, they're for gays
the estimated time it'll take to complete a homework assignment they give you are almost always wrong, assume it'll take longer
keep your room clean
don't underage drink, or I will laugh at you at your public masting and then you will get separated
friends are overrated, just stay in your BEQ and play video games

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>>31980787
looking at 37a (psyop) anyone have any insight into what it would be like and how hard is it to get in since they apparently have spec ops requirements

>>31988108

I know multiple guys in 37a. They're mostly fairly smart and in decent shape, but they aren't Bruce Lee or anything. It's one of the only sof jobs you can have as a reservist.

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>>31980787
You should join Donetsk Militia pindos

>>31988211
Well Motorola is dead now, so no.

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>>31988309
Iron Givi stil alive

>>31981082
>O-3 being anything other than a colossal fuck up, constantly getting in trouble off duty and not giving a shit on shift

Sounds about right to me.

>>31981082
>ive never been in the military but i keep talking like i have

>>31987885
>ton of paperwork
Why so much paperwork?
Also I already sing cadences in my head whenever I run. It's really effective, and good advice.
What are UI's?

>>31987997
I'm of age, but underage drinking has been the talk around here as of late. They're apparently taking violations of phases and breaking rules really seriously right now. Thanks for all the advice, anon.

Is there anything you can do if you have minor arthritis? Why can't I fly a helicopter if my knees hurt after running 5 miles?

>>31989995
You'll do a ton of paperwork because ETs are in charge of all the safety equipment and basically supervise the reactor plant as a whole, so everything you do has to be very well documented.
Wingate will probably give you a UI (under instruction) sheet tomorrow, you have to be taught how to stand each watch at NNPTC. You won't stand them during A school, only between A school and power school. It's important to get them done because lots of SLPOs won't let you go to phase 2 liberty without having all of them done. It's not bad, there are 13 watches to do and each one takes an hour. It's easy to get them done within the 2-3 weeks you'll spend in indoc/cleaning crew/life skills.

We just had ~13 people publicly captain's masted for underage drinking/violation of phase/providing alcohol to minors, that's why everyone's talking about that shit. Only two of them managed to stay in the program (as E2s of shame), and it's because they're females and they cried. Two got separated altogether and the rest got turned into E-1 PAC seamen, AKA paint chippers.

so how is Client Systems for the air force? its a decent job right?

>>31990158
Roger the fuck that. I'll keep my nose clean.
Paperwork is fine, I suppose. Not like there's much of a choice now anyways.
I appreciate all the information, anon. You've been very helpful.

If you don't mind helping more, I have questions.
How long will each phase last? What is there to do here besides vidya games and working out? Are SLPO's typically there to help you or dick you over?

>>31990452
phase 2 starts 2 weeks after you get in the rickover (usually 4-5 weeks after you get here) lasts another 4 weeks, and then you spend the rest of your time at phase 3 unless you really fuck up and get reduced in phase
depends what you like to do, MWR (the organization that runs the liberty lounge) has something organized every weekend that you can sign up for. it ranges from kayaking to skydiving.
you can sign up to requalify on the M9 and qualify on the M4 for ~$200, and it actually includes an entire day of practice instead of you being handed a gun for 5 minutes. good way to make your ribbon rack prettier.
there's always volunteer shit to do on weekends, and if you do 250 hours of volunteering while in the nuclear pipeline you get a volunteer ribbon for your rack
SLPOs are there to help, they're pretty cool. they will dick you over if you're a cunt, but basically don't fail classes, your PFA, or be a general shitbag and SLPOs can basically be your friends. chief mahon is not representative of SLPOs, he's kind of a cunt
go to patriot's point, you can go tour an aircraft carrier and a submarine for free if you go in uniform
there's a pretty big car scene around here, buy a miata or something and go autocross on the weekends

>>31981107
ready to fuck some A school sluts?

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>joined the Navy in May
>almost done with nerd rate A school
>just got my orders
>going to Okinawa
>going to be at a fucking shore command
>mfw

>>31990250
It's tech support

>>31991513
shit nigga im in sasebo. welcome to the shit
rate?

>>31991542
IT, my sponsor says that I'll be out to sea probably only 3-6 months total out of my three years here, because the department occasionally sends out some of their team to support training missions.

Which is perfect for getting that sea warfare pin, in case I wanna stay in for more than 4 years.

Dick is ROCK HARD, can't fuckin wait.

>>31991513
Enjoy the Nip pussy

If you do NUPOC and end up being a total fuckup and fail Nuke school, what happens?

Considering the military lately. I already have a bachelor's and honestly I hate that field now that I'm in it, but I don't want to buy another degree when I'm still paying off the first. Would the military slingshot me into another career field? Or is that just a trick to get people to join up

>>31991853
From what I heard they redesignate you to wherever they need officers, usually into SWOs or if you're lucky and get through NAMI maybe aviation or even the smaller designators, Don't count on it though, most likely SWO. They may let you separate as well but if you owe them money I have no idea how that would work

>>31991890
So I could do a stealth swap into Intel? Is that part of SWO general or its own designator?

>>31991440
lmao
he's a nuke, the field is like 5% women
we have one barracks out of like 7 that holds women, and it's half full

>>31991913
If you want to do intel (((failing))) nuke school isn't the way. Apply through OCS. You'd have to get lucky for a slot and whether that field would consider you. The navy might just decide to cut you loose if you wash out of nuke school too. Happens with aviators who wash out.

Intel is separate from SWO though there are SWO-IP/IWs which do a tour as a SWO then go IP/IW or vice versa.

>>31991948
Alright thanks, I'm not planning on failing Nuke school was just curious how it all works

I got to tour the submarine and it was somewhat confusing. The guy who was giving the tour seemed to be saying that the sub officer has to command a lot of stressful stuff at once but at the same time was saying that the enlisted on subs were so good at their jobs that the officers aren't necessary

>>31991984
I toured the sub. The guys inside looked miserable. Fuck that
Selling out our youth for blood money.

>>31991624
be glad you got a shore command. FDNF sucks non skid cock. CTR here.
>>31991930
sounds like the ship. i dont see a problem

>>31992022
Yeah they kinda did. I toured a fast attack and I think he was describing circumstances where you're in a port at periscope depth and the contact map is full, which is probably a pretty busy time

I guess I gotta analyze my motivations for doing this. If I were on my own, I'd drop out and enlist as a CTN or something like that. I'm only really finishing my degree because my parents are extremely insistent on it. I don't really think I'm officer material or capable of commanding a submarine you feel me. Maybe they're just overselling how much shit you have to keep track of at once, but I think I prefer being told what to do to a degree

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>>31984905
>For the spiffy uniforms. The Navy is the fashion show branch.

That's one of the reasons I want to enlist in the Navy. Their uniforms are pretty iconic.

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>>31980787
I'm looking to join the Marines as infantry in about 6-8 months. As far as fitness goes, I think I'm pretty unfit and a weakling.

I'm doing 55 crunches, 5 pull-ups, and a 27 minute 3-mile. I also want to get my push-ups up of which I can do 35 in one go.

I'm 5"9' and weigh 115 (underweight), but luckily I have barely any body fat.

What sort of improvement is realistically possible for me within 6-8 months? Could I be at least a 2nd class marine by the time I go to basic? Am I gay?

Enlisted men:
Did your HS grades ever come up, at any point in time, for any reason?

>>31992239
Just worry about ASVAB scores and whether you have a diploma or not

>>31992223
To correct myself: 5 chin-ups and 3 pull-ups. Do chin-ups count on the PFT?

>>31992239
Lolno.

All that matters is your ERB.

>>31992223
actual Marine here, get 24 or under 3 mile, 23 pullps, 120 crunches and youll be fine. be happy being miserable. get ready to hike a lot.
lastly, gain some weight. they wont take yu underweight. you can be gay, thats ok now. no one cares about body fat if you can get a 285 or higher on the PFT/CFT.

but remember the Marines pass you if you get a passing score, no matter how many times you have to do it.

just remember, dont be a bitch out there.

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>>31992223
Are you gay? Yes.

You slightly exceed minimums, so no real worries. They know everyone isn't a PT super stud, it's your job to not be a complete slob when you join. They'll do the rest, believe me. You're fine, you have the right attitude tho, push yourself.

Source: former Infantry Marine

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>>31992267
Aye aye boys

>>31992263
It doesn't care what way your hands are facing.

You drop hang, and have to get your chin above the bar 20 times. I've even seen guys switch grips on the bar, they don't care.

>>31992288
>>31992263
Thanks. I've been worried I may not be able to hack it when I get to basic.

>>31992312
That's strange. I've always thought chin-ups were way easier than pull-ups. Hey, I'll take it

When people say they are working on quals in the context of the Navy, are those written assignments or something else?

>>31992346
Most guys do think chin ups are easier. I'm just saying when I was in you could do it either way. Different guys had their own preference.

Also you better bump them out. If you show any weakness they will mark you at -1. You always gotta do 1 more, for the corps.

>>31992364
Its a packet (PQS) with line items for signatures. A signature means you've been "properly trained" on whatever the line said. For example on a basic DC qual a line item would be "Demonstrate proper donning of an SCBA". After you get every signature you take a test and sometimes an oral board. Quals can range from simple shit that takes 5 minutes to a warfare pin that takes months. Just do them.

>>31992458
Thanks

>>31991874
I have a bachelors too. I'm trying to get into the navy. They keep trying to talk to me about going officer, but I don't really like the officer designators. You can definitely get a lot of training in either enlisted or officer.

I decided to join up like fucking 6 months ago.
They told me "Well wait until we need you"

I'm fucking dying here.

Can anyone comfort me?
They told me that my aptitude testing was "Very competitive"
Yet here I am

>>31993170
Tell your recruiter to stop dicking you around

>>31993184
I'm going on Tuesday to ask just that.

I'm dying here.
I have a college degree.
They told me they were starving for anyone remotely educated

>>31993200
US? Branch?

>>31993209
Canshit actually.

I'm trying to go Intel and they said branch doesn't matter

Every person I talked to tried to suck my dick about wanting me.
But I'm still fucking waiting

What's the average time from signing up to going to BCT in the army? My lease is up in January how long should I plan to be leaving on the streets lads?

I wanna be a 68w btw

>>31993564
As soon as you get your fucking paperwork.

There's a new class of whiskeys every 2 weeks and they're big classes.

I shipped in 3 weeks and thats including waiting for my shit to ship over from overseas like my birth records and shit (parents live over seas for DoD work).

>>31993564
Further more your lease can be terminated before its up. The government can tell your land lord to et-a-dik.

Do I just tell my recruiter I need out of a lease then? The idea of fucking over my apartments pleases me.

>>31993612
You really want to shit on your apartment then wait to ship until this lease it up and start a new Lease.

Your recruiter will ask you if you have any leases and shit. He'll take care of the rest with you at that point. Its something recruiters will bring up don't sweat it. If they forget just mention it, not rocket surgery.

>>31993237
In that case idk, my answer was more related to the US where there's almost always need

>>31993645
Tell me your USA advice

Canada is nothing but a fucking midget trying to act tall

>>31980787
I'm 24 and looking to join either the Army or the Marines. I need some excitement in my life. I would also like to get a bachelor degree while serving. I'm also married to a Saudi woman and on paper had to convert to Islam even though i don't believe in any of that shit Christian or Muslim. Would that cause some problems while trying to inlist? I also broke my right hand in 4 places a while ago. Will they look at that type of stuff?

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If you aint infantry, you aint shit

>>31993778
t. Bodybag

So when is the next war? Peacetime is fucking gay

>>31993675
Oh I was just saying for him to tell his reporter to stop dicking him around since at least in the US there's always ship dates and so on so it shouldn't take 6 fucking months but I'm not sure how it works in Canada

>>31993700
You sound like a dumbass Jesus Christ join the Marines.

>>31993828
I'm him and anything

They told me that the trade was full for the time being

Luckily Trudeau authorized bigger military spending
Glorious Trump should only reinforce that

In Canada only like 1 in 100 get to go Intel
With the increased need, I hope I can get in

Is Force Recon a meme? They sound cool on paper but I've never seen anything good about them.

>>31993836
Are the Marines all dumbasses or something?

>>31994613
No they are the best armed force.

Only armchair POG faggots hate them cos they aint them

If I volunteer to join for free will they let me in automatically?

Which branch is the biggest meme?

>>31994769
Marines.

You get treated the worst, have the worst living conditions, and get paid exactly the same as a Soldier who doesn't have to put up with half the shit you do.

>>31990250
Probably 2nd worst of all the Cyber jobs, but better than most jobs in the AF. It's easy with lots of downtime, but you're literally going to be the guy crawling under the Captain's desk trying to make his printer work.

Not a bad start if you want a future career in IT. I'd rather do that than be Security Forces or eat shit working 6 12s on the line as MX.

>>31981192
You ignored us when we told you not to go nuke and now you're asking for advice? I suppose you volunteered subs as well?

i just signed my contract for 35n ,anybody have some advice for me?

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Any ausfags got any experience with ADF?

I got my bach degree and wanna enlist, which branch is best?

Thinking of doing intel, what kind of work can I expect?

Any experience with ADFA near UNSW or Duntroon in Canberra? Whats the atmosphere like?

Also, off topic but how competitive is being a pilot likely to be? If I wanted to get training in big 4 engine craft so that I can transition to commercial jobs after my stint, would the sniff that out of me and kick me to the kurb?

Does having a GED really come into play?

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>>31991513
>>31991624
You fucked up. Big time.
First off you always always always need to go to a ship first. Its so important as a young sailor.
Second off you mean ESWS pin and its ship specific. If you are going on carriers 1 day then destroyers the next it doesnt transfer.

>>31992081
>be glad you got a shore command
No he shouldnt and neither should you. Be glad youre forward deployed.

>>31992157
>I'd drop out and enlist as a CTN or something like that
>I'm only really finishing my degree because my parents are extremely insistent on it
How about you grow some nuts and do what you want. Its your life

>>31993629
>rocket surgery
I had this short black popeye looking EN1 in boot who used to yell this at people when they fucked up

>>31993867
>Is Force Recon a meme?
Yes. The marines in general are a meme.

>>31994769
See above. Marines.

>>31996208
>Be glad youre forward deployed.
you might be right but the grass is always greener in the young sailors mind

>>31993824
Mexico-America Electronic Boogiloo

>>31994848
What's the worst?

My knee hurts after running for 20 minutes, is that normal?

>>31997645
Are you fat

>>31997948
No, just haven't run much in the past couple weeks

18X to A or strait 18A? Recruiter tells me that going 18A does not guarantee you officer position in SF even if you do everything at the top of your class. He said complete 18X and you will have a better shot at being an 18A. I am 27, have a bachelors in computer science and engineering already.
Also - Any point in buying good boots before signing the contract, or do you have to wear standard issue?

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Is it possible to be a lifer with a comfy job like Loadmaster or Boom Op in the Air Force? Or would they eventually force you out into staff?

>>31997516
Probably Cyber Surety.
They say it's cyber security, but don't be fooled. You barely even touch the network/servers, and really spend most of your time dealing with shit like locks, safes, compliance, and lots of paperwork.

It shouldn't really even be considered a cyber job, it's pretty much just admin BS through and through.

If I enlist in the military and I already have a bachelor's degree, will the military still pay for me to get a degree while/after I'm serving?

>>31998272
While being a loadmaster or boom op would be cool as shit, the real "comfy" jobs are all the admin jobs.

You do very little actual work, and as long as you can take the AF's BS, you can bang out 20 years no problem.
You just have to be able to deal with the reality of working a mostly deadend job with a very low skill ceiling.

Like I always say, sign for 4. You can always re-enlist, but there's a big difference between working a job you hate for 3 years vs 5.

>>31998562
Yes. All branches get the GI Bill after 36 months of service, and I know that the AF will pay up to $4500 annually for tuition every year you're still in.

Any reason you aren't commissioning?

>>31998192
He's trying to strongarm you into a position you don't want.

>>31998626
I have a B.A. in history with a minor in political science. I doubt that qualifies me to be an officer.

>>31998626
How long are admin jobs usually stationed overseas, or is it the same across all enlisted jobs, and being a loadmaster would have the same chance of being in a base overseas for years? I'd love to be stationed somewhere very foreign like east Asia or south Africa

>>31998655
It actually does.
You submit a package to a board for OTS. They take a lot of things into account, and while your degree might not be as desired as a STEM major, you can still commission. If you're going to enlist anyway, why not try?

>>31998684
Loadmasters generally operate out of a single base, but you'll go all over the place. Probably one of the best jobs if you want to travel a lot. Admin jobs are stationed just like all enlisted jobs, so you have a chance of being stationed overseas, however it's anything but guaranteed. Overseas assignments are 365 day short tours or 2 year extended.

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What is your opinion on POL (petroleum, oil and lubricant) related jobs? I'm thinking about army 92l or air force 2F0X1. I'm doing a chemical eng degree, I want get out Jew york before getting my bachelor.

>>31998726
Alright, i'll stick to trying to get load then. I went to the recruiter a few days ago and said that Load and Boom were jobs on this list of his that I could get pretty easily due to openings so i'm going back there soon and hoping I get one of those

>>31998735
Oh, if you're sure you can get load, do it.

Plus, you can retrain after a few years, so you can still do something interesting with the latter part of your career.
I just say that because once you make Tech, you're not gonna be out there actually doing, you become management.

>>31998730
>Fuels
You're kind of a glorified gas station operator. For the first few years your job is going to be gassing up jets, rain or shine.
Then, maybe you can get moved to the lab or something.

>>31998775
Are there any good jobs a tech can do? The idea of being in a very travel oriented job and suddenly being forced into management because I was good at the job turns me off a bit.
I guess at that point I could just cross train to 3D1X2 or something and have a fairly relaxed IT job

Which support guys get to do the most coolguy stuff?

Right now I'm looking at 15-series, 25-series, and 35-series, but I'll pick some shit like 12B if these all end up being gay desk jobs. Ideally I'd like about 50% desk job 50% coolguy.

What do

>>31998829
>3D1X2
That's me!

Though also, look at it this way. On average, someone will make Tech at their 8-10 year mark. You might have a family/kids by then and want to start settling down.

Crosstraining to 3D1X2 or 3D0X2 wouldn't be a bad idea, but basically anywhere a Tech/Master is going to be doing mostly management stuff, unless you snag a special duty (MTI, MTL, Instructor, etc.). I was thinking crosstraining mostly because your work will change, and you won't be doing the same stuff you had for a decade prior.

Sorry in advance for the blog post.
In high school my plan was to join the military after graduating. After graduating I put it off and kinda just fucked around partying and decided to go to college instead. I graduate from college next month and am now considering joining the Air Force.

How bad will my past partying/weed smoking hurt me? Even though I quit a few years ago, I smoked a lot. Kind of nervous that I won't be eligible to enlist, or maybe not eligible for a security clearance

>>31998898
>How bad will my past partying/weed smoking hurt me?

How much did you smoke? What job do you want? Be honest here, and I'll tell you what to tell the recruiter/MEPS.

>>31998817
Considering that I did really well on the asvab, do you think fuel is worth the hassle. I heard that logistic is hell.

>>31998898
They aren't omniscient. If you don't have a record then you'll be good to go.

Secret security clearance should be fine also if you haven't been arrested.

But Top Secret could be tough since they'd possibly interview people who knew you in college and they could admit to drinking or drug usage. Also, if you've ever had an issue with that and an employer took note, you would be better off telling them in the first place.

A good rule of thumb is that the military won't know what you don't tell them but if you're getting investigated for TS/SCI, then they're gonna find some dirt. Fortunately, not having TS doesn't disqualify you from too many jobs.

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>>31998929
What did you get faggot? Unless you got a 99 AFQT like me you better stfu.

>>31998959
95 AFQT my autism is not as high as yours

>>31998929
The requirement for Fuels is like 44 if that tells you anything.

If you just wanna get your degree? Admin job with lots of downtime, probably would let you do your classwork at work.

Otherwise I'd choose something more technical, they seem to like their jobs the best.

>>31998914
Almost every day for about two years. I'm looking at cyber systems operations and maybe transferring to cyber warfare operations.

>>31998933
If I lie and get caught, I'm fucked though, right? Never got in trouble for it though

>>31998893
Oh ok, makes sense!
Also if it's not too much trouble could you help explain retirement pay since i'm considering the AF as a career? I'm not sure of the average enlisted rank at 20 years so I have no idea what the kind of pay would be.

>>31995124
>don't sign up for the job makes you a petty officer before you're out of diapers, a chief in 6-8 years, throws $60-100k at you every time you reenlist, and gives you skills that directly translate to the private sector and can start you off at close to 6 figures without a degree
top kek
all you have to do is not be retarded and not be a lazy cunt. yes you will work. It's the fucking military, not a vacation cruise cunt.

>>31998983
Lol maybe you should think about 92S bro. Only autists can flourish in a thinking man's position.

>>31998992
>If I lie and get caught, I'm fucked though, right?
How do you plan on getting caught you tard? Just fucking lie. How the fuck would they know you're lying?

But if you'll feel more comfortable, tell them the truth, fill out a shit ton of paperwork for waivers, wait a few months, and then have them laugh you out the door after they tell you that your waiver was denied. Fucking moron.

>>31998992
>Almost every day for about two years

Eeeehhh I'd say you did a few times, like 5. For 3D0X2, they're going to put you in for a TS, and you need to be sure that your references aren't going to totally throw you under the bus. They can't prove that you did or did not, though, they can only approve or deny your clearance.

Whatever your story is, that's your story for the rest of your federal career. When people start changing stories is when the real red flags go up.

>>31999008
At 20 years it's half of your base pay.

Most people are either going to be E-6 or E-7 at retirement.

>>31999029
That seems awfully low, for that pay it sounds better to just stay in the service

>>31999013
>>31999018
Would you say it's common to lie about past drug use? Just one of those secrets that everyone knows, but doesn't talk about?

>>31998990
I got an eletronic technician degree while in high school, is this field more promising? I just don't want to start from zero.

>>31998992

Pot use doesn't matter for a TS as long as you aren't still doing it. Just disclose it and move on.

>>31999041
>get paid ~$30-40k a year to retire at the age of 38 while retaining all the benefits and being able to start a new career that will also pay out retirement
eh

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>>31999008
>>31999041
The AF advancement is slow.
If you want to saty in longer or retire and actually be able to live off it you need to choose a very difficult MOS/rate preferably in another branch. Some can easily be e-8/9 at 20 and can choose to stay in longer if they like.
Thats the trade off with the AF. The 20 years are much easier but your wallet will suffer cause advancement is so much slower.

>>31999056
Yes you faggot. Is this your first time here? Always lie.

>>31999076
?
Unless I did my math wrong E-6 at 20 years / 2 is only like $24k a year
>>31999090
I don't necessarily have a problem with staying longer, since the benefits seem nice, but would you mind giving some examples of these other MOS you're talking about?

>>31999029
>>31999041

Staying in only makes sense if you aren't planning to start a second career, really. If you hop over into another job you can draw both your new paycheck + retirement, and then eventually retire a second time for double pensions.

>>31999056
If you have a TS, you don't "lie" but you reveal only the absolute bare minimum. Like "Yeah I've done it a few times before but I didn't like it that much and I've moved on." Of course, that won't matter if your references are dipshits who sell you out. More importantly, if your references knew you at college or wherever, investigators would probably get the names of some other people who knew you from your references and interview them, so something is bound to show up.

Basically, if you want to get a TS, pick references that didn't know about your drug use and knew no one who knew about your drug use, and then admit the bare minimum to get through. Drug use is only disqualifying if it is current, if they find out you intentionally didn't disclose it, or if it has caused documented problems in the past.

Just don't pick a job that needs a TS if you're so freaked out about it. You seem like you're too dumb to tell a good lie desu. So why don't you just pick something where there's no chance of failure?

>>31999076
You only get 15-20k a year after you retire. It's good but if you want something greater in life you'll probably need another job after the military. Also, don't get divorced because she'll be getting all of that.

>>31999109

E6 retirement is the lowest possible, but it would be around $24k pension + healthcare for life, and usually a pretty decent disability check depending on how messed up you are.

It's enough to live on if you have a paid off house from your time in service, at which point you can just not work again after 40~.

Most people don't do that though, they pick up another job and just have a few thousand dollars in fun money to throw around every month until they die.

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>>31999109
>I don't necessarily have a problem with staying longer
You may not have a choice. If youre only E-6 you get forced out at 20. You aint got a choice.

Well the extreme example of this would be going 18x in the army. If you go in and get selected you get auto promoted to E-5. So at 2 years in youre already an E-5. Youll be E-6 at the latest by 6 years in. E7 around 10-12years. E-8 around 15-18 years. And it could be even faster if youre shit hot. Lots of difficult/undermanned jobs are like that. NUKE in the navy sucks ass and everyone gets out. So because of that you advance insnaely fast. Its common to see E-7s with less than 10 years in.

>>31999144
I think your advice has helped me out a lot
Load for like 10-15 years if I enjoy it, cross into 3D and then get out at 20 and hopefully get a good IT job, since in those 5 years I could get a few certs at the very least

>>31999207

Everyone thinks they're gonna go for 20, but only a few actually make it there. Good luck.

So in freshman year of college I was handed this milk drink and drank some of it, turns out it had pot in it. I didn't feel a thing but acted kind of funny to fit in. I have maintained since then that I've never used pot but I guess if the TS guys find the dude who gave me the drink they may view it otherwise. How boned am I? I'd imagine if they find out about that incident and come to ask me about it I'd have shown pretty bad judgment in the whole scenario

Can the investigators doing your TS have access to old text messages?

>>31999153
Why does nuke in the navy suck ass?

>>31999350
No

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Is it true that female enlisted ranks are treated completely different from male enlisted ranks?

Do company grades and senior enlisted really treat E-3 females differently from males?

>>31999461
i mean, they fuck them
so yes?

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>>31999461
>you will never have as much power as a junior enlisted chick

Is it sex change time? Time for those sweet female PFT regs.

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>>31999302
>>31999350
You 2 are fucking retarded. This isnt the MiB. They dont fucking care.

>>31999368
>Why does nuke in the navy suck ass?
Loads of reasons mate. pic related

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>>31980787
Was looking into Air Force OSI as an officer...

I have academic training in counter intelligence, analysis, and interrogation.

I have had an internship/job at an international research firm as well as being in a prestigious politics fellowship as an undergraduate, and a 3.8+ GPA.

What are my chances at commissioning as an officer and has anyone here had interaction with AFOSI?

>>31999770

>I have academic training in counter intelligence, analysis, and interrogation

No, you have an international relations degree and think that equates to having mastered those subjects. Go put in an OTS packet anyway.

>>31999461
Just about the same as you'd find in the civ world.
Some supervisors give their females more leeway, others (good ones) hold them to the exact same standards.

In some cases its better than on the outside, since there are some hard and fast rules/standards that you simply can't break.

The big thing is the whole anti-sexual assault and harassment debacle, because a single off color comment can ruin your career if you offend a female.

>>31999069
Then try for something more relevant, like RF trans or another 3D job. Or the electrician AFSC, can't pull it off the top of my head but I think it's 3E something. You'll be able to apply stuff that you learned in your electronics course.
You could always go open electrical, but then you risk getting some ghey flightline swaptronics avionics job.

Basically, if you have electronics skill, going fuels would be a waste. Until you make E-5, you're basically working at a full-service gas station for airplanes.

Got an appointment to see a Marine recruiter tomorrow, any tips? What should I look out for?

I want to go Infantry by the way.

>>32000221
Tell him you want to kill people. He won't give a fuck. What I more or less did.

t. Former muhreen infantry

What's the ratio of male to female linguists?

>>31999623
>unironically taking life advice from anonymous strangers on a Laotian shadow puppetry forum

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>>31990020
>helicopter goes down
>you have to hike 15 miles to exfil
>your face

>>32001908
>Laotian shadow puppetry forum
Quickest way to spot a redditor hands down.

If you arent going to take advice from /meg/ than why are you here?

>>32002203
>asian hobbycrafts forum meme is reddit

When the fuck did this become a thing?

>>32002442
About 2 years ago? Its literally not funny anymore.

>>31999109
>>31999143
sorry, I'm a nuke and I was working off being an E9 after 20 years
I don't know how advancement is for other rates/branches but if you're an E6 after 20 years you're a shitbag.

>>32002607
>>31999368
>>31999153
>>31995124
>>31991984
>>31991948
>>31991930
>>31987997
WTF IS NUKE?

Like as in a nukuler Sub?
Sounds pretty comfy

>>31999114
So basically, lie at MEPS, and "i did it once but quit in freshman year" on SF86?

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>>32002516
>its instead of it's
>literally being used incorrectly

Spotted the ledditfag.

>>32003271
I dont know how any of that makes me reddit but what i do know is that im part of the 1% of this place that actually doesnt use reddit and pretend.

>>32002607
>if you're an E6 after 20 years you're a shitbag
Or just fat.

>>32002759
If you're a claustrophile like me then yes, SOME aspects of it CAN be comfy, but it's still a REALLY SHITTY job to have, no matter what you do onna sub (for fast attacks anyway; boomer sailors i've met all seem generally a bit happier)

>>32001908
That screencap is pretty spot-on though, except for the jobs part. PLENTY of civilian jobs for ex-nukes.

>>32006034
Plenty of civilian jobs for other fields that don't suck so much during your time in.

>>31999770
As a current 35d who joined with a 2.9gpa in early childhood development, I think youll have a good shot at your goals.

>>32006355
That is also true

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>need to get top secret clearance
>have no friends for them to reference
>have no past partners and am a virgin
>have no social media or online presence

Am I fucked

Also I torrent A LOT

>>32008093
Welcome to the club. I just gave them my dad's friends and family members that aren't blood-related. Hopefully it'll go without a hitch, but if they ask my references for more references, it'd be a dead end. I ship in Jan.

I've heard there's tons of spergs in intel with TS, so maybe they'll be familiar with our situation.

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>>32008306
I read that they ask about all past relationships

I wonder if they'll laugh behind my back when I say I've never been in one

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here comes dat /meg/ oh shit waddup

So I'm graduating meme college with a meme degree in Biochemistry next semester. I was in the process of applying to medical school but that really doesn't interest me anymore. I did want to get into emergency medicine, but I don't feel like spending another 10 years getting to that point. And I'd like a little more excitment than that. Plus I want to learn skills and gain comradery that medical school really doesn't provide.

I was looking into a 68W with an option 40. I figure that might really help me get my rocks off. Currently bike around 5-10 miles per day to get to and from school. The last time I ran a mile it was around 6:30 give or take. The main problem I see currently is my strength. I can only squat around 180, bench 135, deadlift 225. Should I even worry about that at all?

Any predictions on how hard its gonna be to enlist next year? I've got tattoos all the way down to my wrists, which were too far down for the current restrictions and recruiters couldn't really move forward with me(plus I do want to graduate).

>>32008363
The security interviewer will just fly over the SF-86 to confirm your info. Keep in mind these guys are experienced and have seen everything. They won't give a shit (at least mine didn't), unless there's a red flag, for example, meeting with friends in Russia, being in huge debt, etc.

>>32008458
Do they actually check your internet history

>>32008418
>The main problem I see currently is my strength.
>Should I even worry about that at all?

Focus on endurance since you'll be needing that the most. Push-ups, sit-ups, and running is primarily what you should do daily.

>>32008501
Dude, they're not gonna raid your house and seize your computers

The interview is done at MEPS and it's all about the SF-86. Takes like 5 minutes

Unless you're a Chinese spy or something, it'll go smoothly.

>>32008501
Yes. It's my job to do that. It's called your digital footprint.

>>32008570
What does it involve

>>32008570
Does 11/12b have to go through this?

>>32008573
What you say on Facebook. Any text you've sent past 2009. Any email linked to a credit card. Certain types of pornography. IPs connected to your residence.

You're the one that put your life on a public data base.

>>32008613
>What you say on Facebook. Any text you've sent past 2009. Any email linked to a credit card. Certain types of pornography. IPs connected to your residence.
wew

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>>32008613
>Certain types of pornography. IPs connected to your residence

no way

>>32008640
>Any text you've sent past 2009

time to get fucked

>>32008613
Now that VR porn is taking off, do you have to use a VR headset when investigating someone?

>>32008613
>anyone ever getting in the Army ever anymore

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>>32008613
>>32008656
>mfw I've only ever used pre paid brick phones

>>32008418
You may need a waiver or to get them removed as far as the tats go, I don't know what the army regulation is

>>32008631
>>32008640
>>32008656
>>32008671
>>32008681
>>32008686

I'm fucking with you kids. For fun. Kind of.

They don't check that stuff.

But I was involved in Intel, knew some people who knew a lot more than I did, and the government does have all that on databases, and it is called your digital footprint.

>>32008613
Yeah, right.

Just gonna say that there are a lot of us with TS who are less than squeaky clean.

>>32008715
I literally just deleted all my emails you cunt

>>32008725
Lmao. That's some old school 4chan shit. Mwihahaha.

>>32008715
You sure got me. Probably not likely able to get in anyways due to "suicidal thoughts" when I was fuckin' 10 years old and didn't even know what suicide was. Its bullshit but its out of my control.

>>32008501
As with most job interviews, they'll root around your social media, but your internet history is safe as long as you're not flagged by the fbi for child porn or some shit

>>32008711
What does it take to get a waiver? I assume they don't get them out to future 11B's with a HS diploma only

>>32002607
>if you're an E6 after 20 years you're a shitbag

In the AF this is a really common thing.
The average time to make E6 is like 10 years, and now that they've started boarding for Master, it's gotten even harder to get that extra stripe.
The upside is that your life doesn't suck while you're in. I have 2 friends who went through the nuke program, and the one who cross rated to AM is 100x happier.

>>32008715
I just passed a magnet through my computer
thanks a lot I just got fired too

>>32008725
Hillary?

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>>32008823

>>31982378
I'm 300lbs and nowhere near that fat. He's probably around 500lbs

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So I've been trying to become a police officer for about two years now with little luck and I'm really getting sick of applying to new departments.

Are there any current or former MP's here that can tell me about what it's like? I'm 24 and have a Bachelor's Degree if that means anything.

>>32009060
Not an MP, but I know that it's really easy to get Security Forces, and you do cop stuff.

Is 29E a good job

can you eat vegan in the military without being a cuck or a muslim?

>>32009740
No. Vegetarian yes.

Vegans simply aren't wanted. Maybe if you're a turbo log and get a cushy job and able to buy all your own food. But the military chow halls and MREs will not cater to your disease.

>>32009765
No that's fine. Can you be veggie with a cool guy job?

>>32009789
Cool guy job?

>>32009357
what is 29E even

>>32009799
H I G H S P E E D

How hard is it to get a cti rate in the navy right now? Do i have to commit before im promised it?

>>32009131
Oh yeah? I've worked in security for about two years, only just recently resigned. I guess I could look into that

Will a previous suicide attempt prevent me from getting a TS clearance? I'm pretty sure it's on record and I was properly treated and put on antidepressants. I am currently off of them now and have had no further attempt or tendencies.

>>32010432
pretty sure that would prevent you from joining at all

>>32010487
I'm already in the reserves but want to go Intel when my first contract is up. So I'm already in and my chain of command is aware of it. They just swept it under the rug because they know I'm fine now.

>>32010487

Not other guy, but what if incident happened nearly a decade ago when I was 10 years old? I'm hoping they could realize I was just a lil brat that didn't get what he wanted so he threw a stupid tantrum.

>>31980787
Is enlisting as 35M a mistake right now?

>>32008418
>>32008799
Bump in general.

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If I want to join the Air National Guard could I go to a normal Air Force recruiter?

Anyone know about joining foreign english-speaking armies? I do not want to join Swedens army as i don't like this country anymore. Tried learning Russian and German for about 2 years but it didn't go well so i gave up on any non-english speaking army.

I would guess that the standards to join any other army would be citizenship in x country and the bodily standards altough i've seen it varies.

I'm curious about any experiences if anyone has done this.

>>31999302
>>31999350
Post your SSN and I can look you up on NSANet to see if you're good to go.

>18 years as a 4.0+ student
>2 years of job experience as a flight instructor
>wrong career
>"ADD" diagnosis and on meds for 3 months
>Haven't taken any in ~7 months
>Working full time in IT since I stopped
>have letters from new doctor and current boss about not being some spastic tweak

How fucked am I?

>>32001460
I've been in for about 20. Been in an intel unit for about 5 years. In my current unit, the ratio of female to male linguists seems noticeably higher than normal jobs.

I'm a 3D and we have one female and about 20 dudes.

>>32008093
Why don't you just give names of high school teachers? That's what I did.... in 1994.

>>32008501
Yeah. They already contacted your ISP and have subpoenaed all your traffic, which is redundant, because they already hacked your personal computer and have been monitoring everything you say anyway.

PS - You can't join if you are actually retarded.

>>32011163
>implying
My HS teachers were all degenerate druggies or old ass cunts who are likely dead now.

Then again, I was born in 94

>>32011052
No. You need to talk to a guard recruiter.

Or you can call up an AD recruiter and he will tell you the same thing.

>>32011216
>My HS teachers were all degenerate druggies or old ass cunts who are likely dead now.
Maybe you should've taken harder classes instead of bottom tier shit.

>>32011266
>Maybe you should've taken harder classes instead of bottom tier shit.
Lol, those were AP courses I ended up claiming credit for at uni...

>>32011283
Wait... you've taken college courses? Why not put professors down, then?

>tfw just in time for the slaughtering of Israel

>>32011283
So your AP teachers were all degenerate losers?

>>32011304
Oh, I'm not the same guy. In fact, I'm not even sure why I responded to your original post.

Sorry m8

>>32011324
A pretty good amount. None that I would actually put down as a reference.

>>32011335
List any member of family with different last name. Tell those people if the military calls asking that to tell them they are a friend of your family.

I did it. My fucking grandma on mom's side was a reference.

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>>31988211
You mean real life RIDF?

>>31980787

I just enlisted in August as a 35M with option 40 contract. I don't know anyone who has been HUMINT and I was curious as to what I will be doing outside of what it says on the GoArmy website. Can anyone offer any thoughts on being a 35M if I make it to the 75th Ranger Reg.?

>>32011595
Also how rare is it to get 35 series jobs with option 40? I heard people say it's 10 or less slots per month for all MOS, but infantry. I don't think it really matters, but I was curious. I figured it must be a small amount. I received a 99 on the ASVAB and a 144 GT, and was allowed to pick any job essentially.

>>32011595
>>32011639
Are you the faggot that started the Rhodesia thread? Shut the fuck up and wait for an answer. /K/s a slower board. Stop trying to force it.

>>32011664
No... I just posted on this board for the first time in my life, honestly.

>>32011664
Okay, I just saw the Rhodesia thread in the catalog, so I know what you're referring to now. No that wasn't me.

>>32011127
Air Guard by the way.
I haven't even started my enlistment process yet, and after 12 months of non-medication I apparently might not need a waiver. How long will it take for me to even get to MEPS?

>>32011892
>I apparently might not need a waiver
You will need a waiver, but those are easy as fuck to get for ADD

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So, I just swore into DEP. Can military members get special deals on credit cards like students can get. I've been getting mail from discover about student credit cards, but alas I dropped college a little bit ago. Do people in the Air Force reserves get access to similar options? Or do I have to wait until I am out of basic training and in the real Air Force

>>32012626
SCRA waives credit card fees and caps your interest rate at 6%.

>>32012647
But do I get that benefit if I get the card while in DEP?
Literally only reason I ask is because I want a payment method that isn't directly linked to my bank account a la debit card

>>32012647
>>32012695
nvrmd
active duty only

>>32013071
https://www.discover.com/credit-cards/member-benefits/scra-benefits/
>reservists
fuck discover for making me waste the fucking bump limit

If I join a technical MOS with a high ASVAB requirement would I be more likely to be with more "sensible" and "less violent" soldiers or is it pretty much the same as an infantry base

>>32002759
a nuke is a person who operates a nuclear reactor
our aircraft carriers and submarines are all powered by nuclear reactors
some of the subs also carry nuclear missiles but not all of them
it's not comfy, we go through 1.5yrs-2yrs of training whilst trying to avoid suicide either intentionally or inadvertently due to sleep deprivation. you're also surrounded by autists and people with super inflated egos, because we constantly get told we're the smartest enlisted there are and make petty officer 3-6 months after leaving boot camp
and then you get to the ship/boat and stand watch all day, also avoiding dying due to sleep deprivation
if you're on a sub it's even worse because there's a lot of non nuclear shit you have to do, in addition to the zero communication and lack of sunlight or space
we make the most money out of any enlisted person though

Which SOF unit has the biggest deployment rate for new soldiers? I hear rangers get the most direct action missions per year. If you pass into the 75th, what chances do you actually have of being deployed someplace?

>>32013292
I don't know about the army but ITs are definitely less violent than gunner's mates

>>32013414
Show me where he touched you.

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Just found out the barracks I'm being stationed at is the most dilapidated, remote one in the country

Was meant to be demolished last year but they couldn't afford it

Fuck me I am NOT sharing a room

>>32013591
Just get married anon.

>>32013292
I can only speak for the AF, but your comm jobs will often be quite the sperg squad.

Way different than Security Forces or Services, but they're just dumb. The AF really isn't violent.

>>32011065
your cuntry cucked you

sorry sweden, dont bring your shit here

change it from the inside if you hate your country so much

I'm confused.

With the guard, I have to pick a job code, then be trained in that job code, and then more training with that job code, and then how does it affect anything?

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>>32011065
Swedes not liking Sweden is exactly what's wrong with Sweden. It's why you have leaders throwing your great culture into the shitter, and calling it "diversity"

>>32013891
That code is your MOS

You go through basic training, which is the same shit for every MOS, then you go to advanced individual training, which is training for your MOS. Then you're on reserve doing monthly drills (pls stay fit), until shit hits the fan in your state or the president decides to pull troops from your state.

>>32011065
Go join the French Foreign Legion

>>32014000
Thanks anon. I had been looking into the Air Force until my cousin told me about his experiences with the Guard, and I've been trying to wrap my head around it.

It honestly sounds like a complete steal for anyone not wanting to have a 24/7/365 military career

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Help /k/

Thingken hard of enlisting in the army so I have been running a lot in the past two weeks, not a hamplanet or even chubby but I haven't really ran regularly for about year before this. What's a good pace for a mile? I'm pushing out about 6 minutes per mile and clocked in at 12:17 on a personal two mile test.

18 btw, what's a good 2 mile time? I want a good score

>>32014319
>what's a good 2 mile time?
10 seconds faster than your previous time

>>32009060
All I have to tell you is to try and go in as an officer with that degree of yours

Is electronic warfare a good trade

Any opportunities after service? with TS clearance

>>32014319
You have a good two mile time. Full points on the APFT. Either you're lying on the internet(why?) or are an athlete.

>>32014636
>>32014636

>>32013912
how can i like it when the irresponsible immigration policies and PC propaganda isnt ending. not liking the immigration and all the cancer here makes you racist here and thats social suicide.