What is the best simple, low cost, non-try hard tacticool way

>>31980570
get a coat with big pockets

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>>31980570

Chicom chest rigs.

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>>31980570

The USGI Fighting Load Carrier gets a lot of crap, but it's a solid get up. You can usually get full sets for $100ish at local Milsurp stores.

>>31980570
just keep them up your ass

>>31980605
this works too

I pose the same question, but for 12 gauge shotguns.

>>31980570
i think i would like this but is that supposed to go around your neck as a chest rig? if it wears like a satchel i would use that. Otherwise I just put mags in my pockets and dress fancy like in my animes.

>>31980898
shell dispenser

>>31980898
A friend of mine has a PSL magazine pouch that he uses for his Vepr 12 magazines, it works pretty well

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>>31980649
Yo dude, pic related is a lot cheaper and has survived more Infantry, Ranger, and SWCS courses than any other rig.

>>31980649
This.
I got a brand new woodland flc for $25, a triple double woodland mag pouch for $8, and a single us pistol pouch for $2. I have six ar mags and one extra pistol mag, all for around $35, and very light and easy to carry. 10/10 would reccomend this

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>>31980649
>>31980967
Here's the setup

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>>31980570
Chicom rigs, these are as cheap as they get and are spook approved.

>>31980960
Just bought one of these, it's sweet. 6 mags in a pretty small package, holster for a sidearm, 2 water bottles. Only downside is that it smells like feet and it's difficult to move things around once you've closed the pins (mine are kinda old and rusty).

>>31980570
Chicom, FLC, ALICE, or cargo pants/jacket pockets.
Chicoms are $10-$25
FLCs are $10-$50 depending on what you get usually
ALICE is like $25-$50 for a full kit I think

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>>31980570
midway usa is ok if you dont want chicom
its like 10-20 bucks

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>>31980570

>>31980605
this or a sadf 83 chest rig if you dont mind spending a little more.

>>31980932
>>31980943
Any suggestions for affordable shell caddies?

>>31981179
dump pouch full of shells on a belt or strap

>>31980960
I always heard not to put mags in front of your hips because it makes it harder to prone or run

>>31980975

>waffle FROG

Love it.

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>>31980570
Personally, I enjoy pic related. They're pretty damn cheap

>>31980975

Sauce on that jacket.

>>31980898
>>31980898
carrying six shotguns is gonna look autistic no matter how you do it

>>31981138

This, fucking love my SADF rig and battle jacket.

>>31980898
Do you plan in using shell caddies, boxes, shell cards or loose shells?

>>31981407
It left the marines with me

What about this thing...?

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018154825/military-surplus-molle-ii-6-magazine-bandoleer

>>31980898
SHotgun card inside ar mag pouches/chicom rig.

Make your own by cutting up a shell bandoleer and attaching MALE velcro to the card. Add some gorilla glue twixt the two for rigidity.

>>31981699
OSHIT that's smart!

I'm going to go buy a bandoleer and some chicom pouches.

Thanks man!

>>31981676
Hmm not bad, spray paint would help it a lot. And here is something for you, one good turn deserves another after all

http://m.wikihow.com/Tie-a-Hangmans-Noose

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>>31980605
this

>>31981741
No Problem shotgunbro. I know the struggle all too well.

>>31981745
top kek

>>31981761
I was originally going to get one of those competition chest rigs, but it's hard to justify the cost.

I love this because it's a lot cheaper than those shotgun cards individually.

I'm going to pick up some industrial velcro in the morning to attach to my receiver.

Are there any recommended plate carriers with mag pouches attached (green color) for ~~$50?

>>31981934
Depending on if you want to go full retard with it or not.
http://www.beezcombatsystems.com/BCS-Plate-Carrier-Low-Profile-BCS-PC-L.htm

You can fit 4 cards comfortably on here and tie some strings to them. Swap them out as needed from a belt.

>>31980898
Get a Vepr-12 and use a mag carrier.

>>31980898
Cargo sorts with white socks and sandals

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>>31981125
Lol pure win

>>31981983
Nigga, you just changed the shotgun game for me.

I just have a basic 500 right now, not even an SP. I'll eventually get an SP or a 590.

I just like running a shotgun more than a carbine.

>>31982136
Try the 835. Has some parts interchangeability with the 590, takes 3.5 shells. But it lacks a bayo lug.

>>31981125
>when you want to opr8, but youre on a budget.

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>>31981985
>box-magazine shotguns
>unironically
>mfw

>>31982213

What is your gripe with them? Unless you're a competition guy or buying unreliable mags they're pretty good.

>>31981753
how the fuck do you fit 6 mags in that. How much smaller are those GI mags than my Pmags?

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>>31980570

Type 63.

You can put a mag in one of the medical pouches if you're so inclined. I figure 5 on the rig one one in the gun is plenty though.

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>>31982256
>How much smaller are those GI mags than my Pmags?
small enough to make everything smooth sailing.

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>>31981125
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>>31981753
Could you fit 2 Pmags in each pocket?

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>>31982360
>Pmags
never touched the stuff.

>>31982169
Can confirm, I love my 835 which take may extensions without needing a new barrel. Problem is putting a 590 barrel on it means you lose the 3.5" chamber and all the other barrels are 22"-28" long, overbore and $200. You may be able to open a 590 barrel up to 3.5" but I'm not sure, and while mossberg did offer a true 18" for the 835 it isn't listed and you would have to call to confirm. All the 500/590 furniture fits though

>>31982169
>>31983041
Will look into.

I've never had a need for 3.5'' magnum, but honestly I don't see why not.

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>>31982213
Fuck off you stupid faggot

>>31981699
The grenade pouches of the chicom rig hold shells fairly well too. I got 10 rounds of 00 in 2 of the pouches since I am not using them.

>>31982360
Nope, I heard you can stretch them out to get them fit but haven't tried it yet. Might give it a go tomorrow and if that doesn't work I'll get some GI mags.

>>31980570
This chicom pouch seems like a good option, reasonably priced as well. Been thinking about getting one but decided to buy a bunch of $.99 gas mask bags just to use as dump pouch for mags.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M5G9E3N/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_img?_encoding=UTF8&colid=K52J38Z4E9C7&coliid=IBJPHTVAL0UU8

>>31980649
I have one of those in desert, well build for the price ($14 new shipped) but a bit uncomfortable for my taste. I always end up with slack in the bare section up past the top rows of molle and it bugs me to no end. Personally use a chicom now, but for a cheap modular system the FLC is very affordable and isn't air shit.

How would a messenger bag do?

>>31984928

Not great, been to a few classes where someone would have a messenger bag or one of those slings that just has one open bag on it and it is very obviously uncomfortable to use.

Like with a thigh rig, moving around is awkward and slow. A full-tilt sprint can't be done since you're using one arm to hold it in place. Once you've stopped and need to grab your mags, your shit has moved around on your body so much that you need to re-orient it before accessing it. Finally, the stuff inside is so mixed up you're fumbling with mag changes.

I did see one guy who neatly organize his messenger bag-like sling so that the contents wouldn't get jumbled around, but all of the other problems were still very present.

Buy a 12 dollar chicom rig and wear a backpack and you'll be more operator than 90% of the gearqueers online.

>>31981125
/fa/ as fuck

>>31980570
Voodoo Tactical makes a great 3 pocket 6 magazine bandolier. They fit PMAGs just fine.

>>31982394
what kind of rig is pictured here?

>>31985003
I found some type 63's for $15 online shipped. I already have a go bag. I will be an operator soon.

>>31981409
Underrated post

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>>31981041
>killedbytalibanprisoners/10

Seriously why take gear advice from agency salesmen just because they got to take a rifle with them on boy-scout duty?

The honest truth is those rigs came free with the child prostitute they purchased at the local bazaar because the duffel bag of black budget tax dollars they were throwing around was the first non-counterfeit American currency that the 106yr old Ismaili shopkeeper had seen since in his entire life.

Sometimes you've got to sweeten the deal and with all of the warlords and opium traffickers these two planned on shoving in their pockets, there wouldn't be anymore room for magazines.

What would be recommended for Vz. 58 mags?

>>31980570
>best
Look that depends on what your mission and environment are.

Here's a discussion about this: www.lightfighter.net/topic/belt-kit-vs-chest-rig

Basically, belt is better for longer/rural/dismounted ops, chest rig is better for shorter/urban/mounted ops. Belt gets in the way in a vehicle, but chest rig doesn't let you get as low while prone and makes you hotter--the last part being not applicable if you already are wearing plates.

I thought it was well understood that mission should drive the gear, and it's just dumb to believe that there is some universal "best".

>>31980975

Do those Polartec grid jackets fit normal, run small or large?

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>>31980570
Two in the gun taped together, four in a four cell bandolier. The bandolier shouldn't cost you more than $5.

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>>31987498
You going to back those claims up or just stew in your own salt?

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Messenger bags. decent at $25-30, don't stand out as blatantly carrying, will hold much more than six mags. they're also currently in style and come in many different colors and materials. you can blend right into that crowd and nobody would even think twice.

They're also acceptable at the office in lieu of a briefcase.

You can get alice harness and mag pouches for under $20, cant beat that

>>31987682
What's a good messenger bag for that price?

My shitty Rothco bag is finally falling apart and it uses velcro fasteners which I don't like. Velcro fasters are great for smaller pouches on bags, but it's not good for the main flap.

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>>31987498
Why would a warlord be in a market and if you're figuratively putting people in your pocket that wouldn't effect how many magazines you could carry, are you retarded?
Soviets also used them and they weren't exactly on friendly terms with the local leaders.

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>>31980570
I have that bandolier. It's decent.

>>31987747
no they physically shoved them in their pockets

>>31980960

What's this called

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>>31987726


I have personally purchased pic related twice
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002E0MO58/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

the reason for the first one was the fact that after fifteen years of constant use the strap finally broke and it was getting thread bare.

fairly certain this one is a mil surplus out of Israel, one of their paratrooper bags.

basic features are metal clasps (no velcro anywhere)
some metal buttons,
single added pouch large enough to store a full size pistol plus a box of ammo.
three large pockets (one cloth divider, one actually separate)
actually decently heavy canvas (1/8" at least)
original one was made in India.

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>>31981068
>it's difficult to move things around once you've closed the pins
Get it where you want, then make sure to tie off the pouches to the belt with 550. The draw monster will eat your shit otherwise.

>>31981242
While this is true, real suspender operators open the belt to full length or close to it and hike the suspenders way up. Pseudo chest riggish. It's a fuck ass ton more comfortable like that with a ruck and when on a knee or in the prone. Also, it's easier to throw over an IBA.

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>>31982394
>using the canteen pouch for magazines

>>31987847
Thanks!

I've been needing a replacement for this Rothco one for a while. I need to carry my stationary and random stuff throughout the day and I like the easy access of messenger bags.

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I've been looking at this thing. It's on sale on Amazon and looks neat. It's not so operator tactical looking.
https://www.amazon.com/Loklode-Surplus-Military-Magazine-Shoulder/dp/B01M5G9E3N/ref=sr_1_100?s=sports-and-fitness&ie=UTF8&qid=1479069662&sr=1-100&keywords=chest+rig

>>31987820
Her name is Alice

>>31981407
USMC Grid Fleece top

>>31980570
cargo pockets

>>31981753
>dat bk9

my nigga

>>31988029
Fuck now I need this too. You bastard.

>>31981122
I saw some guy on full30 talking about this. I picked up a chicom when someone posted a link to them on sale for like $10 each but they take too much time to put on, so something like this thats just a single strap might be nice.

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>>31980649
I fucking hated these. Op buy any kind that you feel comfortable in. I use a plate carrier with three pouches. I've used the interceptor and iotv in actual combat operations and that sort of set up provides armor coverage and an easy way to access your mags. The only downside to having gear o mn your chest or belly area is going prone is uncomfortable with a hard plate and mags underneath where most your weight is.

Don't put a bunch of faggot patches or useless shit and make your stuff look uniform.

I have a k9 patch because I deployed three times as a legit explosive detection k9 handler and I earned it.

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>>31987257
it's a Repo of the Crye chestrig they refuse to release to the normies.

>>31987894
It gets the job done with the limited space I have and keeps my front single stack.

>>31981068
>it smells like feet
get persil laundry detergent, hydrogen peroxide and a 5 gallon bucket.

soak, agitate, rinse and repeat. Persil is pricey soap, but it works like a fucking savage against dirt and stink, but doesnt eat up fabric and gear.

>>31988180
Holy faggot.

>>31987894
canteen pounches are the perfect size to hold 75 rounders tho

>operators use chicom
Notice how all those pictures are like 15 years old, before any of the new stuff you decry was invented because those operators asked for it

>>31987726
look for Manhattan Portage on Ebay. sometimes you can score one for really cheap, even though they are expensive as fuck new.

timbuk2 the same way.

be warned however, the retards selling hem cant use a fucking measuring tape to save their goddamned lives and will purposely give you the wrong (bigger) size to push a sale.

>>31988360
Muh new shit.
Trust me guy I've had the best of the best kits and I still like the Chicoms.

>>31987483

Type 63 best type.

>>31988302
You must have patches.

>>31987682
If I'm carrying mags on body, I'd have my rifle as well. That argument is asinine.

>>31990411
I guess you could fit an SBR with a folding stock in a messenger bag and have a bunch of mags with it.

>>31980605

only holds 3 mags

>>31990547
Holds more than that
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>>31980649
>>31980960

>>31980570
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/2-new-us-military-surplus-mag-pouches-army-digital?a=1711991

>>31987526
Chicom type 56 (3 mags) or 81 (4 mags) works great, SADF rig if you're willing to shill out a bit more.

>>31987820
the system was All-purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment (ALICE)

The setup is called your LBE (Load Bearing Equipment)

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>>31981125
Just made one similar. Definitely not as good but still pretty neat. Pic related

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>>31982027
If it's stupid but it works, it's not stupid

>>31993776
the stitching sucks so you know his mom didn't sew it.

>>31992980
What's this?

>>31980570

I'm personally a fan of the responder bag concept:

https://www.amazon.com/SOG-Specialty-Knives-YPM001OG-008-Responder/dp/B00XPV4C7S

You don't have to strap on anything or fiddle with straps, so for the intended use as a sort of first responder tactical bag its great; have mags and then whatever first aid or handcuffs or flashlight or fleshlight in the main pocket and then carry a radio, some chewing gun, condoms, whatever in the end pockets and still hold 6 AR/AK mags and still not loving police it's the D.R.E.

But seriously tho it's also legit because it's just low-key enough that you can wear it in 'public' without drawing undue attention but it doesn't give off any try-hard hipstery leather man-purse vibes either.

It's somewhere between a cartridge box and possibles bag but taken to the 21st century which is pretty cool.

I have a few, for range bags, a trunk-gun bag, and I even use one for paintball when using magfed markers.

>>31994078

Not stupid in the first place desu.

>>31980570
Get a couple of standalone buckle straps, and a MOLLE II Sustainment Pouch.

The strap that goes through the top channel is for your shoulder, the bottom strap goes around or above your hips.

Overall cost? Around $25. Much more comfortable and upgradeable than any Chinese POS, while lighter than most military-issue harnesses.

>https://www.amazon.com/MOLLE-Woodland-Sustainment-Genuine-Military/dp/B005FCH31W/ref=pd_sim_468_5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=ZNC4CABHR6XWG5WXTFWC
>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010RH6O7I/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_1?th=1

>>31982394
Don't. PMAGs are so pointless.

I don't know why people buy PMAGs and stipple them, when you could just take some skateboard tape or other gritty tape and wrap the bottom of your STANAGs with them, then put on a pair of gloves and do the same to the fingers.

The same-substance contact creates friction, resulting in a very positive grip, while the tape on the gloves prevents the tape on the mags from tearing apart the gloves.

>>31994326
honestly man, that does not look low-key at all.

>>31982274
huh, never thought to try it. it does seem to work, though.

>>31995705

This. Regular ass metal mags with some of that pseudo rock texture spraypaint. Then spray paint whatever color you want over the texture. Gives you a pretry decent grip on mags.

>>31995727

I have like 12 of them set up exactly like it for various guns/loadouts. Add buckles and duct tape and you're golden.

I'm a huge faggot.

>>31990547
It can hold 6 AR mags without modification. If you want to hold 6 AK mags however, you have to cram your six mags in the pouches, then drench the entire rig in HOT water, the pouches will eventually stretch this way. Removing the rubber liners near the top helps as well.

>>31992980
Its an ALICE suspender setup with the buttpouch from an older-generation SMERSH harness in what looks like avizent fabric. (essentially a Russian copy of ALICE).

The concealed mag vest they used in Heat under their suits