Milsurp 2; the Milsurpening

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>>31977331
I don't know much about Mannlichers, was this originally a Stutzen?

I guess I'll ask here too, what kind of .303 do you guys feed your Enfields? I know Wolf is shit but now I am also hearing that PPU isn't too good either?

I really really want to go a whole thread without MilSurpDude threatening to fuck my dog.

>>31977402
Dude, ppu is literally gods gift to milsurp. I'm kinda sorta joking but they're really the best you can get without paying $1.50 a round for super boutique hunting ammunition

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For $200 I'm happy. Even came with 2 clips of Nazi ammo.

>>31977437
That's good to hear, I'd probably go with PPU regardless just because of the price. Can't wait to take my MkIII to the range for the first time, unfortunately nobody stocks .303 locally so I have to wait for ammo now

>>31977402
PPU is fine, I use their brass exclusively. For bullets I usually use theirs too but every so often I'll find another source that's on sale.

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>>31977364
Maybe, but considering how they got mix-n-matched during refurbs and conversions I don't think there's any way to be sure.

http://www.hungariae.com/Mann95.htm

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>go to pawn shop looking for Springfield 1903, or Smith Corona, I'm not picky
>dude says he has something "on a mauser action"
>interest piqued
>hands me some synthetic bubba job with an oddly familiar bolt handle, but completely alien, heavy, thick, fluted, grey barrel in .308 and a wtf-is-this scope
>look it over...it's a K98 receiver and action...complete with Nazi stamps
>sadness intensifies

In other news, I was told that sarco could help me out. I found this online, but I don't know if I can trust it. Thoughts?

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>>31977607
Have you considered calling to check availability?

>>31977616
"Hours of telephone or internet sales are from 8 to 5, Monday through Friday"
And the line went dead.

>>31977471
>$200
I wish I could find an M95 for that cheap. The only ones I've seen around here are all sold at the same place for at least $400. Come to think of it, everything there is criminally overpriced. Such a shame too, they have a ridiculously vast selection of milsurp.

>>31977594
Eh, probably wasn't guessing by three sling swivel placement on mine. Oh well. Hope it doesn't hurt my hands shooting lefty.

>>31977633
they still sell for $120-150 in my area

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Super happy, about muh k31.

Are stg58 or whatever they are select fire?

>>31977889
You mean the Swiss battle rifle? They were yes. The ones over here in America are not.

>>31977889
Yes, the STG-57 are select fire. There were some imported into the US called the AMT and they were semi only.

>>31978004
>>31977963
Neat, maybe they could be imported again, they are ugly as fuck but man are they cool.

>>31978059
Wouldn't count on it, but fire off a email to SIG USA and maybe they can start up AMT production again.

>>31978195
A man can dream.

SIG is becoming no better than HK anymore, at least from what I hear.

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>>31978372
H&K are the only company that challenged the ATFs Bullshit in the 80s, and SIG is the only ones fighting them over stuff like their braces and """muzzle brakes""".

Also, SVT 40.

>>31977889

Which overpriced ammo do you buy? Do you handload?

>>31978493
I just mean HKs behavior towards their consumers.

But hey, I learned something today.

What should I buy next an m39, SMLE, mauser, mas 36, bertheir, i need some direction.

>>31978505
I bought a case of gp11, i think it was around 275ish. It was a whike ago tho.

My father has a small reloading set up, one of these days ill get my own.

>>31978549
SMLE

Who doesn't want a sword bayonet?

>>31978574
I think midwayusa still has the cases for around that price.

>>31978599
I need one for my 1903a1 and p17 to.

SMLE sounds nice, id like to a ww1 model first.
>>31978602
I should go buy some more before I have to buy privi or hornady.

>>31977487
When in doubt, go online and buy it out

how get 1903a3 springfield with C stock. I have 2 grando

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Any suggestions for a milsurp pistol? Ideally something with easily-obtained ammo. I've been thinking about a P38, but I wasn't sure if there was anything else I should be looking at.

>>31978783
HI power.

P38 magazime release is kinda wonky.

So I recently got a Yugo mauser, and it seems to have some pitting in the bore. The spiral is clean and clear, but the deeper "grooves" seem to have small dots littered along them. There's nothing extreme like big holes or the like though.

Is this not much to worry about, or should I be concerned?

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>>31978910
How well does it shoot though?

>>31978938

I haven't tested it yet. I just got through cleaning, and I wanted to be sure it was safe to fire first.

>>31978956
Yeah, it's safe. A little pitting in the grooves isn't anything to be concerned about as far as safety.

>>31978823
I don't mind a heel release, really. My main concern with a Hi-Power is the mag capacity. Unfortunately, I live in CA and can't have a mag over 10 rounds. I know I could get some limited-capacity mags, but somehow it kind of defeats the purpose of a double-stack. If I were to look for one, what's a fair price? Also, should I try for a factory-new or a milsurp?

>>31978984

Good to hear. It's only near the muzzle too; the receiver end is absolutely flawless. It also hasn't been rebored, and the muzzle has no signs of wear at all (it also passes the usual "bullet doesn't fit in the muzzle" test for mausers).

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>>31978637
>p17
This triggers muh autism. It's a M1917, not a P17.

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>>31978823
>P38 magazime release is kinda wonky.
How so? You just push it back and the magazine pops out a little so you can grab it and pull it the rest of the way out.

>>31977471
>>31977655
I'll give you an SVT-40 for two M95s if you're willing to drive up to an inconspicuous location on the Canadian border

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Working on a zv61 80% atm

>>31978549
Mas 36, but being the resident Frankaboo I would say that.

Honestly though it depends on why you collect. If you like having a rough representation of history, the SMLE. If you like being a hipster/like esoteric stuff I'd go with the Berthier or a Carcano.

>>31978910
Don't worry too much about it. Pitting is a overblown problem for many people.

>>31979205
Already have a SVT chief.

Now a Ross 1910 or 35m...

>>31978705
Online sites and patience

Are local auctions held weekly worth going to if they have milsurp rifles? Do morons just drive the price up or can you actually get some deals?

>>31979892
Never know till you try. There are a lot of collectors with more money than patience though.

I'm looking to buy a Yugo m48 Mauser. Where should I look? I live near New Orleans, does anyone know any good places to look? Also if somebody could link me some good websites to look. I have around 400$ but I know most m48s can be had for less.

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>mfw sitting on 160 rounds of Wolf in .303
>how bad can it be? I asked.

>>31979976

Ideal price for a Yugo mauser (M48 or M24/47) is around $300 for one in good condition. You should be checking with local gunshops that are known to stock milsurp, along with occasionally checking big names like Cabela's. Cabela often is a complete ripoff, but they can occasionally have good deals on Yugo's and nuggets. The Cabela's near me had a couple of m24/47's in stock last week for $310, and they were in basically pristine condition.

You can also check oddball locations like pawn shops, but they are really hit or miss in terms of stock, quality, and price.

How can one find out if a rifle has seen war? I have this Italian carcano cavalry carbine m91/38 6.5mm. Everything is great and stock from factory on it besides some light pitting in the barrel.

>>31980039
Thanks, I didn't think that big names would stock old surplus rifles.

>>31980051
>Inb4 never fired dropped once lol Italy

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>>31980020
This bad.

>>31979136
Maybe unique is a better term.

Its cool, just not as good as a push button imo.

>>31979114
Im sorry anon, m1917.

>>31978989
I onky mention Hi power because of utility, I have no idea how much theu cost.

>>31980401

Not to mention turns an Enfield bolt into a nugget bolt.

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>>31980401

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While not technically milsurp.

does anyone have experience with IAC and norinco trench gun copies? are they any good? I dont have the funds for a legit trenchgun and I intend on making it a beater innawoods gun so i'd feel bad about scratching up and fucking up a real one.

>>31980489
Heel releases are very common. It's a European thing for some reason.

>>31980564
Yeah, it did that to mine, too. I gave up after 3 shots and gave the rest to a fellow /k/ommando who wanted to try them. They seemed to work better in his SMLE.

>>31980534
Fair enough. They're cool guns and from a brief look, they cost half as much as P38s. Time to do more research.

>>31980598
They're fine. Wood could be a little nicer I suppose.

>>31979205
This is mad temping yo. I have two M95s but want to keep one for myself.

>>31980804
M95 is a Schmidt Reuben right?

>>31979205
would seriously consider this if i lived closer to canada, im in middle california, the drive is just too far

>>31980401
aw man, are you sure your rifle isnt worn out? does it shoot everything else fine? wolf is 174grain, i know some enfields only have 2 groove rifling vs 4 groove and might have different twist rates. what enfield do you have?

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>>31980811
No. It's a Mannlicher.

>>31980401
Thanks again for the Wolf .303 my dude

>>31980954
>>31980954
Id like to handle one, so far I love my k31s .
You ever use a Ross rifle?

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b barrel m39 still available if anyone is interested

near mint condition

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>>31980981
No, handled a sporterized one today but that's it. Trying to get a Mk3 though. We'll see in a few days.

I have a question with the Krag.

I know the big "upshot" of it when it was adopted was the soldier could just open the right trap and top off the gun at any time, but how did they soldier carry their ammo? In a big box of loose rounds?

I picked up a westinghouse 1915t m91 garbage rod for $80, purely as something I can throw corrosive ammo in. Its missing the top part of the stock, the bolt is shit, the ''''bore'''' is more a spotted tube with lines every once in a while.

A good ol russian shitstick is always fun.
Any idea why it wont extract ammo after its been fired?

>>31981010
how much?

>>31977416
That's a super specific sentence

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>>31981218
>Any idea why it wont extract ammo after its been fired?
The extractor is broken?

>>31981211
I'm almost positive they were loose rounds held in pouches on your belt.

>>31981254
I should probably mention, it still happens with my m39 bolt, and i have to push the casing out with the rod. It wont feed used cartridges either.

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>>31981211
>>31981296
Both in enclosed leather pouches with interior loops (see here >>31981254 used to store 7.62x54R) and on cartridge belts like pic related.

>>31981296
>>31981321

Cool, so were clips not yet invented yet for loading?

Got my first Enfield today. No4 Mk2.

>>31981354

I mean, I know the Krag couldn't be loaded by stripper clips, just wondering why the side loading was considered such an ideal.

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>>31981368
Fuck

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>>31981354
They were; pic related was the last Mauser prototype in contention against the Krag-Jorgensen in the 1892 Army trials.

US Army Ordnance board are perpetual fudds; they wanted a rimmed cartridge –which the Krag fed better than the Mauser–and they wanted it to be fed individual rounds with the magazine cutoff holding the 5 rounds as an emergency rapid-fire reserve. They weren't big on rate-of-fire.

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>>31981371
>I know the Krag couldn't be loaded by stripper clips
They actually did develop a stripper-clip adapter for the Krag magazine called the Parkhurst Device. They wereonly briefly adopted because they came into service as the decision was made to adopt the M1901 Springfield.
>picture unrelated, a home-made Krag charger based on the Swiss Schimdt-Rubin system

What's a good price for an Israeli k98 or an FR-8?

>>31981494
>good price
$3-400.

>>31981504
thanks

>>31981477
Thanks. That's really interesting.

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I've always been fascinated with guns and weaponry but it wasn't until recently that I got my first gun (a basic bitch AR).

Now I want to start working on getting American classics, what are some good sites or stores in the Portland area if theres any Oregonians on here?

>>31981413
>and they wanted it to be fed individual rounds with the magazine cutoff holding the 5 rounds as an emergency rapid-fire reserve. They weren't big on rate-of-fire.
You have to understand their mindset. The wars these guns were meant to fight were against the Indians and units maybe hundreds of miles from the nearest train station. There were no trucks or airplanes and the roads were usually pretty bad. To have a unit resupplied takes time. Having your soldiers conserve ammunition is a plus in these situations.

>>31981566
>Having your soldiers conserve ammunition is a plus in these situations.
I'm sure the troopers of the 7th US Cavalry appreciated that.

>>31981595
Strategic failure.

>>31981595
I guess?

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>>31981566
Plus we Americans have always been obsessed with individual marksmanship.

>>31981639
Must be a left over from our Anglo days.

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What's a good babbie's-first-rifle?
I've always had a fetish for the M1 garand and the Nugget. I've browsed /k/ for a few years but I've always lived with filthy no-funs and never really had the opportunity to even go to a range.

Inna Texas.

>>31981639
Would love to chop that down into a deer rifle. Could probably take down a whitetail one shot.

>>31980623
Fine like it just werks kind of thing or fine like a piece of it might rattle off one day?

>>31981550
AR a shit. your best bets in the portland area are cabelas, keiths sporting goods, and j&b firearms. as far as milsurp anyways

>>31981667
>Could probably take down a whitetail one shot.
Everyone knows you need at least a thirty-aught-six to take a quality buck kid.

>>31981665
>What's a good babbie's-first-rifle?
MAS Mle.45

Do enfields come in more widely available cartridges like 308 or 30 06. If not how available is 303?

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>>31981650
Possibly. I also think it represents our "individuality". We love the idea of self sufficiency and what not.
>>31981667
Gonna have to bait harder than that bud.

>>31981700
Thanks, gonna be moving over there soon, is looking for a gun online worth the trouble?

>>31981707
Ishapore 2A/2A1 rifle is a 7.62NATO SMLE.

.303 still has decent availability from commercial manufacturers and occasionally more surplus pops up (I got 900 rounds of Boxer-primed Greek surplus last year).

>>31981695
It works. I wouldn't say anything negative about it aside from some of the finish.

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Any Orlandofags know of good places to get milsurp around here? The only place I know of that has a constantly good selection is in Deland, but they price everything way too high

>>31981735
I just realized it's probably the rifle my grandfather used. He served in the Greek military right after WW2 fighting commies.

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>>31981775
Good chance of it. Greece had lots of Enfields.

>>31981720
If you're gonna order one, sure. If you're looking online for local purchase, most LGS around here don't advertise their whole stock, if at all.

>>31981720
Oh, forgot northwest armory, too. They have a nice selection sometimes for older guns. stupidly busy every time I go there though.

>>31977607
thats incredibly common

Mausers are often used as project actions

Is it possible to find old somewhat historic american milsurp for Moist Nugget/SKS prices?

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So, I've been thinking of picking up a steyr M95 recently or a MAS 36.

anything to look out for with either of these rifles?

>>31981232
I wish I didn't have to be so explicit, anon.

>>31981756
aight good enough fer me

>>31982076
No.
>>31982166
With the Mas avoid the 308 conversions. Pre-Armistice are much more valuable than post war refurbs, but performance wise there isn't much difference.

>>31982166
M95.

How common are M95s in the states.
After buying my k31s ive got a fever only straight pull bolt rifles can cure.

>>31982404
they're cheap AF. anywhere from 175-350. occasionally going into the 500 range. ammo is kind of hard to find and the clips are harder to find than the ammo.

>>31982322
why avoid the .308 conversions?

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Got a great amount of trigger time with this today. I absolutely love every moment of it

>>31982443
Itd be nice to get one for the collection, shame about the ammo and clip scarcity.

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>>31982475
friendo of this anon; shot my nugget and wasr with his sks today

I really need to get a rear pin and cut down this M44 top cover to fit my 91/59. Does anyone happen to have one they want to get rid of? Not having that rear spring in is ruining my aesthetics.

Also awhile back I saw someone had modified a 91/59 on armslist to accept standard nugget bayonets, anyone have experience with this?

how much should i be looking to pay for some cheap 7.62x39 these days? and is wolf ammo absolute shit?

>>31982456
They were done poorly by century and usually fucked up the bedding along with never sizing the bolt face correctly so feeding is unreliable. They're safe, just shitty in every way.

Are SKSs worth more than $400 in all honesty?

>>31982919
Shoot it and find out. Look for ammo on gunbot.

>>31982936
As a collectible yes.

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>>31982979
>when someone breaks in during milsurp photoshoot

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>>31982998

What kind of Enfield should I get? What kind did Lawrence use?

>>31982404
I'm almost certain there was an m95 made into 8mm Mauser. I think it was called the m95m

>>31983071
He used a no.1mk.3 that was presented to him by some sandies as a gift, they I engraved it and what not

>>31983124
There were some conversions, but they are somewhat uncommon. They also did this with Carcanos, and the 98/40 (I think that's the designation).

>>31977402
41.5 grains of N140, a cheap PPU 174gr boat tail and either a PPU or HXP case. I developed the load with Federal 210s but I use pretty much any large rifle primer I can get with no noticeable pressure signs or changes.

>>31980401
Wolf apparently uses .308" diameter bullets in their .303. So basically when you buy Wolf .303 slavic Jews are rubbing thier hands and snickering because they've just sold you ammo that they knew wouldn't even work properly. They make it in full knowledge that it's technically wrong and out of spec, but do it anyway because profits.

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Recent acquisitions:
>1909 Peruvian Mauser
>Minty Type 53
>Like new Hungarian M44, Non-import marked
>Sporterized Kar 88 *gonna restore it*
>Erma M1 Carbine in .22

>>31981010
where are you? state?

>>31983303
why, are 308 bullets cheaper for them or something?

>>31983638
Maybe. Or maybe they just like trolling?

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I'm thinking about getting a Vetterli Carcano conversion. They're extremely cheap, and I like the look. Are they any fun to shoot, or are they just better off as a decoration piece? (Because I wouldn't even mind if it were only useful as the latter.)

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>>31980979
No problem, Jabba. How's your SMLE doing? You get that stock replaced?

>>31980896
My rifle is fine - there's a bit of pitting in the bore, but it eats PPU with no problems. It does have 2-groove rifling, and I have heard the 2-groove is what causes it to keyhole.

>>31983303
Yeah, I figured it was something like that. I just wanted to try it out because cheap .303 made my dick hard.

>>31983740
damn, you said you got sticky bolt from the wolf? i guess ill see how it does in mine, luckily only bought a few boxes so not that invested in the wolf 303 yet

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Why are some k98s yellow and some brown
How do i get a yellow k98

>>31983938
>What is wood?
>What is dye?

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Really need to get a K98 and a Carcano to get my basic WW2 primary rifle collection somewhat done.

I'll suck you off for the svt-40

>>31983938
>>31984145
Some are beech, some are walnut.

>>31983836
Yeah, it stuck pretty firmly. Frankly, it took an uncomfortable amount of force to unlock it, which is why I stopped after three rounds.

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>>31981224
>>31983533
$600, Michigan

>>31983124
Yes there was. I had a sporterized one years ago.

>>31983723
Some say they aren't safe to fire but I think they would be ok with normal loads.

>>31983723
>>31986038
The action is not very strong and they were made as blackpowder guns and then hastily sleeved for emergency service in WW1.

You can probably get away with using some normal rounds, but its not an "if" its a "when" will it pipebomb since the steel quality was shit.

best bet is to just reload 6.5 with blackpower.

>>31983723
Extremely heavy. They basically took a new barrel and lodged into the old one to adapt it to smaller bullets.

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Shouldn't have taken pictures today, too much sunlight.

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>>31987016

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So how hard do you think it would be to rebarrel my 1916 m95 carbine to 7.62x54r.
These things can feed and even fire it.Never did it my self but ive seem proof.So i figure why not just convert it and make something neat.

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>>31986038
>>31986066
>>31986776
Thanks for the info. Hopefully I find one that's in decent enough condition that it won't be totally dangerous.

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>>31987195
>Willfully destroying history

>>31987253
Its a century mismatch not much history left.

>>31987284
....

Do you think it was Century that put them together?

>>31987291
Its got the big ugly century arms stencil importmarks.Stock dont trigger guard and magazine housing don't match bore is shot out..I figure with a 7.62x54r barrel i can bring this thing back to life.Still gonna keep try to keep it looking as close to original as possible.

>>31987195
>>31987332
Do you know how much ammo you could buy instead of wasting on getting a new barrel and finding someone to rebarrel it?

>>31987357
Quite aware of the costs.
7.62x54r is just a lot more available and i really like its straight pull action.So i figure id have a neat project.

>>31986005
ah if i was local i would seriously consider it, i am in cuckfornia

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What the fuck did I buy, /k/? It looks like (and was marketed as) a k98, but the receiver and bolt are matching Gew 98 ones. And it has a fucking diopter sight and refinished stock.

At least I got it for stupid cheap for how nice of a condition it is, but do I have frankenstein's mauser?

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>>31988061
close up of receiver markings

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>>31977416
Don't tempt me to, then.

>>31988061
Bubba special.A slightly tasteful bubba special at that.

>>31988077
What kind of C96 is that?

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My p.38 keeps jamming.
Any ideas?

>>31988142
That must be a manufacturer's defect.
You've got two saftey switches.

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>>31988117
Pre-War Commercial, made right before the Let's Skullfuck the World Empires fiasco started.
>>31988142
I'm afraid it has autism.

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>>31988216
I'm jelly. I would love to own a pre-war Italian Navy contract model, but I'd settle for a commercial one. How much did you pay for it?

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>>31988273
>slabside
>large ring hammer
I see this, I automatically place a 2 at the forefront of the estimated pricerange.

I paid $1600 for mine, but it was in good shape and all matching.

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>>31978989
>>31980534
>>31980608
If you buy a Hi Power, it will probably become your favorite handgun. It did for me.

This is where I got mine, they might come back in stock. There's lots of surplus ones on gunbroker right now if they dont. $450-ish is a good price for one if its used milsurp/police trade in. If new they tend to run around $900-1000. There's also some surplus Hungarian FEG clones floating around, and from what I hear they're almost part compatible (magazines and slides supposedly are interchangeable), but I dont own one so I can't say for sure. The FEG's run about $250-300. There's a bunch on classic and on buds.
>http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1FNHP&name=FN+Belgium+Hi+Power+9mm+Pistol+Standard+Mk+2&groupid=5389
Personally, I like FN, so I opted for the real thing (pic related). I'll probably get a new Mk3 sometime next year.

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>>31988457
>If you buy a Hi Power, it will probably become your favorite handgun.
It was aight, a G19 had no issues superseding it for me.

>>31987016
>>31987098
>>31987253
Just picked up one of these at a gunshow for $350
Also got one of those short 91/24 Carcano for $275 in very good condition.

Anyone know if these were decent buys? I have no clue about the value of these guns but it seemed good to me.

I'd post pics but I'm too damn lazy.

>>31977889
I want a second k31 so i can bubba the fuck out of it

>>31988520
The K31 definitely was. I paid $450 for mine.

>>31988379
Looks like I should start saving.

>>31979841
how much did you pay?

>>31988077
Deets on kar?

>>31988633
$450 or so. It's in less than stellar condition though.

>>31988672
A BNZ '43 that was captured by the Gypsies and had all of its waffenamts peened into oblivion, eagle and all.

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Just took her out to the range an hour ago

>>31988971
is that a 24 47

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>>31979029
its fine. as long as the crown is in good shape you are good to go

>>31981768
AAA, right? Richard is kind of a prick, but he gave me a box of Romanian 8mm once.

>>31989043
Yes, it is! I bought it this time last year at Gander Mountain for $300

>>31979029
the bullet should fit in the muzzle, it just should not go down very much

>>31986005
Is the bolt smooth?

>>31986005
WHere in Michigan lad, i'm in MI too

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Is 150 for a Yugo SKS a decent price?

>>31989272
Yeah.

>>31989272
YES

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>>31983361
>SA Mausers
best decision of my life was to buy a Brazilian 1908. bayonet and muzzle protector included, for 500 bucks

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>>31989288
>>31989289
Here's the copy+paste of the listing:
"Yugoslavian SKS. Not in the best shape, some corrosion but functions perfectly. Cash only, make me an offer."

Here's the only other picture of it.

>>31989272
Sorry, can you repeat yourself? I couldn't understand what you said with all that maple syrup oozing from your mouth.

>>31989317
Looks like the top of the bolt/charging handle is rusted, but its an SKS i can probably get a replacement for fairly cheap right?

>>31989272
Syrup detected

>>31989358
>>31989462
What? I get that y'all are implying I'm Canadian, but I don't understand why.

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Y'all know where I can get some of that krag food?

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>>31987433
i ended up selling it to a bloke in CA

>>31989128
>>31989214
sorry sold. if you ever have a real stiff mosin bolt try polishing it a bit. my VKT action is like butter after some time on the buffing wheel

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>>31989092
Yep, great selection but the pricing on most of it is just obscene. I did buy my Russian SKS from them, all matching and a non-refurb as far as I can tell, but it certainly wasn't a great deal. I do most of my shopping in Oviedo since I'm a UCFfag, but it seems milsurp is hard to come by, though it can be found occasionally

Pic related, all matching 1943 mosin I picked up for $160 last year near UCF

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>>31989588
I wouldn't say obscene, but for someone who carries thousands of dollars in his pocket daily, he should definitely lower most prices.

>cardboard box of Mauser brand Mauser C96s
>tags just say "Very good" "Nice stock"
>no prices
>mfw

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>>31989661
Yeah, you're right, obscene is probably a bad way to put it. It just makes me so sad to think about. All that milsurp rotting away on racks at prices at least $100 more than what they should be.

>looking through revolving racks full of Arisakas
>hope to find a decent Type 38 to take home for a good price
>nothing but endless mediocre condition sporter Type 99s ranging from $400 to $600
>finally find a nice looking Type 38, look at price tag
>$750
>mfw

Is it worth restoring a bubba'd 1903 to look like the one Barry Pepper had in Saving Private Ryan?

>>31989317
>>31989272
Update: I emailed the guy and he said I'd have to beat the 150, how high should I go on this? 200?

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>>31977416
Post pics of your pupper.

>>31989901
Mother fucker realized how low he was.Offer him 175 and ask for more pics of the insides and the bore.

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What happened

>>31989929
Alight thanks. How much do these go for usually? Other listings on armslist are about 400, is that right?

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>>31990185
>>31989929
Update. Dirty as shit but nothing a good clean couldn't fix right? He says it's functions perfect, and that those pictures are pretty old and he cleaned the bore a bit, but wasn't able to do a full clean. At 175 I'm still willing to take the risk. what do you think?

Picture of the action coming up shortly.

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>>31990592
Action/Bolt

>>31978783
polish p64 or bulgarian mak

>>31990592
that is a lot of rust. I would pass

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>>31990592
Jesus fuck 150 is about fucking top dollor for that thing.
Plus its a yugo and the bore aint chrome lined so that thing probably FUCKED.
If you do buy it clean it up slap some crapco stock on it and sale it to a nigger for 350$

>>31990592
Looks worse than it is. I've cleaned up worse.
It will have some minor pitting but that does not affect function or accuracy, just cleaning ease.
Likely the gas lock is rusted in place so that would need to be replaced.

>>31990714
>>31990611
god damn it fuck me. I guess I'll keep looking then. Thanks guys.

>>31990741
I think I'll still pass cause that's some shit I don't wanna mess with for my first gun.

How do you guys store your milsurp? I'm not afraid of theft and cant get a safe because I'm moving in the near future, just want to make sure I'm doing all I can to avoid rust/damage. Only have one rifle and I live in humid as fuck Florida

>>31990746
Be patient, better to go gunless for a little longer than to spend money on something you don't like and are stuck with for a bit. You probably already know that but its hard to wait when you're excited

>>31990746

No, buy it you stupid nigger. It's worth $175 in parts.

At worst, clean off the visible rust at the top of the bore and sell it to a gun store/pawn shop you dislike for $200-300

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I picked up a bubba'd M95 from a VFW flea market for $175, shame that the retard did this to his rifle but oh well. Finding ammo is a bitch. Pic related.
>inb4 that was a stupid buy comments

>>31990876

It was a stupid buy considering just a few years ago I was getting these in original condition for ~$140 shipped and FFL fee

but not a horrible price in current times, but i'd have kept it at $125 imo. but maybe if it helped some veterans or something, then 175

>>31990592
>>31990602

honestly, you could buy it, shoot nothing but corrosive ammo through it, never clean it, and it will still do what SKS was designed to do

>>31983740
>No problem, Jabba. How's your SMLE doing? You get that stock replaced?
No, I ordered a stock online and I was super excited to get it...Until I realized that the stocks that have the metal reinforcing bar at the back wont fit on my version. Dont know if there is a way to make it to but I brought my broken one to a smith whos gunna see if he can do anything. The place I also ordered the other stock I have said they didnt have any of the ones I need but they were buying a bunch of Lee stocks so they said they would keep an eye open. I may have to have someone make me a completely new stock and if thats the case I might part with my Savage No.4 Mk 1*. On the bright side i got my Ishapore .410 SMLE and a bunch of .410 slugs and Buckshot. If you decide to go to the meet in December it will be there

I need some advice, my neighbor is offering me a Madsen M47 issued to the Colombian army chambered in .30-06. The only issue would be that the original stock and iron sights have been bubba'd. Other than what was mentioned before, the overall condition of the rifle was wonderful with no signs of rust. He's offering me $250 but I can probably get him to let it go for less. Before I take this offer, would it be possible to unbubba it?

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>>31991357
>Madsen M47
>Bubbaed
WOW that fucking sucks cock. You are shit out of luck to un-bubba it. They only made like what? 3000? If you can get it for less then 200 they I would buy it

>>31991357
Possible but difficult. Also they tend to break extractors.

>>31991397
>>31991405

It's not too shit as the receiver and most of the original parts are still there, and most of them looked as if there had been only a few hundred rounds fired through it. I was just thankful that whoever decided to "improve" the rifle didn't try and attach a rail or make there own stock for it. The stock that they added has sort of a nice 70's hunting rifle aesthetic. I just wouldn't want it on a rare mil-surp rifle. I also now see that the person also removed the muzzle break.

>>31977331
Thoughts on the Yugo M57 Tok? college poorfag here, most of my other shit is milsurp and I dont yet have a pistol

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>>31991530
>removed the muzzle brake

all bubbas are retards but jesus christ, they should be paying you $250 to take it from their sight

aare there any left handed surplus rifles?

>>31989926
see >>31988077

It's just not safe anymore.

>>31992162
No

>>31992162
No. Just shoot them left handed anyways.

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>>31992347
So long as it's not a goat it's safe. Probably.

>>31992802
You are the least creative and most predictable tripfag on this board. Kill yourself now and give me all of your funs.

>>31993238
No, they're going to stay in the possession of the least creative and most predictable tripfag on this board. :^

>>31993260
Just remember that at one point, I had a K98 and you didn't.

Remember that faggot.

>>31992802
You'd have to fuck all of our goats to even make a dent.

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>>31993270
I'll remember that when I actually shoot mine at the range this year.
>>31993285
I'm hard already.

>>31980020
>tfw sitting on 600+ rounds of Greek surplus
It's a good feel

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>>31988457
Nice, thanks for the info. They always seemed like cool pistols, and the price is a definite bonus. I'll have to keep an eye open.

>>31991125
Fuck, that sucks. I didn't even realize there were different stock variations for the No 1 Mk III. At least you've got another couple of Enfields, I guess. I'll try to get to the December meet, but I won't really know if I can go until closer to the date.

>>31991357
you wont be able to unbubba it, the parts are too rare. but $250 for a 30-06 rifle is a great deal so why not

>>31990602
looks nice overall except that rusty bolt, but that shit looks like super light surface rust...doesnt seem to be any pitting just cosmetic

>>31990592
eh, didnt see that bore pic til just now. it looks like it will be easy to clean, might still shoot decent. for $150 its worth the risk

Why do all of you like cartoon goats?

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bump

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>>31995678
get the fuck out

>>31994891
>all of you
One guy fucks one gote and we all get tarred.

Found a Carl gustaf M96 for 500€
the stock's a bit fucked but everything else is good, owner says it's all matching and in good shooting condition
What's your take on it guys? if I lower the price would it be a good pick?
http://www.naturabuy.fr/CARL-GUSTAF-MODELE-M96-Calibre-6-55x55--item-3538741.html
nevermind the frogspeak, it's just to show the photos of the rifle
keep in mind in french laws this rifle is free of license and registration, aka "ghost gun" since it's a model made before 1900 so prices tend to be inflated

>>31982404
>straight pull

A /k/ommando sold me a nice shape m95 for 250 ish. It shoots really damn nice, but the straight pull bolt is clunky as fuck. I've never shot a k31, so I'm not sure how to compare it, but the straight pull on the m95 was a novelty that wore off quick once I had to fire it and clean it. Mosin bolts are smoother.

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>>31996342
There isn't anything wrong with that stock my Frankish brethren. Just some old scuffs. I think that price is pretty cheap considering you can get them for just a little bit cheaper over here.

>those prices on French guns
You guys need to come here! haha

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>>31996695
Those M95s have a poor reputation for the same reasons Mosins do: they're all refurbs. If you get a non refurb you'll get a much better feeling rifle as they actually cared about how they worked when they were originally put together. During refurb they just cared that it worked.

A K31 is nice and smooth.

>>31996725
I'm portuguese actually, but I am indeed in France
Yeah prices here are godawful for french milsurp, the saying goes that France sold itself out to the Americans, metaphorically and literally, lots of old folks say them MAS 36's were shipped over there for like 50$ a piece ;_;

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>>31996813
I think that's partly because when those guns were sold France had more stringent laws on guns with "military calibers" so it was easier to sell them abroad.

I know there are a lot of French collectors that have French guns exported from the US or Switzerland because even paying import and export fees and finding an import/exporter is still cheaper than buying them in France.

Kinda sad, really. Though, I love French guns so I don't complain about our prices! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>31996864
Yeah there was a dumb-ass restriction on military calibers, that's why there were .222 caliber AR15s instead of .223, gladly that's all over and we can get all the calibers we want

I love the looks of them too, have fun with all that cheap milsurp my friend ;)

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>>31996962
There were a lot of Berthiers and Lebels rechambered to .348 Winchester too for all the same reason.

>>31982443
>>31982480
>mfw I bought 56 clips recently for $60
>gotta clean surface rust off of them and they'll be Ben good to go

>>31997000
>>31997000
yeah and even though they should be unregistered (<1900) they forced them to be registered because there's lots of them are around, same thing for the mausers

I mean, getting them is easy, all you need to do is sign up at a shooting club wait 2 weeks for your license and have it signed by a doctor, but I'd rather have my guns out of a government registry, most people too so that drives up the prices of guns that don't need registration

tl;dr shit sucks yo

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Buying my first Milsurp

Czech VZ.24 With a scrubbed crest, 250.00 (is the crest being not marked bad?)
Or

1953 Hungarian m-44

Ples halp

>>31988520
I got a pretty nice 91/24 last year for $135 and i think i got a good deal on it.

>>31997090
How's the bore/numbers?