"Scary looking guns"

>>31974792
my oldest sister is a flaming lib and claimed my AR15 put more pressure behind the bullet when it fired .223 adding the killing power that my Rem 700 in .223 apparently lacked.

i think life is like a badly written MMORPG with guns for them

>>31974816
She's not a liberal. She's a communist.

Let's not fall in into their manipulation.

>>31974821
"Liberal" = social issues
"Communist" = economic issues

Pls don't confuse two different spectrums and also don't ruin the board with your irrelevant bullshit

>>31974844
>"Liberal" = social issues
Liberals by the very definition fight for LIBERTIES. Which means FREEDOM.
Anyone who actively works to take liberties away from citizens, by endorsing censorship, or banning ownership of certain objects, has nothing to do with liberty.

Look - you guys may have little experience in dealing with communists, but that's their most common tactic. Stealing certain words & phrases and changing their meaning. You can read about it in books from Engels and Marks written 150 years ago.

Orwell explained it well - War is Peace, Slavery is Freedom, etc.

>>31974792
>There aren't really people who think...
There are people who really think Trump is more dangerous than Hillary because he's made out of memes and bantz instead of corruption and pooped pants. Believing the black gun is more dangerous than the other one doesn't even seem unreasonable when compared to shit like that.

Plus, there's even somewhat of a basis for the justification that the black one is more dangerous because that's shown to be true for other things in life. In fact, the actually had a couple educational demonstration seminars related to the concept not too long ago in Ferguson and Baltimore :^)

>>31975234
I wish you'd fuck off, bringing race into a gun attitude discussion, you're fucking fixated.

I am kind of annoyed by it.

I want my arsenal to consist of fine not overly expensive but quality weapons that will stand the test of time and can be passed down through generations like swords of olde.

How does polymer stand up to just sitting there for a century or more? Does a chemical reaction make it brittle? How then to ever repair it?

At least with wood and metal you can craft replacement pieces.

>>31975271
I don't think anything is stopping you from replacing the polymer parts with wood, if they do break.

Polymers come in a huge variety of different attributes. Some appliances discolor and weaken within a decade, while some Lego bricks from the 70s are still as good as new.

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Real talk, /k/. Am I a fudd if I love wood furniture?

I love all firearm platforms, but wood furniture and bolt actions give me a fucking hard-on.

AK-47's are for terrorists and brown ninjas, everyone knows this.

>>31974792
AR-15 is a buzzword now in gun control "debates", just as "high capacity" and "assault rifle" are.

Most of the people who advocate for gun control don't know very much about guns, so they think the demonic AR-15s they hear about are somehow more deadly than other rifles.

>>31974792
You should have seen the late 80's through the 90's
Some fun examples:
>ALL handguns almost ended up as NFA items
>glocks were declared to be magic "ceramic and plastic" guns that were invisible to x-rays and metal detectors
>any bullet optimized to do any sort of extra damage suddenly became "teflon coated cop-killers"
>also rounds coated with teflon to ease barrel wear became banned because steel AP rounds also use teflon coatings, hetetofore, teflon immediatly = scary cop killer round
>folding stocks somehow made guns deadlier
>barrel shrouds were suddenly declared to modify the performance of a weapon somehow


It was a wierd time to be alive as a gun enthusiast. Im sure other anons have more recollections. I remember gun stores taking glocks to get x-rayed and displaying the x-rays in the front window so that people protesting sales of scary "invisible" glocks would fuck off.

>>31974792

Canadafag here.

Our laws were written by people who flipped through a gun catalog and classified firearms based on arbitrary criteria and how scary they looked.

I fucking WISH I was joking about that but it's true.

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>>31975314

Only if you look down on others for liking/owning synthetic furniture.

There's nothing wrong with having preferences, there's something wrong with trying to take other people's preferences away entirely or simply calling them trash for not liking what they like.

>>31974816
isn't that literally the opposite of how it works?

>>31974901
>Liberals by the very definition fight for LIBERTIES
Depends on which definition, and which time period. You're thinking of what we now call "classical liberals."

>>31976609
Yes.

>>31976556
Everybody else can use whatever they want. I'll still meme, >glock >2016, but I'm not going to tell you your choice is shit unless they gun is actually shit, not just the furnishings.

I just have me a raging boner for fudd guns.

>>31976724

Criticizing people's choice of guns is fine if you have valid reasons for doing so.

Fudds criticize people who choose non-fudd family guns.

>>31974792
>be asian
>post pictures taken of gun store racks to send to relatives in noguns land
>"anon those assault gun look scary and angry"
>"they no look defense weapon"
>"they look killin"
I can understand their attitude because guns aren't legal to own in their country, information on firearms aren't easily accessible or relevant, most of the population get their firearms knowledge from video games and you get a visit for looking up how to get one.

Here in the US however there is no fucking excuse, this is literally unironically shamefur dispray, stop dishonnoring your country.

>>31976814
When a fudd heard that I hunt with a ptr 91 he no shit farted out the whole
> "but yer goanna blow dat durr in half wit dat thing" with zero irony.

It literally fried my mind for a second as I tried to think of a response. There are actually people out there that somehow think a pistol grip and some rails through some magical process imparts a malicious and vandalistic level of destruction on a bullet that would otherwise be lacking in a wooden furnished gun with a traditional layout.

I tried explaining that it was in fact less powerful than the 300 mag he hunted with but he pulled that irritating as fuck thing where they interrupt you every 3 seconds like a broken record with thier fuddlore levels.

I got nothing against fuddguns, but it genuinely confuses me how some guy can own guns his entire life, for 30 or 40 years, and somehow not learn even the most basic common sense facts about ballistics and weapons mechanical functionality.

>>31977547

I've always wanted to tell myself that it's just senility. I hope that's really the case.

But I do know that in some cases they just make up stupid shit like that not because they deeply believe it, but they just want to discredit people and their "military salt rifles." They feel left out when the classy bolt actions and rustic muzzleloaders they grew up with are no longer popular, and they're willing to splurt out something retarded to vent.

>>31974792
My darling wife has claimed my 20 inch barrel Colt 6920 and my Springfield 1911 .45 full frame as her own.

She was a total libertarian 8 years ago when we first met, and she still is, almost a militant one regarding politics and policies.

However she has nowadays a concealed carry permit for that .45. That AR is her range hobby, and she carries it when we luxuriously have a change to go innawoods for camping and hunting.

I carry a wooden stock WW2 milsurp and a plain looking 10mm Glock pistol.

I am the one who fills up our refrigerator with game. She likes picking up wild mushrooms and a ton of seasonal berries. She has won at least once an argument with a black bear over an ownership of a berry bush. But she is still a total libertarian. It just doesn't go away.

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>>31978015
>She has won at least once an argument with a black bear over an ownership of a berry bush.

>>31974901
Modern liberalism and classical liberalism are two entirely different things

>>31978038
Yes, true story. I was about 30 yards away when heard the sudden .45 shots and ran there like hell. I didn't saw the bear but I heard it running away further through the shrubs.

My darling wife was pretty cool with it. When I arrived there with my pistol out, she dropped the mag with three rounds left, and started reloading the mag. She had two extra mags on her with easy access, which she realized a bit afterwards.

All she wanted was to scare the bear away, which she effectively did with the noise and surprise. It was not a "Clever Girl" -moment, the bear was about 15 yards away and wasn't maybe even aware of my darling wife at the moment of "engagement".

>>31975314
god that gun looks scary, 5spooky18me. The government should ban that gun

>>31974901
Sorry, you're wrong. The term liberal is used for people who want to use a liberal approach to the things outlined in the constitution. Conservative stand for a conservative approach

>>31978015
Why would being a libertarian have a negative effect on gun ownership?

>>31978499
It doesn't.

Realism and Reality are two completely different things, and it is essentially crucial for human life to prevail to get these two things at first separated and then treated as they are.

It's ok to resort to your intellectual takes on things even the most of times. However, it is also so that you need to get your hands dirty with humanity sometimes. You should not be afraid of those moments when such a thing happens right before your eyes, or, it happens to you.

>>31975314
That is nice.

>>31978499
Because they're attracting all the fucked up crazy people now that the SJW's have gone off the rails.

>>31978015
>I am the one who fills up our refrigerator with game. She likes picking up wild mushrooms and a ton of seasonal berries.

So basically, /k/ and /an/'s marriage.

>>31974901
>Marks
Don't you have Mrs. Englebrook's homework to do anon?

>>31978676
For 8 years.

It's her turn to decide what we will do at December 12th.

>>31974792
It's the dark color, it scares weak people.

Showed my m16a2 clone to a Noguns and he backed out of the door in fear; even with a chamber plug in it.
Eventually got him to hold it
He said:
>"this makes me feel like a badass"

>>31975314
Only if I'm a bubba for wishing I could get my hands on two M45s and have someone make em full retard and somehow put springs in the magwells to push the mags out faster, just cause it's fucking cool.

The people who think like this are the same people who are crying, throwing tantrums, burning flags, and rioting right now.

If you are still taking their opinions and views seriously, you should realize you're literally taking views from children.

>>31978936
Still laughing at their tears.

>this is a democratic societey! You have to accept the results no matter if your guy wins or not!
>what... my canidate didt win?? DONT ACCEPT THESE RESULTS!!!!!!


they are so utterly lacking in self awareness its fuckin hilarious. Besides which, they got a pretty big problem if they dont want me to have stuff like that since I already do, and they dont.

What, are they going to wave picket signs at me and call me a bigot until I give them up?

>>31978898
>it scares weak people.
only in america, though, it seems

this whole "Assault Weapon" nonsense is a distinctly american phenomenon, "muh scary 'salt rifles" is not part of gun law discourse anywhere else

>>31979099
>What, are they going to wave picket signs at me and call me a bigot until I give them up?
Their goal was to vote your rights away and then mob you the old fashioned way when the guns were gone. Looking at the map of Senate seats up for reelection in 2018, if Trump does well for the first two years we may be able to pass a Constitutional amendment in 2018 banning states from restricting firearms at ALL outside of hunting laws.

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>>31979099
I think it's dangerous not to take your enemies seriously, anons.

https://www.hotgas.net/2016/11...
http://calwatchdog.com/2016/11...
http://www.latimes.com/local/l...

Nothing has changed since last week. You are still hated and your enemies (and they *are* your enemies -- this is not some honest misunderstanding) still exhibit the same Will To Power as they did last week. We won a crucial battle. Losing it would have meant our defeat and dissolution; it was a sort of electoral Valley Forge. The Cold Civil War goes on with a vengeance. The stakes are the same.

Stay active, stay alert, stay involved, and -- by the almighty /K/ube -- stay armed.

>>31979240
https://www.hotgas.net/2016/11/oregon-proposal-secede-us-withdrawn-bigly-negative-backlash/
http://calwatchdog.com/2016/11/09/ca-secessionists-set-sacramento-rally/
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-garcetti-immigrants-20161111-story.html

Bleah. Hell if I know what happened to the links. These oughtta work.

If New York State wants to get free of NYC, or Jefferson wants to amputate Califailia, it's just a bunch of stupid rednecks spouting bullshit. When blue-state fascisti do it, it's a principled stand. They will never accept Not Getting Their Own Way.

>>31974901
>marks
Marx beleived in an armed populace you fucking idiot. You have no idea what you are talking about.

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>>31979240
>choke on your own putrid vomit
Joke's on you, libfag! I pray to Nurgle!

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>>31975270
Agreed. The cancer is in culture. Any human can be raised to be anything, we just need to necessitate the acceptance of our cultural identity.

>>31979240

Why are people who watch GoT all such faggots?

Aside from suppression tactics, is full auto a meme?

>>31979240
holy shit, these people unironically need to die.

>>31979574
unless you've got the entire thing on a mount, yes. you have basically no accuracy and shot placement is more important than rate of fire when you're dealing with small arms.

a .50 hole will pretty easily kill someone unless you hit one of their toes or something, but a .223 hole needs better shot placement to have a good chance of killing someone (really the only requirement is hitting a good spot on their extremities or hitting their torso/head at all, but whatever).

>>31979574
>Aside from military suppression tactics

Fixed it for you.

You don't want to get in a situation where you, as an single individual without any buddies around, need to switch full auto.

Rapid fire submachine guns and full auto pistols can be considered as light weight handheld projected claymore mines.

But that's now the last resort where tactics don't matter anymore. You are going for suicidal situation, you are cornered, you are counting everything on this last straw. Alone.

Good luck, you beautiful motherfucker.

>>31977531
>Americans acting like communists from communist countries
never saw it that way
It's pretty sad.

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>>31979896

Americans are in fact flexible to the point of insanity yet never giving up anything which is American.

That's why our opponents are literally scared shitless.

>>31976556
Is there a reason for the stock having "stop" carved into it? I don't recall anything about it in the story.

>>31975314
Being a Fudd is a philosophy, not what you own. Do you want pepper to only own durr guns at most?

>>31980025
To stop french Canadians from crossing into usa

>>31980067
Thanks m8

>>31978015
Jealous of you. Only land whales, and shitlibs where I live. One girl I knew could have been good, but she was engaged

>>31979453
The writer is an anti-war hippy cuck that voted for what could possibly be the biggest warmonger in recent history

>>31979255
If it werent for the obscenely far reaching and disasterous consequences of allowing the failed socialist republic of cali to leave I would almost welcome it.

Unfortunatley its the beginnings of the new civil war, I am hoping that this bullshit quiets back down to normal levels of idiocy but it seems like the tension level got dialed up to 11 by the election and trump's victory broke the knob off.

We won a battle, but yeah, something tells me it only served to galvanize the polarization of the country, and would have done so either way the election went.

I think trump stalled it for a while, but its a comin. Im going to use the 4 year window it opened up to stock up and dig in.

If yall thought this election got crazy wait until you see the next one. At this point in time I'm placing my estimate on the USA's lifespan in its current form at about 10 to 15 years.

>>31979133
Maybe not legally, but Eurotrash are utterly terrified of any gun that looks even remotely modern. The last time I made the mistake of talking to someone from Germany about guns they went on an autistic tirade about how the way Americans talk about guns terrifies them, and ranted about how all guns should be melted down.

>>31980166
Thanks, I guess, but quite honestly all what I did back then was to finally get uplifted (I shrugged off the bad shit I had on my shoulders from the service), said yes to a call from an old friend who invited me to hang around to a lake for a big party. I guess the rest is just dumb luck.

>>31978443
>Conservative
>Morality legislation
Every party is a fucking liar

>>31980240
We're in our fourth night of riots over an election.

Think about that for a moment.

Yeah, something has got to break.

>>31980247
Please visit Finns, Poles and Czechs. Others may join pretty soon here.

>>31980240
>Be in California
>Be a non-white
>Be only gun owner in family (not that they would know)
>Mother and aunt say they are scared of Trump turning a blind eye towards racist groups' crimes
>"The police won't be our friends"
>Mention that they could take charge of their own safety and arm themselves
>"Why would we want to do that? That will only escalate tensions"
>"WTF why do you suddenly support Trump?"
>Then proceed to start circlejerking about how they would support a second Civil War to depose Trump or make California a new state
>Ask "how do you intend to fight the government without guns?"
>"Protest like they're doing in Portland"
>"Other people will".

This is why a California secession would fail: because the people who want it are delusional or simply lazy. Not to mention it's utter insanity to believe that the US would suddenly give up control of its entire Pacific coastline.

>>31980411
Its fucking terrifying.

Thank god I live in montana and should be getting my manufacturer's license soon.

Gonna get a title 2 SOT tacked on and try to aquire some NFA items.

Right now I want to get a lage upper and a fun mode MAC 11 to drop into it, and hopefully manufacture some cool suppressed SBRs and whatnot.

Maybe even get my hands on some dealer samples and just pay the $500 fee every year to hold onto them but thats a bit more complicated and a bit further down the pipes.

Also storing atleast a years worth of food and am going to create buried bugout resupply cache's, hopefully layed out in such a way that no matter where I am in this valley for 20 miles in either direction I am within atleast 5 miles of a resupply cache.

I aint choosing sides in this bullshit unless somebody hurts my loved ones, I aim to survive and ride it out, but am under no illusions that its going to get really, really bad if I ever end up having to use any of it.

>>31974844
communism is about economics its a politic party. You're getting communism and socialism mixed up. Easy to do. Dumb ass americans do it all the time. Socialism is a style of economics, but liberalism is based on social issues using politics to move social ideas forward. So half right. Socialism is at the opposite end of the economic spectrum of capitolism. Most countries fall somewhere in that spectrum. Canada/Europe lean socialist, while america leans capitolist but neither is completely practices one or the other. However, in american politics liberalism is associated with gun control. But as a root word liberalism means change, not necessarily liberty. While conservatism is focusing on not changing protecting what we have. Communists are all about controling the flow of money and brining into government to be distributed as the government sees fit. This is done in an effort to keep some from becoming too rich and others from becoming too poor. Weird that the two most communist countries in the workd (russia/china) have some of the greatest disparity in wealth ever, worse I dare say than the US. Socialism not to be confused with communism as it is practiced in europe/Canada generally has high taxes and puts that money into social programs (healthcare/education...). However it seems like the conservative media in the US has tried hard to demonize the word socialist and has use pavlovian techniques to associate with everything from orwellian control to apple phones being locked down example "Apple are a bunch of socialist peices of shit b/c they force this fucking update down my throat."-family member literally said this. It was fucking hilarious. Only b/c Apple is like the most capitalist company ever. People in the US listen to way to much Rush limbaw (sorry if I'm spelling his name wrong.

>>31977531

What country?

Same here, I posted my carry while road tripping on cancerbook and all the Azn from where i was born freaked the fuck out.

Mind you it's a 7-shot S&W in .357 Magnum.

Got the usual "looks dangerous", "you might kill someone" and "you shouldn't be allowed such dangerous things". Sad, really sad.

>>31980411
You got what you wanted and still the realm of the law is a subject instead of object.

It doesn't end, does it.

>>31980911
China

There are people born and raised in America, sprouting freedom motherfucker memes on social media, being this afraid and ignorant of firearms and the right to bear arms, just like people who lived their whole life without a taste of the "murica freedom"

Really fires up those neurons.

>>31981519

That it does. That's why we have to consider ourselves as ambassadors to those who wish to learn.

>>31975314
Holy shit that's sexy

>>31976609
Yeah, because chambers intended for 5.56 tend to be larger in certain dimensions to a .223 a .223 round fired from a AR-15 with a 5.56 chamber will normally have less chamber pressure than the same round fired from something specifically intended for a .223.

Even with an AR chambered for .223 it makes no difference, the chamber pressure would be the same as the remington 700.

>>31979240
Phil, i live in san franfuckcisco. I know you live in some other county, but the only armed liberals here are basketball skilled individuals or Soreno/Norteno. All I'm seeing are hair dyed nose ring retards all crying or going crazy on the streets.
LA or anywhere in south cali? LOL, that might actually be a problem.

>>31979363
Is that a Hollow?

>>31980537
>be califag
>prop 63 passes
>Trump is now our new president
>hear califags on bus discussing how they will fight government

Fuck these people. I am saving up to move out of here. These idiots can make enemies of their police and keep voting in antigun legislation.
I will not help or talk them into being progun because they are in a corner right now, and the moment they feel safe, they'll turn around and be antigun again.
Look at Fienstien, she got a CCW when that small group of radicals was out for her, afterwards she dropped it and went against it all.

>>31975930
I remember that. Which hollywood creation have we to thank for the invisible ceramic Glock? Was it Die Hard? Couldn't believe they took that shit seriously. Do libtards even have any critical thought process remaining?

>>31984179
This, milspec (5.56) headspace has wider tolerances because military brass is expected to expand

>>31980537
desu if califags were actually going to brush the In-N-Out fries off their 3rd chin and get off the couch for the first time this century and try to "fight the government", id be more than happy to have an excuse to pop some rounds at them in the name of murica

if they wanted to start a civil war, even if the military sat it out, the fuck would they do? use their gimped to shit AR's? with what ammo?

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>>31979363
Change is coming, get with the times and the right god

>>31984311
Yeah it was diehard. They invented a fictional weapon called the glock-7
"It doesnt show up on airport x-rays and it costs more than you make in a month!"

Yes, thats right, there was a media panic to ban a weapon that doesnt exist, then over a few months it just kinda generalized into all glocks are invisible to any form of detection.

>>31979240
Keep praying hippie,

you're too much of a pussy to do anything yourself

>>31980025
IIRC He worked as a border patrol and carved stop in English and stop in French on each side of his rifle

Then the bombs dropped and everything got depressing

So how long do you think it will take for either a police force or a local militia group to start shooting?

>>31984230
That's postmodern AIDS-ridden SF for you. The fact remains that we are in our fifth day of riots because the losers don't like the result of the election -- a unique and horrifying occurrence in American history. That a demonstrator in front of Trump Tower last night held up a hand-lettered sign that said RAPE MELANIA and apparently none of the other demonstrators objected. That the blue-state mandarins in LA and SF (reminiscent of Democrats in the 1860's) are insisting on their own form of local rule and openly daring our President-elect to do something about their sanctuary city status.

Our enemies (and they *are* our enemies; this is not some sort of honest misunderstanding) are not throwing a brief temper tantrum and then calming down. They are whipping themselves into a fervor reminiscent of the smash-everything-old-and-evil ideologically-self-medicated mobs in Robespierre's France or Mao's Red Guard. They still hate us, still outnumber us, and are girding their frigging loins for continued battle. They do not think we are mistaken and must be defeated at the ballot box. They think we are evil and must be utterly destroyed.

I know my history. And they scare me.

>>31987412

Aim true and shoot to kill.

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>>31987412
The problem for them is that the majority of police and military are on our side.

The anti-gun mobs would have to arm themselves first, which would make them somewhat less anti-gun than originally stated.

I mean it wouldnt be anywhere near the first time an aggressive group adopted a "stomp out violence" approach and declared that they just need all these terrifying weapons for just a little bit, ya know, to fight for peace and all that.

Idk, I see them causing all manner of clusterfucks but I really dont see pic related being capable of convincing military or law enforcement to side with them and suppress our rights.

I think in another 10 to 15 years they will gain more traction and begin slowly legislating our liberties away, but lets be honest, what is a mob of pic related REALLY gonna do against even 1 guy with an assault rifle telling them to get the fuck off his lawn?

(The real answer is get shot, sending the law abiding home defender to prison and sparking more anti-freedom legislation.)

Unless a HUGE ideology shift occurs these are still a bunch of babies crying over spilt milk at this point.

Its not QUITE a revolution yet, but ya can see it from here. I think we got a few years before the REALLY crazy shit starts popping off.

>>31978443
No. Educate yourself, 'murrican.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

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>>31986280
Specifically, Die Harder
>That punk pulled a Glock 7 on me. Know what that is? It's a ceramic handgun made in Germany, doesn't show up on your metal detectors and it costs more than you make in a month

It's amazing how many things can be wrong in just one sentence

>>31992822
Wait, shit, he actually said it was porcelain, not ceramic

>>31979292
>Marx beleived in an armed populace

Until they seize power.

>>31979292
>boohoo my socialist wrote that people should have guns!!!

Until power was seized you absolute lefty retard