KTG #54

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>>31967902
Ja, but they are pretty good for gutting animals and general putting meat on the table.
>all knives under $15
>all carbon steel

Opinel just screams "cuck".

>>31968038
t. cuck

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>>31967879
>opinel
Just buy a puukko.

>>31967927

Opinel is thirty Canadian dollars. Sucks man.

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Posting some patrician knives before the creeps and the queers start shitting the thread up as always.

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Rate mine. Looking to get a knife about 5 inches that is good for pretty much every task I can think of needing a knife for when I'm camping or hiking. Looking to get an esee 5 or bk16 or a tops fieldcraft but I want a good 5 or 6 inch blade, some kind of carbon steel, full tang, and a good sheath (i perfer leather sheaths and wood scales)

>>31968458

Pleb/10

You seem to like more traditional, to-the-point designs, yet you fall for the youtube memes instead of buying hand made knives that'd cost you around as much.

>>31968475
These knives are always posted on /k/ and /out/ and are popular designs. The ontario 499 has been faithful for years for me. I just want something different I guess. Willing to put around $150 in

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>he isn't innastand playing with a mora at this very second

Should I get a Fjallkniven F1 or Enzo Trapper at some point or just keep this as my hunting knife?

>>31968492

Yes they're popular but pebeian.

You could have done much better with the same money, but you went for the common denominator knives.

All knives more or less perform similarly, but some go the extra mile to have nice thins. You didnt.

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>>31968529

If you always circlejerk arund the same brands and knives you'll create a bubble and never know the extra nice ones that are almost never talked about

>>31968586
Can you just shut up and give me constructive criticism instead of saying they're pleb tier?

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>First 50 KTG
>Most posting folders
>Now almost entirely fixed blades

>>31967927
top left?

>>31968153
There like 20$ in miltary surplus in quebec.

>>31967927
More info on the gooks knives.

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I just ordered a spyderco resilience
It's going to be my first spyderco and I couldn't be more psyched

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>benchmade Triage
>FD/Rescue fag

Fuckers carried me across three continents, 9 nations, and 42 states
>Be on a call today
>Taking off gear
>Knife falls out
>After two years, clip finally breaks

J U S T
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literally my only complaint with them is these clips are made of pot metal. Everything else=superb. But I've posted that before.

>>31968686

Let me drive on down to Quebec.

>>31968725

I intended to buy a persistence for my first knife, accidentally ordered an ambitious, and then a tenacious. Have yet to see a persistence. I think the tenacious is already pretty big, can't imagine how big a resilience is.

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I've been thinking about getting a handmade knife, are CFK and impact knives any good?

>>31969037

What is this, a knife/boomerang combo?

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Custom hunting knife a buddy made for me.

Thoughts?

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>>31969051
Sami knife (sami are the like natives or something in Sweden, Norway and Finland), handle and sheath made out of reindeer horn

>>31969070
Pretty nice, but also rather dull

>>31967879
I grew up in the city these knives originate from. They were so common during my childhood that non folding knives still to this day seem weird to me in some sense.
btw they're starting production in the US so expect to see new models to better suit american customers soon.

>>31969117
Yeah, i know, it's quite plain, but it fits my hand really well. The steel is excellent and the convex edge performs really nice.

Only drawback is the back is rounded over, so no firesteel for you.

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>>31969201
just run the back of the knife through a grind one quick time, problem solved

>>31968603

It's up to you to make something out of the imput, you pleb.

I've already told you your "collection" is ok by mainstream (mainstream publicity) standards.

Nothing special and more so (not special) for anyone that's into knives.

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One new one

>>31968815
Won't benchmade send you free replacement clips?

>>31967879
Love Opies so much. Have a no. 8 my grandpa gave me a couple months before he passed and a no. 6 I got a year or so ago. Great blades mang

>>31967927
Nice collection anon

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My new sodbuster

>>31969607
Nice Mac, does it come in non-fag?

>>31969607
The fourth top from right side? What is that? Looks very much alike one i found

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>>31970065
It does but I didn't like it.

It's my girlfriends.

>>31970083
I meant left side* the black fixed one

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>>31970127
The plastic handled one ? It's an old mora that I bought years ago.

>>31968483

What is that?

>>31970164
what about the fifth from the bottom right? that one is pretty neat

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>>31970197
The douk douk ?

>>31970223
yeah, how big is it when folded?

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>>31970253
This big

>>31970089
Is she cute?

>>31969021
House of knives sells them for like 17 bucks with tax in bc. Get fucked.

I got a Lapin Puuko from the linder store. Works great, carbon fiber blade stays sharp for a hot minute. Don't mind the pitting, its not a showpiece (though it does grab attention).

Comes with the belt loop sheath, fits good in my uniform.

>>31968686
and 8 in France

>>31970290
very neat in my opinion, what do you think of it?

>>31970371
I like it. Very stiff backspring, hallow ground, high carbon steel, it gets very sharp very easily. Really thin, dissappears in your pocket, comfortable to use. Overall a really cool design. They make a smaller one too, and a version with more of a drop point instead of the Turkish clip.

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>>31970398
would make a nice little pocketknife, the one i have is kinda ... shit

>>31970430
I would recommend it if you're looking for a cheap slipjoint that's very serviceable.

>>31970371
I literally found one on a sidewalk a few years back, visibly already quite old. It's a very good knife, but it's really not adapted to jobs where you need to have a firm grip on it.

>>31970297

>$13 shipping

>>31970299

Carbon fiber blade? Is this a new meme?

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Can someone remind me what's wrong with serrations?
I want to buy pic related

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Chris Reeve sebenza, fashionably late(and the best knife itt).

>>31967879

Generals are cancerous trash and you should all be ashamed of yourselves.

>>31970953
There is nothing wrong with your picture knife because it is all serrations. Its not trying to do double duty.
The issue most people have with them is when they take up half of the blade with them and act like it adds to it when really it takes away. You lose the straight good cutting edge, and you dont have enough serrations to be useful.

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Want to get a knife but not sure what one.
It will be my first, will be used for self defense mainly, but I would like to possibly take it out to the forest nearby and slash some things, like dead branches or twigs.
Would also like to keep it cheap. $40 is my max, and it will be my first knife. Would also love to have an assisted or an automatic.
Recommendations?

>>31970223
Nice knifes man. We have similar tastes.

>>31971090

>but I would like to possibly take it out to the forest nearby and slash some things, like dead branches or twigs

Do you know how much autism is injected into this sentence?

>>31971021
>best knife
Citation needed

>>31969070
You must have some flash buddies

In a world full of plastic packaging and cardboard boxes - a knife is crucial tool.

>>31967902
>worthless for self defense
Negative. I'd rather be partially armed than not at all

>>31971090
Buy a Rat 1 or a cold steel voyager.

>>31968475
Are you suggesting there is a robust market for handmade knives at a decent price point? (I.e. non-Sebenza prices) How do I find those handmade knives? Signed, a likely future knife maker in Florida, USA.

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Are these beckers halfway decent? Thinking of getting the drop point one as a general multipurpose camp knife

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>>31968475
Are you suggesting there is a robust market for handmade knives at a decent price point? (I.e. non-Sebenza prices) How do I find those handmade knives? Signed, a likely future knife maker in Florida, USA. Image: handmade but not by me

>>31970181
an attempt to make a knife look dangerous by adding real self defense weapon ammunition to the picture

>>31971625
You have heard of "staging" in real estate? You dress things up and make a little diorama or scene. Beats a knife photoed on someone's knee...

>>31968452
>sawback
>patrician
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>>31968465
>56-57 HRC 154 CM
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>>31968483
>>31968580
>blasted finish on a hunting/field knife design
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>>31968597
>rock patterns
>serrations
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>>31971021
>framelock
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>>31971639
PS I love s--- like that that... obv.

>>31968647
>>31968701
Top left is a folding Kiridashi, iron and paper steel, one sided bevel, sharp as fuck.
The one below is a Higonokami, sandwich construction with paper steel, also sharp as fuck, but the handle sucks.

>>31971094
Thanks

>>31967879
someone please, i am a /k/omando from way back, but i haven't been on for years, like 4 years now. Someone please tell me with this knife has a notch thing in the blade that i have only ever seen in a pocket knife or lock blade type knife. This swiss army knife notch, i always assumed was for flipping it out from its folded position. This kkife doesnt fold why does it have anotch thing, i have to know.

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>>31971390

Go check the knifemaker's market on BladeForums to see just how much of a market there is for reasonably priced handmade knives.

I personally own three knives from Joe Calton of Calton Cutlery, one from Robert Erickson and one from Daniel Rohde.

Pic related is a Calton necker in 1095 at ~62 HRC that is ~0.07" at the spine and ~0.08" behind the edge.

>>31967927
Where can you get the Solsona?

>>31969630

Yes, but I also need to send it back for sharpening and all that.

I really need the knife since I'm drowning in work next three weeks too, but it'll ride loose in my back pocket for a bit.

>>31971765
Thanks

>>31971747

It folds.

>>31971703
Where buy? not on amazon

>>31971747
It's called a nail nick. It's literally for opening the knife with your nail

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>>31968038
Agreed.

They look like they could break at any moment and not perform any duty heavier than opening an envelope. Maybe you could skin and gut a deer with it, but if you want a scalpel like blade you're far better off getting pic related.

>>31971547

Excellent knives except the handles are very smooth and slick when wet. You'll want to put something like hockey tape or grip tape on.

Bit of a deal breaker for me but otherwise a solid knife.

>>31972827
just spray on grip / skateboard grip

>>31972792

Wow guys, you hear that? If you want a scalpel like blade you gotta buy a scalpel like blade.

Should i get an HI kukri or save a bit more for a sebenza

>>31973530
Wait, does sebenza have anything like a kukri?

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>>31973530
I'm curious why they're even in the same though process anon?
Also Kukris are a lot of fun.

Seeing as it seems to be a fixed blade thread, in spite of OPs picture here are my two hunters.

>>31973534
The Sebenza is a particular knife design from CRK

>>31971765
is that you steel drake?

okay /k/, ive got some oak burl that i wanna make into a handle with a blank. what kind of blank should i get?

>French edition
Recommend me some Spydercos designed by french people.

>>31971090
$40 max won't get you anything worth jack for self defense or for hacking trees that won't either warp, chip, dull, or some combination. Knives are also pretty shit for self defense. Get a decent CC handgun and then a Spyderco Manix 2 or Paramilitary 2. Use the gun for self defense and the knife for literaly everything else.

>>31968458

Hudson bay knife...my nigger.

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buying a decent knife in international waters is suffering

>>31974230

Where are you located?

>>31973988
Check out Jantz supply

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>>31974165
Spyderco PPT.

Great design. Only reason why I sold mine was that I hated the clip.

>>31974230
Why not order it direct from a US supplier?

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>>31967879
I won a Schrade SCHF36 in a raffle (pic related). It's supposed to be delivered in a few days.

Is it worth keeping or should I sell it off? I hunt and I go camping occasionally but don't really do the whole wilderness survival thing, so it'd just be general use if I kept it.

>>31974357

It's actually a pretty decent knife.

>>31973593
mora with custom sheath?

>>31974405
I could be wrong but I think he made it himself, there was someone talking about doing/having done that a while back

>>31974405

Yeah, I just finished it before I posted.

>>31974432
How's the retention anon? did you wet it?

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>>31973970

Yup.

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>French edition

Here's my Douk Douk. It does quite good at slicing saucisson.
I like its simplicity, it's like the Sten of the knife world. Rooted into our colonial history too.

I did a terrible job at maintaining it so it doesn't loog that good anymore though.

>>31971547

Heavens no! The bk2 is a semi-sharpened brick. If you want a camp knife, get something 2-3mm thick, at the very least, get a mora (companion is good, bushcraft/2000/kansbol if you don't mind spending 30 bucks instead of 13, to get a better knife).
Otherwise - helle, ahti, esee (esp. camp lore series and esee3hm), bhk, lt wright, and others - depends on how much you want to spend.

>>31975281
Will any of those handle a wild boar or a crocodile?

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Just got a Paramilitary 2, love this thing already.

>>31971655
And?

>>31975474
Trying to fight a croc or a boar with a knife is only hollywood shit. I hate to burst your bubble but you aren't Crocodile Dundee. Sure it could probably hold up well on a boar or if you knew where to stab, a croc too, but you're more likely to lose a limb.

>>31976354
I dunno. I've knifed a few pigs in my time

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>>31971655
>31971655

Shit taste and no clue

What I meant with "before the creeps and queers start shitting the tread up as always"

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I found this kind of knife at a boyscout camp about 10 years ago. it's cheap but hell it's always got the job done regardless of how dinged up it is.

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KA-BAR BK3, yes? no?

>>31975016

It's decent. I can hold the handle and throw it off. Might throw one or two more stitches at the top. Yeah, I wet molded it. Only took a few hours for the whole sheath.

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Trying to make a knife, I know it's shitty, but I am working on it.

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>>31977144
Check'd and kek'd

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>>31977202
It's not finished, it's going to look moderately ok.

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>>31977275
Yeah, let me know when that happens.

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I am looking at getting an Automatic bedlam knife, are they pretty decent?

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>>31977410
you'll just laugh at me

>>31977144
aha what the fuck is that
at least you got dubs

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>>31977144

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>>31977144

Thanks for daily kek anon.

At least you have mora blade.

I am in need of a fixed blade knife. I used to have an Argonaut 820 but it's a bit too long. I needed something that's good for general use, no woodcrafting, and functional as a combat knife.

I am between the Cold Steel SRK and Recon Tanto but I hate tanto blades, a Gerber Strongarm and a Gerber Prodigy

Does anyone know anything about the HK Citation? I saw it on sale on Big 5's website but no other sources.

>>31977736

Benchmade Nimravus or Protagonist for a real useful knife

HK is Benchmade

>>31977736
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN0kfBMt-5M

>>31978151
>mememade better than SRK
you're buying into the memes bub. but i agree gerber is trash

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>>31967879
>locking ring

>>31978163

Benchmade is solid.

The SRK is the meme knife.

I'd rather have a CSK from Benchmade or the superior Fällkniven S1 / A1

>>31978232
what about it is a meme you memeing faggot

>>31978379

It's an old design that was innovative in the 80s but is outdated as fuck nowadays.

And the carbon ones are no longer made, cunt.

>>31978479
you're a right faggot you twat

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>>31978516

You're a boring F*** CUNT

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>>31978851

>>31978379
>memeing faggot
>literally just spouted memes

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>>31976975
ayy

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>>31968815
>FD/Rescue fag
>Fuckers carried me across three continents, 9 nations, and 42 states
I would like to read some stories and more about that line of job, you should create one thread.

>>31979923
where can I find good deals on the top one?

>>31979921
This will seem like a weird question, but do you still have both of your hing screws? mines missing one and it really worries me.

>>31980141
You mean the sex bolt that acts as a hinge? Yeah, it's still in one piece.

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Chink clones made it, the Rajah 2 utilises the liner lock rather than the actual cold steel one, the BM42 is very solid.
>My gf chose the tablecloth, I know it looks gay as hell
The Rajah is sharp as a motherfucker, I can make ribbons from paper with it.
The 42 is a bit tight, but that's because it's new in box.

>>31980576
Iron that tablecloth you barbarian.

>>31968815
FF/Medic here as well

That knife is godly

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>>31971714
Hello sharps!

My Opinel Hermione finally came in today.

I'll share with you some pictures of the lovely knife. So far I have no complaints other than the fact that I think it could be sharper. I'm new to sharpening so I'll practice on a shittier folder freehand on my waterstone before touching this up. But other than that, I'm super pleased with everything and quite ecstatic.

Thoughts, anons?

1/6

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>>31980699
2/6

>>31980699
>Thoughts, anons?
Pictures of just the box are dumb.

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>>31980713
3/6

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>>31980723
Kek. I realized that was pretty stupid after posting it, but what can you do.

4/6

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>>31980739
5/6

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>>31980757
These last few images on the red towel show much closer to natural lighting.

On here you see the Firefly/ Serenity quote that was engraved in with a diamond drag.

6/6

>>31980767
I like it. Eager for mine

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>>31980857
Do the Opinels usually come not terribly sharp?

There's a very VERY tiny edge bevel on it, and while it feels somewhat sharp-ish, it certainly doesn't feel SHARP sharp like I'd want it.

Suggestions?

>>31970296
Anon, he owns a Mac, which means when he said "girlfriend" he actually meant "my life partner TYRONE THE BULL"

>>31980609
I told her it looked bad but she just got it out of storage.

Is the Gerber Mark II a good "combat knife"?

It seems to have a good history

>>31980952
They usually come almost sharp. Ten or so passes on a medium stone and a little stropping and they're usually good to go.

>>31981011
Not my mac, not queer.

>>31981149
I know anon I was just joking around. I'll do my best to contain my autistic hatred of all things Apple

>>31980088
Nowhere anymore, I got it a couple months ago on circle10ak.com for $25. matching serial numbers too.

Hey guys,

I'm looking for a folder for my EDC.
Only things i do want are a flipper opening, and it being cheap (so I can dispose of it if needed), yet functional.

Do you guys have any suggestion which brands to look at?

Thanks.

>>31981245

Kershaw and CRKT for cheap.

>>31967879
They're okay as a light use pocket knife. Maybe something to keep at your desk. They're really interesting and unique.

I used one for about a year as a daily.They take longer to open and shut if you bother to lock it. And it's REALLY hard to open or shut if you get it wet because the wood swells. It goes back to normal though when it drys out.

I now have a Svord from New Zealand. Very utilitarian, looks like a knife a fisherman would use.

>>31981245
Ozark trail. Laugh all you want, but it's like four bucks and it'll smile as you tear it to pieces

SO.
i've already got an Opinel, but i want another of those iconic cheapies..
do i want the k66k mercator black cat, the Higo No Kami, the svord peasant, or the douk douk? Or another one i dont know about, excluding the kudu

>>31970672

https://www.amazon.ca/Opinel-Knife-Carbon-Beechwood-Handle/dp/B004AMY6GS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479012509&sr=8-1&keywords=opinel+no+8

ships from US, free shipping

I dont even know why im doing this for you. You sound like a nigger. Very high time preference.

>>31968647
>>31971703
>>31972713
>>31968701
Mikihisa is real name

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Ls

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So I've got myself a King 250/1000 Grit Combination Waterstone. I'm new as fuck to sharpening and am trying to learn on my cheaper CRKT, but I'm really not sure. Honestly, I FEEL like this edge looks great and is in great shape, but it doesn't feel razor sharp. What am I missing?

Do I need to do something other than lots of accurate/ same-angle passes on the 1000 grit side?

Should I buy another tool for use after the 1000 grit passes? I really don't know...

>>31969070
Custom knives are they best, it doesn't really matter what the steel is as long as you know stainless/carbon difference, and that's a very nice knife.

>>31982376
Do you own a Mora yet?

>>31982827
i do not. But the last knife i got in september was an ESEE Izula II, so i was looking to save the mora buy for later down the road. that being said, i'll concider it if you throw a model name at me

>>31982376
>kudu
You mean the Okapi. Kudu is the Cold Steel tacticool version.

I'd got the Black Cat or the Peasant. I have those and I like them better than the higo. I want a douk douk, but haven't gotten around to getting one yet.

>>31969607
why did you take the coating off of the pilots knife?

>>31983190
Didn't like the look or feel of it. No other reason.

>>31977144
Actually not a bad start if you actually secured the blade properly (it doesn't look like you did)

Do you have a drawknife? Rasp? Sandpaper? Clamps for days?

Woodworking sucks without the right tools.

>>31982711
Hard to tell from that picture, but it appears you're forming multiple secondary bevels. You can see the bevel angle delta starting near the base of the blade and terminating slightly past half-point. You aren't maintaining grind angle when you turn the knife across the stone. When you go to cut paper to test sharpness, the paper will feel this angle change and cause it to scrunch/fold instead of split.

For actual knife function it doesn't matter, but it would certainly "feel" less sharp even though the edge itself at any point would be fine. It's just the angle change. Work on consistency when grinding.

>>31982376
Higo no Kami is based, thick as fuck spine, decent steel, really small. Nice for slicing shit, probably wouldn't pry with it or other stuff I would similarly do to a beater knife.

Black cat is pretty good, IMO it's kind of a bastard of an opinel (blade wise) and a higo no kami (action wise)

Peasant knife is decent for innawoods, too big for EDC in my opinion. Also, if you do get one, for fucks sake get the wood handle.

>>31983164
ahh yes thank you with the Opaki.
so the Black Cat, i immagine so but i might as well find out, but does the handle feel the same as the Higo?
its clear to see that the black cat and douk douk are pretty similiar, so i immagine i wont find a huge difference between them, but the peasant is quite different.
do you notice the handle of the black cat being shitty or anything? i'd heard that the higo's was.

>>31983304
>wood handle
absolutely.
so in terms of steel, hows the Higo compare to the Black cat? and all of the others, for that matter.

>>31983291
Should I try doing more passes on the 1000 side, or try reprofiling again on the 250 first?

>>31983321
I'm one of the guys who said the Higo's handle is kinda shitty and I actually like the Black Cat's despite them both being metal handles.

The difference being the Black Cat's handle is a bit thicker and a lot better rounded, whereas with the Higo it's almost like they just folded it over.

>>31983345

If you're forming a bevel, lower grit is better. It removes material faster. However, you don't necessarily need to form a new bevel, just correct it. Either can work.

It all depends on what you need your knife to do. If you're just sharpening your knife to working condition, you did a good job, and it'll get better with practice. If you're trying to get your knife autistic sharp for no reason, then a regular whetstone isn't what you should be using, there are multiple sharpening systems which eliminate human error, like the Sharpmaster or

http://tsprof.com/?lang=eng

which will be more than you ever need.

I'd say be patient and the skills will come, and if you're willing to potentially murder the edge on expensive knives in the pursuit of super sharp, then you can afford a sharpening system more advanced than "drag knife across rock."

>>31983331
Well, the higo no kami is high-carbon steel, so pretty much nothing at all like the Opinel.

The black cat I have is also carbon steel, but it's noticeably softer than the higo no kami, I would almost go for stainless on this one even though it isn't "original"

I mostly use the peasant knife for innawoods shit so I have a very different edge on it. It's pretty decent steel, similar to higo no kami but I haven't compared them heavily.

I don't think any of them besides opinel and probably mercator use an actual listed steel type, and even the mercator is "mercator carbon" whatever the fuck that is.

If I had to rank them in terms of blade quality it would go
higo>peasant>opinel=mercator
Handles (comfort) it would be
peasant=opinel>mercator>higo
Handles (size)
peasant>opinel>mercator>higo

Two things to note, the giant fucking tang on the peasant knife is more inconvenient than you might think, and the higo's handle is perfectly fine as long as you hold it right (Saber no handshake you fucking plebs)

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>>31983413
I actually can't afford a whole lot, and while I know there are remove_human_error systems, I would like to learn to naturally and properly master freehand sharpening.

I guess right now I'm "good", but I want to shoot for "great".

I'm interested in that "autistic" edge if by autistic edge you mean hair cutting razor sharp. Though I'm having a hard time getting there. This blade certainly isn't cutting any hairs.

>>31983456
>This blade certainly isn't cutting any hairs.
Are you using waterstones, 1k to at least 6k?
Is it very high carbon steel?

If yes to both, then just git gud, if either is no, then spend more money, then git gud.

>>31983470
Forgot to mention, stropping is also a thing, you're going to want to do that. I use leather, but you can google and pick whatever you want.

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>>31983470
>>31983479
Yeah yeah sure, just tell me what I'm either
A: Doing wrong
or
B: Not doing
and I'll do what I can to get on that.

To answer your questions as best I can right now, this CRKT I am using is in 8cr13mov, and the waterstone is double sided with 250 and 1000 grits, so that's a no to any 6k.

So far I've just tried to reprofile with the 250 and sharpen the fuck out of it on the 1000, even though that doesn't seem to be doing a whole lot for me. I get a pretty edge, but it doesn't feel super sharp yet. Maybe it is sharp, just not, sharp sharp. I don't really know.

Suggestions, my friend?

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Does anyone have experience with havalon? Looking to get one for field dressing and edc.

>>31983500
>8cr13mov
So shitty chinese stainless
>sharpen the fuck out of it on the 1000
You literally can't

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>>31983550
>implying anything you said was remotely helpful or useful
Fuck off unless you actually have proper answers to my questions and issues.

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>>31983609
Your problem isn't that you're poor, it's that you're retarded. You could have saved up your money and gotten a 1000 grit waterstone, a 6000 grit waterstone, a knife with non shit steel, and a tiny piece of a leather for around 75 dollars and you would be getting razor sharp edges no problem, but you blew it on a shitty 250 1000 combo stone a chink folder.

I live on fucking 750 dollars a month and I have _decent_ things because I don't blow my money on stupid shit.

At the very least I have the "razor sharp edges" you seem to covet.

Pro-tip, being a cunt is not the way to get people to give you help.

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>>31983657
Pro-tip, you were the one being a cunt first, and here you are doing it again

Pro-tip, you're making assumptions instead of answering my questions properly.

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>>31983728
>you were the one being a cunt first
I'm not the one who needs help

You literally cannot sharpen a blade to the sharpness you want with the stone you have.

I can explain why and offer alternatives, but you're going to have to ask nicely.

>>31981066
Gerber did have good history but now even the Mark 2 has gone to shit. Don't buy new ones. And I guess so, it's a fixed double edge with a solid handle.

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>>31983728
Cmon anon, just say please.

You can do it if you try.

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>>31983356
hmm.. sounds like its down to the svord vs mercator

>>31983424
>>31983973
Svord use L6 tool steel which is super abusable.

>>31983994
in a "i wont be chipping anytime soon" way?

>>31984015
Well in terms of carbon it's similar to 1075 but then has nickel and silicon added so yeah it's as unlikely to chip as any steel.

>>31983994
>treated and tempered themselves

Do you even steel?
I agree with your point though, shits durable.

>>31984015
Depends on a load of factors, I have a super steep grind on mine so no, the edge won't chip, but carbon steel is inherently more brittle than softer steels.

>>31984039
>Do you even steel?
Funnily enough I work with it for a living and I've used L6 in it's original application.

>but carbon steel is inherently more brittle than softer steels.
Technically all steel is carbon steel as it's the carbon that turns iron into steel. Once the carbon content gets high enough it begins to increase brittleness but the flip side of this is carbon also increases tensile strength so the steel might have a higher chance to chip but this chipping will occur at a point far above where a lower carbon steel has already folded, things like chromium, silicon and manganese can also increase tensile strength.

>>31984104
>I've used L6 in it's original application.
So you operate a machine that uses bits of some type, doesn't make you steel meister
>Technically all steel is carbon steel as it's the carbon that turns iron into steel.

Was waiting for this, you know exactly what I meant.

>above where a lower carbon steel has already folded
We were talking about chipping

And if you do actually into steel you should know that even if they use L6 as stock, after its been worked and tempered it is no longer actually L6 at least in terms of functionality, the composition is presumably the same.

>>31969607
>>31970164
>>31970223
what is to the left of the mercator?

>>31984136
>Was waiting for this, you know exactly what I meant.
I did, so why did you write it if you were waiting for a correction?

>And if you do actually into steel you should know that even if they use L6 as stock, after its been worked and tempered it is no longer actually L6 at least in terms of functionality
Wut?


Also just had a look, been a while since I've looked at Svords website, seems as though their cheaper knives are made from 15n20 now which is disappointing.

>>31968529
Keep it. It does the same things as well as those others for hunting.

>>31984206
Condor kephart

>>31983500
it should already be sharp on the 250, before you progress to higher grits. If you skip ahead too early you can end up with a knife that's significantly less sharp than it could be.

Before you move on from the rough stone, I suggest you
Work up a burr on one side with the 250. Then the other side. Then four feather light passes at 45 degrees to the stone to remove the burr (check to make sure it's gone) then two or three passes at original angles on both sides.

Then I usually do a few edge trailing passes, I find it really helps.

When done correctly, this will leave you with a very usable edge on a rough stone. It's just basic burr based method, but it really helps when just starting out learning to sharpen.

Also it's worth noting that if you use a 1000 water stone with a good slurry it produces a very polished edge that may not feel as aggressive as you are used to. Try it on a piece of paper.

>>31982711

Watch this video and practice until you can consistently produce results that will easily slice newsprint and pushcut it with the grain off your coarsest stone:

https://youtu.be/cWU_qTp3DLM

>>31983470

It's possible to get an apex that will whittle beard hair of a ~320 grit Norton India fine oilstone.

Higher grits have the effect of replacing larger microscopic teeth with smaller microscopic teeth and thus change the balance between pushcutting sharpness and slicing sharpness (bigger teeth are better for slicing, smaller teeth better for pushcutting), but it's possible to get a coarse edge just as sharp (defined by average apex width) as a fine one.

>>31983550
>>31983657

No, he is correct. You have contributed absolutely nothing useful whatsoever.

You can get dollar store kitchen knives sharp enough to whittle beard hair, shave, or pushcut a tomato if you have the right skills.

The only issue 8cr13mov would present is that it is often both under-hardened in the heat treatment stage and overheated at the edge when being power sharpened at the factory.

Both issues would tend to make the steel more prone to forming a ragged, difficult to remove burr but those issues can be avoided by learning to shear off a butt with high angle passes.

For someone just learning to freehand, a 250/1000 combo is likely to be much more useful than a King 1k/6k, unless the person is planning to only sharpen kitchen knives (which will be at best lightly blunted when they get sharpened).

Also stropping on plain leather does not produce meaningfully useful results except on a straight razor as it does not work for burr removal and the silicates in the leather are too fine to be useful for anything except a 10,000+ grit edge.

>>31985427
this is a seriously important concept to grasp when learning to sharpen.

I rarely see pictures of knives that have been used posted here. It's your money, but I just don't get it. Why buy so many knives just to throw them in a drawer and never use them?

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>>31985503
Do you also feel a distinct lack of old used up models being posted on 4chan? Or tired looking cars?
Lots of people, myself included take plenty of photos when they make a new aquisition and tend to use them to post the knife, used knives don't tend to be as easy on the eye, unless maybe you've made some personal touches or slight modifications.

>live in philly
>all knives are illegal

well shit does this mean you can't collect them either or what. like if i were to order off of amazon can i get in trouble

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>>31985503

My EDC knives mostly get used for good prep, cardboard, clamshell packaging, and stuff like that.

Those kinds of cutting tasks don't really scratch up the blade too much, plus I've thinned out the primary grinds on a bunch of my knives so you wouldn't really notice any scratches anyway.

>>31985572

http://www.phila.gov/philacode/html/_data/title10/CHAPTER_10_800_SAFETY/10_820_Cutting_Weapons_in_Publ.html

You can own them, you just can't take them in public.

>>31968529
I wouldn't consider either of those as a hunting knife. Look into brands like bark river, benchmade, buck, knives of alaska if you want hunting knives

>>31968725
good choice anon, you won't be disappointed. However, you have embarked on a one way journey down the path of spyderco, and you wont be able to stop until you have their top tier knives

>>31985761
pleb question, but what makes spyderco so good?

>>31985750

thanks

>>31975498
awesome knife. remember they have quite a long break in period, so if you experience a sticky lock it will go away eventually

>>31985785

I bought some Hoppe's 9 lubricating gun oil and it fixed all of my knives.

>>31985772
They just make great quality, affordable knives that work. That's about it, but funnily enough I usually find that the quality and fit and finish of their knives is better at their taiwanese and japanese factories than their american one

>>31985917
Well their Taiwanese knives tend to be pretty exxy so with lower labour cost and higher prices they'd want to be finished well. Never had a problem with either a Jap or US one though.

>>31986064
Yeah that's true, I've handles a few but never bought one myself for that very reason. I've never had a problem with any jap ones but I still haven't owned a us one to this day, because i have had to send all 4 back because of problems (major sticky lock, blade touching liners it was so off-centre, major blade play) all of this on 2 pm2s, 1 manix 2 and one manix 2 xl

>>31985503
I just baby my knives. I don't use them for hard work because I don't have any hard work to use them for. I only ever need them for light tasks, and when I'm done with those I like to clean them up and take care of them. I'm sure if I had some harder tasks my knives would be a little more worn than they are

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I want to get a medieval style dagger that is very sharp, or at least is capable of being sharpened.

What do I need to look for to find something like? Google comes up with some options, but they all seem cheaper than i was expecting and they don't say whether they are actually usable or capable of being sharpened.

I'd prefer something with a scabbard.

>>31986735
Most of them are probably shit tier display pieces. You might get lucky, but it's doubtful.

Probably have to go custom made, or get a fairbairn sykes or arkansas toothpick re-deone with a custom hilt and crossguard

>>31986735
Darksword armory has exactly what you need.

Pre Sharpened, full tang, leather and wood handles, high carbon steel, and matching scabbards.

Prices are not bad either.

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>>31986832
Nice man thanks for that.

I just ordered the Gothic Dagger with scabbard. I'm gonna open carry it around town and grow a sweet ass mustache.

>>31987092
God damn they polish the Fuck out of those blades.

If yours looks like that when it comes, do yourself a favor and scuff it up so it doesn't look like cheap stainless steel.

Also make sure you keep it oiled. High carbon steel will rust right the Fuck up. Treat it better than your guns (if you have any).

>>31983500
2 recommendations.
1) get a 6000grit stone and make sure to work up a slurry on it before you start your passes. It'll put a mirror finish on the edge and fine out your sharpening.
2) always finish your sharpening with a strop and compound. Makes a stupid amount of difference.
The 1000stone is where I start, unless I've got a burr or serious edge damage to fix or I'm completely reprofiling cause reasons. The 6000 is your finish stone so you aren't really using the grit to get to razor sharp unless your technique is perfect. So get a finish stone and strop your knife (ideally you'd want to strop after use as well to reduce the amount you actually have to sharpen the knife). Good luck anon, I'm in the struggle with you, can't get that even secondary bevel either but I finish and strop and it's been the difference.

>>31987390

He needs to learn to consistently reach an apex on the coarsest stone he has, higher grit stones and/or stropping are not going to help.

Also, stropping is neither always necessary or even desirable depending on how coarse and apex finish you want.

>>31985458
>high angle passes
you should make more videos steel drake! they were pretty neat.

>>31987472

When I have time. Next videos will be about whether you can sharpen Maxamet at ~67-71 HRC on aluminum oxide waterstones, silicon carbide waterstones or only diamond plates.

Has to be done to generate some empirical data for or against the ogre repeated theory that using AlOx or SiC on high hardness high vanadium steels creates a malformed, weak edge prone to carbide tear out.

As you might imagine, proponents of the theory that you can't use aluminum oxide stones to sharpen steels with 4%+ vanadium don't react well to me telling them I use my King 1000 regularly on CPM-M4...

>>31985756
Second this. I have a bark river highlands special in a2. Best hunting/ outdoor knife I've used in a long fuckin time. Or a ontario 499 I modded to be a excellent slicer. That's more of a survival knife but can skin well also

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>>31985503
See
>>31968458
That's my benchmade griptillian. very well used

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is it worth of buying or just overhyped?

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Just in case anyone forces a patina on a douk with oj, take care not to let it reach the handle. Took off some of the black handle coating

Oops

I've yet to find a knife under $20 worth buying.

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>>31988084
that coating is shit, I did acid wash on my douk douks, and now handle is pretty nice and not so slippery

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>>31988268

>>31988257
Ganzo

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>>31988268
>>31988278

>>31985869
Mineral oil would be better especially if you use your knives for food prep

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>>31988268
>>31988278
>>31988291
Second one is Vendedouk Corsica

>>31988279

What's a good one? G7413-WS looks ok.

>>31988257

Moras are legitimately good knives.

any qt girls on yt who review knives? found one but she hasn't posted in like 4 years

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>>31987092
That thing is fukkin sweet. Could be a good HD piece even. Especially for somewhat cucked countries.

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>>31988745

I feel like regardless of what country you're in, if you skewer a home invader with a foot-long medieval dagger, you're gonna have some 'splainin' to do.

>>31987589
ahh yes, well, you'll get those theories knocked out soon enough im sure!

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/k/at general

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>>31988874

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>>31988874
One more kitty

>>31988268
I was thinking about doing that, just finishing it off

>>31988539
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCNn90bficsQbycHvrMBFdfw

recommend me an edc, i already have an collection and want to keep adding to it ( while getting rid of my less carried knives )

My collection is currently
zt052cf
pm2 s110v
manix2xl
dragonfly2
bm940
rat 2

and on my list of owned to sell is a bm 585 ( mini barrage)
555hg( sheepsfoot mini grip)
Bradford guardian 3 M390 ffg
and a rat 1

>>31989919
on my list of shit im considering is
spyderco southard
ouroboros
domino
Lil Matriarch

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>>31988539

>>31967927
Is the top left a kiridashi.

>>31971590
A bunch on bladeforums.

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>>31990729

>>31990729
nice, isn't that handle too short?

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>>31991294
Nah but it is WAY too light imo its like holding a fuckin feather makes me crave substance then my fingetips feel weird. it seems to be the fuckin perfect edc but i cant get used to the weight. Find myself carrying my mini barrage more even though it is of obvious lesser quality.

>>31988295

like baby oil from the store? they don't sell straight up mineral oil, I've checked.

>>31969605
>>31968603
Just think of him criticizing your car collection that's a Ferrari, Lamborghini, and Porsche 911 then bragging to car enthusiasts about it. Nothing bad per se but nothing noteworthy or rare like an old Bugatti. Sorry /o/ here

>>31992149
>they don't sell straight up mineral oil, I've checked.
Are you actually incapable of buying mineral oil?

Are you retarded?

>>31992630

No one sells mineral oil. Pharmacy doesn't, hardware store doesn't, grocery store doesn't.

>>31992893
>No one sells mineral oil.
Where are you right now anon?
What fucking century is it?
You don't have to drive to big scary city for mineral oil, fucking order some off the goddamn internet.

>>31992923

I live in a large Canadian city. No one sells it.

>>31992944
Go to the vet eh
Promise

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>>31992944
See the last part of my post, if you are having trouble acquiring basic supplies in the CURRENT YEAR it's either a famine or you're retarded.

And I don't see any starving children.

>>31993003

Why are you getting so mad, buddy?

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Rate mine guise
1/2

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>>31991467
>Barrage
>Sinkevich
Bruh

>>31993215
Shit, yours is bigger

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>>31991467
>good taste
BRUH

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>>31993239
Yeah, I don't like buying anything less than 3in in length.

PA knife laws are rather laid back. Some local cops might try to tell you your knife is an illegal length, but generally speaking, if it isn't automatic or 5+ inches, they'll let you go and won't confiscate it.

If you were just out hunting and are wearing your camo, have your hunting license, etc. You can easily get away with carrying a 6in knife for field dress and defense purposes.

Note: This statement does not apply to Philadelphia. They will confiscate and book you for any edged weapon or even tool like a boxcutter if you cannot call your boss at work and have him vouche that you need it in the workplace.

What's the best stone I can get for less than $30? I'm not new to sharpening freehand or anything, to be clear, it's just that my old stone is fucked because I dropped it like a retard.
To be more precise with what I'm looking for, I'd prefer something that leaves a good edge for push cutting, not slicing.

>>31993436

1000/6000 King.

>>31989919
Spyderco Roc Cleaver, Spyderco Manix 2, Doug Ritter RSK MK1 (AKA Benchmade Ritter Griptilian), Spyderco Stretch 2.

>>31993436
Kershaw Skyline, Spyderco Tenacious/Ambitious

>>31993436
It's this option
>>31993464

King is GOAT for the price.

>>31990420
No is mikihisa

>>31969902
>>31970073
That's a beauty

>>31974338
Whyd you hate the clip anon?

>>31977144
I like it man. Nice dubs as well.

>>31980739
It a beauty. Difference between that and a regular Opie?

>>31987632
Love a good old timer

>>31994238
The clip made it more uncomfortable to hold IMO (though the handle itself is pretty comfy). Your mileage may vary. The retention on the clip wasn't that good either.

Great knife otherwise. There was a sprint run with black coated blades not too long ago. Shouldn't be too hard to find if you want one. Fred Perrin always makes solid, functional designs.

>>31993578

The stretch 2 isn't worth it in my opinion. The regular is great.

>>31993148
Very very nice bruv

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>>31971090
If you can get your hands on an auto, get a Boker Kalashnikov from Bladeops. 30-70 dollars, depending on the steel you get. A lot of people love 'em

For an Assisted knife, I recommend a Kershaw Blur (~60 USD, what I have. But I got mine for 35 USD lol) or SOG Flash 2 (~50 USD).

>mfw automatic knives with decent tier steel are cheaper than assisted opening knives

Just chopped down a branch with my zdp-189 and it still push cuts on the entire blade. Very nice.

>>31994257
Its a slim handle, but with a regular blade instead of the thin one that usually comes on an opinel slim.

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Never shared my latest grab. Made of the equivalent of 440B. Still retaining a nice edge surprisingly.

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>>31995033
Here it is in the sheath. Very classy in my opinion.

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>>31995033

Nice

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same ol same ol

>>31995033
>>31995042

Very noice.

How much you have managed to use it after getting it? Any comments on the performance of the blade & handle other than aesthetics?