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Weapons rights under Trump

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>Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump -- who said he has a concealed carry permit -- called for the expansion of gun rights Friday, including making those permits applicable nationwide.
>In a position paper published on his website Friday afternoon, Trump called for the elimination of gun and magazine bans, labeling them a "total failure."
>"Law-abiding people should be allowed to own the firearm of their choice. The government has no business dictating what types of firearms good, honest people are allowed to own," Trump wrote.
>Trump said in the paper he has a concealed carry permit. The permits, which are issued by states, should be valid nationwide like a driver's license, Trump said.
>"If we can do that for driving -- which is a privilege, not a right -- then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege," Trump said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/09/18/trump-plan-calls-for-nationwide-concealed-carry-and-an-end-to-gun-bans/
Did you thank Trump and /pol/ today /k/?
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I do, thank god I do.
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OP here, even more:
>Yesterday’s Five Fast Gun Reforms President Trump Will Sign Into Law focused on five gun law reforms that newly election President Donald Trump could implement shortly after taking office.
They included:
>Ending Gun-Free Zones On Military Bases
>National Concealed Carry Reciprocity
>Legalizing Silencers
>NICS Background Check Reform
>Allow Importation of Collectable Historical Firearms
>Repeal the Hughes Amendment
>Remove Short-Barreled Rifles, “Any Other Weapons” From the National Firearms Act
http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/11/10/three-gun-laws-reform-president-trump/
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>>31965972
What a time to be alive!
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>>31965998
>Ending Gun-Free Zones On Military Bases

this is so retarded
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>>31966020
CTR detected
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>>31965998
My heart stopped and i jizzed myself!
My life will soon be complete!
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>>31966020
Kill yourself.
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>>31965972
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>ending the Hughes amendment
PSLPLSPLSPKSPKSPKSPSLPLSPLSPLS
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This must be a dream.
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>>31966026
>>being in the military willingly giving up your rights and autonomy
>>not recognizing how many retards, sadists, and trash are around you.

Let's arm the goons

Great idea
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I thought Trump would be bad, but damn...
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>>31966075
This. Such a step-back in terms of gun control and protecting our children.
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>>31965998
>mfw full auto owners opposing this because they'd'd loose their retirement fund
Time to stop bragging about daddy's $10 000 toy alex
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>>31966089
You do realize that it'll never pass, right?
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>>31966042
OOOH BABY YOU KNOW THAT LOVE HURTS
WE'LL MAKE HEAVEN A PLACE ON EARTH
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>>31966006
Why does that dog look like snoop dog?
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Woul national carry even effect NYC??
I live in NYS and travel there unarmed
It sucks but the food is too good
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>>31966081

Yeah,

How many chilluns have to die before you realize how important gun control is /k/?
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>>31966096
Majority republican congress and senate it has a damn good chance.
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>>31966104
Why does that snoop dog look like a dog?
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>>31966109
>good food
>ruins it by drinking fucking soda pop
Drink water or a good craft beer you fucking faggot
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>>31966111
That honestly doesn't mean anything. They aren't going to work to repeal the Hughes amendment or the NFA
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>>31966118
>tips fedora
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>>31966118
this. Also, MAGA.
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>>31966081
>>31966110
No you fucking shills, im FOR GUN RIGHTS
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>>31966110
all of them
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>>31966128
>the ADULT MALE drinking the carbonated Jew has the gall to call others a fedora tipper
lel
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>>31965972
Isn't this the same guy that would allow cops to Stop n' Frisk your guns away from you?
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>>31966152
I don't even drink soda but you sound autistic as hell
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>>31966136
Yup
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>>31966155
Only if you're a nigger or a Mexican.
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>>31966122
Probably not but at least they'll unfuck a lot of stuff in the process making gun ownership the way it should be.
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>>31966155
Yes
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>>31966152

>The ADULT male choosing what to drink FREELY without paying attention to autists telling him WHAT TO DO.
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>>31966171
>4chan is srs bsns
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>>31966180
>muh freedom
I bet you think that adults have no obligation to the next generation as well, huh?
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>>31965972
>>31965998
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>>31966190

>Understanding responsability as something bigger rather than in individual terms.

Bet you were even born in 1960.
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>>31965972
holy fucking shit i am so happy I voted for beautiful orange bastard
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>>31965998

>repeal the Hughes amendment
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>>31965972
>>31965998
Does anyone else feel as if this is just a really long fever dream that just a little too good to be true?
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>>31966104
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>>31966071
We've seen how making a military base a gun free Zone worked. Next time secret hadji decides to pull a hillary and start offing people he's gonna catch a few rounds before he gets very far
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>>31966109
>national
>not affecting a city within the nation

do you know what national means, anon?
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>>31966197
>semantics
okay
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>>31966218
If the military wanted guns on bases it was hardly libruls stopping them, dummy.

But yeah, that other guy is a faggot and it's good that they can now.
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>>31966218

Maybe I'm deeply mistaken, but those are IDF troops right?
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>hughes amendment

THIS IS HUGHHHHHHGE
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>>31965972
>>31965998
>MFW the NFA gets fucked
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>>31965972
>>31965998
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>>31965972
>>31965998

BIGLY
I
G
L
Y
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>>31966271
yup.
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>>31966222
Its NYC they are retarded
But I hope it does go into full effect there as I have a NYS permit

Shit city but the food is great
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>>31965998

those last two reforms were ones the blog post 'expected' to be repealed. trump hasn't said shit about SBRs or NFA guns.
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Watching the butthurt on boards like /k/ and /pol/ will be beautiful when Trump does not follow through on his campaign promises and becomes a puppet for the GOP and literally nothing gets done to protect the second amendment
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His son is leading the 2A Coalition he is forming with various gun enthusiasts, writers, and business owners as members. His son is /k/ommando as fuck.

It's a bright future for us ahead.
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>>31965972
as a non-white American with friends who have been the victims of hate crimes in the last few days...I think the 2nd Amendment will probably become much more popular in the near future. I fear for my safety and have never felt an appreciation for 2A as I do right now.

I wonder if people in the Trump camp would be willing to help us in learning proper firearms handling and maybe the legal side of these things too? Obviously no real experience in these things so anything would help.
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>>31966303
Trump doing nothing is infinitely better than Shillbot nominating a lib supreme court justice that strikes down Heller.
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>>31965972
> they think promises made over a year ago while trying to secure support will be valid after he's won

I'm hopeful too, guys, but I can't see him actually being able to make these kinds of wide sweeping changes, especially with gun laws being such a political minefield.
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>>31966314
Benefit of the doubt here, what you should do is go to a firearm range and ask for help understanding firearms, your local laws, and handling.
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>>31966331
there shouldn't be any issue right? I'm a law-abiding citizen and I'm not burning anything or taking shits on the ground.
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>>31966255
An executive order took guns off bases you ignorant fag.
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>>31965998
Delicious SVT40s finally.
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>>31966176
As it should be
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>>31966303
Yeah. They'll finally understand the disappointment of people who voted for Obama.
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>>31966337
>executive order took guns off bases

http://www.snopes.com/Politics/clintons/baseguns.asp

donal pls
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>>31966376

>(((((SNOPES)))))
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>>31966335
I'm assuming you're Latino or black. As long as your local range/gun shop isn't run by turbo rednecks, no you shouldn't have any problems.
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>>31966020
>the fact that gun free zones exist on military bases in the first place

this is so retarded

>ftfy
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>>31966335
Should be fine so long as you follow general rules of society.
Just express a genuine interest in guns and self defense. Don't be afraid to admit you don't know shit either because often people will love the chance to show off their knowledge about guns and handling them.

Really just be polite and friendly and you should have a good time. Unless of course you're dealing with a giant ass hole but that's something that would be out of your control.
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>>31966020
I'm skeptic about that as well. I have a feeling suicides would rise instantly from people stealing their buddy's pistol or using their own to off themselves.
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>>31966183
Enfields are so ugly.
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>>31966460
And/or homicides as well.
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>>31966152
>the JOBLESS HIPSTER drinking craft beer for lunch because he has no job to return to in the afternoon
kek
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>>31965998
MY DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK
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>>31966118

>that guy who says soda pop unironically
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>>31966510
>that guy that calls every soda Coke regardless of what it is
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>>31966510
My grandma used to call them sodies (soh-dees) or sodie pop.
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>>31966517
I think that guy's name is Cleetus or Jim-Bob.
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>>31966110
>>31966146
>all of them
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>>31966478
>Let the military have guns? What the fuck?

Drop dead my man. If we see a spike in suicides we'll be cleaning up the unwanted.
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>>31966541
Edgy.
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I don't see them freeing machineguns from the registry. I'd love to see short barrels become unregistered, though, and I think maybe that could happen.
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>>31966547
Yeah because we should be keeping mentally unstable people in the business of using guns to kill people while trying to prevent them from using guns. Fuck off. Reminder personally owned weapons would have stopped every Muslim terrorist attack on CONUS bases.
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>>31966111
Praise kek!
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>>31966111
We will not be able to get them legalized because the government doesn't know how to market.
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>>31966624
good thing our prez is a man of successful business. He will surely know how to market it, or find the right person that does.
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>>31966484
>the CORPORATE DRONE doesn't work for a small business where having a beer with your boss and friends at lunch is not only acceptable but expected

MFW boss said Monday he's giving us a half day Tuesday and if you wore your "I voted" sticker when you came in that afternoon, he'd buy your pint at lunch today.

MFW he said today, since Trump won, anyone who voted gets to take a nooner with pay.

Gotta love small businesses. Were 10% ahead on our net goal for the year and the boss is saying if he sees a notable difference with Trump's promised tax cuts, we're all getting triple cost of living adjustment next year. Now tell me again how I'm a JOBLESS HIPSTER? You were right about one thing though, I don't have to go back to work this afternoon.
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>>31966376
Snopes owner was openly supporting Clinton on record
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Anyone know if Trump is planning on eventually making concealed carry legal without a permit like some states already have? Or at least making it easier to get?
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/pol/ is now accepting apologies. Please report to /pol/ and give your thanks
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>>31966279
i was so proud to be a citizen of this state in that moment, no lie
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>>31966155
Just don't be a nigger and you'll be fine
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>>31966303
But Trump lost the election in a landslide, just like you said he would.
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>>31966665
>>31966666
almost had that get, shame because small businesses can be chill as fuck to work at.
The company my brother works at has a bong in the kitchen.
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>>31966460
They already happen whether this bill gets passed or not, you dumb fuck. I've seen stories of people committing suicide in fucking bases with guns no less. "Oh wait, I thought bases were gun-free?!"

Even then, the mentally unstable people get weeded out, either by suicide still, or shot by someone who has a cc.
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>>31965972
Full Auto SBR WHEN
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>>31966725
Fuck off. Your mods are Leddit cucks who removed Trump threads on a daily basis and banned people for posting anti-Hillary shit. The times I ventured over it was 90% ctr pro Hill threads. You should thank people on boards like /k/ and /out/ for actually going out and voting.
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>>31965972

What's some good first guns /k/?

I've had a lever action bb rifle for the longest time so I love those kinds. Also want a pistol for CC.
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>>31966771
>Mods are libtards faggots
>Anons keep posting anyway

<I-is your fault mods are pro hillary libtards.

Nope, we resisted and we won.
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>>31966096
Some of it is executive order, pretty sure he doesn't need support to repeal
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>>31965998
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>>31966771
Yeah it has sucked recently, but/pol/ supported Trump when it mattered, right from the beginning
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>>31966771
>posting this many lies
>fucking trumpgen hourly with people starting shut over who gets to start the next one

How butthurt are you right now? We're you one of those faggots justifying their Hillary vote because "she probably doesn't even care about guns all that much?" Did you also vote for Obama with the same belief? Are you a member of the screaming horde of faggots who believe VP Pence is going to literally black bag you sk he can taze the gay away?
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Always hated Trump. Always have, always will. The man is a racist sexist bigot.

That being said, him getting elected with a republican senate and congress and potentially SCOTUS is the greatest thing to ever hear as a gun owner.
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>>31965972
>Tell Us Your Story
Don't fuck this up /k/
https://apply.ptt.gov/yourstory/
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>>31966828
Kek. No you didn't. I was there from the beginning and /pol/ fucking hated Trump. He was the orange celebrity that continually made a fool of himself. I was there when you guys were trying to make Cruz the repub nominee by slandering Trump. You guys didn't support Trump until Cruz lost to Carson.
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You morons. Trump doesn't care about the 2a. He's secretly liberal.

You should have nominated Jeb. Only Jeb would have fought for us. Hispanic Americans are the biggest supporters of 2a. Look at CA. Amnesty would have been great for us.
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>>31966847
I voted for Trump. I would have preferred a different Republican but he will have to do. /k/ isn't a political board so he wasn't brought up much here, but I can say with certainty there weren't any pro Hillary threads here. That would be /pol.

If you honestly believe someone on the weapons board would vote for someone trying to get rid of guns, you are pretty fucking stupid.
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>>31966848
>the man is a racist sexist bigot.
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>>31966864
Pol BTFO
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>>31966864
>>31966828
>>31966886
>>31966848
So much easy b8
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>>31966864
how new r u?
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>>31966118
>soda pop
>not just saying "soda"
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>>31966864
You're right. Thank god trump lost here on bizarro world.
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>>31966937
>he doesn't say "pop"
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>>31966864
>he didn't read the wikileaks
CTR shills were the only ones promoting Cruz, dumbass. /pol/ went insane for Trump from the beginning.

Come on, don't you remember how
>I'm a #cruzmissile now
became a joke?
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>>31965998
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>>31966937
>not saying "pop"
I thought this was a Minnesota board
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>>31965972
>>31965998
>>31966206
I cant contain myself!
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>>31966864
>you guys were trying to make Cruz the repub nominee
/pol/ was, is, and always will be for ¡Jeb!
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>>31966771
/out/ supported Trump?

IIRC that board is kibda hippie liberal -ish.
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>>31966319
This
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>>31966020
Go fuck yourself. I'm a prior active, now weekend warrior who spends his only time disarmed when I'm driving to base and working there each month.

My base is in little Mogadishu and we have been ordered not to go to nearby businesses or even wear our uniforms while leaving base because of how many ISIS sympathizers there are. Our base has regular suspected dry runs. We need our regular personnel to have guns because our security forces have taken 15+ minutes at times to track down and escort out Somali taxi drivers who have "accidentally" run the gate.

This executive order would be a Godsend.
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>>31966314
Assuming you're not trolling for the sake of it,

Gun owners are almost universally more than happy to teach anyone to defend themselves. Unless they're hyperfudds with two teeth and "South Will Rise Again" bumper stickers, it doesn't matter if you're black, gay, jewish, female, whatever. The 2nd Amendment doesn't discriminate, and most gun owners know that. If you were in my area, me and my crew would be more than happy to teach you basic safety and gun handling. After that, it's just practice. Buy a cheap AK or AR, and just put rounds downrange. Watch youtube videos to get an idea for proper stance and technique, and then practice as much as your ammo budget allows. Being a good shooter is 90% muscle memory.

The media likes to paint gun owners as all being illiterate redneck racist psychos, but that's complete horseshit. Gun people are some of the most open, friendly and accepting people I know as long as you show an interest in the lifestyle and don't act like you know more than you do.
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>>31965972
>>31965998
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>>31966803
A Henry .22 levergun is basically a big boy's Red Ryder. I love mine, the thing is a fucking laser and they're only like $300. As for concealed carry, find a range which rents pistols and try a bunch out. You want the one that feels the most natural in your hand and which you shoot best with. Pistols are a super personal thing.
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>>31966856
Legalize marijuana. It's ridiculous that alcohol is legal but marijuana is not. Nationwide legalization followed by a federal "sin" tax. Use said tax money along with profits from student loan interest to fund trade schools across the country. America doesn't need any more higher education. It needs trades. Carpenters, electricians, welders, etc. Make these available to the American people and grow the working class. Offset cost by allowing citizens to attend for discounted/free with a legal binding agreement that after they become employed in the trade they learned for X amount of time they have a federal deduction equal to X% of taxable earnings to pay back cost of training. If you want to make America great again you need to make America work again. End the trend of this service based society and renew the America that creates the best products in the world.

Also, negotiate open market with Russia for small arms and ammo sales please

>Did I do good /k/?
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>>31965998
>National Concealed Carry Reciprocity

YES
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>>31966210
Quit pissing in our corn flakes and let us have a little bit of hope.
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>>31966314
>with friends who have been the victims of hate crimes in the last few days

Was this one of them?
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>mfw i witnessed america becoming great again

i'm french, and proud to say you guys did a wonderfull job, also fuck our country trump is 100% right about it

now post your celebration music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M
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>>31965998

It's like /k/ issued a manifesto
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>>31966958
Ayyy my negro

MN/k/ represent
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>>31966848
Kill yourself faggot
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>>31967293
Thanks, Frenchbro. You guys are all right, too.
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>>31967323
>You guys are all right, too.
Don't go to Paris tomorrow
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>>31967264
this is what I want. I dont want to wonder when I cross a state border whether or not I can go to jail for my semi auto in my waistband.
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>>31967329
>tomorrow
more like forever and ever, neither marseille tho, that shit is french detroit
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>>31967307
we are always here

pls trump deport the somalis from our state
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>>31966020
I didn't know Nidal Hasan browsed /k/
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>>31967351
>pls trump deport the somalis from our state

>mfw Trump builds a wall around North Minneapolis
>mfw he sends all the somalis there
>mfw Jesse Ventura in Escape from Minneapolis
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>>31966803
A .22lr Henry lever action was my first rifle. Though if you want something in a larger caliber, try to find a Marlin that was made before they were bought out by Remington.
A Marlin in .44 mag is still one of my absolute favorite guns to shoot for fun.
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>>31965972
/pol/ should be thanking /k/.

The largest interest group of voters in the USA launched him to the presidency as if by ICBM.
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>>31966524
My name is Cameron :,(

I just want my root beer Coke with my Duganov and full auto FAL please
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>>31967416
Fellow Minneapolis fag here.

I love how all the faggots on my normie-book are blaming Trump for the Maple Grove HS graffiti.
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>>31965998
> ""has a concealed carry license""
> anti gun most of his life
> said he agreed with Obama after newtown
> only two pictures of him holding exist holding a gun
> they're both ceremonial fudd guns
> son is a fudd
> before he was even nominated conspired with the NRA for watchlist bans

I'll give him a chance, but please, never make me say I told you so.

> what could've been
https://youtu.be/HppIgbYamzw
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>>31967474
Fucking guaranteed it's either just trolling irl or Hill-Shills false flagging. My campus is in full meltdown out here, all the multicolor haired freaks are walking around teary-eyed looking like someone clotheslined them with a twobyfour. It's glorious.
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>>31967329
kek'd
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>>31967481
> son is a fudd

lol no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vlu2G5UkXk
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>Hill-Shills false flagging
Never considered that. I'd bet almost anything that's what it is now.

>liberal tears
In addition to being happy to see Hilary lose, I get to enjoy seeing all the hipster faggots cry and throw tantrums for not getting their way.

Weirdly, I have a buddy that lives deep in N. Minneapolis (he's white) that's a fellow gun nut, but he ardently supported Hilary. He's on the side of the protesters because "Anon, have some empathy, they're scared." What do I do about my friend becoming a massive retard recently?
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>>31967481
His son is pro-gun as fuck and hopefully he will avoid having the NRA buy him out so we can get all the imports we want.

Honestly I think that unregistered suppressors is a near definite. If we're lucky we'll get SBRs/AOWs and imports. If Allah blesses us we'll get a repeal of the Hughes.

We need to get support if any of this is to happen. Someone get /pol/, we need meme magic.
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So can trump do anything to save those of us that live in CA? Or do I still have to movem
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>>31967481

>fudd guns

PTR gave him a PTR91 SC.

Sorry in advance for the facekike link.

https://www.face REMOVE THIS book.com/bill.garofalo/videos/745490072248797/
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>>31967333
Exactly. My state already made me go through so much shit to get a CC permit, I shouldn't have to go through a whole new process just so I can visit my friends with it.
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>>31967561
It probably wouldn't be smart to set a precedent for the feds being able to dictate too much inside of a state. Don't put in any tools you'd hate to see the Dems have.
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>>31965998
>National Concealed Carry Reciprocity

So if I'm in Cali and this gets passed, I can go to Utah and get a CCW and use it in CA?
https://bci.utah.gov/concealed-firearm/how-do-i-apply-for-a-concealed-firearm-permit/
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>>31967547
>I'd bet almost anything that's what it is now
This is hella common with progressives. They love to fake hate crimes for attention. It's just the 2016 version of crying wolf.

>I get to enjoy seeing all the hipster faggots cry and throw tantrums for not getting their way.
I've never been happier to be at a liberal arts college. We're getting (((Ben Shapiro))) to come speak on campus and rub salt in the wounds. The sheer level of butthurt will be enough to power the town for years.

>What do I do about my friend becoming a massive retard recently?
I recommend bleach.
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>>31966848
>racist
Which is why a black man is one of his leading candidates for head of Homeland Security?
>sexist
Which is why he had the first female campaign manager in the history of his party?
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>>31966470
That's just the girl holding it
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>>31965998
Even though I can't profit from this as a Yuro, I'm happy for you burgers.
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>>31967595
>never been happier to be at a liberal arts college.

Funny part is a lot of them cling to the hope that Trump will step down, or the electoral college will suddenly change their decision to hilary.

They can't see that half the country is sick of their elitist bullshit.
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>>31967612
She's not ugly at all, wtf
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>>31967621
It's Brexit all over again. The working class worldwide is sick of the Left's shit, and are letting them know with their votes. And the leftists are in total denial about it.
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>>31967538
Heh
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>>31967640
There's no actual shot at Hilary coming out of left field, right?
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He needs to make sure this is passed entirely as a regular law, not an executive order. If it's an EO then his successor can flip it like he's flipping Obama's. If it's a law then they can still try and sneak in a semi-flip EO but otherwise they'll need the whole house/senate/president.

I still find it amazing now my great panic is to get enough money to buy all this shit before he's out of office and they try and reverse it. Like trump said "You're going to be tired of winning".

>>31967640

The limousine liberal disdain is remarkable and nothing I'd ever seen before besides Brexit. I hate communism but I honestly miss a little bit the older school of communism and socialism that at least -pretended- to care about the proletariat and empower them. This new leftism holds the non-urban working class in reviled contempt and disdain and treats them like maids and servants in victorian England - as tools who should neither be seen nor heard.
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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>>31967590
If there's no residency requirement, I guess so. Talk to a lawyer first, obv.
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>>31967567
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>>31965998
My fucking dick can only get so erect
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>>31967711

That's a nice-lookin' rifle, I wonder wh-

>cargo shorts

Nvm
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>>31967697

Of course there is not. She conceded already, Obama recognized him as the elected president. The only thing that could happen is that Trump would be impeached a'la Nixon and it'd go to Pence or to whoever else is next in succession if Pence was too.

And that is not going to happen, not least because has not even been fucking inagurated yet. Even if a tape came out of Trump saying "Spics and niggers should hang from trees" the constitutional law would at best allow them to do some kind of fast-track impeachment before he even takes office but it'd go back to Pence.

There is no mechanism that I know of in the law that stipulates an ability to call an early election or a do-over. And to change the electoral college system requires a constitutional amendment.
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>>31967670
Neat.
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>>31967471

The distance between /k/ and /pol/ is roughly 3 shots of tequila.
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>>31967698
>new leftism holds the non-urban working class in reviled contempt and disdain and treats them like maids and servants in victorian England - as tools who should neither be seen nor heard.

And that's why those faggots lost. You can't expect to basically say that everyone that isn't a minority, a self-victimized nutcase, or a self-hating white can go fuck themselves, and think that'll be accepted.

I use to swing a little left, but now because of those losers, fuck no. I want no part in their shit.
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>>31967727
Kek, so true.
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>>31967721
>giving a fuck what people wear
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>>31967697
No. She conceded, it's over.

>>31967698
>limousine liberal
This is a great term, I'm keeping it.

But yeah, you're spot on. I used to be a socialist when I thought that's what socialism was about (and I was an edge teenager), now it's not about that any more. The fucking Neo-Progressives have ruined everything that was good about the Left. Why can't we have socialists like Orwell sticking up for workers and gun rights anymore?
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>>31966042
>no more pansy ass rights to criminals who get shot
>national CC reciprocity
>no more silly magazine restrictions
>possibility of owning giggle-switch firearms again
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>>31967727
kek
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>>31967722
Dub dubs can't lie.

Fuckin' whew.
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>>31967229
>legalize Marijuana

Opinion discarded. Time to grow up.
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>>31967580
Well if he uses the constitution as a jumping off point.... I don't see how Dems could use the constitution against me.
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>>31967763
>restricting people's right to do whatever they want without hurting anyone because you don't like it

I didn't know Progressives came to this board.
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>>31967721
nigger do you even know how nice cargo shorts are?
>comfy because shorts
>lots of pockets for shit
>belt loops so you can carry lead bricks if you want
>durable as fuck
>not basketball shorts
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>>31965972
>>31965998
>>31965998
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>national conceal carry
please god pass this with executive order niggers are everywhere and every white american has the natural right to self protection

>muh pssh pssh
I deserve to remove jheri curl trying to attack my beautiful white wife and daughter in my home without destroying my hearing or my innocent christian daughter's hearing

>gun free zones
>backgrounds
>full retard
>sbrs
I don't care if i can have the first two
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>>31966109
>Barqs

10/10, I fucking love Barq's root-beer.
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>>31966460
so expand the programs for mental health there and take care of our veterans.

you piece of shit. my friends with CCWs cant carry on base. terrorists attack military bases. if officers dont want them carrying on the job thats a work issue and can be sorted out with military regulations
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>>31967742
>Why can't we have socialists like Orwell sticking up for workers and gun rights anymore?

Because the left is made up of upper-middle class faggots with no life experiences outside of their own sheltered lives.

They didn't grow up with guns, but heard bad things from their faggots parents, and so hate them. They tout love like it's a religion, but they don't even know what they want, they're still mentally 16 and want to stir things up, good or bad.
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>>31967697
No. The only faithless elector this season is a Trump supporter.
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>>31967828
Fuck off with your identity politics horseshit. It's shit when the left does it and it's shit when you nazi fuckers do it.
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>>31966848
he is none of those things you gullible propaganda eating libcontrolled faggot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxaKUo5naoY
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>>31967867
Nazis and Leftist Progressives are almost the same thing, both fascist faggots.
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>>31966470
That's an M1 Garand she's holding.
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>>31967863
Sad but true. These are the people I was raised by and grew up with. They mean well, but they live in a bubble totally disconnected from reality and are hopelessly immature and misinformed.
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IM IN CALIFORNIA HELP ME TRUMP!


there currently are no national bans on magazines or assault weapons, would a federal law TRUMP state bans like california?
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>>31967763
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>>31966484

>this limp livered pussy faggot who can't handle one beer at lunch.

Been having a pint every day at lunch for years and my job performance has never suffered.
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>>31967903
i regularly drink a beer with lunch and dinner, i have no problem getting work done. buzz is always gone by the time i start eating food
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>>31966738

>hurr durr it's ok to shit on your Constitutional rights as long as you're not white

You faggots are why Gov Reagan passed gun control in Cali. Eat shit.
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>>31967886
Seriously. Anyone who thinks race has any effect on behavior, be they an SJW or a Nazi, is a fucking moron and should have some sense beaten into them with a pipe wrench. There's a cultural problem with inner city blacks sure, but I've seen plenty of white people who were even bigger niggers. Inner city crackheads got nothing on trailerpark methheads in terms of being a waste of skin.
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>>31967897
federal>state
plus cali gives no fucks about >muh states rights
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>>31967763

I don't smoke the devil's lettuce often but all those tax dollars would be pretty nice. Plus that means we could start selling high quality cali weed instead of that shitty mexican ditch weed.
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>>31967909
>Eugenics still alive and well in the background.
Lel i laugh evertim.
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>Allow Importation of Collectable Historical Firearms

mfw

mattis for sec def when?
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>>31967911
Yeaaaah.... Pedigree matters bub
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>>31965998
>>31965972
>>31967821
there's literally no source for any of this. it's a blog post from "Bob Owens" about laws he wants to see

what is wrong with you people
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>>31965998
>nationwide reciprocity
TYBT
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>>31967911
>There's a cultural problem with inner city blacks

Mostly due to Ronnie and Ollie North flooding the inner city with all the coke they bought to fund the Contras, and then doubling down on the drug war to imprison blacks at a higher rate than whites.

The inner cities would be in better shape if people weren't going to jail for decades for crack cocaine.
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I'd first like to say that I'm very happy to hear these words from our President-elect. With that, I'd also like to ask you guys what the hell you're thinking? When Obango was trying to force his way into disarming us, /k/ was adamant about the fact that governing gun rights was only up to the states themselves. What makes you think this is going to be any different?
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>>31967909
>>hurr durr it's ok to shit on your Constitutional rights as long as you're not white
We tried it your way and nearly lost the entire fucking country. Sit down and shut up, shitskin.
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>>31967763

Get fucked faggot. I work 80 hours a week at my business that I own. if I want to use my sunday off to smoke a whole bag of weed and watch dumb shit on youtube for hours it should be within my rights.
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is it a good time to move to america or wait for even more gun unbans?
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>>31967962
Only insofar as how your parents raise you. If you have no dad and your mom works two jobs and drinks all day, you're probably going to turn into a criminal shithead no matter how much melanin there is in your skin. If your parents raise you to be polite, responsible and law abiding, you're probably going to end up being a decent productive member of society.

>>31967971
Yeah Reagan was a piece of shit president and the drug war was a fucking mistake. He cocked up the entire country and stuck us with a criminal problem we're still dealing with 30 years later. Not to mention he was anti-gun.

>>31967984
Yeah well Germany tried it your way, and look what happened to them. So, sit down and shut up, skinhead.
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>>31967984

>hurr durr 2a is sacred but fuck all the other amendments

Go back to /pol/ you white nigger.
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>>31968010
>He cocked up the entire country and stuck us with a criminal problem we're still dealing with 30 years later.

Also he gutted mental health care in this country and we're only just now starting to feel the effects.

Fuck ronald reagan and everybody who worships him. John Hinckley Jr. had the right idea.
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>>31967911
>Inner city crackheads got nothing on trailerpark methheads

I like to say that to people that blindly believe in white privilege. That they've obviously never been to a trailer park or heard of Eastern Europe.
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>>31966314

The NRA is actually a non-partisan, HIGHLY inclusive (seriously look at their board, it's fucking diverse) organization. They are your friends for gun rights and gun education. Look them up, join up, and then tell your representatives that you are a card-carrying member today.
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>>31968081
NRA shill pls go

They are a for profit, I think you can do the math.
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>>31967087
>Hillary wins
>/k/ grabs sks goes innawoods
>Woods now full of guys with guns
>/out/ is too scared to go /out/ because they're afraid of guns
Think about it
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>>31968050
>Also he gutted mental health care in this country and we're only just now starting to feel the effects.
And as a result we have fucking mass shootings and dumbass progressives demanding gun bans to fix a problem guns didn't cause. Anyone who cares about the 2A and worships Reagan is medically stupid.

>>31968051
It's fucking stupid. I don't like using the term "cultural marxism" because it's really academic and people don't know what it means if you don't explain it, but that's exactly what "privilege" is code for. The problem is that actual Marxism is at least based on something that IS universal and can be objectively measured, wealth, whereas this shit is neither universal nor objective. White people can or can not have power in society, same for any other race, but the rich always have power, and the poor always have none. Not that I support economic Marxism in any way, but at least it's got some basis in reality.
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>>31966222
National carry would effect Jew York, bit not anything else.
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>>31967892
They do mean well, but they have no idea what the fuck they're talking about. And having an ardent belief in something you don't understand, nor even understand why it exists, is dangerous.

Hell, I used to date a gril that's from a lily white neighborhood who once took her brother to a big lots over by where I lived near North Minneapolis at the time, and he was apparently in awe and didn't even know places like that existed. Like, listen faggot, it gets WAY worse than that.
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>>31968010
>Yeah well Germany tried it your way, and look what happened to them.
The US and Russia kicked their asses with some assistance from the Brits. For obvious reasons that's not a risk factor for the US.
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>>31967285
I'm actually getting an election reading this
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>>31967763
Funny thing is I don't even smoke. Just my opinion on the matter. You have no issue with big brother taking away people's god given right to enjoy one of the plants of the earth then complain when muh 2A is assaulted
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>>31967556
Wasn't it said that the machine gun murder rate was primarily held by police forces? As in, civilians that owned transferable MGs haven't killed anyone?

I'm almost certain /pol/ could spin it so that the brutality of the police state needs to be fought against with weapons of equal capability, or some shit.

>xxx people murdered by machine guns
>all of them in police and by police hands
>don't YOU deserve a chance at life?
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>>31968162
*in and by police hands
Fuck you, autocorrect.
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The only thing I really want to see is Trump telling the ATF to fuck off with stupid non-law opinions like this shit here.
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>>31968115

It doesn't help that no Republican alive would ever dream of trying to walk back a Reagan policy. They'd be lynched.

Reagan was the downfall of the Republican party. Once all the old fucks who worship him like a saint die out the Repubs are going to have to change message if they ever want a majority like this again.

Trump won with less votes than McCain and Romney lost to obama with. The Republicans didn't win this, Democrats stayed home and let them have it. I hope the GOP can drop their current hubris long enough to recognize that.
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>>31968115
>Not that I support economic Marxism in any way, but at least it's got some basis in reality.

Agreed. They aren't based on the tenants of leftism that's even tangible, they skipped to full-blown Stalin-tier persecution and NKVD inspired Kafka Trapping tactics to force people to either admit guilt to things they didn't do, or in the very least have no defense because their tactics aren't based on logic or reasoning.
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>>31968177
REEEEEEEEEE
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>>31966314
Dude, this shit is what makes me kinda happy. LGBTQA+ and minorities are gonna be /k/ as fuck after these 4-8 years are over. I feel bad for them being so scared, but the antis will lose the majority of their consitiutents.
I have some liberal friends back home home who are legit scared and I'm gonna be the guy that gets them into funs.
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>>31968198
>I feel bad for them being so scared
I dont. What the fuck do they think is gonna happen? Nazis laws? Fuck em, they'll secretly feel like idiots when they realize nothing is going to happen to them.
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>>31968159
>election
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>>31967763
I hate drugs on principle, but even I see that legalizing weed makes perfect fucking sense

>tax income
>less convicts draining our budget
>less teenagers going to jail for possession of a fucking plant
>strip gangs/cartels of a significant amount of income

Yeah it smells bad, but it doesn't kill, and it's better than alcohol and tobacco so why the fuck not
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>>31968198

I'm in the South and it's only the Yankees that are anti-gun down here. I'm politically liberal but I grew up around guns and hunting. I write my dem congressmen and senators often telling them that the second they support gun control they lose my vote, and a lot of people agree with me.

I own a restaurant and I do range days and invite my employees out all the time. Even the most pinko bleeding heart antiguns that I have working for me have changed their opinions and are now either hasguns or atleast not anti-guns.

We all mock Liberals as being a bunch of pussy faggots but if we made an attempt to show them that guns are actually fun in a non-judgemental way you'd be surprised how many will catch on.
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>>31968186
keep shootin', putin
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>>31968223
>Yeah it smells bad

Maybe that shitty mexican garbage weed. Prime Humboldt Cali weed smells like candy.
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>>31967976
>I'd first like to say that I'm very happy to hear these words from our President-elect. With that, I'd also like to ask you guys what the hell you're thinking? When Obango was trying to force his way into disarming us, /k/ was adamant about the fact that governing gun rights was only up to the states themselves. What makes you think this is going to be any different?


This.
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>>31966335
Dude you'll be totally fine. Unlesz they're total trailer trash, theyre gonna be quite welcoming that someone's getting into guns and is interested in buying them.
I'm mexican in rural Northern AZ and I have yet to meet a gun owner/vender that put my race above my interests in the 2nd Amendment. Shooting is a national pastime and contrary to anti-propaganda, brings together and is enjoyed by a diverse group of people.
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>>31968211

Most of them aren't as scared of trump as they are of Mike Pence, especially if the rumors are true and he's basically going to be shadow president.
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>>31966020
After Fort Hood, really?
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>>31967634
You must like strong jaws and cock eyedness
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>>31965972
Did /k/ just hit the jackpot?
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Is there even a slight chance New York might be cockslapped and I can own actual firearms in these next 4 years?
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>>31965972
>>31965998
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>>31968237
>Smells like candy
No it still stinks. It's just a good stink, kinda like that ripe fart after taco night where you can't help but bask in your odorous creation.
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>>31968258

Remember how Giuliani shit on everybody's rights when he was mayor?

Now he's going to be in Trump's cabinet and will keep doing just that.

I'll celebrate the day he's dead.
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>>31968131
Yeah, they're sheltered, privileged, naive people who have been given participation ribbons and told they're special snowflakes all their lives, never being exposed to the harshness of reality. And they're being cajoled into becoming activists by psychotic academic marxists. Can't end well.

Yeah we think North Minneapolis is bad, but we're peaceful as shit compared to LA, NY, Detroit... Still, I got out of the Twin Cities as soon as I could.

>>31968154
They got almost the entire world to unite in order to kick their asses because they were fucking evil. And I don't use that word lightly. And now they're cucked to oblivion out of collective guilt. Your ideology destroys nations, just like any identity politics.

>>31968182
Seriously. But both parties are fucked in the head and have been for decades. If the system was fair they'd have become irrelevant long ago.

>>31968188
It's feels over reals. Lazyness and lack of responsibility.

>>31968198
I've been saying for years that it would be easy to make the Left pro gun for these reasons. Frame it as a civil rights thing, say gun control is racist and they'll eat it up.

>>31968225
>We all mock Liberals as being a bunch of pussy faggots but if we made an attempt to show them that guns are actually fun in a non-judgemental way you'd be surprised how many will catch on
This, seriously. Support for gun control is just ignorance. Nothing more.
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>>31965998
I'm gonna cream myself if this happens.
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>>31965972
>who said he has a concealed carry permit
I always thought it was funny that getting one in NYC is like pulling teeth, unless you're a billionaire/celebrity.

Different rules for us common folk I guess.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/stancollender/2016/11/11/gop-to-do-previously-unimaginable-things-to-slam-dunk-its-agenda/#299d906067b5

A lot of shit is going to get passed and get passed quickly. I'm amazed Republicans held the senate. Funny how they thought Trump would doom them on the downballot but ended up being their savior.
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>>31968286
>got out of the Twin Cities as soon as I could.

Where'd you go? I love Minneapolis as a city, but how openly sjw-tier it's become is ridiculous. I went to a comedy club downtown to see standup, and like half the open mic performances were just some hipster ripping on republicans...and the crowd ate that shit up.
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>There are people on /k/ RIGHT NOW that aren't happy with the outcome of this election.

We got the SCOTUS seat, you defeatist fucks. I will not let you take this victory away.
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>>31968286
>Seriously. But both parties are fucked in the head and have been for decades.

I think we're going to see the Dems cannibalize themselves and emerge from this way stronger. The smarter people on the left are already looking at where they fucked up instead of protesting in the streets.

Dems are going to be a powerhouse in 2018 and 2020. Republicans are gloating now but unless they wise up and realize they only lost because Hillary herself was unelectable, not her policies, they're going to get hit like a truck in the next few election cycles.
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>>31967329
But frenchano, it's pretty there
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>>31968328
>Dems are going to be a powerhouse in 2018 and 2020. Republicans are gloating now but unless they wise up and realize they only lost because Hillary herself was unelectable, not her policies, they're going to get hit like a truck in the next few election cycles.

This whole thing you said is what's keeping me from fully enjoying Trump's victory. I'm afraid they'll galvanize and come back stronger than ever. And they will not be kind or civil to us.
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>>31968198
You may get them to buy guns. You will never, ever get them to change the way they vote. Ever. Progressivism is a secular apocalyptic religion. Pic related -- it was NYC less than two weeks after Orlando.
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>>31968352
2020 maybe, but I don't see them recovery by 2018. The stench of Clinton is still in the air
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>>31968328
Really? Because all I've seen is DUDE, BERNIE LMAO and MUH ISMS

Granted, I don't follow much in the way of political news, so there's that.
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>>31968352
They haven't been kind or civil -- or fucking rational -- for the past decade, have they?
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>>31968352
>And they will not be kind or civil to us.

They will. Most of the liberals I know are pragmatists at heart, we were just fed up with GOP obstruction and 8 years of blatent racist disrespect of Obama.

The Dem voting base of working class whites and blacks stayed home and we know why. I'm trying to spread positivity in this loss and I think cooler heads will prevail on the left after this.

Just because I think Trump is a garbage human being doesn't mean I think all of his voters are.
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>>31967556
THIS.

I don't think the Hughes amendment is on anyone's radar right now. We need to change that. This is probably our only chance to repeal it, but no politician that I'm aware of has plans to do it. We need to start pressuring our congressmen, like-minded senators like Rand Paul as well as trump himself and Don Jr. and let them know we WANT this bad. We need to get it on the radar.
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>>31968405
>GOP obstruction
They rubber-stamped everything the evil Alinskyite bastard wanted. They failed to use the power of the purse even once after they had control of both branches of the legislature.

>8 years of blatent racist disrespect of Obama
Yeah, that's really 'pragmatic' of you. You fucking worm.
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>>31965972
>>31965998
IS /K/ WINNING??

HAVE WE STARTED THE MOVEMENT
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>>31968384
>DUDE, BERNIE LMAO

Bernie would have won, though. Him vs Trump would have been far more civil that HURR EMAILS HURR BILL CLINTON vs HURR DEPLORABLES HURR RACISTS

Trump couldn't debate on policy worth shit so he dragged Hillary down into the mud where he had the advantage. He couldn't have done that with Bernie and he would have gotten slaughtered.
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>>31968423
>Yeah, that's really 'pragmatic' of you. You fucking worm.

I live in the South, and was living in Tea Party country for most of his first term. I saw shit like this every day.

The right shouldn't be surprised when 8 years of this starts swinging back the other way.
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>>31968448
That's a Southern thang, not a conservative thang. And it pales next to every church, chapel, and small business sacked or sued by the Militant Faggot Brigade, by the fires and vandalism dealt out by the BLM assholes, and by the whiney-ass bitch crybaby almost-but-not-quite riots all over the country the past several days. Worm.
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>>31968186
KEEP SHOOTING, PUTIN!
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>>31968387
No, but imagining them with power makes my stomach turn.

>>31968405
Buuuulllllshit, I've only ever seen a leftist be calm and cool when politics aren't brought up, or you just express nothing of what you believe in...or they get triggered and shit.

Civil to those like them, absolutely, but not to anyone that isn't exactly like them.
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>>31968482
no it doesn't you stupid faggot, people have already been beaten to death by Trump supporters.

fuck you and your stupid cognitive dissonance you fucking mouthbreathing blind retard

"every church, chapel, small business" fuck you that's like 12 but i'm not surprised anything larger than 5 (or 4) is beyond you, probably never figured out you can count on both hands

moron
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>>31968490

They're going to realize that's part of the reason why they lost soon enough. It hasn't even been a week, cooler heads will prevail
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>>31968448

If the best defense is "the other side did it" then you're no better than the monster you claim to be fighting.

IS blows us up and massacres us at our concerts and our festivals but outside of a vitriolic gut-instinct desire to do the same to them we don't. And even with a proper president who isn't pulling his punches you can brutally slaughter IS without going full retard internet keyboard warrior "Let's just kill all of the ragheads"

Especially given the left's sanctimoniousness. "They go low and we go high" segways into "fucking flyover redneck racist dumbass hicks should move away from fucking dead empty towns and move to the big city fucking KKK bigots I wish we could kill all of you losers"
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>>31965972
I DID THIS FOR YOU SEMPAI!
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>>31968490
Not to mention the mote-in-thy-brother's-eye selective filter that >>31968448 shows. Unless there was an actual lynching. All the state-sponsored leftwing violence and discrimination and ruin we've endured are user-transparent to him because some good ol boy hurt muh feelings.

Keep buying ammo. Civil conflict arises when both sides are ready to fight and feel genuinely aggrieved. Nothing in the historical track record says both have to be rational.
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>>31967727
kek. Somewhat true.
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This means that I can buy the cheapest, most shot out, bubba-mangled nugget I can find, then Obrez it in front of God and everyone.
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>>31967547
>what do I recommend about my friend being retarded
Get him to get those multi hair colored faggots into guns for self protection. That way, when this pendulum swings back in a few years, we've converted a LOT of antis and they'll be incapable of gaining the support needed to put more anti-fun laws in place.
Gotta be 4 steps ahead of them, nigga.
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>>31968520
>If the best defense is "the other side did it" then you're no better than the monster you claim to be fighting.

I'm not defending it, quite the opposite actually. But nobody should be wondering where it came from.

Anger is high, just like it would be plenty high if Hillary had won on the other side. Give it a few weeks and a new Star Wars movie and people will have cooled down.
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>>31968352
That's why we have to get to work on 'changing America's demographic'. Many of these non-American leftists will have to be physically removed.
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>>31968225

Indeed. I think the NRA needs to focus on outreach and spreading gun culture to the Democratic base, the minorities that make up their constituents. Instead of trying to convince them to support Republicans just convince them to pressure their Democratic representatives to drop their efforts.
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>>31967556
Kys kebab
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>>31967867
Easy there, high school civics.

Excuse me for realizing how the real world works and knowing you don't just magically get 100% of exactly what you want... especially stemming from the left over excitement of day three out of four fucking years
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>>31965998
>things that aren't going to happen
Despite how much I would love for all that to happen, you'd have to be stupid to believe Trump will gut the NFA within months of taking office. Also, I wouldn't hold my breath on him getting rid of protectionist import restrictions.
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>>31965998
>the Hughes Amendment
I cant wait to turn 21 now
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>>31968524

If Trump is pragmatic and actually reaches across the aisle and shows willingness to work with the Dems I think a lot of this anger will die down.

His victory speech was a step in the right direction, he said yesterday he'll seek Obama's counsel, and Sanders and Warren have already expressed willingness to work with him.

This was a nasty election and I'm hoping that now it's over both sides will realize that ignoring the other's grievances gets us nowhere. I will fairly hear your concerns if you'll fairly hear mine, and I hope we can continue to for the next 4 years.
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>>31965972
Will ANY of this benefit me in California?

What are the chances we get big mags back? Or banned guns?
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>>31967203

While I agree with the bulk of your sentiment, in your own reassurances you use a liberal meme. Raising the hillbilly stereotype is part of what people are tired of with modern progressivism. It's okay to make fun of a stereotypical "redneck", thus it's okay to make fun of anyone with a similar characteristic - an accent or rural lifestyle, for example, and assume them to be violent racists.

It's been unacceptable for a long time to denigrate using almost ANY group characteristic. This is why the media collectively lost their shit when Trump dared mention that there is a crime problem with illegal immigrants from Mexico, or that it was foolish to accept immigrants from Muslim countries in the throes of active jihadi uprisings with the current sham level of screening.

Yet the same media was fine with Hillary saying that HALF of Trump's supporters were a basket of deplorables. Wide net there. Or how about "uneducated whites?" I wonder how many of the 93% of blacks who voted for Obama or 88% who voted for Hillary have a college degree? Is the implicit message that their input is worthless without a baccalaureate, and that only elites are worthy of a voice? Yet the media didn't report that the Democrats are attracting "uneducated blacks" en masse, because they correctly recognized the implicit offense. Certainly they recognized the offense intended in painting Trump supporters as ignorant with this media chant of "uneducated whites" - they just didn't care.

I have an uncle who is a proud Southerner. He's a soft-spoken blue collar guy without a college education (or high school diploma, for that matter), and sure enough, he's missing a few teeth. He likes country music, drives a truck, goes hunting from time to time, and so would fit a lot of stereotypes.

He also adopted my twin sister and I after our mom died when we were six, and paid for our college so we wouldn't have to borrow. Our mom, his sister, was white, and our father was black.
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>>31967886
This
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>>31967293
Now it's up to Le Pen, Frenchbro.
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>>31968010
>Only insofar as how your parents raise you.
Are you a science denier?
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>>31967984
Drink bleach you chunk of human garbage. You are NOT fucking up this good thing for us with your trailer park ideology.
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>>31968707
Yeah, third-worldism isn't fucking us over at all. Last time I looked California was a solidly red state. Want to go down to the Dairy Queen and get some ice cream for a quarter? Later we can go shoot my SKS that I bought for $30.
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>>31967561

For us the SCOTUS nominations are key. All the crap laws CA and NY pass will be challenged in court and wind their way up SCOTUS. With the right justices on the bench, they will take the case and tell the state they can't do that as it is unconstitutional. It's a long process, but for those of us behind enemy lines it's our only option.
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>>31968657
There have been like 5 other studies that didn't show correlation though.
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>>31965972
>>Constitutional Carry
My god. What a time to be alive. I live in a no-carry state, and I never, ever thought I'd see this day, given my state has voted democrat in every election but two.

I hope I get to see their anguish as he rams this law down their throats.
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>>31968325
Morris, it's in Western Minnesota about one county away from the Dakota boarder. Tiny town supported entirely by agriculture, manufacturing and the University of Minnesota campus there. Pretty sweet place, we have a local rifle club (I and some others even got the University to start a marksmanship club for students) with a nice 300 meter range that's open to anyone who pays $20 a year for insurance and maintenance fees. The only problem is the gun shop is part of the Ace hardware and the selection is 200% Fudd except like two DPMS Oracles, but Alexandria is only 45 minutes away and they've got a Fleet Farm and shit.

>>31968328
Yep. I'm crossing my fingers that the Progressives and Liberals will split into separate parties after the Progressives basically handed Trump the presidency. What I would do for a real Classical Liberal party...

>>31968368
Fuck off Phil

>>31968405
Yeah, the Dems aren't evil, they're just misinformed and misguided. Hanlon's razor; never presume malice when something can be adequately explained by stupidity.

>>31968434
This. The DNC handed Trump the election on a silver platter the minute they rigged it for Hillary. You don't oppose a populist demagogue who stokes resentment of the system and the elite within the working class, with a dyed-in-the-wool elite who is deeply corrupt and has all the charisma of a pit viper.

>>31968482
You know what's wrong with you, Phil? You have no fucking self-awareness. I'm sure this hasn't occurred to you since you have a brain with the consistency of swiss cheese, but just because the other side are assholes, does not mean you are not an asshole. You're the exact fucking same as BLM and the SJWs, just on the other side of the coin.

>>31968520
This.

>>31968565
They do. The NRA infuriates me because their tactics fucking suck and are ultimately counter-productive to their stated goal. We need to be reaching out to the other side and luring their voters away, not stoking fear in our own base.
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>>31966043
Fuck even cutting the bullshit NFA bullshit like sawn-shotties, SBRs, and silencers, and reopening the machine gun registry would be enough for me!
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>>31968833
>MN
>completely cucked
no surprise there
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>>31968582
You don't know how the real world works if you engage in identity politics. These things are mutually exclusive, because identity politics is collectivism, and collectivism is a delusion.

>>31968634
>While I agree with the bulk of your sentiment, in your own reassurances you use a liberal meme
Mostly as a tactic. It reassures them when you use their language. We can work on easing past these stereotypes later, once they're already sympathetic to our cause.

That said, stereotypes DO exist for a reason, and you'd be a fool to argue that these people don't exist within our community.

I agree with your sentiment as well, but let's not try and solve EVERY problem in one 4chin thread.

>>31968657
No but I am a pseudoscience denier. And that study has been debunked numerous times, and proven to not be repeatable anyway.

>>31968778
Not him, but you're a fucking idiot. Just because you oppose one extreme does not mean you support the other.

>>31968878
Better a cuck than a brain-dead paint huffing nazi.
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>>31966042

>Gun and magazine bans - the government has no business dictating what types of firearms good, honest people are allowed to own.

>Full Republican Government.

Muh fuckin dick dude. Will it actually happen?
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>>31966470
Where's the enfield in that picture?

It's obviously an SKS
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>>31968886
Easy buddy, no need to get mad. Just give me a link to this debunking and we can all be friendly.
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Are the rumors of Trump nominating Giuliani to cabinet position true?

If so then fuck him. Giuliani shit on my rights and ruled NYC like a king when he was mayor and paraded on the corpses of the dead first responders he killed as he basked in the hero worship after 9/11.

Giuliani wiped his ass with the constitution and now he might be in a position to do it nationally. We should be concerned.
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>>31968878
Minnesota is actually a fantastic place, minus the cucks in Minneapolis.
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>>31966460
Because that's the only reason people buy and or want to carry guns. Cuck...
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>>31968788
This is fucking key. Even though I'm in a good gun state it's scary to think that the only think protecting us from becoming a shit state is legislative whim. Not the 2nd amendment, not until we get some better precedence.
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>>31968886
>Better a cuck than a brain-dead paint huffing nazi.
No. Not really.
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>>31968909
Yes, that's because they're all from Scandinavian countries. My wife is an Ole. I'm >>31968878
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>>31968907
Here's your citation;
Waldman, I. D., Weinberg, R. A., & Scarr, S. (1994). Racial-group differences in IQ in the Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study: A reply to Levin and Lynn. Intelligence, 19, 29-44.

It's behind a paywall I think, but if you have a university login you should be able to find it for free.

>>31968933
At this point you've overused the term cuck to the point it means anyone who disagrees with you. Same with SJWs and bigot. You are to a fucking T the same thing as social justice. Identity politics collectivists.
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>>31968954
Your individualist utopia never existed, cuuuck.
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>>31968225
People like you give me hope for pur cause.
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>>31968967
I'm not the utopian here, faggot. My individualist philosophy accurately represents reality. Your position is built on a core logical fallacy.
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>>31966470
you absolute specialist
>inb4 bait
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>>31967481
soon
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>>31968162
>Wasn't it said that the machine gun murder rate was primarily held by police forces? As in, civilians that owned transferable MGs haven't killed anyone?
There have been an extremely tiny number where they have killed people, but I think all were legal self-defense shoots.
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>>31968995
>*tips fedora*
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>>31968368
>the-the, they gays are evul guise
>people having different opinions and ways of life in a country founded on living your own way, is some how bad.
Neck yourself you trap-loving hypocrite.
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>>31969064
>I have no argument, the post

Sucks to suck.
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>>31968405
This.
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>>31969069
>founded on living your own way
I don't think they intended open faggotry
>>31969076
>I deny the utility of identity politics because muh philosophy
enjoy losing without effective rhetoric
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>>31969125
Your rhetoric is self-defeating. It's a lie. You're more concerned with getting your way than being right, so you think the ends justify the means. You are literally an SJW by another name.
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>>31968979

I'm 28. Most of the people who are in the streets right now and spreading the #notmypresident hasthtag and having social media meltdowns are in their late teens/early 20's. Baby's First Election Syndrome has hit particuarly hard this year but It will die down when the grown ups get the conversation back.
>>
Also
>>31968995
>Your position is built on a core logical fallacy.
Aren't you the one who said
>Not him, but you're a fucking idiot. Just because you oppose one extreme does not mean you support the other.

Furthermore
>>31968954
>At this point you've overused the term cuck
... but then you say
>brain-dead paint huffing nazi.
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>>31968543
This.
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>>31969166
>so you think the ends justify the means.
Might doesn't make right, but it does make results. Of course, it's best to have both. Keep attacking that strawman, you'll get him eventually.
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>>31969182
>Aren't you the one who said
>>Not him, but you're a fucking idiot. Just because you oppose one extreme does not mean you support the other.
And? Fail to see how that's relevant.

>... but then you say
>brain-dead paint huffing nazi.
In response to an empty insult from you. I can't make an argument if there's nothing there to respond to.

>>31969192
>Might doesn't make right, but it does make results.
That's not a justification for anything, and really just confirms what I've been saying about you.

>Keep attacking that strawman, you'll get him eventually.
Not a strawman, but good try. Maybe you could elucidate how you think I've misrepresented your position?
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>>31969218
>And? Fail to see how that's relevant.
You think I'm a collectivist because I'm not a fedora tipper like you.

>That's not a justification for anything
I didn't say it was.
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>>31966042

>Guns and magazine bans

I may be retarded, but I thought the state law, ex. my commiefornia laws that say I cant own an evil AR or more than 10rd mags, trumps federal law?
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>>31969034
Use that, then.
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>>31969234
>You think I'm a collectivist because I'm not a fedora tipper like you.
No, I think you're a collectivist because you treat people as groups instead of individuals. Racialism is collectivism, by definition.

>individualism is fedora tipping
This only reinforces my point that you're a collectivist who has nothing but empty insults instead of argument.
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>>31969218
>Maybe you could elucidate how you think I've misrepresented your position?
The best propaganda is geared to the lowest common denominator. That's what identity politics is. Effective rhetoric doesn't violate the NAP, if that's what you're complaining about. It's something we regrettably have to live with under a democracy.
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>>31966766
Not even 2 months ago, we had a murder/suicide in Lackland AFB. Personally owned firearm, I believe.
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>>31969270
>individualism is fedora tipping
But it is. People exist and function both within groups and as individuals. Race, culture, nationality... these things matter. So does private property, rule of law, etc.
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>>31969281
Then I haven't misinterpreted your position.

>>31969311
>People exist and function both within groups and as individuals.
True, but they are individuals first, and should be treated as individuals.

>Race, culture, nationality... these things matter
One of these things is not like the others.
Race and nationality are not deterministic. They are descriptive, not prescriptive. Culture is a bit different, but that's a set of ideas and beliefs, that's who people are, not what people are.
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>>31969281
>lowest common denominator
I just want to point out I don't mean this in a derogatory way. I mean it as literally the most obvious thing we all have in common. Now excuse me because this thread is bump locked and I'm going to go watch Red Dawn with my son. Peace.
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>>31968186
KEEP SHOOTIN PUTIN
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>>31969407
I'll reply to this but then I have to go. Chill, bro. On an inter-personal basis, yes, individuals should be judged according to character. But the world of politics is much bigger, so we have to use a more heuristic approach when formulating our rhetoric. People are not 100% rational creatures, btw. Base your institutions on reason, and persuade through rhetoric.
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>Race and nationality are not deterministic.
I didn't say they were.
>They are descriptive, not prescriptive.
I think the consensus is that heredity and environment are both factors.

>tfw you accidentally downloaded the 2012 version of Red Dawn
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Guys

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-big-beautiful-wall-fence-article-1.2867648

http://therightscoop.com/not-kidding-trump-already-backing-off-full-repeal-obamacare/

Donnie is already going back on two of his biggest promises.
Stealth panic buy before he goes against us and tries to take our guns.
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>>31969608
>I didn't say they were.
I might have you confused with the person ranting about niggers and white women. If so, I apologize.

>I think the consensus is that heredity and environment are both factors.
Aye, but that's the key, they're both factors, neither is independently deterministic, and they're not absolute in all cases.
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>>31968610

He needs to assign Sanders a position in his cabinet. No more, no less. It would instantly and completely annihilate any and all ideas people would have about his 'evil'.
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>>31969671
>Donnie is already going back on two of his biggest promises.
The first one wasn't the Donald, it was the Republicans in congress saying they want to discuss this with him.

As for the second one;
>Mr. Trump said he favors keeping the prohibition against insurers denying coverage because of patients’ existing conditions, and a provision that allows parents to provide years of additional coverage for children on their insurance policies.
This seems entirely reasonable, and has nothing to do with why people hate Obamacare.
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>>31969672
>ranting about niggers and white women
No, I hate both. :^)

What I meant about race not being deterministic is that even if you are a literal moron, you can still make good choices. It may be less likely but the opportunity is still there.
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>>31968186
keep shootin', putin
>>
Does this mean someone in NJ could get a Utah license and it would be valid under National Reciprocity, or would it force NJ to become shall issue? Fuck NJ, MD, NY legislators, cops and judges, they deserve to all get fired and ridiculed.
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>>31969125
>I dont think they intended upon faggotry
1st, 10th, and 14th Amendment (Substantive Due Process) clearly reflect that it doesn't matter. "Wahhh, Stop liking what I dont like" isn't an excuse to deprive people of their life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness, their faggotry in this case, without due process. And no, the 2000 year old fairy tales in your storybook don't count as accusations of criminal behavior. Freedom of Religion means Freedom FROM Religion.
>you cant have an effective argument without identity politics
You obviously suck trap dick at arguing.
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>>31969251
>State Law Trumps Federal Law
Its the opposite, actually. If it was how you thought it was, the cousin-fucker states (inb4 butthurt, just bantz dudes) would and could still have Jim Crow laws.
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>>31969759
Yeah, I think the only real changes to Obamacare are going to be about making it more efficient rather than throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Its good in concept, terrible in execution. There is a general consensus among the people that Insurance Companies are assraping consumers, and thus some form of government intervention is needed.
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