Holy shit why did we actually buy this piece of shit and not

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>>31955875
Oh please actually be Sparky, the greatest moron ever to have an opinion about armor.

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>>31955924

If I was in charge of all defense procurement the United States would be unstoppable in war. Our airborne bicycle infantry and light armor would blot out the sun.

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>>31955934
>filename
Damnit, not Sparky.

>>31955875
>not just mount a 90mm gun on the M113 Gavin?
Because the M113 is a tracked vehicle and thus doesn't fit too well into the motorised Stryker groups.

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>>31955947

Wheels are a buzzword used by the military industrial complex to justify this boondoggle. That thing would sink into the mud if you tried driving it off road. An M113 Gavin with a modern engine and rubber tracks would be just as fast on road.

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>>31955960
Wheeled vehicles have a greater operational range, are easier to maintain and no, the Stryker would not sink into mud if you tried taking it off road. Rasputitsa conditions happen twice a year where applicable and nobody would try driving a Stryker through a swamp.
Honestly should've just dumped the Stryker and bought the Patria. The Stryker's not even amphibious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d-GN20EaAQ

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>>31955969

>nobody would try driving a Stryker through a swamp.

That's because it would sink into the swamp. An M113 Gavin wouldn't and if modernized would be faster and more fuel efficient than the Stryker.

Also its nice that you omit the Gavin can easily be deployed via glider while the Stryker can't, easily negating any range advantage the Stryker has dozens of times over.

>>31955979
>An M113 Gavin wouldn't
It would.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpbQeSGBR10
>Also its nice that you omit the Gavin can easily be deployed via glider
Yes, because it has no notable strategical or operational advantages. Obviously being air-liftable is an advantage over the Stryker, even though it was meant to be deployable by air anywhere on the globe.

>easily negating any range advantage the Stryker has dozens of times over.
Except that once you've glided in, your glider is now useless. You'll have to drive where you want and need to go. If you want to re-glide, you'll need to take over an airfield and almost certainly perform repairs on it after sabotage and combat has made it unfit for cargo plane landings. You'll find it faster to simply drive towards your objective.
Gliding also would only work in flat and unforested enough terrain.

>>31955998

Nice fake video, how about I post some real ones from an actually reliable source.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YroI-GkeprY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlTWS7fmuqI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYT96YGAZMI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d_wnbLEJn4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iemMDs3AiRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCJMVmY0qJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYgVNI37iq0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrsIj_q6rWc

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Wheels are GOAT for operating in literally every environment in the middle east and africa

>Don't need to be replaced as often
>Can't be thrown because of shit getting in them, or by doing sikk driftz

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>>31956020

>sink into mud
>sink into sand
>sink into solid concrete

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>>31956008
Oh, is this why the Blacktail videos get >implied to hell whenever they're posted? Sorry but I'm, not going to watch all those.
The US should by far rather design a new platform instead of pining on the M113. Just sneakily plagiarise the Russians for their airborne vehicles, BMD, Nona mortars and such.
The M113 for one would need a higher angle to its frontal armor.

>fully airborne mechanized infantry
That's not what mechanized infantry is for though. Mechanised infantry exists to have the maximal amount of combat effectiveness and is used most effectively in focal points to push deep or counter enemy offensives. With high mobility, well armoured and armed vehicles, MBTs attached to the battalion, mobile SPGs and so forth, they're the most combat capable units in most militaries and sacrificing all this for the sake of airborne capabilities is NOT worth it.

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>>31956034

Blacktail is the most reliable source on the entire world wide web and he is a skilled defense analyst with decades of experience backing him up.

>>31956020
>Can't be thrown

I've seen an entire axle been thrown on one before.

The power of Fuck Off compels you!

>>31955934
A crew of six? Fucking why?

>>31955960
>>31955979
>>31956028
Metal Bawkses!

Apparently there are a bunch of bored anons if so many are giving a role player serious replies.

>>31955875
It looked good on paper.

Then we actually bought a couple.

>>31956659
I think it might just be that they don't know who Sparky is. I mean, yes, he's one of the greatest comedians of the last 100 years, but still the people who know him are surprisingly small.

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>>31955960
What if there was a tracked vehicle you could convert to being a wheeled vehicle?

EH? You can give me the nobel prize now or later.

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>>31957894

>what is Christie suspension

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Sparky plz go and stay go

Wheels are better at some things, tracks are better at others.

I saw another potential sparky once, forgot the website. Wanted to put steel roofs like a porch on tanks to protect them from top attack weapons and some other dumb shit

This is like the Sparky'est gavin-thread i've ever seen

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>>31955875
>Gavin
Fuckwit confirmed.

>>31955979
retard you can put tread on any wheeled vehicle but you can't put wheels on a tread.

>>31959405
There are wheel on a tracked vehicles.

meme

>>31960317
so how do you plan on steering this magical vehicle because tracked vehicles don't turn like cars, they pivotsteer.

lol nice thread

>>31955875
Produce a Gavin.......

The M113 Armored Personnel Carrier has no other name.

>>>/wsg/1388225

>>31955934
>Engine
>Wankel 3 Rotor
>Diesel
>6000rpm

Jesus Christ

>>31955875

Hey guys get a load of the new worst tripfag.

>>31963922
idiot

>>31963926

you forgot your trip friendo

>>31963933
>>31963922
fuck off new fag, you clearly don't know who sparky is

>>31955875

>Gavin

Stop trying to make fetch happen.

>>31963938

A raging faggot trapped in an era of hot, flat-sided, gas guzzling, slow deathboxes?

Who's sparky? I always hear about him but never know who he is.

>>31964259
A severely autistic ex-parachute rigger with an extremely unhealthy obsession with the M113.

>>31964259
Google Mike Sparks, and Combat Reform.

But... Be careful. Reading his webpages may result in aneurysms.