Why did some guns use stripper clips, when you could just use their magazines and change them instead of loading with clips? For example SMLE or ZH 29
They didn't trust soldiers to keep track of the mags and not lose them.
Ease of manufacture, I believe.
>>31947591
But a clip is smaller and easier to lose
>>31947600
And far cheaper than a mag.
Doctrine and mindset back then. The No4 was in development in the 20s and 30s, and the British establishment was very conservative.
Not only that but it would have required the magazines to be manufactured to closer tolerances than they were to allow interchangeability. A magazine was matched to a rifle and checked to insure good feeding, another may fit but not feed reliably enough. I guess it could have been a bottleneck in production, and they tried absolutely everything to make these rifles as cheaply and quickly as they could.
>>31947585
the SMLE wasnt issued with a bunch of mags and you werent meant to replace it to reload. besides mags were quite expensive to produce in the late 19th century and early 20th century and you had to make at least 10 times as many for any given gun, and then a lot of them break too so you have to replace them.
with an internal magazine you only have to pay that cost once per gun plus possible repairs and that far outweighed the advantage of fast reloads.
>>31947585
>magazines
>expensive
>clips
>cheap
And not only that, you would need to make something like 50 mags per gun as they would be lost, destroyed and would have to be constantly replaced over the life of the gun to keep every soldier with a full loadout.
>>31947585
Soldiers were typically not given spare magazines for that purpose (maybe one or two for emergencies).
>>31947600
Clips were regarded as disposable, magazines were not.
Why did nobody mention that clips are handy but not necessary as you can load one by one, but when using a mag weapon, you can't do much without the mag?
If the soldier lost his clips, he can still fight
>>31947766
This too.
>>31947585
The average soldier was not expected to be able to keep track of spare magazines so they devised a method of cheaply loading a firearm quickly. The same mentality also lead to magazine cutoffs in many countries so the soldiers wouldn't waste ammo.
The reason some early guns have detachable magazine is to make manufacture and maintenance easier.
>>31947797
>The same mentality also lead to magazine cutoffs in many countries so the soldiers wouldn't waste ammo.
Magazine cut offs came about because of the reality of supply trains. A unit out in the field may not have access to more ammo in the near future. This was before trucks and airplanes making that mostly a moot point. It wasn't as dumb as an idea as people think now.
>>31947766
>let's just gloss over the garand completely here
>>31947885
>>let's just gloss over the garand completely here
yeah, let's. let erase this piece of fudd shit from history altogether.
>>31947897
Watch the edge there lool