Why are we burgers so bad at light armor?

If we were good at everything then all the other Nations of Earth would be jealous.

completely fucked procurement system that doesn't let the army just go get something immediately at low cost.

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Same reason slavs cannot into APC's I reckon.

>>31932749
That is actually a pretty good light tank, it can fire rockets out of the barrel

>>31933671
>BMP
>APC
fuck outta here

THE SHERIDAN IS BASED AS FUCK.

To this day it can kill any MBT with its FUCKHUEG missiles, and to top it off its fucking AMPHIBIOUS.

Shut your mouth OP.

>>31932749
gives the other countries a chance to feel good about themselves

>>31932749
>Be American tanker
>Get dreaded light armor assignment
>Have to take a shit before being able to fit through hatch
>Not enough room in this fucking thing for my daily ration of 5 pork rib MRE's
>Suspension isn't robust enough to handle 2,000lb crew weight
Fuck this. Main battle tanks all the way.

>>31933994
It's incredibly unreliable, including the missile.

>>31933994
Not to mention air droppable

73rd cav fag here.
Used to be 73rd armor before our sheridans got taken away

>>31934227
except we saw in panama that half of them are destroyed upon air dropping

>>31933994
>To this day it can kill any MBT with its FUCKHUEG missiles

The missiles were so bad that they were never even issued to combat units.

There's still half a million of them sitting in a warehouse somewhere, doing absolutely nothing.

>>31932749
what's wrong with a small fast SU-152 with a turret?

>>31934180
>trying too hard/10

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>>31932749
Sup nerds :^)

>>31932749
Isn't Bradley light armor? It's doing quite alright.

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>>31934180
The hardest part was designing hatches that could be used by large men on mobility scooters.

>>31933994
>AMPHIBIOUS.
>>31934227
>air droppable
Two markers for a shit vehicle. You can't cut mass without consequences.

>>31934805
agree, honestly the PIVDAS probably killed more people in Panama.

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>>31932749

We aren't: we designed what was arguably the best light tank of its era.

>>31933994
Based MGM-151C Shillelagh

Combustible cased ammunition before 120mm made it cool.

>>31934498
What the fuck are you going to do with a anti-tank missile when you are fighting charlie, dumbass.

>>31933671
The BMP series is objectively the best IFV.

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>>31932749

>implying Americans don't make the best light tanks.

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>>31936267
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>>31936285

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>>31936017
Did someone say Shillelagh!

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>>31936309
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>>31936321

>he doesn't have a 76mm autocannon

>>31936267
>Based rapid fire 76mm with full erection capabilities!
> sweet stinger missle upgrade!
>air transportable

Why was America denied the Mauler?

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Forgot best pic of all!

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No helicopter or cas aircraft is safe!

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>>31936362

I've never seen that turret before.

>>31936332
>full erection capabilities

Well, i am anon...

>>31936151
The NVA had plenty of armor, anon. And besides, the Shillelagh was even rejected when the last of the Sheridans were deployed in Iraq. "Nearly half a dozen" missiles were fired at bunkers, to little effect.

>>31932878
they already are

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As I understand it, firing the Sheridan's gun would knock the guidance system for the missile out of alignment, making it useless.

With any luck, pic related, or something similar, will be put into service so our airborne troops have some sort of organic armor support.

>>31937787
We're really not

>>31937877
>>31937883
>return of light tanks
my body is ready

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Our light tanks are unmanned, or will be by next year

>>31937965
>turret mounted terrain mappers
so it can only drive forward when the turret is pointed forward?

How about some portholes along the side?

>>31936233
If it's so good why does every country that uses it have the people it's supposed to carry and protect sit on its roof because they don't fit inside in normal combat dress?

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>>31938038
I thought they did that because it's a fucking deathtrap

>>31934498
Wishing a nigga would

>>31933644
Not true. Look how Lockheed Martin cucked Patria and took all the AMV goodies.

Now This is how you do proper industrial spying. Hats off.

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>>31937965
Beep boop mother fucker.

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>>31932749
better question
why are burger so bad at airdroppable vehicle?

>>31939190

It must be easy to airdrop a vehicle that cant make it over a curb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ9Zy4gvshQ

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>>31939210
Anon please
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-YsSL65quM

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>>31939210
stop posting silly meme

>>31938038
because it's an IFV not an APC you retard

same reason why troops aren't really carried in Brads or LAV-25s

>>31939232
Anon please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj4R7w9-E40

>>31939236

Im sorry the reality of the tigr does not meet what you saw on a propaganda show.

>>31939268
>same reason why troops aren't really carried in Brads or LAV-25s

WHAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

BUDDY.

Better inform the DOD they have been doing it wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKETHU6r1pA

>>31939232
Nothing would survive that fall.

>>31939285
spoiler: they're rarely used for troop transport

and they're still IFVs

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>>31939275
>Ukrop being the failure state they are
try harder, fag

Those French 105 cars were great at fire support in mountains that MBTs could never reach

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>>31939268
>this whole post

>>31939316
Spoiler: the LAV-25 was used for troop transport all the time, the Stryker (a LAV derivative) has entire combat teams built around its mobility, and dismounts were used from brads for the last decade.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a06_1178071620

>>31939322

>UKROP
>TIGR

lel

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This, in all its incarnations

>>31939352
you was posting a Ukrop BMD-2 video.

i guess you just google it and don't even bother to read the video name

>>31939341
The LAV-25 is a reconnaissance vehicle that can't even fit a full squad inside

The main variant of a Styrker is mostly an infantry carrier and lacks anything more than a 50 cal

As for the video, you see all those guys walking around, 80% are humvee dismounts and didn't ride a brad into there

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>>31939445
>As for the video, you see all those guys walking around, 80% are Humvee dismounts and didn't ride a brad into there

Man, i guess the DOD made invisible Humvees.

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>>31939541
More invisible humvees.

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>>31939551

Invisible humvee center of frame, behind all the ebin effects.

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>>31939562

Commander pointing at invisible humvee.

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>>31939575

Live fire training.

Note: invisible Humvee's may or may not be parked in front of the fireing line. Its hard to tell.

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>>31939582

PLEASE ***IGNORE**** THE GUY DISMOUNTING.

He was actually transported by humvee.

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>>31939600

Upgraded M2A3 in iraq. Invisible Humvee in frame remains unupgraded.

>>31933671

What about that notorious Lunchbox APC that America used in the cold war?

Heard it was pretty bad and not entirely bulletproof

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>>31939613

Please note that this picture is NOT A BRADLEY, this solider is currently dismounting a humvee.

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>>31939637

Again, another picture, another dismount from a humvee.

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>>31939648

no NO NO!

THE DOD IS DOING IT WRONG, DAMMIT!

>>31934781
The Bradley is like the F-35. Yeah we have something good now, but holy shit the development was a clusterfuck.

>>31937783
Inserting your false narrative into historical fact.

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kawaii

>>31938038
>people it's supposed to carry and protect sit on its roof
Because there is literally no chance to survive if a BMP gets blown up by something. It has fuel in the back doors ffs.

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>>31939541

Categorically BTFO. I dont think a asshurt reply is even possible anymore, but hope springs eternal.

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>>31939541
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>>31939766
What false narrative?

>>31938591
no it's noisy smelly and cramped inside so unless someone shoots at the crew they like to be on top of it.

whats the grunt capacity of a stryker with cannon?

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>>31940700
M1128 MGS? Zero, because there's a fucking huge autoloader in what used to be the crew compartment.

>>31940726
so in short, US military doesnt have an ifv that can carry a squad

>>31940766
Which is why there are upgrade programs across the board. They just got out of fifteen years of insurgency where the entire development focus was on MRAPs, they're only just looking back in to conventional warfare.

>>31936295

>the tank that never was

>>31939629

>one of the most ubiquitous APCs ever produced
>relatively easy to maintain
>affordable
>dozens of variants
>still in use after a half-century of service
>infantry can comfortably sit in the back

Don't talk shit about the M113

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>>31939390
Kraut tanks - best tanks, well sexiest at least

Coz light armour is too light to carry your fat asses around

>>31940726
i think i could snuggle in there and be happy.

>>31936267
i bet thisthing has an unbeliveable muzzle velocity

>>31938559
this thing is the tank equivalent of a pug dog

>>31941032
and this not?>>31937965

>>31932749
>Sheridan
>bad

>>31940766
Stryker with 30mm.

>>31939165
oh my look at it's little eyes moving

howcute

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>>31939629
It did just fine.

>>31932749
>we burgers
>we
What do you mean yuropoor?

>>31941607
You're joking, right?
It was a terrible tank completely unsuited for the conflict it got into.

>>31941965
Some units that took into considerations it's pros and cons had a lot of success with them.

>>31932749
Because our air, naval, and ground forces are so good?

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>>31939268
>same reason why troops aren't really carried in Brads or LAV-25s
How does it feel to be this wrong?

>>31941913
It was a decent APC

It was however far worse than the BMP-1

>>31942068
>Some units that took into considerations it's pros and cons had a lot of success with them.
[citation required]

If I recall correctly, its only successes involved being a fire support bitch* for the infantry. But I'm open to being proven wrong.

To offer an analogy: saying that a tank was successful because it did OK as an assault gun, is like saying WW2 battleships were successful because they shelled beaches and added some AA firepower to fleets. In both cases, big investments ended up filling out secondary roles and thus never achieved their theoretical potential in their respective primary roles, the primary roles that justified the cost to begin with.

>>31941629
thats the one they've just recently got right?

>>31939322
I thought nobody used the retro rocket parachutes anymore.

>>31944903
Not many people airdrop IFVs either.

>>31944903
Only the VDV really need them.

>>31932749
That looks like an upgraded british cruiser tank from WW2.

>>31939445
>Anything more than a .50

The 30mm Stryker is officially in the Army inventory now.