/akg/ AK General

>>31930770
That's the fleckiest plum I've ever seen

I've resigned myself to get an AK-74 down the road, after being continuously haunted by the ghost of Kalashnikov. What are some things I should look out for, other than to not purchase from the "do not buy" list in that one buyer's guide.

And is there a particular company/type I should keep my eye on for when it comes to -74s?

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>>31930770
That is the most beautiful plum mag I've ever seen

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>>31930770
You win

>>31930770
Is a glass-filled bake still lighter than steel?

Also, on an unrelated note, I got some bakes without steel feed lip reinforcement (sight unseen, I took a gamble). Are the feed lips still decently durable, poor should I not store them loaded?

>>31930897
*or
Not poor

>>31930897
Yes of course it is

The bakelite mags (I assume you're talking about 7.62) without steel feed lips are older. I would get some of the newer ones with steel feed lips if you're going to leave them loaded.

>>31930883
>muh dick

Where can I find slick 556 mags? I see people post them, but they never respond when I ask them where to get them

>>31930949
Thanks for the insight.

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Anyone try one of the rpk adjustable sights? Im just worried that it would be too long to fit the standard rsb

I have a parkerized finish Polish AKM.

What is the process if I wanted to go with the more traditional black painted finish? Is there a specific paint that the manufactures use?

>>31931118
Moly resin

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>>31930770
>tfw none of your bakes are glass filled and none of your plums are flecks

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>>31930770

based early-mold, heavy fleck, faux-tula izzy coming through

>>31930897
>Are the feed lips still decently durable,
yes.

>should I not store them loaded?
you should not store them loaded.

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>>31930770
SLR104-31, from KVar, worth? Or am I a fool for wanting to spend $1k on an AK?

>>31931223
Do it

>>31931223
Parts kit w/barrel
Riveting jig
Press
Receiver
That will cost you less than buying one

>>31931339
You'll come out damn near $1000 with a rifle that has no resale value, no manufacturer support or warranty, and isn't a factory built Bulgarian AK-74 with a cold hammer forged barrel. Why?

>>31931368
Because for that much your better off getting a ar or fal

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>>31931167
Thanks!

>>31931223
I just bought one last week, will be in Wednesday. With SGL's fetching double that and $600 ones being a shot in the dark in regards to quality, why not?

>>31931494
He doesn't want an AR or FAL tho

>>31931368
>cold hammer forged barrel
the only reason those are popular is because they're quicker easier to manufacture en masse. Everything else is bullshit. You're buying it for bullshit.

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>>31931523
You could always get all of them too

>>31931223
Check used market, always a chance you could turn up a gem

>literally got mine for 1970s level prices

>>31931564
Large military factories use CHF machines because of their ability to manufacture barrels quickly. They used chrome lining for corrosion resistance against the corrosive ammo. The longevity of a CHF-CL barrel is an emergent property.

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I got a WASR in May and just today got around to taking it to the range today. The rifle was cleaned and lubed (white lithium grease) and put away, except for my itch to camouflage the stock and put a Tapco RPK flash suppressor clone on it--the short five slot birdcage. Oh, and an ALG AKT trigger, which is bretty nice.

Tried a random milsurp Warsaw Pact 30 round steel mag sold to me in a sealed plastic bag and a 30 round Magpul. Tried "Red Army Standard" 122gr FMJ and HP, 154gr Tula softnoses, and one box of twenty rounds of Prvi hardball, totalling 140 rounds.

I was pleasantly surprised by how close the iron sights were to dead on zero from the box.

This is how I check zero on a 7.62x39mm AK or SKS, by the way. I check the 500m rear sight setting at 7 yards, the 300m at 15, and the 200m at 25, in that order. At each point after the initial adjustments it should be at least close, and mine was very very close out of the box. This surprised me because the last SKS I bought shot way out past Fort Mudge somewhere out of the box and took quite a bit of fussing and adjustment of the sights to finally get to shoot centered.

Observations:

The ALG AKT trigger is NICE. It's not as nice as a good two-stage AR trigger. It's got a lot of travel, a lot of takeup, and a long reset compared to AR triggers, though short compared to most AK triggers, even Tapco triggers. It was also glassy smooth, with a very crisp break.

The Tapco five-slot flash hider works very nicely. I could see no flash or sparks at all from behind the rifle, nor did it light up the range. I asked some other shooters there and they said it seemed to be generating a barely visible golf-ball sized orange dimly glowing patch a few inches in front of the muzzle, roughly the same or maybe less than an AR with A2 flash suppressor (though we all know ammunition flash signature is highly powder-dependent and therefore can change completely when you open a new box of ammo from a different production lot).

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>>31931608
continued

The gun runs like a raped ape. I had no malfunctions of any kind in 140 rounds total. Ejected cases, whether brass or steel, had a very small ding at the mouth, and if I were inclined to reload I'm sure dies would iron that out with no problems.

140 rounds in half an hour got the gun a lot hotter a lot faster than I thought it would. Melted cosmolene was sweating out of the front sight base around the pins at the bottom and smoke was starting to come out from under the handguards, which had had silver spray pant applied to their interiors in an attempt to help them reflect heat a bit and reduce the amount of heat transmitted to the user's hand.

The gun felt a little rough cycling by hand before the range trip but 140 rounds seems to have smoothed it up nicely.

Oh, and to my pleased surprise, the Tula 154gr softnoses with the big round buttons of exposed lead at the point of every bullet fed slick as glass and did not hang up on the way into the chamber, as I've heard they occasionally do in some AKs.

I'm pleased with my purchase.

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>>31931608
>>31931645
Right on man.

>>31931494

>or fal

For what you're spending on a fal, you're better off either building an AR10 or buying a SCAR. At least you'll own something worth shooting .308 out of.

>>31931850
fal is life desu

looks like sam is raising the prices on ammo already

>>31931958

Wow, no kidding. Silver bear went up a dollar a box and the WPA stuff is just gone.

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Anybody know what this may mean. Got some more plums and they had this carved into them

>>31932066
It says "There once was a man from Nantucket..."

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>>31932066
It is says
Altai (Region in Russia)
DMB (Demobilization, from his required 2 year service)
2004 - year of draftee who left the note, demobilization

>>31931223
I own a 104fr and I literally just got home from a trade where I received a 104ur. They're good rifles

>>31931048

They fit (assuming you have a 1000m rear sight block)

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>>31932066
basically all drafted recruits dream of the ДMБ (DMB) (demobilization) so they scribble those letters and the year when they are done with service on anything they can. Such as mags, guns, eating utensils, mess kits, load bearing vests, entrenching tools, bayonets, trees, restroom walls, bus stops, train compartments, themselves, you name it.

I've seen hundreds of mags that had various years scratched on them. Looks like your mag came from Russia (vs Ukraine, where post mags we buy in USA come from), since the soldier was either from Altai region or served in Altai region.

Pretty standard yet interesting trench art.

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>where my 5.56 friends at?
Guys I have anxiety about the election tomorrow. I should have went to church yesterday.

>>31932257
Just do what needs to be done. Get to the polling place as early as possible and vote Trump. From there, we wait for him to be voted as the POTUS

>>31932257
>I should have went to church yesterday.
You can pray from your heart wherever you are.

>>31932257
Hey at least 5.56 is readily available, im basically limited to internet and cabelas for 5.45

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>>31932381
all 5.45 owners will be praying tomorrow night.

If Hillary wins, there is a good chance of new wave of sanction against Russia for its shenanigans in Syria and Ukraine.

Russian ammo imports get banned, just like Izhmash stuff being sanctioned, and you and everyone else can kiss that steel 5.45 goodbye.

feels bad, man.

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>>31932293
I'm going to do that tonight, anon.

>>31932279
I already voted early a week ago at my local polling place, and I went online and confirmed my ballot was submitted. I didn't want to take a chance of something happening with work keeping me from going on the 8th.

>>31932381
God willing if we're in good standing with Russia next year I'll add a 5.45 to my collection, I have two 5.56 ak's and my WASR-10. I have about 25 5.56 AK mags now so I should be OK in case Arizona turns into California anytime soon. Well, minus this one, fucking smoke mags, I regret getting them.

>>31932427
Isnt wolf or red army standard made in turkey or some other place than russia?

Ill pay a little but extra for silverbear

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What is a fair price to offer for a Bulgarian 74 matching parts kit with original barrel?

Also I'm scared for the future of 5.45 ammo and mag availability guys :o

What's market price for a 5.45 saiga these days? I have two brand new in-box that came with the pistol grip and bullet guild conversion. Have it posted for 1,000$

>>31932257
>Guys I have anxiety about the election tomorrow.

Me too. I happen to live in an area that had a BLM riot back in September less than two miles from here, close to a big block of "low-income housing" full of "diverse urban yoots." (yeah, I would be long gone if I hadn't gotten laid off in June)

If I had any wit I wouldn't be hanging around here. I am not willing to spend a big chunk of my unemployment on a weeklong motel stay in some quiet little tourist town and risking coming back and finding nothing but ashes. I have no illusions that the local cops will have either the ability or the inclination to do anything but the same thing they did during the September riots--stand on the sidelines with their fingers up their assholes, and then clean up the wreckage and maybe write some tickets when it's over.

So I'm hoping there will be no riots tomorrow and hoping I wont be fighting for my life tomorrow night. God help me. God help us all. I never asked for this.

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>>31932499
>74, plum
>Maadi crutch folder
>FAL

stop, my dick can only take so much.

>>31931030
Poland. polish Beryl magazines. xxFENCExx on akfiles has an ad up in the marketplace. Not commercially available at any distributor.

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>>31932558
Get erect my boi

>>31932548
Where in St. Louis are you?

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>>31932566
This. He usually always can get them. They run about $35 each shipped

>>31932570
>hnnnnnnggg

>>31932499

They're 3-400 with no barrel. That's the bet I can help. Good luck sir.

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>>31932603
Actually I'm close by a different Midwestern city, not that you can tell the difference by the scenery or the architecture.

You've been in one "diverse" city, you've been to them all. They all look like Hiroshima with graffiti, from sea to shining sea.

>>31932629
>tactical black rifle
>tactical black cat
noice

>>31932427

She won't need sanctions, she'll ban ALL imported ammo by EO. I'm sure if congress tries to check her there's some international commerce clause built into something passed a decade or more ago that will be stretched to allow it. Say goodbye to whatever surplus is left, as well as ZQI, PPU, and all flavors of cheap NATO calibers. Hope you like paying at least $1/rd on everything, because even 5.56 prices are going to SKYROCKET when she yanks the contract strings to force domestic manufacturers to limit non-mil sales.

Then you get to look forward to the strictly punitive ammo tax (sin tax) and yearly round count limits, because you gun owners are clearly responsible for every single mass shooting AND IF IT SAVES EVEN ONE LIFE.

>>31932548
Quit being a useless leech on society and pick yourself up by the bootstraps

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>>31932666
They're both dirty as fuck at the moment too. Nice metal trips.

>>31932727
Congress won't try to check her. They'll grumble, shuffle their feet, and bend over backwards to give her everything she wants, because if they don't, Cokie Roberts will call them "sexist." And Cokie Roberts will call them "sexist" anyway.

Just like the last eight years, in other words. The GOPe leadership in Congress will always have an excuse ready for why they can't really do anything and can't really stop her from doing whatever the fuck she wants whenever she wants, wherever she wants, in spite of having control of both houses of Congress, but if we keep voting the Dead Elephant Party and keep sending in contributions, they'll do much better next time.

>>31932861
Republitards will filibuster and block any anti-gun legislation not proposed by them (eg no fly no buy). It's literally the only thing they're good for.

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>>31932727
STOP!!! PLEASE!!!

...so, if any of the guys who is importing Combloc AK mags and suchlike things is still hanging around, I'm just curious about non-mag things.

How about bayonets? Entrenching tools? What other stuff are your contacts able to get and export to the US?

>>31933250
I'm trying to push mine to send a 6X9-1 bayonet, he said he'd consider it after the stuff we have right now is finally delivered, I know other people get small gun parts too

>>31932727
I will literally unironically kill myself if this happens

>>31933103
If Republicans filibuster, the Dems will just invoke cloture and force a vote.

>>31933327
Not likely. House still requires 2/3 vote to cloture, Senate requires 3/5. There are a lot of Democrats who remember what happened after 1994.

>>31932570
Chinese AKs are sexy

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>>31933443

I'm getting a little panicked about 5.45 supply, working every weekend I can

>>31933287
There are better things to off yourself over anon

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just got a welding job and wont get paid until next friday. with the election and californias awesome new laws might barely be able to get a wasr this month and get something else in dec. cutting it close boys, fucking nervous as fuck.

>>31933388
What did happen? I was 5

>>31933465
Ive been buying all the 5.45 i can find locally, since 7n6 been banned ive been relying in my ar

AIMS 74 kit to arrive tomorrow. Feels good

>>31930883
Let me get that pls

>>31933552
So what is hapoening in cali that bans everything? Fellow NY fag here and we just find ways around the laws like building ar's and converting saigas(well use to). Everyone mails parts right to your door and its easy finding dealers to xfer receivers to you.

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>>31930770
Out of curiosity, what are the little flecks in plum mags and furniture?

>>31933565
AWB. Dems admitted that by passing it, they gave up control of Congress for years.

>>31932558
Is that a c39v2?

>>31933658
our bullet button guns become "assault weapons" either have to go featureless or register them as "assault weapons"
though i heard another anon say that atlantic firearms unscrewed his pistol grip because he asked. we'll find ways around it but its gonna suck having to kydex everything just to take them outside

I don't think Trump has a chance, but if he wins I'll be happy.

The return of Saigas and surplus would be the tits.

>>31932570
Best one in the selection is vz58. best ejection port and ez to mod for ar/ak mags. Cons, it gets hot quick.

>>31930867
7nTZJYU9VqA

>>31933565
so-called "assault weapons ban." The NRA turned out to vote that November and spanked the Democrats really, really badly. Their asses were red for twenty years.

Now they've forgotten their lesson, with Hitlery up on stages from coast to coast saying she wants to ban handguns, wants to ban possession of firearms by civilians, wants a $100/round tax on ammo to pay for "gun violence," and on, and on. they've forgotten the 1994 lesson and they think their balls are big again. we'll see tomorrow.

either way, this country is going to be going through some "interesting times" in the next few years. if Trump wins he's not going to be able to drain the swamp but he might be able to delay the inevitable for a bit. if Hitlery wins she's going to try to suspend the Constitution just as much as the Supreme Court will let her (and she's going to have multiple judges to nominate), rule as a dictator, even more so than Obama already, and people just might start voting from the rooftops if she's as bad as she's promised to be.

that's the thing about declaring that the laws no longer apply. if the powers that be say the Constitution no longer applies, and the laws no longer apply, you can hardly blame people for saying "Cool! let's start with the rule that said we had to do what you say."

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>>31933769
Featureless is the way to go and get around the new assault weapons definitions here in California. Grip wrap all the things, change out your flash hider (which I don't use anyway) if you have one for a muzzle nut or brake, and rock on.

Pic related, my once proud Tantal, still legal, still functional. I'm not registering shit, or permanently affixing mags just to use a pistol grip.

>>31933783
>ez to mod for ar/ak mags

I don't think that's true.

>>31933677
little bits of fiberglass, I think
its purpose is to reinforce the polymer

>>31933677
Some people will say they are glass flecks but that doesn't make sense intuitively to me, I mean if they were going to add glass flecks, why would they do it in such a low quantity that's it rare to even find them? On things like Tula magazines or some earlier Izzy magazines, or Tula plum pistol grips, yeah I think those are glass flecks, but in the case of the plum handguards, it doesn't make sense that they would only throw in a sprinkling of glass flecks which wouldn't have any effect on the strength of the polyamide at all. I think it's a defect, clumped up shit that didn't mix right.

>>31933851
Where can I find the grip wrap?

>>31933783
pls tell me about the vz58's ejection pattern.

does it eject straight up? I see side-mount optics rails for it.

What is the best 7.62x39 for HD to minimize overpen?

>>31933885
>vz
straight up toward space, towards victory

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>>31933884
Fingrips.com, one of the guys on calguns makes them. If you have anything special, send him the grip and he will custom fit it. Good guy to deal with.

>>31932541
I seen $750 at a local show

>every told me 5.45 was fine and I was wrong to worry about it with overwhelming force when I said I was worried about availability
>everyone is now panicking about 5.45

>>31933769
>>31933851
Thats exactly what NY has, semi auto with detachable mag and one"evil" feature is a assault weapon.

Evil features are:
Flash hider and muzzle break
Folding or collapsable stock
Pg
Thumbhole stock
Bayo or grenade launcher lug
Threaded barrel(even if its bare threads)

Only way to get around is fix mags

Also any mag over 10rds are banned no matter if there pre or post ban

>>31933959
So how do you hold that?

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>>31933713
Arsenal SLR-106 and a WASR-10

>>31934003
im not worried about availability, just want to get in as much as I can now as a hedge against import restrictions. I'm just as concerned with 5.56 prices

>>31934090
wit ur hand desu

>>31934204
But I thought people with those on their rifles already have their hands full of black cock?

>>31934095
Are you sure its not a c39v2 ?

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>>31934285
I've shot about 2500 rounds through it and it's still here so there's that, but then again I'm not sure.

>>31933932
Good HD rounds have been created but none is currently in production and none is currently available.

1990s Ulyanovsk 8M3 or 8HP "Effect" hollowpoints, now out of production
2011-12 production Hornady "Critical Defense" with the 123gr VMAX bullet, now out of production

There are no good choices in current production.

The least bad choice in current production is the 123-125gr brass cased commercial softnose hunting ammunition available from Remington/Federal/Winchester/etc. The least costly iteration of ammo like this is going to be either Prvi Partizan or Seller & Beillot, for those who want to "buy it cheap and stack it deep."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZD3kIeGaUs

That's a 14" jell-o block plus a 6" thick gallon jug of water, totaling probably approximately the equivalent of 18" of calibrated 10% ballistic gelatin. That's a lot more than optimum.

Remember too that the 7.62x39mm is about as powerful as .30/30 Winchester, and with decent expanding bullets will do pretty much the same thing in soft tissue. Just about all the expanding bullets out there are designed for hunting whitetail deer/mule deer/black bear/feral hogs/other tough, stubborn animals up to 150kg or so. They penetrate a LOT more than would be optimum in HD. But just about anything else will penetrate even more, maybe a lot more. The current Hornady 7.62x39mm 123gr "SST" round penetrates so much ballistic gelatin that it might as well be FMJ, from a home defense perspective--it's an awesome hunting bullet, it's accurate, it's great for those who want to hunt black bear with one of those little Czech bolt action carbines--but an HD round it ain't.

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>>31934247
That's only a personal preference anon. I personally don't feel bestiality is a good thing, so I've never had a handful of black cock on principle.

The way you hold a grip wrap is to leave your thumb above your other fingers, rather than wrapping it around. it takes some getting used to, but it's not terribly bad once you get the muscle memory down.

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>>31934332
I'm not sure, but it looks like you stole my cat...

>>31934435
Hows that hipoint ?

Are AKs ever going to be cheap again?

>>31934553
After Syria, etc calm down again and people stop panic buying, prices will go back down a good amount. Supply is low and demand is high right now.

>>31934637
The stupid thing is, supply is still there for the most part, but the stockpiles are asking massive amounts even if they aren't really selling.

>>31934003
I'm legit starting to worry about 5.45 more than anything else. I'm at 1080 rounds, but I'm worried that's not enough. Every other caliber I can pay inflated prices for domestic production, but 5.45 without Russian components (i.e., cases) is pretty much a dead caliber.

>>31934779
I'd imagine domestic production would fill the void, at .60-80 cents a round.

I have 5000 or so and not that comfy

>>31934405
Oh. One other thing.

Some people have gotten good results with the 154gr softpoint ammo from Tula, in terms of ballistic gelatin testing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UWA2-ZvXFI

But not everyone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOHrY9KiR2A ("Herter's" was the name printed on the boxes when Russian steelcase ammo was imported by the "Cabela's" outdoor chain a few years back, and the ammo was from Tula)

Note the significant velocity difference between the two tests, over 100 f.p.s. In the test showing the higher velocity, we saw the bullet expand the way a softpoint bullet is supposed to. In the test with the lower velocity, we see no expansion or deformation at all.

The second video also shows an examination of the bullet construction. The core appears to be dead-soft pure lead but the steel jacket is massively thick and heavy, with just a few shallow grooves or cuts on the interior of the jacket at the point to encourage expansion. It's also not obvious whether there were other differences. Do different production runs of this bullet have different jacket thicknesses, that could also contribute to the differing behavior in ballistic gelatin?

Anyway, what I come away with here is that there is not a lot of consistency here, and that you don't know what you're going to see in terms of bullet performance when you open that box, even if you've seen videos on Youtube where someone tested the ammo and the bullet expanded.

Do 5.56 AKs run steel case or brass better? How is it compared to an AR running steel?

>>31934941
I haven't tried it. I've heard people at ARFCOM say that 5.56mm AKs do not run steel case 5.56mm ammo very well at all, though. Something to do with the case having less taper and greater force being required for extraction, something like that, and the steel being somewhat less elastic than brass.

>>31934987
Horseshit. only cheap mags cause those sort of feeding problems due to poor feeding lip design/geometry. With proper OEM Bulgarian, Polish, or Russian mags they will work brass or steel all day long.

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i was really hoping to add more to the collection before the election but funds have been too scarce unfortunately.

>>31934875
I really hope it doesn't get that bad. I don't shoot my AK that much; I shoot about 2400 rounds of 9mm yearly and that's my most used caliber. Still, .308 prices for 5.45 is far below ideal considering it'll all still be steel cased stuff since I assume that's the only part of the cartridge that'll still be importable and I don't see domestic brass production for such an obscure round ever starting.

>>31935199
Not feeding problems. Extraction problems were what was described.

What if the rifle you have is a Romanian WASR that has been dressed up to resemble an East German StG943? The mag well on mine only accepts East German "Wieger" mags and plastic Pro-Mags. Bulgarian polymer mags do not fit in the mag well unless a great deal of material is filed off on each side near the front. The mag well has a step down at the front to hold the sides of an East German mag very tightly all the way to the front of the mag well, and that step down keeps other mags from fitting without adjustment.

I recently got a 5.56mm AK magazine that the seller claimed was East German but I think it may be a Romanian copy, as the pattern of folds and ridges on the sides of the mag tube was similar but not identical, and this magazine, likewise, had to be filed down a great deal on each side toward the front before it would fit in the mag well.

I haven't tried any other 5.56mm AK mags.

>>31930770
calicuck over here looking to get an AK before the stupid January 1st laws get put in place

Can I build my own AK legally in california?
If so how?

I would prefer to buy a pre-built one but looks like they are all out of stock

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/11/07/red-oktober-2016-circle-10-ak-compensators/

>>31935708
Blatant SRVV jet brake copy?

Let's say i can only get mags that don't have any reinforcements but i can get them dirt cheap.
How fucked am i?

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>>31932566
>>31932629
Thanks guys.

My contribution:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lMDy5gcQcbg

How do i get akfiles to approve my account? It's been 2 weeks and I've emailed them twice. I followed the registration rules and they didn't delete it but they haven't activated either. 2 weeks. What's their problem?

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>>31936011
They know you're gay

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>>31935973
What's your mag count?

>>31936121
What scope is that on the right?

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>>31936114
>1's, 5's, a few 20's
Bro you scrounging up gas funds? I like that optic though

>>31936130
Just money from a jar on my mantle and also happens to be your average slav's monthly income, dolla dolla bill yall

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>>31936128
Vortex Viper pst 1-6x

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I've had my eyes on a VEPR in 7.62x39 for a long time now. But I'm not entirely sure if it's worth the $7-800 I might end up paying for it. Are they gud?

Does barrel length really matter? I was thinking 20'' but I'm not going to be doing anything crazy with it.

>>31935736
To be entirely fair, there are a whole lot of companies that have been making cylindrical muzzle brakes with great big circular holes in the sides for quite a while now. When you start with round stock and make the holes by drilling you're gonna get certain similarities in appearance.

Just saying. I'm all for innovation and want to give them the benefit of the doubt... then again something really innovative might not look so similar.

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>>31936121
8, you?

2 clear circle 10
5 black circle 10
1 5 rnd arsenal

>>31935949
Get a bunch, then. You aren't fucked BUT those plastic mags will wear out faster. Some people say plastic mags will crack at the feed lips if left loaded, too, which would kind of suck if it happened to your home defense gun--AKs are reliable, but damaged magazine feed lips will stop them just as cold as any other design.

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>>31936245
>3 clear circle 10 smoke
>4 circle 10 black
>1 od green circle 10
>2 promag .223
>1 5 round arsenal
>1 45 round VEPR 1V
>12 Beryl blacks
>Total: 24
If I could do it all over again I would just have stocked up right away on the Beryl mags as they work perfectly in my Norinco and SLR both, whereas I had to dremel some material off a few Bulgarian mags to make them able to be used in the Norinco. The Beryls are also just a little cheaper if you get them from XXXFENCEXXX on files, $35/ea shipped versus $45-55/ea for the Bulgarian ones.

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>>31936301
Pro mag ? When you get those and why ?

>beryls look best

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>>31935949
Depends on what "dirt" cheap is, and how often you shoot, etc. I bought Magpul 7.62 mags when I first got my WASR, and while they work well for around $12 a pop, I probably would have been better off buying bakelite ones right away as they are just as light, steel reinforced and muh aesthetic. But say, if those Magpuls were $5/ea because somebody was desperate to unload them or something, I'd probably still get them anyway and use them as range mags.

>>31936301
Nice. When I bought my alt I didn't know about the beryl mags. I just ordered off the arsenal site. That OD green mag must be rare, I've never seen it before.

Is that 40 rnd mag? Is that for 556 as well? I wanted a high cap 556 mag but I can't find those either. I saw a guy on YouTube running a 556 rpk mag.

>>31933959
explain someone outside of usa whats the point of these pieces of plastic?

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Surplus mags are the best no reason to buy anything else.

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>>31936316
I got them a few days after I got the Norinco because I read on files that people had got them to work in some Norinco 84s' and SLR-106 as well, and at $10/ea I was willing to flush $20 down the toilet and use them as range mags if need be. This was before I had purchased and confirmed that Beryl mags worked and that I could get them fairly easily.

>>31936279
You said feed lips will crack if left loaded, does that apply to circle 10 smoke mags as well? I thought the circle 10s were supposed to be pretty much indestructible, but I know the black ones are more durable than the smoke ones, but I leave my smoke mags loaded.

>>31936333
Some states like California have a ban on pistol grips

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Just ordered pic related from Atlantic firearms. Figured I should get it now before it gets even more stupid expensive.

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>>31936339
Ah did they work in the norinco ?

>>31936347
Are you planning to make it into sbr?

>>31936342
thats just retarted

>>31936340
I don't know. I've never tried them.

Maybe someone in the thread knows.

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>>31936347
Not bad, are you "african american" by chance ?

>>31936351
Absolutely. Even planning on getting bakelite-style furniture from Ronin's grips for it. And a triangle sidefolding stock.

>>31936356
Nope. Just poor and somewhat broke from buying my Sig and AR. No I don't post in ARG. I can't stand those faggots.

How well should I expect my red dot to hold zero after detaching and reattaching the rail (RS Regulate)?

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>>31936324
There is also a plum 5.56 Circle 10 which is more rare, I want to find one but I don't think I would be lucky to get one before someone else on AKFiles would snatch it up. I paid $100 shipped for that one. The green and plums were 1st gen mags only, they dropped those colors later on and went with the smoke, but the green and plums are metal reinforced, including feed lips, unlike the smoke which only has the metal lugs. You can tell a 1st gen from a second gen by seeing if the horizontal waffle lines continue onto the front spine of the mag, 1st gens stop at the edge, 2nd gens continue across more or less. The VEPR is a 45 round RPK and a recent purchase. If you want AK parts for good prices you need to get an AKfiles account and scour the marketplace daily like all of the autists here on /akg/. Especially for 5.56 mags, you won't find shit on retail websites and if you do they are overpriced.

>>31936366
Ah well they seem to be decent, get a brake and stock of sorts.

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>>31936377
I like to scour.

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>>31936334
>have 8 74 bakelites
>7 plums
>1 RPK74

IT'S NOT ENOUGH
IT'S NEVER ENOUGH

>>31936380
Gonna get an oldschool krinkov style break for it. I'll probably shoot the thing using the Israeli sling method while I wait for my tax stamp to show up.

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>>31936387
I know it never ends
> not that i want it too ;)

>>31936391
That works. I mean they kill things just fine. Get some 40rnd mags.

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>>31936340
The feed lips can crack, but most likely the mags will start to get hairline fractures around the front and rear lugs, and extend across. I bought a brand new fucking mag locally and noticed a few days later that it had cracked while it was still new in the fucking bag. What makes those mags suck is not just that they aren't reinforced at the feed lips, but that the fucking polymer is fucking really brittle and not the same type on the black and colored mags. They look cool but blow dick for costing so much despite being little more than a fancy range mag.

>>31936349
Actually, they did, but didn't in the SLR without me dremeling a little material off of the rear of the mag where the bottom lug passes through the mag. I shot with it a few times but they are so cheesy it makes me feel weird just having them in the rifle.

>>31936401
I think I might stop once I hit 20 or 22 mags assuming there's no ban before then (probably won't be). One of my friends asked if I was still planning to buy a lever gun earlier and I realized I've spent enough money on AK74 mags in the last year alone that I could've already bought the one I was considering.

>>31936401
Was planning on getting some 20rd tanker mags actually. Should make the thing a bit lighter and more handy.

>All these mags
I've got my share but I don't have the variety you guys do.

The only 5.45 mags I have are
>13 plums
>6 black (10)s
>28 true blacks
True blacks are obviously my favorite but it makes my mag count rather boring.

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>>31936386
Thats why were fucking broke, I'm so glad I don't have any other hobbies at the moment. I used to think it was insane dropping $600 on 16 valvesprings for my car and $1100 on four connecting rods, but it's totally reasonable considering what I spent this year to plink, and that I'd think $100+ on a fucking piece of plastic or $300 for some Chinese wood would be normal and acceptable.

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Found some photos and I'm gonna dump ak

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>>31936420
Idk id rather have more capacity.

>>31936414
Why buy a lever gun when you can get another ak ?
>>31936426
>28 true blacks
Dam im jelous
>>31936436
I should have bought more ammo. I always think about the ammo that got away...

Are Croatian BHO mags decent? RobertRTG has them for $13.50 a piece.

>>31936451
It's only 28 because I got a hookup from someone in Russia and bought 20 $275, if it wasn't for that I wouldn't have that many.

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>>31936468
I have two, they are better than the S Korean mags in terms of quality but I had to dremel a shit load of material to get them to fit my WASR. I honestly don't care for the BHO feature much, I might swap those followers out for regular ones later.

>>31936451
I might circle back for an AKM-pattern gun eventually, but I really just want something fun to shoot the thousands of rounds of .22LR I stockpiled before I realized my only rimfire was a bolt action.

I keep ending up putting off fudd guns due to politics though, so I may end up with a PSAK-47 or something first anyway.

>>31936488
Good to know. What stock is that and how did you put it on? I have a pap m92 on the way and I want to SBR it down the road.

Paki tape makes me want candy

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>I need to shoot muh WASR soon...

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>>31936461
ayy that's my baby boy, one of them at least. The other one is sleeping on my lap but he's scared of guns

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>>31936504
>>31936504
Appears to be your standard skeleton russian folder, but Chimps or somebody would know better than I as it's not my Krink, just one I fap to.

>>31936523
I want your catter and your Maadi. Crazy story, I found my 3 cats on 4chan when some anon posted they found kittens that animal control was going to pick up. I posted something like "wouldn't it be funny if you were in AZ and I could just go pick them up?". The anon replied "no fucking way, I'm in AZ", turns out she was 35 minuets from me. So now my cats sleep next to my funz.

>>31936535
Ah. Just not sure how you could get one on to an m92 pistol.

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>>31936535
>>31936523
Related, it's one of the three I picked up.

>>31936549
Short answer is you probably can't.

Long answer is that the 4.5mm folding stock seen on that Krink requires the installation of a 4.5mm folding trunnion in the rear of the gun's receiver. You'll have to drill out the existing trunnion, machine holes for the stock release button, then rivet in the new trunnion and weld up the old holes if necessary. You'll also need to install the latch onto the front trunnion in order to lock the stock when folded, which will likely involve more effort than it's actually worth compared to just buying an all new gun with the correct front and rear trunnions pre-installed, then having the barrel cut down to SBR size.

If you don't want to go the machining route, there's some aftermarket stock options out there for the M92, but they won't be 4.5mm Russian/Bulgy stock compatible.

t. guy who is patiently waiting for his AKS-74N build

>>31936577
Probably just gonna go the manticore arms route. Panic-ordered a Pap M92. Best AK I can afford atm.

>>31936377
I tried making an account on Akfiles awhile back, but I got fed up because the CAPTCHA verification kept saying I was entering in the wrong words when I obviously wasn't. Dunno what the problem was.

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>>31936442
That's my AK I took that pic months ago >>31935973

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was thinking about getting an slr 104, but now with the chance of killary getting elected i am considering an slr 106 instead, because of ammo availability. Are they g2g?

>inb4 buy an ar15

>>31937087
The newer ones are good to go from what I've read, google the prefixes of the problematic early rifles. Factor in the price of 5.56 magazines and current ammo prices, place your bets kek

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>>31934916
>tfw The Ammo Channel dropped off of the face of the fucking earf and stopped making videos

>>31936573
>buy some "russian" steel mags at gun show 10 years ago or so
>see this pic
>they're chinese, not russian
welp. at least I got them cheap.

>>31933616
Fuck the corrosive stuff. Plenty of Wolf and TulAmmo that isnt corrosive. End of days you may not have everything you need to stop that corrosion.

>>31937413
Flatback master race

>>31937419
>End of days you may not have everything you need to stop that corrosion
>Water is scarce
You're fucked already.

>Inb4 oil
Animal fat was used before, it'll be used again.

>>31937445
>dont use corrosive
crisis averted

>>31937448
>use corrosive
>piss down the barrel
crisis averted

>>31937454
that doesnt actually work. enjoy your maymay

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>>31937448
>crisis
I think you're really overplaying the corrosive ammo meme.

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>>31937469
>that bedazled AK

>>31937467
>something that is 95% water won't dissolve and wash away corrosive salts
sure. whatever dude.

>>31937454
If you have a chrome lined barrel then rust is literally a non-issue in the barrel, what you should be concerned with is the front sight base threads, muzzle brake, gas block, and gas tube.

>bakelite scheduled for delivery today

YES
E
S

>>31937477
piss tastes salty and contains salts likely

>>31937507
and urine tends to be slightly acidic, along with containing a higher nitrogen count than sodium

>>31937514
so it adds a slight nitride coating to the barrel if applied while hot?

>>31936586
I know these were shitty but I'm still pissed I didn't buy one when they were available

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>>31936590

It's an OK method/stock. it's solid when open but when closed I don't like it as much.

Mine came with it already installed.

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Falling for the panic meme, silver bear price jumped a little already

>>31933885
Mine ejects softly just forward and to the right of my rifle barrel with golden tiger.
Into space with bear, don't even like to run it through my gun because it beats on it so hard.

Cant decide between AR and AK. What do?

>>31937947
AR, unless you already have one.

>>31937947
As much as I also REALLY want an AK, gonna have to go with >>31937958, unless you're comfortable with paying +$700 for a decent AK-pattern rifle.

Hopefully all goes well today, and importation bans get lifted, which would help drive the price down.

>>31933932
>>31934405
>>31934916
Hornady SST looks like the absolute best home defense round available for 7.62 x 39. It's kinda pricey though, at 65¢/round.

>>31937977
>It's kinda pricey though, at 65¢/round.

That's why you don't plink with it. You buy two boxes. Run one box through to make sure your gun will feed it. (it will) Then load up a mag with the other box and leave that next to your bed for Jamal.

>>31936268
I mean... their are basically identical.

>>31933277
How much for a bayonet? I'm the anon that's been looking for one. I have the dosh

>>31938045
Yep, I'm right there with you. Just about to buy a half case.

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>>31936401
>tfw california
>tfw never be able to use a surplus mag
FUCK

>>31937627

About $20 more per case isn't it? Let the Jewry begin!

>>31931030
I can get you bakalite for 65 bucks a peice at my lgs. Shoot me your email if you interested I get you contacted

>>31938189
Bro hook me up

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>election day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll08ktN6Y24

>>31938189
>65 dollar bakelite

What

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yfw you voted and the only choices for senate and house of rep were democrats.
>alaska

>Final shipment of mag parts from Russia will be delivered today
I
AM
EXCITE

Having a box full of a dozen true black mag bodies with no guts just sitting there mocking me was getting upsetting

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>>31938610
Wtf, guess I'm a gear queer now

>>31937454
You do know that urine contains salt, right?

>>31937977
>Hornady SST looks like the absolute best home defense round

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF89dysghUs

>2+ feet of penetration in calibrated 10% ballistic gelatin
>some FMJ doesn't penetrate this much
>most .30/06 180gr softpoints don't penetrate this much
>most 12 gauge slugs don't penetrate this much

For defense against grizzly bears and moose, maybe. For home defense? There is no way that is staying inside the bad guy. Have you ever heard the term "overpenetration?"

OK guys I'm interested in buying an AKM next month. Thinking entry level. Just contacted a new FFL (one that won't screw me on prices for buying online).

I'll be shopping around locally as well. Anybody have tips?

Also, anybody have the pastebin with different price tiers?

All I know is that IO is garbage and I want to spend AT MOST around 900, but am happy if I can get one for less than 800.

Goal is a backup SHTF rifle

>>31936535
What type of scope is that?

>>31939093
>I'm interested in buying an AKM next month
HAHAHAHA

>>31938962
Just to add on to this, but just about every fluid in the human body is corrosive. Either full of salt or slightly acidic.

>>31939093
I feel like this is bait.

>>31938797
>gear queer
what did he mean by this?

>>31939137
>>31939107

Not bait. Yes I know we are in the middle of panic buying, but I am also in California (not helping my bait argument here) and the cutoff is Dec 21.

Just trying to flesh out my collection more before then. I wanted to see the pastebin again because I know you guys don't bullshit like other reviewers

>>31939007
Why is penetration the only criteria for home defense? What if I live alone out in the country?

>>31939093
Screencap this
>that date

>>31939196
It isn't the only criterion, but it's a very important one to a lot of people.

If you live alone out in the country, fine, use a Barrett Light Fifty and APIT, maybe put some Claymores in the front yard with intersecting fields of fire wired to the doorbell.

But for those of us who have neighbors, or families and kids, especially if we live in apartments, collateral damage is a real concern and we have other criteria and different needs when we're considering different ammo types.

>>31938121
just don't get caught desu

>>31939093
Anon I.....

>>31939093
Good fucking luck. DDI is the best for your budget, but don't overlook a new WASR and ammo. I'd say save your sheckles for an Arsenal but you've waited too late to get into that before they're gone and the panic sets in.

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It begins...

>>31938610
Truly mind bottling. Same sort of shit in Montana, or so I've heard

>>31939093
DDI or a used wasr next week for 950$

>>31939007
Maybe you should have quoted the rest of my sentence
>available
It seems to be the absolute best HD round available in 7.62 x 39, based on the fact that it actually expands in the first three inches after impact, unlike almost every other hollow or soft point in this caliber. Most don't start to expand until much later, making them less ideal for HD. Incidentally, most of them also overpenetrate as much or more than the SST, making your point moot.

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>>31939334

>>31939334
Heyyy I got the same one today

>>31937627
How did 5.45 fare during Sandy Hook? I've got a 1080 can of mixed stuff (mostly Silver Bear and Brown Bear, some 7n6, and 100 rounds of RAS), but I'm starting to get jittery enough to consider ordering another case of Silver Bear while it's still $.27/rd.

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Found this in my dad's basement.

Just got a DDI AK today, immediately pull the bolt back, let go, it sticks halfway. If I rack it hard it goes all the way back. I think it's getting caught on the hammer, but I am not 100% sure. I have not fired a single round yet, but I'm nervous. Should I contact them?

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>Tfw I have a perfectly fine wasr that I fucked up the finish on to the point where it's not usable (I had rattle canned it and fucked that up and I ruined the park. when I removed the first can of paint and then I used a different more expensive kind of grill paint and didn't realize that you had to temperature cure it until I went shooting and it started shitting grey shit everywhere)
There's a few places locally that do this stuff but I'm too embarrassed/autistic to have them refinish it (thinking of just doing cerakote or something)

>>31939411
It did okay until the ATF said no more surplus stuff

>>31939366
Lolno. You don't know how expanding bullets work, do you?

Also, here, cheap Prvi Partizan softnoses. PROTIP: their secret is using a copper jacket for bullets intended to expand, like everyone else on Earth has been doing since jacketed bullets were invented in the 1880s, instead of copper washed mild steel, which the Russians use because it's cheaper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZD3kIeGaUs

That's a 14" jell-o block plus a 6" thick gallon jug of water, totaling probably approximately the equivalent of 18" of calibrated 10% ballistic gelatin. SST penetrates 60% more than that.

>>31939456
Dude just take the dust cover off and see if its the hammer, 90% certain it is

>>31939456
Do this:>>31939480

>>31939480
Yeah, it's the hammer. Send back? Anyone dealt with DDI's service?

>>31939456
This is normal, just make sure that it is happening when the bolt is pushing on the hammer.

If so, then that is part of design

>>31939492
What kind of FCG does it have in it? Is it one with the modified foreign made one or a US made one?

>>31931515
>SGL's fetching double that

I've been out of the gun thing for a while now. Are SGL's really going for 2k now? I fucking own one with pristine Soviet furniture on it. How much would that shit be worth?

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>>31939411
545 isn't exactly a commonly bought cartridge. I don't remember it being terribly hard to find.
But it did jump up from about 21c/r to 25+c/r.
Still can't beat old 7n6 prices, I miss picking up 2160rd crates for 275 including shipping.

>>31939516
>Are SGL's really going for 2k now?
Yes.
>I fucking own one with pristine Soviet furniture on it. How much would that shit be worth?
Don't sell it you stupid fuck

>>31939499
This.

Shoot a few hundred rounds through it, and it will smooth up, though you will always feel the rear of the bolt carrier moving over the hammer as it pivots back to cock.

>>31932793
Fuck off dad

>>31939523
I don't intend too. I value my AK more than money.

>>31937445
>using precious animal fats that you could eat
Kek

>>31939506
Parts kit is Bulgarian.
>>31939499
>>31939526
Thank you, I'll go fire 250 or so and see what's up.

>>31937523
That's what David Filler had been doing with each and every DDI rifle. That's why he's so against chrome lining and he shills his "fenocite" (same as nitriding) coating. You'd be lucky to own one of his Piss Rifles and if you don't agree you need to get laid more

>>31939523
different anon here with an sgl, for $2k, im tempted for sure.

>>31939458
quit being autismo
either lie and say you just got it and wanted to refinish it or just be like lol i tried to do it myself and fucked it up.
no one is gonna give a shit and you sure as hell wont be the first guy to go in there requesting the same thing cause they fucked something up

>>31939554
Then don't even ask yourself how much it's worth. A good AK, a cache of magazines, and a few thousand rounds of ammunition is worth more short of your children, a good dog, and a good wife.

>>31939440
yea... timestamp?

>>31939561
>Parts kit is Bulgarian.
Doesn't answer what the FCG is

>>31939522
Huh, I always thought the price jump came after 7n6 got canned, since there was no more competition.

Still, worth going into slight debt for another 750 rounds?

>>31937523
If your piss is 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit it might potentially force nitrogen into the steel.

I think not properly cleaning your rifle would be the least of your concerns at that point.

>>31939578
Don't do it faggot. You'll regret it just like all those guys that bought pre-89 Hungarian, Chink, and other AK's that were 100% evil assault weapons and 100% foreign made.

>>31939581
>quit being autismo
Fuc u
>either lie and say you just got it and wanted to refinish it or just be like lol i tried to do it myself and fucked it up.
>no one is gonna give a shit and you sure as hell wont be the first guy to go in there requesting the same thing cause they fucked something up
I know they won't give a shit, it's just anxiety inducing for me tbqh

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>>31939597
It's a good think David Filler's piss is a scorching 2000 degrees

>>31939595
>Still, worth going into slight debt for another 750 rounds?
Only if you actually think you'll run out.
If hillary wins, it'll just be more status quo for the most part. There might be a period of market gouging like we're seeing now, but I doubt it'll be more than a short while before they see their inventories stagnate at these raised prices.

>>31939623
>If hillary wins, it'll just be more status quo for the most part.

>>31939492
Please do not waste your time and bother DDI with something like this

I'll tell you now what they'll tell you: it's perfectly normal. As long as you can nudge the BCG forward when it's stopped, then it's not really caught. Shooting it will smooth out the bearing surfaces and make it more difficult for it to catch.

>>31939610
just saying i used to think the same way and it prevented me from doing a lot of shit.
now go get that shit refinished and buy another furniture set just fucking cause
fgt

>>31930770
OK guys.
I've been putting off a '74 build for a long while. However, with the advent of all this other shit I think I'll build a 74u with a 16" barrel if at all possible, and then go back later and SBR it (obviously with the tax stamp and paperwork)

If I use a regular '74 barrel and simply thread and fill the gas port and then drill a new one will I hit any problems if I just completely change out barrels post stamp?

Also, are they even worth it over a regular '74?

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>>31939456

>>31939659
>if I just completely change out barrels post stamp
It isn't exactly easy to "just completely change out barrels" on an AK.

>>31939654
>and buy another furniture set just fucking cause
I was debating on getting some of that sweet new manufacture Polish Laminate
http://armsofamerica.com/newpolishlaminateakwoodstocksetwpistolgripbywbpspecialintroductoryprice9995.aspx

>>31931515
>>31939516
>>31939523
I still remember anons laughing at me for paying $870 for an SGL. What a time to be alive.

>>31939683
That laminate AKM handguard with the palm swells gives me a boner. A woody, if you will.

>>31939675
I have a shop press, the skill to build one (I already built my polish AK kit) and an ungodly amount of time.

Swapping the barrel is not the question or the problem.

The problem is if I can modify a regular '74 barrel to be a 16" krill barrel without problems.

>>31939683
shit looks sweet
jump on it broham

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>>31939383
:^)

>>31939683
I normally wouldn't buy WBP parts, but it's just wood, so go for it.

>Final half of magazine parts came in today from Russia
This is my total haul of true blacks from this buy at $17 a piece. 4 of them are used in good shape with some rust on the locking lugs, 2 of them are used in better shape with no rust on the locking lugs but also no paint on the locking lugs either, and 4 are NOS with no wear on the paint on the locking lugs whatsoever.

Mold numbers of each row are:
>45, 47, 48, 49, 49
>54, 55, 56, 57, 57
The size of the Izhmash triangle and mold numbers fluctuates throughout all of them clearly indicating reuse of old molds.

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>>31939736
Captcha ate my pic

>>31939718
That's a good look.

>>31939746
Is there a way to tell the difference between "military" true blacks and the commercial ones they put out?

>>31939623
I don't shoot my AK nearly as much as my 9mm guns, but it's mostly the import ban concerns that has me worried. I've got enough guns that I can shoot a couple of mags through the AK every 6-12 months and be satisfied, but if Russian ammo imports are banned entirely, suddenly I have a very finite number of times I can do that.

>>31939760
Russia doesn't make commercial true black magazines.

>>31939718
Think I'm going to use your pic for the next thread.
>Hopefully I don't get a "duplicate image" error.

>>31939683
that does look pretty good. shame its not russian, i dont want to put it on my sgl (even if its not correct config anyway)

>>31939659
I would strongly encourage you to just buy a 104UR. A krinkov kit plus two barrels is going to run you just as much if not more than a 104UR. Then just cut the 104UR barrel once the stamp is approved.

>>31939760
There's no such thing as a 30 round 5.45 magazine made by Izhmash that is commercial. There is for the 5.56/.223 mags but that's a whole different ball game.

>>31939697
Proper laminate AKM palmswell handguards can't be beat
>>31939717
Probs will
>>31939730
Yeah, some of the WBP stuff, especially the bolts are "ehhh" to "fuck no"
>>31939791
Buying through some random guy to get affordable Russian laminate isn't worth it for me

>>31939659
Listen to this: >>31939797

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>>31939768
>>31939797
Good to know. So what is the name for these ones they put out with the non-American Saigas?

>>31939840
Oh well I guess there is a commercial 5.45 30rd mag. I forgot about those because we don't get those in the US as far as I know.

Those can be distinguished from the military mags by the front lug of the magazine, it's bulkier and squared off. This is because Saigas don't have bullet guides so the bullet guide is built into the front of the mag.

Those mags usually also have the commercial Izhmash logo, as that one in the picture does.

>>31939797
Okay.

In the meantime I've been thinking and I may end up just leaving it 16" anyways (still light and handy, just legal to bring with me anywhere I could take a regular one)

Any idea where to get one?

>>31939958
What would happen if you used one in a gun with a bullet guide installed?

>>31939961
The problem with that is that the 104URs are fairly overgassed out of the box. It's meant to be that after you cut the barrel down, the system will be gassed correctly. I think some of the newer ones may have gas limiters which would make them properly gassed with the 16" barrel. You could maybe call kvar and see if they have any that they can confirm have the gas limiter installed.

However if you're planning on leaving it at 16", why not just get a full length AK-74?

>>31940001
They actually won't lock in at all. The bullet guide in the rifle gets in the way of the bullet guide on the magazine.

>>31940001
I'm assuming it wouldn't even lock into the gun because the front locking lug

Hey, it's autism wasr guy again >>31939458. I was browsing the place that I was going to have refinish my WASR and apparently they also do AK builds so this box of Bulglarian AK-74 parts may son become a rifle.

New thread

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