.22 lr for self defense

Btw I am aware that .22 is less than ideal for this purpose, but if you have nothing else, it sure as hell beats bear fists.

My walther p22 has been great and never given me issues, even with cheap ammo. There are people on the internet who claim their slide cracked or their pistol is picky about cheap ammo. They'll probably be along shortly to tell you it's a terrible gun. This has not been my experience at all.

A revolver might be a good idea if the round didn't go off because you could pull the trigger again instead of re-racking the slide. If you could find a larger legal centerfire round that might be a better idea.

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The ruger SR 22 is a better handgun, IMO. I've shot both.

Also, most fatal casualties by firearms were from a .22 in the US

.22 absolutely will kill and stop a threat. I

>>31926001
I can have larger calibers but not in a small package that would be viable for concealed carry. For home defense I´ll definitely get something larger, I can even have an AR-15. The main constraint is with 1. size in a handgun and 2. budget. I´m still a university student and the whole process here has bled me dry (over 2000 € so far and I still have no gun). I frankly can´t afford anything else than a .22 for now.

But thanks for the answer.

>>31926006
Thanks, I will look into the SR22. Is there any significant difference in functionality, or is it just more reliable?

>>31926022
Ruger is more reliable, tighter shooting, easier to disassemble, and better placed controls

>>31926001
I have the first generation p22. It's not picky on ammo and the slide did break after about 10,000 rounds. But S&W promptly replaced it for free, no questions. The new ones don't have the slide issue. I think it's a great gun, accurate, compact and a blast suppressed.

>>31926098
Thank you for the input

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>>31925981
> it sure as hell beats bear fists.
I dunno...

The issue isn't with the guns, it's the inherent unreliability of the .22lr ammo itself. We've all been out plinking and have had the occasional round that just won't go off. You don't want a rimfire dud in a critical situation.

Im not OP.

What is /k/'s opinion on .22 or 9mm rubber less lethal rounds. Or rounds with Pepper in them to burn their eyes.

Was considering getting pistol with less lethal ammunition, so if someone ever did break in, i could put the fear of god in them but hopefully not kill them.

>>31927284
>falling for the nonlethal meme
So you just want to piss off your attacker even more. Prepare your anus to get raped even harder.

>>31927284
If you use a non lethatl or less than lethal round for self defense against someone they will sue you and win. Ive asked several cops this same exact question and they have all told me to just regular ammunition.If you are determined to not kill someone then your best bet it using a tasr if you have one, or perhaps a bat. Although little beats an actual firearm for self defense in a break in situation, even if you dont have to use it, a gun commands respect that a bat simply does not.

>>31927328
ok. so that is stupid.
Here im trying to be mister nice guy understanding that if a person is doing crime they are likely in a shit place in their life and Id want them to get help to fix their problems and I wouldnt want to End them.............. but then they could sue me into Oblivion for being lucky enough to break into my house..........

ok, so which Shotgun round would be best to break or shred someone's legs so i can pretend I intended to kill them but missed.

>>31927359
Yeah i wholeheartedly agree but less than lethal rounds show forethought or premeditation in the eyes of prosecution. People have been prosecuted for having customized dust covers on their AR's before. see this article (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjm9-6_hJfQAhXB4CYKHazvC7sQFggeMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thetruthaboutguns.com%2F2016%2F03%2Frobert-farago%2Fcops-ar-15-dust-cover-inscription-used-against-him-in-court%2F&usg=AFQjCNEc2VmfRSP1L6xM8oN7Ctao1f_gaw&sig2=pY7-oCqBDTEt63Gp7N9zlw)
To answer your question m8, your best bet is to go with super light bird load but any shotgun load at close range is devastating. Not to be morbid but something like a 22lr or 9mm to th stomach is very survivable with a quick EMT response