Double stack VEPR 7.62 x 54R mags

>>31879040
Im fairly sure molot attempted to make double stack mags and never produced them for whatever reason.

im actually considering selling my vepr since 54r is so high

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>>31879040
>double stack mags
>vepr54r
This kills the vepr, literally from what I've see. It weakened the receiver so much that it ended up bowed out and wrecked.

>>31879318
Because of widening the mag well? Shieeetttt

>>31879544
Pretty much.

>>31879040
why do x54R mags tend to have those lines on them?

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I'm assuming that the issues with double stack apply because of the rim, but if lel-kek can make the PMR-30 have a 30-round mag of .22 Magnum, somebody somewhere can make a 7.62x54r double stack mag.

>>31879040
>not buying a true dmr
Stay plebs vepr fags. Me and my psl will enjoy our double stack mags

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>>31879663
I don't take quite so hard of stance as you, but I agree in wanting a real dmr.
Also, the heavy ball argument against psls doesn't matter to me. I've shot heavy ball and I much prefer everything about the lighter and faster ammo with one exception, heavy ball does have a small bit better effects while busting thick ice for fun.

>>31879756
I have a crate of some shit from the 40s that kicked the firing pin and embedded it half way through the back of the dust cover... i stick with my silver tip...

>>31879813
I didn't even shoot my heavy stuff from the psl, used a mosin.
That's scary though, and I never was interested in that really old ammo they imported for a bit. That stuff just scared me to look at it. You're making me feel even smarter about my choice.

>>31879663
>true dmr
>considered less accurate and generally worse in every way
If you say so

>>31879040
>>31879318
they would have to be casket style with a rimmed cartridge.
there is no room to bolt a feed ramp behind the chamber because the cartridge is so long and removing material from the chamber yields the expected result of case ruptures.
it's not an issue of width so much as length vs the available space especially considering you could retrofit it with reinforcement plates were former the case.

>>31879813
why you would even shoot surplus 54r machine gun ammo from 40s is beyond me.

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>>31879984
I dont see veprs being used by anybody..........

>>31880535
That doesnt mean a vepr isnt better suited for the job.

>>31880549
Yes... it does...

>>31879613
The ten rounders are two five rounders glued together. Typical Russian kludging.

>>31880535
That's because they're sold exclusively on the civilian market as hunting rifles as a way to get a 54r DMR past the 922r bullshit.

>>31880535
a vepr 54r isn't particularly suited for combat mostly due to the magazines but they are more accurate than a PSL.

>>31880613
sgm isn't russian. not arguing that their magazines are high quality though.
when the plastic warms up in the sun the feed lips can bow out and you have to squeeze the magazine while rocking it into place.
really wish i'd gone with 308.

>>31880391
So a single feed double stack would work?

>CSSPECS coming out with 10rd mags for x54r
>15rd mags to follow in December

Glad I didn't waste money on those SGM piles of shit

>>31880556
No, it doesnt. If anything, being used by a military, let alone an eastern european military, just means its the cheapest passible rifle for that particular role. Thats like rolling out an m14 and claiming that because the u.s. military uses it over the ar-10, its superior.

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>>31880953
>Glad I didn't waste money on those SGM piles of shit

You did waste it on a VEPR, however.

>>31879621
SVD already has double stack 54R mags, and that shit was designed over 50 years ago. Hell, the SVT had one before WWII.

>>31881094
>VEPR
>wasted money
No, try again

>>31880944
yes but getting it to work isn't really worth the development time for the market and they would probably be finnicky at that so i wouldn't hold out hope.

>>31880953
i got enough use out of mine already it's not really something to sweat. curious what price point they will go with.
>obligatory he bought a rifle cheaper to manufacture than an AR-15 but paid 2-3 times the price for a plastic rifle from a manufacturer that STILL does not offer a decent barrel assembly for the 308 and which is only marginally more reliable than an AR-15 under circumstances you will never experience but at least cod players think you're cool

>>31880621
>922r
doesn't affect the military or rest of the world

>>31880778
>more accurate
Not really

>>31881021
>m14 vs ar10
M14 is still being used and was more proven than the m110 platform

>>31881639
>doesn't affect the military or rest of the world
Yes it does. If it's a military rifle it's by 922r definition not for sporting purposes.

>>31881639
actually really and the m14 is a horrible rifle to use as a dmr or anything where accuracy is required. the m14 has served longer but it has also served abysmally outside the wistful memories of people who didn't use it.

>>31881783
Show me a 54r ak platform outside of a psl that has seen combat. Don't worry... ill wait... enjoy your fudd gun

>>31881784
Mk14 ebr would like to have some words with you

>>31882359
https://www.google.com/amp/s/looserounds.com/2015/01/30/the-m14-not-much-for-fighting-a-case-against-the-m14-legend/amp/?client=ms-android-virgin-us

The m14 is gabage as a dmr, which isnt surprising considering it was never intended to be one. Its barely passable and shoulde been replaced before it was even issued. The psl is also inferior to the vepr in every way except magazine capacity.

>>31882359
>>31882423
i was right about to relate the anecdote about hathcock collapsing, i see it's in the article, lol

>>31882423
>psl inferior to vepr in everyway
Once again.... one is used in combat, one is used to shoot deer. Dont be butt hurt you couldn't buy a real firearm when they were cheap

>>31882508
So youre saying that a mosin is better than a ruger precision rifle because the mosin has seen combat?

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>>31882542
Apples to oranges nigger. Two different platforms
>giving my psl a little kiss

>>31882598
>i-i cant justify my elitist attitude about my inferior rifle
>i-its not the same thing
Enjoy your 3moa parts kit and cracked receiver

>>31882621
>why cant i afford nice things
You know what? I secretly do hope the reciever cracks on me, then i can have it rebuilt by the same people who built my all # matching izhmash akm.
>am unemployed, have nicer funs than you
<3 ^.^

>>31882702
>being this butt blasted
I hope youre not implying that a psl is a nice gun. Im a student and probably have more in ammo than you have in guns

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>>31882837
Think so buddy? ^.^

>>31879613
reinforces rigidity. the front taper bullet part might be a tad flimsy without them

>>31882854
>~$900 in 54r and not much else
Yeah, probably

>>31882883
Oh sorry, ~$1750 in 54r. You might have me edged out by a couple hundred bucks. I havent counted in a while

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>>31882854
> 1700 dollerydoos on 54r for a fucking psl
What the fuck dude are you crazy or something?

>>31882359
>Show me a 54r ak platform outside of a psl that has seen combat
PK series

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>>31882985
if he bought them cheap, he definitely isnt crazy considering what a tin or 54r goes for today.

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>>31883002
I hate you. when was that add made?

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>>31883526
2004

>>31883597
750 rds 5.45 for 85 bucks jesus christ

1.2k tok food for $110

>>31883597
wages were the same back then too

good indicator of the current standard of living

>>31880556
The flips have M3 grease guns with suppressors.

>>31881639
>exclusively sold as a hunting rifle

>no evidence

>actual service life was shit
>dusting off old stock to fill dire needs

Excellent argument you compiled

>>31882598
So a bolt action vs bolt and a semi auto ak vs a semi auto ak aren't apples to apples. Interesting

>>31884483
Nugget vs ruger would be the same as ak vs ar.
If you really want to play that game, i would take a finn target nugget over that ruger any day of the week

>>31879621
dont you just have to load the mag like not a nigger and its not a problem

if you carefully load each with the rim in front of the previous wont it work perfect

>>31881639

922r doesn't effect U.S consumers either.

>>31882359

The garand action is unreliable as hell, thus the m14 is a defacto POS.

>>31884609
Yes it does.... its just impossible to enforce. How can you prove something is or isnt domestically manufactured if it snt stamped

>>31884624
the action's resistance to foreign matter is not the only defining factor of reliability you know

>>31886111
yeah, but anyone who owns an M1 or M1A can tell you it's more picky towards lubrication and cleanliness than most modern rifles. Great for a 30's semiauto, but the exposed Garand action is pretty obsolete now.

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Ya done goofed, OP.

You should've got a .308 or .30-06 flavored vepr.

This is what I'm working on.

>>31879621
you can make double stacked mags all fucking day

problem is the vepr will blow up using them