/akg/ AK General

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>>31874996

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A e s t h e t i c

Still not posting it in the OP, but here it is for those that want it posted.

>AK Buyer's Guide ver 1.2

https://ghostbin.com/paste/py877

>>31874980
I guess I'll pick up some Rustoleum or something. I'm glad I'm not the only one bothered my glossy mags.

>>31875024
Stop pushing your shitty pastebin, faggot

I'm an AR guy through and through but I want a classic AK-47 before Hillary takes the throne. I have about $450 to spend, what should I get?

>>31874996
for someone who doesnt know, what am i looking at?

>>31875215
9x39 SP6 IIRC

>>31875200
a time machine. for $450, youre in SKS territory

>>31875132

>pastebin
>but no ads or fucktarded social media integration

How is this worse?

>>31875024
Looks like I need to save up a few hundred more dollars before jumping in to this.

Will the election results influence prices in the short term? I do not get paid until the 12th and I would like to start shooting a 'real gun' at my local range, now that I have been shooting a cheap rifle that uses .22 for about a month now.

>>31875132
I'm the OP, friend.
I posted it before some faggot bitched about it not being posted in the OP.
This will be the last time, we'll see if it gets posted again after this thread.

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>>31875020
You really like that?
Here's another set and a scabbard he did.

>>31875236
I would like to add that I have been told of this panic buying of ammo, but I am referring to the prices of the rifles themselves.

>>31875278
Looks like shit. Who the fuck wants queer flowers and shit on their guns? Put some skulls and flames on that shit. Maybe Jeff Gordon's number.

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>finally got my fucky saiga out to do some magdumps
>jams on last round in mag almost every time
God dammit another thing to fix.

>>31874996
On the topic of aks
Anyone have that Monorail guy from the Simpsons doing a Kalashnikov spoof?

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>>31875024
High Standard Interarms really should get put on there.
Dammit, sorry, I know I'm being annoying and shill-tier, and that there's few reviews of them out there. But they really are excellent, and I hope that by spreading the word they catch on. They got mentioned pretty often back when I first got mine because of my shilling but I guess people just kinda forgot about them.

>>31875024
Alright Mr paste bin should I jump on a tantal in 5.45 for 650 what with the political climate and all
It's not a century so it can't be that bad

>>31875393
>he fell for the saiga meme

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Can I play?

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SAM7SF or GALIL ACE 7.62?

OR VEPR or NPAP

I NEED A 7.62 BEFORE SHTF NOV 8 WHAT DO I DO

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Alright /akg/ i just picked up this SAR-2 and it has a naked muzzle, i want to fit a 74 brake on it and it seems the best way to do so is to buy Jmaccustoms AIMS thread adapter, (http://www.jmac-customs.com/products/aims-thread-conversion?variant=2831230723) see here. I want to know if i could hammer it on rather than pressing it on. im a college student and i dont really wan to drop 130+ on a press ill likely only use once in the foreseeable future. Pic related is my rifle. i posted in the thread before this but it seems like it was a bad time of day to do so. thanks for your advice and help /akg/

>>31875321
>Doesn't want "queer stuff"
>Suggests Jeff Gordon
Subtle.

>>31875485
A 74 brake doesn't belong on that rifle, friend.

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>>31875393
Mine dumps mags like no other. What bullet guide ? Or let me guess fleet farm ?

>>31875236
>Will the election results influence prices in the short term?

They already have and we haven't even had the actual election yet.

>I do not get paid until the 12th

I've got some bad news for you.

>I have been shooting a cheap rifle that uses .22 for about a month now.

Buy more .22 LR now, because if Hitlery wins it's going to disappear even faster than it did in 2012. Content yourself with the fact that you have a gun at all. Bide your time and build your skill.

>>31875506
Although im not really trying to restore it to a true AIMS-74 at the moment a brake does belong on it.

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>>31875485
Might be faster and easier to put an AK74 type threaded front sight base on to replace that AKM type front sight base.

>>31875490
jeff gordon is fucking awesome. my pelican gun case is colored just like his car. i designed it myself.

>>31875548
Do it right then. Resist the fudd life, friend.

>>31875542
Oh darn, I guess I'll go take a gander at my local gun store tomorrow afternoon, then.

How long do you think this will last?

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>>31875513
Nice rpk mags friendo

>>31875393
>that magazine
I think I found your problem.

>>31875485
>Sold out
Don't expect to be able to find the proper 22mm brake even if that was in stock.

>You're probably going to have to thread the barrel to 1/2x28RH and get something from CNC Warrior in that pitch

Or just hold out and see if you can come up with the components down the road, for a more "correct" look.

>>31875562
looked into this, all i can find is Bulgarian surplus ones and they are a bit too large. The barrel on the SAR-2 is a few millimeters to slim for it to fit. Like i said, the AIMS thread adapter seems to be my best bet as it wont force me to cut the barrel in any way which i want to avoid in the very unlikely chance i happen upon a surplus Romanian AIMS-74 FSB.

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>>31875020
Fuck I'm so tempted to give him the $200

>>31875617
>plastic
don't do it

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>>31875321
AR fag detected. Again.

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>>31875580
Thanks man i love rpk mags

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>want zenit accessories
>also want russian pso scope

fuck why are they both so expensive

>>31875606
well the option of a 22mm AIMS thread adapter will let me by without cutting the barrel in case i happen upon the parts needed for a "proper look" later on which i do want to do. My question is could i hammer the adapter on rather than pressing it?

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>>31875393
My saiga runs like a champ. Except my carrier touches the top of the RSB when going over the hammer.

Now I just need to convert the front of the gun. Did you buy yours like that or did you convert it?

>>31875446
What happened to your dust cover?

>>31875666
5.45 ?

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How much should I expect to pay for 5.45 mags?
Anyone have any links to some for sale? Theyre sold out everywhere Ive seen

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>>31875704
Depends if you buy them in America or Russia

>>31875700
Yep, got it fleet when they were $450 wish I grabbed another.

>>31875661
Possibly, but I wouldn't recommend it.
You'll likely gall the shit out of the barrel because hammer strikes are uneven in force and pressure.
Look into the "all thread" method of pressing components.
It's significantly less than a press, and not very real estate heavy as far as the room it takes to store away.

Who the hell is Red White & Blue and are their mags as shitty as the price suggests?

>>31875767
Shitty Promag tier US mag manufacturer.
And yes.

>Ordered my first gun a few days ago. A Wasr 10 because of Gunmageddon
After I get it in anywhere between 3 & 7 weeks (because of shipping & the 10 day wait)
What should i get?
(Besides Ammo & more Mags)

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>>31875719
How do I get in contact with people and get $7 mags?
I found some plums...for 45....

>>31875802
>Besides Ammo & more Mags
what else is there to get? get those first. if you have more disposable income after that, get more

>>31875650
Especially bake rpk mags

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>Both packages of magazine parts have been sitting in New York for like 5 days now
They've literally spent more time in New York than they've spent in their origin facility in St. Petersburg which is surprising for me because every othe AK related thing I've bought from Russia say in some Russian post office for well over a week before it was finally processed and shipped out.

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>>31875868
How the fuck did you get your slavs to use air mail

>these just showed up yesterday

>>31875812
Get in good with a guy who is already selling online, buy some other shit you want anyways to try to reinforce the idea you're a good enough goy for him to do extra work

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>>31875851
Thus is my favorite tho.

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>>31875910
How do I find said guy?

>>31875933
Go play Dota for a bit and you'll find plenty of Russians

>>31875912
Oh shit, my 7.62 bake rpk has same mold number

>>31875200
another $450

>>31875944
Can you share yours? :(

I'd really like to get some mags for my new AK

>>31875910

>these just showed up yesterday
Anon you talked to this last summer, still interested in the deal?

>>31875910
>How the fuck did you get your slavs to use air mail
I dunno I was super surprised at how fast he got everything together and shipped out. He's been real communicative with updates and super nice too which was a real treat. Most of the time its
>Sent payment
>Nothing for a few weeks
>Package eventually arrives

>>31875972
Yea lemme just waste the 1000+ I've spent and plan to spend buying from this guy so I can give out his contact info on an anonymous dickgirl forum

>>31875975
I talked to a lot of anons over the summer, are you importbro? If not then send me an email or something cause I have no idea

>>31875982
Damn dude, I could never do that. Lucky me the only two dudes I deal with are awesome with communication. Just need to get the main one on EMS like the other one is so I can give him more rubles

>>31876005
Well, can I buy you through you? You can give yourself a few dollars markup and you get to keep your contact to yourself

>>31876034
buy them**

>>31876034
There's already half a plan for me to do that but it's being pushed farther and farther back since
>first shipment got confiscate
>second took longer than expected
>kinda wanna do deal with importbro

It's not hard to find a guy who can do it, try the websites where slavs sell shit already

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Califag here. I'm gonna be grip wrapping my AK MOE grip but I want to keep a small flathead screwdriver in there in case of fires. Anyone know how big the compartment is or recommend a small but long enough screwdriver to undo my grip nut?

>>31876075
How about using the one in your cleaning kit instead?

>>31876116
I need it to reach through the MOE grip to the nut. I don't think that cleaning kit piece is long or narrow enough.

>>31876122
Ah, I forgot that has the deep recessed and shorter bolt.
My bad.
Best bet would be to take it to a hardware store and find one that fits.

Why are Korean and Croatian mags so shitty? I know they are, but why? Bad springs?

>>31875753
Thanks alot anon, i looked into the all thread pressing and saw some guys installing barrels with a Toth tool setup which looked like i could easily make it work for a thread adapter. I appreciate the suggestion.

>>31875574
>How long do you think this will last?

The current ammo shortage has lasted longer than the Second World War did, with little sign that anything will get much better any time soon.

>>31876183
I had a Korean mag in 7.62, the feed lips got marred up real bad, it fight tight and all but the it would jam if i loaded it all the way. My guess would be the marring of the feed lips had something to do with it.

>>31876194
So the answer is to become a producer and sell commercially in my local area?

Would that work?

>>31875611
Maybe shim it, if you can get it to come out concentric? Just offering suggestions just in case.

I have a 1990s Intrac imported Romy '74 and when I took the thread protector off I found that not only were there no threads, but the muzzle end of the barrel had been threaded and then the threads milled off, leaving (as you have) barely enough metal to thread it 1/2x28. CNC Warrior makes some appropriate muzzle devices that fit that thread pitch and have locking recesses for the latch pin in the front of the front sight base too.

http://www.cncwarrior.com/Type-74-Brake-1-2-28-RH-p/23145.htm

>>31875667
Shitty Bulgarian spaint finish + CLP

So I was on KVAR looking at Arsenals and I noticed that among their milled rifles there are two varieties, the milled and the milled and forged, whats the difference aside from $200?

>>31876224
You could try, I guess. But it isn't easy to get BATF approval or insurance for a new business manufacturing, for example, primers. There are no guarantees.

Lots of us have been just sitting on our savings, waiting and hoping ammo prices will come back down somewhat before we die of old age/civilization collapses/etc. As I said, there are no guarantees.

>>31876284
Sounds like the milled and forged has a forged barrel

>>31876293
No, it defiantly says Milled and Forged Receiver

>>31876365
>defiantly
>the words jumped off the web page and spat on you
>"do your worst, motherfucker! it's a milled and forged receiver!"
>"freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom!"

What is it called when a bolt carrier is that shiny silver color like what Type 56 AKs and SKS bolt carriers have? Chroming? Stupid question, I know

>>31876365
The milled receivers made by Arsenal Bulgaria are from forged blanks. Years ago Arsenal milled their own receivers in the US, these I assume were not from forgings, but these offerings haven't been available anywhere except the secondhand market for a long time. Post links for the models you're talking about? Any given milled receiver rifle coming from Arsenal Bulgaria should have a forged receiver.

>>31876288
Well I guess I know what I'm going to try to do once I finish my stint in the world of software development.

>>31876405
Milled and forged
http://www.k-var.com/shop/SAM7R.html

Just milled
http://www.k-var.com/shop/SLR-101S.html

>>31876394
In the white.
>They're unfinished.

>>31874996
>Molot VEPR FM-AK47-11
Worth it?!!??

>>31876231
Thanks anon but im not going to try to shim an FSB, i did however find a press on thread adapter from Jmac customs that will give me a 22mm thread base which will in turn allow me to attach a CNC warrior 74 muzzle brake on it, id be satisfied with that for now. although its a press fit adapter another anon here steered me towards the "all thread" pressing method and it seems to much more feasible than a H frame at the moment, Toth tool makes a sweet all thread jig which isnt much cheaper than a press but looks alot more fool proof for what im doing considering i have no experience using a press.

>>31875200
lol

>>31876462
The receiver is described as forged in both of those links. I think the SLR-101 is just an older designation for Arsenal's milled rifles that isn't available anymore. The stock images used for both are the same, just slightly photoshopped.

>>31875200
keep saving or sell an AR if you have multiple. you could maybe score a parts kit for that much but that'd be about it.

>>31876555
I'd imagine they are, you're paying $1000 for what is basically a heavy receiver Saiga which sell fr $1500 and up when fully converted like that there Vepr. What I wonder is why are the muzzles unthreaded? They already fully converted them, why leave out that?

>>31876585
The muzzle is threaded

>>31876585
>removable muzzle nut with 14x1mm left-hand threads

Is threaded anon

>Buying a rifle with no bayonet lug
It's like you don't even *want* to charge forth in the name of the Motherland, Comrade Anon.

>>31876782
FUCK

HOW DO I GET A NON SHIT AK WITH BAYO LUG THAT ISNT GOING TO EXPLODE

>>31876813
WASR

>>31876813
DDI

>>31876822
I refuse to give century any more of my money. i made the mistake of buying an ras47 when they first came out, before it became obvious that the cast pot metal bullshit parts were like little tumors.b that thing is a fucking jammomatic. I cant get through a fucking magazine without a fte or ftf, and im using the magazine that comes with the damn rifle.

FUCKING CENTURY REEEEEEEEE

Also where the fuck am i going to find a ddi besides gunbroker

>>31877312
century doesnt make wasrs, they just change the furniture and dremel the mag well

>>31877312
>>31877366
exactly

imported by Century? mite B good.

manufactured by Century? aw HELL no.

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>>31877312
>>2017-1
>People S T I L L not understanding the difference between imported by and manufactured by

>>31877464
>>31877389
>>31877366
I understand the difference gents, i just dont want to give them any more if my business because of what i previously mentioned.

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got my first credit card today

What do I buy /akg/

>>31875617
Do it. Especially if you've got skill running a rifle like that at the range would cause butthurt to all the AR guys- it would be audible from space

>>31877534
A case of ammo from sgammo.com

are all of these buttpads i see just SVD buttpads? i'm not a huge fan of my sam7sf's stock on my shoulder, so I figured I would try it with a butt pad

>>31875812
what magazine is that and does it come in 7.62?

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>>31878195
Svetogor defence mag from the Ukraine.
They're just modified and painted bakelites, so yes they come in 7.62x39.
But apparently the mod is kinda shoddy and the window tends to fall out with mild use.

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tfw no Ak-105 with manlet stock

Has anyone seen the new vepr AK in stock anywhere?

>>31878488
K-kvar?

evening mates, thinking of building an AK from a pre-folded 80% blank. already built an AR and while it was fun, I'm looking for something a little more in-depth (read: actually building something, not just assembling a box of parts). as far as I can tell theres like twenty billion different variations of AK design out there, one (or more) for each Soviet bloc country. so I can certainly build a rifle, but currently the question is "which rifle".

looking to get a parts kit that's reasonable-ish ($1000 is my hard limit, would prefer to spend $400-600), and has a fixed wood stock, normal (non-vertical-grip) handguard, and decent compatibility with aftermarket parts (going to get a US made barrel, among other things, for 922r compliance). i'll probably end up refinishing every part unless it's particularly beautiful to begin with (unlikely in my price range), so I'd prefer a kit that's common enough to not be considered destroying a piece of history when I end up refinishing it.

any ideas on what I should be looking at?

side question: do kalashnikov-pattern shotguns operate on the same receiver as a rifle? in other words, can I build a saiga or similar as well? because that'd be pretty alright

>>31878789
I'm from Commiefornistan so k-var is out. I've been checking Atlantic and my lgs who told me that their distributor doesn't have any in stock either.

>>31875024
You keep forgetting to add sites for ammo even though multiple anons have told you twice at least in the last two threads.

>>31878986
You should make your own pastebin with your address in it so he can come and wipe your ass for you too

>>31878986
See
>>31875249
I will not be posting it again, I'll leave it to the guy who wrote it so you guys can bitch at him to change it.

>And that's why I won't put it in the OP.

>>31875471
The arsenal or the Vepr. Either one will be a fine rifle. Get what you can afford right now.

>>31875802
After ammo and mags get more ammo and more mags.

>>31876394
Do you mean nickel plated? Or just shiny bare metal?

>>31878992
Why so salty chimps? I know where to buy ammo, but telling someone three times in a row is ridiculous. Maybe you need to go drink some more and chill, get rid of the butthurt.

No ine is gonna read the guide anyways who gives a fuck. We literally had someone ask a WTB question 2 posts after it up top

>>31879132
I understand the idea behind the buyer's guide, to stop people from asking the same questions in every thread. But the people who ask those questions are so helpless that the guide won't make a difference anyways. Look above, guy asking what the best AK for $450 is. The guide is pointless, the market is way too transient to make an effective guide, ammo is always available from different places, OP is not obligated to do something just because 3 people asked him to, and no matter what OP does he will never be able to please everybody so why bother. And I haven't been drunk at 10AM in at least two weeks

>>31875719
>>31875910
Goddammit Putin.

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>>31879256
Cyкa блядь...

>>31879138
That was me trolling

>>31878992
>>31879186
No needs to apologize chimps. The entitled attitude that: >>31878986 had almost set me off and I'm completely sober.

>>31879350
>Entitled
Hardly. Entitlement is bullcrap. I hated the fact that the paste bin guy couldn't remember to update the list, after being reminded more than twice, not that it matters since he isn't posting it again. And I'm not asking for an apology, I just don't want people to jump down my throat for no reason.

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>>31879186

>the market is way too transient to make an effective guide

This. The guide should now be ordered by most available to most scarce (with the used market also being considered), with very generalized price approximations, and ordered by country of origin.


>And I haven't been drunk at 10AM in at least two weeks

You poor bastard.

>>31875321
Calavera, you mean?

I could go for that.

Been looking for a quality 7.62 stamped ak recently and they are either out of stock or people want an absured amount of $ for them. Should I just give in and buy one in 5.45? Would be my first ak.

>>31879561
If you're just looking for an easy solution yes. You just need to consider the likelihood of more imports in the next 6-8 months before an "AWB". Good in my estimation. If you go 5.45 I would leverage into ammo a little harder

>>31877524
So then buy a used one in a private sale

are aks good for home defense?

>>31878805
Pre bent blanks are all over the place. The main issue I had with that was rail placement and welding.

I believe there are bent and welded blanks, complete with compliance letter, where you only need to drill, rivet, and load up with your stuff.
Parts kits are...well, whatever you want. Because parts kits themselves are starting to dry up compared to their wide availability from even 5 years ago, you'll need to search a bit for a good deal. I personally went for a polish variant.

Be sure you have a line on proper tooling for the build. You didn't make any mention of having anything ready like shop presses or welding equipment.

>>31879763
No. The bullets bounce off people.

TRUE MILITARY FACT: since 1947 no one has ever been harmed with any Kalashnikov pattern firearm, nor any firearm in 7.62x39mm caliber. The bullets just bounce off everyone's skin. One tier-1 operator said "it tickles."

>>31874996
What pisses me off is that the steel core 7.62x39mm ban is all Olympic Arms' fault. The made prototype OA-93s in 7.62x39mm for SHOT show '94 and in December they got a warning from Century Arms and NRA-ILA that making these would get it banned from import. But the owner and founder being the senile old fuck he was didn't do jack shit and refused to pull them.

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Fucking why

>>31879787
Olympic Arms was owned by a guy named Robert Scheutz. He did have a response to the warnings:

"I'm in the gun business, not the ammo business, so fuck you."

>russtock sellnig beryl mags for 100$ as Ak101 mags
>they doubled the prices of all the mags recently

I thought those guys were cool

>>31879847
I've talked to the owner a few times since we are in the same industry.
He is under the impression that most mags are dried up and gone for good. This really isn't the case, it's only his easy source that ran out. They are a bit harder to get nowadays, but once ME calms down they'll be back in numbers.

>>31879796
That's fucking retarded

>>31877690
Grenade launcher pads, they are made to slip over several different style AK stocks when running the underbarrel grenade launcher.

>>31879796
Waste of good magazines.

>>31879796
California faggot makes compliant mags for other california fags, he also cuts down steel and bakelite surplus for "1rd bottle openers"

>>31879951
>>31879880
>>31879928


itt: butthurt over a bunch of old commie surplus bullshit

>>31879989
Shut up faggot, commie mags actually work unlike the shit being sold by Crapco and Fagpull

>>31879989
.....you will regret this........

>>31880019
Don't forget Profag.

>>31880019
I've had several premetal insert ak mags from magpul, and I've never had a problem.

>>31880019
Not him, but Tapco and magpul work, just don't last anywhere near as long as surp mags. But I get what you mean

Do the metal inserts in the circle 10 mags actually do that much to protect the mag from the bullet tips? I kinda want one of those clear ones, but if they're the same price it doesn't really make much sense to get the weaker mag.

>>31880088
I have one that works aswell, I just wanted to say Fagpul

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I want a scope for my 74, on the condition it is less than 400$.
Doesn't need to be the best quality, just needs to be a mid-range scope, somewhere in the 2-4x range.

>>31880190
I've wondered about this myself. Of course, I've also heard that the Bulgy waffles are the best thing since sliced bread, etc. Only in these threads do I hear anything about the polymer crumbling away around the latches on each side.

are all of these buttpads i see just SVD buttpads?

>>31880317
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>>31879908

>>31880283
PSO (POSP) 4x24 is a common scope for AK's.
Eastwave is in Canada. I've ordered from them and had no problem with customs. Pretty sure the price on their site would be syrup bucks so you'd have to convert.

http://eastwave.ca/products/scopes/posp4x24v.html

If you end up looking for one on ebay do NOT order one coming from china. It will be a knock off and will not be of good quality.
The ones from eastwave and Kalinka are either from russia or belarus and are good quality.

>>31879989
These aren't even old and surplus.

>>31880339
If that's the price in CAD then they're selling POSPs way cheaper than anywhere else. Kalinka wants about 300USD for them now.

PO scopes and shit should work fine for 5.45 right? How close will the reticules be at different ranges?

>>31880875
out to 600m or so the difference should be less than the thickness of the lines on the reticle, so it should be fine

and it's hard for me to imagine circumstances under which it'd be appropriate or wise to try to engage 600m+ targets with an AK anyway

just saying, even in the ongoing stuff in Afghanistan and Iraq, they keep telling us 90% of engagements in which the riflemen actually fire to engage targets, as opposed to suppressive fire and preventing the opposition from flanking or overrunning the SAW gunners, are within 100m. 98% are within 300m. even WWII-era stamped sheetmetal pistol-caliber SMGs are not as obsolete as you think they are.

>>31880339
I think I'll go Kalinka. Thanks kindred.

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>>31879796
Woah, wtf, is this guy cutting down legit rpk mags to make Cali cuck mags? Please God don't tell me this is happening. Also related, this is how they use their AKs in cali

>>31880339
http://kalinkaoptics.com/rifle-type/kom-4x32-modified-pilade-w-focus-illuminated-1000m-modern-reticle-with-65-mm-side-mount.html
A good deal?

>>31881116
It's a Pilade, so it's basically just civilian/commercial Russian. Not the way to go if you're looking for authenticity.

>>31881124
I don't need that so much. I'm fine with a "civvie" scope.

>>31881233
The commercial shit does have a rep for not being very good though, so keep that in mind as well

>>31881311
Exactly how "not bad"?
Depending on the community, they can have some awful bad criteria for gauging usability, so I apologize.

>>31881233
I don't know what the optics market is like in the U.S. right now, but I'd suggest getting a good mount and buying a U.S. made piece of glass so you can at least warranty it if something goes wrong.

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where can i get 45rd (ideally bakelite) 7.62x39 rpk mags?

>>31876405
Is there a major reliability difference between forged and milled?

>>31881549
Russia or the files or va

Kinda related to akg, but did Norinco bayonets ever come with frogs and wrist straps? I recently got a nice Norinco bakelite and it doesn't come with either and none of the pictures on google seem to show them with any. Would it be sacrilege to just get a Yugo frog and wrist strap to put on it?

>>31881565
The guns in question are both forged and milled. The rough shape is made as a forging and then all the details are milled out.

Forged is stronger than just milled, which is why when you have a "billet" AR receiver it's usually made thicker than a regular forged receiver.

>>31881549
They don't make 45 round bakes for 7.62x39

>>31881982
Im hoping he meant 40rnds

>>31881982
They do have 40rd tho

>>31879796

How to turn your $100+ mag into a $15 gun show oddity: the picture.

>>31881087

This guy already takes perfectly functional surplus mags and ruins them for people that want to play American, so I wouldn't put it past him to ruin RPK mags.

>>31875393

Got a question: what is with the discoloration on the rear of that receiver near the stock? I've seen that before on converted rifles.

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Just ordered my SLR104FR

Couldn't be happier, but is it any different from the SLR104-31?

>>31882816
In the images on their site it didn't look like it had any sort of rail.

http://www.arsenalinc.com/usa/SLR-104FR.html

Is that an error or is it mislabled?

>>31882773

It's not discoloration, it's where the original importer's information was before being obscured for whatever reason.

>>31882778

104 FR simply refers to the rifles with a regular length barrel plus a folder and a rail. The -31 denotes what kind of furniture you're getting on your slr-104FR.

>>31882832

Optics rail.

>>31882840
Ah, the sidemount for the sort of claw mount?

Is the '74 brake as effective as everyone raves about?

>>31879796

dudes a retard.

hurt durr muh dremmel tool, muh stuff is cool guys.

>>31882895
It's quite effective and it's not earth-shattering loud like most AR15 muzzle brakes

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Local fun store got some toks in, $220 each.

Can someone tell me if/when SLR-107s are coming back

>>31882948
Spring perhaps

Well this showed up today.

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>>31883011
Fuck

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>>31875200
> I want a classic AK-47
> I have about $450 to spend
Ahahahaha, fucking prole.

Can anyone link me to some steel AK74 magazines? Not steel reinforced Bakelite, full steel.

>>31883043
>wasr
Really msd?

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>>31883123
6 years running strong you worthless fag.

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>>31883123
>not wanting a WASR

>>31883043
>falling for obvious bait
>poorfag rifle
Prole confirmed

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I want to get an rpk(and 7.62 rpk mags). Where can i get one?

if getting a rpk is too hard, can i get a furniture set for my regular ak to ease the pain of not having one? will it fit? i mostly want that comfy ass stock and carry handle.

>>31883202
I bet my pistol collection is worth more than all of your guns put together cockmuncher.

>>31882833

I see. Wonder why they have to scrub the receivers of the import mark. Thanks.

>>31883224
proofs

>>31883151
Got kicked out of arg so now you have to shit up this general?

>>31883203
>if getting a rpk is too hard
Since grammar and google both proved too hard for you, I'm afraid you may be out of luck.

>>31882895

It's extremely effective,one of the best brakes you can get if you get a real one, I.E Arsenal US made ones, bulgarian,russian, all the others are fake paperweights.

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>>31883229
Post your guns and your dick, fag.
>>31883234
I'm in /arg/ too, fudgepacker. Like, right now.

SG ammo is looking a bit light on 7.62x39, ugh oh.

>>31883249
>airshit carry handle scope
>not a poorfag

>>31883249
>ask for proof of tier pistols
>posts bar of patchouli coconut oil soup
I'm not gay for you

>>31883255
SGAmmo always lists the in-stock value as like 6 or 7 cases regardless of how many they have in stock. They do this in order to elicit the exact reaction you just displayed. Don't fall for their Hebrew tricks

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>>31883259
Chimps, your people are retarded.
>>31883268
It's soap you nigger.

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>>31883259
>what did he mean by this

>>31883246
What about the CNC Warrior version?

>>31883225

I could be wrong but what I heard was Importer 'A' had a deal with russia, so their mark was put on the rifles in russia. The deal fell through and Importer 'B' got the rifles, so someone (either russia, or importer B) used a bunch of dots to scrub out the old importers name, then importer B put their name on them.
I've never heard of an importer mark being put on a gun at the factory, or country of origin, so that theory doesn't make much sense to me.

>>31883273
Speaking of Hebrew faggotry, Widener's is starting to display signs of panic-mongering Kikery.

>>31883286
kisama..... take it back...

>>31883286
>reprofiled lower
>a1 clone
Sucks being retarded doesnt it?

>>31883255
I just bought 1k rounds of golden tiger, it said they have like 23 more cases. I wouldn't buy anything but golden tiger if given the option. I also got 750 rds of silver bear 5.45. Picked up 1k rounds of wolf military classic 7.62 and 750 of wolf polyformance 5.45 at a gun show this weekend too for pretty cheap

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>>31883203
>le correcting grammar online
i bet your dick is huge

>>31883317
Widener's? I only shop from cheaper than dirt, good prices

>>31883340
I need to buy more ammo to weather the storm

Since 7n6 is banned, what is the go to brand now?

How terrible of an idea is one of those Polish AKML clamp-on bipods?

>>31883383

Theres only 2 people making 5.45 for the U.S, tula and barnaul, Barnaul is higher quality just don't buy the mil spec 5.45, SG ammo fucked it up and its underloaded.

>>31883376
Not sure if serious.

A lot of us are boycotting CTD. They have a long-standing habit of, in the event of a panic, cancelling all orders in their system, including those for which inventory is present, then tripling their prices.

This is, in fact, illegal. Complaints have been put in to local authorities but I don't know if they've ever gotten their peepees smacked over it or not.

A lot of us refuse to do business with them.

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Should I?

>>31883430
>SG ammo fucked it up and its underloaded.

For real? That sucks. I got all excited about it when I heard it was "mil spec" and got put on their waiting list for when/if it ever comes back.
So I should pass on that ammo huh?

>>31883430
More info about the underloaded ammo? Mine has been fine so far.

>>31883431
I was joking

>>31883461
Dude yes

>>31883461
If you want the optic to literally explode within one mag. I have two of these

>>31883291

Paperweight, 14x1 threaded 74 brakes don't have a expansion chamber, thus they don't work at all.

>>31883479
what should i get instead
the reviews were good on it

>>31882924
He's taking hard to get mags and cycling them.

>>31883544
At the cheapest, a Vortex Strikefire 2 or PA MD-ADS. Holosun and Bushnell TRS-25 are also poorfag contenders. Don't buy anything gun related from Amazon really

Anybody ever try throwing a Yugo grenade launcher muzzle device on an AK without a gas shut-off lever and launching one of those dummy grenades (with a blank ofc)?
I'm just wondering how much it would fuck up the rifle.

>>31883532
I would think that they've still got that big baffle up front, and that would at least do something.

>>31883568
All of those look like shit.
any recs that arent the tube style?

>>31883587
C-more, Eokek, Trijicon RMR, Burris Fast Fire

>>31883594
I dont want to spend half of the price of my gun on a sight.
Any non tubers, less than $100?

>>31883632
Get an Ultimak and a Holosun you retarded poorfag

Either that or use irons

>>31883461
the tube/micro style fieldsport reddot has surprisingly good reviews.

Does AK care if you use magazine as bipod?

>>31883713
Does a ak care if you use it as anything besides a weapon?

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>>31883755

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>>31878986
>>31879444
Creator here, I've been busy with school, so I've just been chiming in to see if it's posted before I leave meaning I haven't seen any requests for changes.
What would you like me to add? I'll have any changes done by the end of the week.

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>>31883968
Looking back at previous threads I don't remember and I don't see any requests other than a single post telling me that I didn't add ammo.
I also added High Standard AKs to the 500-700~ 7.62x39 AK bracket.

>>31883968
Is tht a ruskie eokek copy or the deal deal?

>>31883327
Post your shit cockwrangler.

>>31884145
A short justification of why each group should be avoided would be neat.

For instance, I have no clue why Lee Armory should be avoided. The easy answer is "because they fuck up builds", but it still leaves me kinda curious because I don't think I've read anything more on them.

It's still a pretty good jumping off point for someone who's shopping around and wants to know what all is available to them.

>>31875513
Yeah, fleet farm. WRONG guide. Im going to fix it at some point.

>>31875599
Something wrong with surplus?

>>31875666
Rear converted, then paid a poor gunsmith to do the rest. Total invested $800.

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>>31884170
It's a Russian holo sight made by JUPITER(Valdai), I wouldn't exactly call it a copy.
Here is their website, http://valdai.su/ ,I think it looks pretty slick.
>>31884189
Honestly I didn't write that part, another anon made the 7.62x39 section and his had an avoid section, I merely put it all together so I have no idea on some of them. If anyone could shed light on why to avoid them, I'd be glad to add it.

>>31884219
Care to explain what you mean by wrong guide?
Kinda new to AK's.

Delete the guide
Ignore lazy AR fag questions
Withhold yous from AR fag posts

>>31883475
>>31883478

There's a thread on akfiles in which people were posting chrono results. It's only 5 pages long. I only have about 1050 rounds of it myself so I didn't get taken too hard, but I'll probably stick with silver bear and monarch for now.

If I didn't need to worry about other calibers right now I might care more, but I'm way too concerned about stocking up on 5.56 and 9mm to spend money replacing 5.45 that comes in a little weak as long as it goes bang and hits what I'm aiming at.

>>31875425

high standard is known for quality issues, and interter arms is I.O tier.

>>31883478

the 60 grain mil spec 5.45 is running 2600-2700fps

123 grain 7.62x39 runs 2400 for reference, 60 grains going 2700 is pathetic, 69 grain tula 5.45 runs 2800, and other 5.45 from barnaul is running 2900-3000 like 7n6.

SG ammo payed extra for lacquer and sealant, then cut the costs on powder charge to make up for it, its junk.

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New to akg but I got this parts kit in a trade

Has anyone built one from a parts kit on here?

>>31882932
They look like baby sea creatures inside their protective sacks. Nice

>>31875599
this. If it's "always last round" it's almost always a magazine spring that's at fault.

Do arsenal slr's still have the problem with the finish bubbling?

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I see you Jefron.

>>31884562
>>31884472
They can't get away with this

I trusted them

>>31884145


fail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcdpfk2YVhk

>>31884715

only a couple had that issue.

>>31884503

Low standard also uses ESS barrels,which are known shit, extremely soft, and have had major key holing issues.

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>>31884969

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>>31884935
Okay, well I haven't released 1.3 yet so I guess I'll take it off.

>>31875716
How has no one recognized how based this is? Operator. As. Fuck.

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>>31885006

Holy shit, thats Bad.

>>31885020
>Magpul
>tapco
Nah its poop

>>31882833
That doesn't really make sense because their 106-21 and 106-81 are supposedly different.

They list the 106-81 as the F model but state it has the siderail.

If I get it and it doesn't have the siderail I'm gonna be pissed.

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Interarms/high standard quality.


http://www.theakforum.net/forums/14-general-discussion/125162-interarms-ak-74-updated-talked-owner-hi-standard.html

>>31885036
Magpul is god-tier on ARs though, no?

>>31885082
Magpul AR handguards are the ugliest shit on the planet; They make some good stuff but I wouldn't call them god tier.

All these happenings wow wow

>>31883249
>>31883268
>>31883286
Nigga that's a cheese

>>31885082
not really
it's good for cheaper end stuff and I like pmags

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Someone wants to trade me surplus FAL mags for an RPK74 bake. What's a fair exchange rate?

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>>31884614
One or two.


(All homebuilds)

It's not cheap, read the builders guide on akfiles, and watch the YouTube videos from mel64d, thedarknightbuilds, and a handful more.

>>31884562
well... does it cycle the rifle? does it poke holes in paper targets?

It's not like the Russian FMJ bullets have some kind of velocity-dependent behavior in soft tissue. They don't deform, they don't fragment, they just yaw, and they yaw the same at 2300 feet per second as they do at 3000.

Not saying it's optimum but it could be much worse. And I bet it would still hurt a lot to get shot with it.

>>31885532
45rnd bakes go for 50-80$ depending on condition.

What's the normal price for a good condition Saiga (converted or not) these days?

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>>31885804
Thanks mate. If they aren't beat to shit I'll probably try to get 3 FAL mags then


Also, cause I don't feel like digging through my emails, whoever asked me about buying RPK bakes may wanna talk to me again soon. I'm gonna buy them myself if he still has them as a trial for getting him to use air mail instead of boat mail

>>31885889
750 and up.

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Can anyone tell me what these parts are?

Id like to build a 5.45 AK but i want to get more familiar with the parts before doing so.

>>31886117
looks like you've circled the rear trunnion (far right)
the handle screw(long skinny one with the square top) the stock screws (two matching ones) and a few parts of the mag catch/release and trigger group m8

>>31886117
Right to left:

Trunnion
Grip screw
Not sure
Parts for fire control group
Top left is screw for buttsock

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>>31879796
Looks neato but i wouldn't was a 100 dollarish mag for it.
I like my 20rd bake but i got it for free, that and the 1rd mag that he makes from dented akm mags.
>>31879951
Hes in utah or something actually, and those like like 20rd mags

>>31886150
>>31886117
Middle is the selector lever stop plate, it's the nub that keeps the selector lever from going down too far, it is riveted between the mag catch and the receiver.

Is a mushrooming bolt carrier part of inevitable wear & tear?

>>31886172
Only very slight mushrooming

>>31877312

https://agsarmament.com/ddi-47-us-stamped-military-polymer-762x39mm

Heres the new us made ones that just went in stock, this one has the combined FSGB but the normal AKM ones are supposed to be out soon, desu Id wait for the side folders but that's just me.

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New to AK
What the fuck is a stamped of milled reciever vs a non stamped or milled.
I keep reading shit talk about those but have no idea what they are.

>>31886235
Google milled receiver ak, than google stamped ak

>>31886235
stamped: a piece of sheet metal stamped into the form of an AK receiver
Milled; a solid chunk of metal milled into an AK receiver
in a nutshell.
you decide which is best for you, although either one will be fine.

>>31886182
How much is too much?

>>31886235
All am receivers are ether stamped or milled, if they are stamped that mean that they where made by taking a 1mm sheet of steel and using a hydraulic press to "stamp" it into shape. A milled receiver is made from a solid steel pice by removing the material until it had the desired shape. Milledare More durable, stamped is lighter and cheap

>>31886153
Tactical /k/at has appropriate urban camouflage pattern. I approve.

>>31886267
>>31886310
thanks friends. Got it figured out.

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>>31886117

If anyone could still help me these last few i need to identify

>>31886543
bottom - full auto splines
upper - magazine release spring
left - trigger plange

>>31886543
Left is the sear, bottom are pins for the hammer and trigger, right is the replacement for the shephard's hook when you convert to full auto

>>31876183
Wait what? Croatian BHO mags are shitty now?

>>31886580
Yeah, we hate Croatian mags now.

>>31886269
hard to describe, post a pic if you're concerned and the collective will give you opinions

>>31886580
>>31886589

somebody needs to make a guide of all the things we hate so people can keep up.

>>31886589
>>31886603
Fuck I was literally just about to order 4. People on youtube said they were okay but if you guys hate them then..

>>31886603
we would just hate the guide too.

New thread

>>31886624

>>31886624

>>31886624

>>31886613
There's a reason people pay more for used Yugo surplus rather than new Croatian mags of the "same" design.

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>>31886625

>>31886613
srsly, I thought Croatian mags were regarded everywhere--here too--as superior to the Warsaw Pact milsurp steel mags by virtue of newer springs and better QC overall. They're bad now? who? wha?