What's your opinion of the Beretta 92FS?

>>31870889
11b-tier

>>31870889
Love mine, over 1500 round though it in 3 years, have the base model and the brigadier. I keep it on my bed for HD or if i suffer a deep existential crisis and have to end myself.

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>>31870889
I've had one for a while. Can't hit dick with it. I got the stock plastic trigger replaced with a metal one but I think I need some more work.

Anyone know of a light trigger I can have installed? I can shoot fine with my buddy's M&P

>>31871309
>>31871374
So this is actually a pretty common gun to own?

>>31871496
Yeah? There is a bit of surplus you can buy and it's a military contracted gun, so the manufacture of it is quite high.

>>31871374
You can replace the D spring. With the stock spring the double action pull is around 11 pounds and single action is around 5/6 pounds. With a smaller spring it gets the double action pull down to 7/8 pounds and single action down to 4 pounds.

http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/trigger-group-parts/hammer-parts/hammer-springs/hammer-spring-d-version-prod27930.aspx

>>31871540
https://www.classicfirearms.com/beretta-9mm-semi-auto-surplus-g-vg

A friend of mine got one of these police turn-ins and it's beat up but it shoots good. And it's cheap.

Beretta 92FS is total crap compared to a lot of other guns, when I shot one at the range I was in disbelief over how bad the components were.

I know a lot of guns come with crappy components, but the Beretta was far past fixing, I don't mind awful grips, or awful sights, those are easily replaced, but when you start getting into awful triggers, then fuck it, buy another gun instead.

>>31871635
>Using a range gun to compare to a new one
You are not worth a nickle of advise,

>>31871635
So you're calling the gun crap over one bad experience at the range? Seems like you need to shoot a newer version of the FS. The trigger may be long in double action but it's by no means crappy, my Italian made 92fs is buttery smooth like a catholic school girl.

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I own an M9A3 and I love it. Not a huge fan of the grip on the regular M9 because of how fat and bulbous it is, but the vertec style M9s are perfect as far as 9mm handguns go (in my opinion).

>>31871496
Get a new one, train with it and it'll be good. Don't be like this
>>31871635
anon by judging it against an over worked range gun.

>>31871691
It was my wife's grandpas gun, and he takes care of his stuff. I honestly feel sorry for the guy that hes shooting a 9mm with such a horrible trigger.

>>31871705
My Cz75b in Matte stainless with upgraded VZ grips, and sights was superior to his Beretta.

>>31871374
you suck at shooting bro

>>31871709
Im jelly, i'd rather buy a 92fs because im cheap but some day i'll get the m9a3

>>31871741
CZfag. That explains it, carry on.

>>31871757
Say that to my face in real life.

>>31870906
Do they even he handguns?

>>31871768
I would proudly call out the craftsmanship of a CZ over the 92 to your face.

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>>31871741
>My Cz75b

>>31871741
>my wife's grandpa's gun
>My Cz75b, upgraded grips, sights "was" superior
That explains everything, you're retarded. Gramp's used gun vs your new Cz

>>31870889
It's good. It may be large but mine's accurate, reliable and there's plenty of aftermarket parts for it. It's my nightstand gun.

It also cycles anything I feed it even with the suppressor on.

>>31870889
If you have big hands, get a 92fs. If you have small hands, get a 92 Vertec.

I just want to be like Christian Bale in Equilibrium.

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I love mine. The 92 has a bunch of redundant safety features.
>firing bin block thats actuated with the trigger pull so the primer cant be struck without the trigger depressed
>The slide safety roles the plunger out of axis so when decocking the hammer it couldn't hit the firing pin if it tried. It leaves this plunger out of axis when on safe.
>The SDA is a very nice configuration. If you put your finger on the trigger out of the holster you're much less likely to ND or an itchy trigger finger won't cook off your first shot. The follow up shots offer a crisp SA though.
>the safety also disengages the trigger bar so the triggers actually disconnected from the sequence of events that would fire the weapon

The 92FS locking block is also fundamentally more accurate (the marginal accuracy is almost never taken to its full potential by an average shooter so the point is sort of moot) because it locks the barrel into the slide when in battery

The barrel does not tilt or change angles during feeding. It moves forward and backward but the magazine is much more in line with the chamber then most pistols. This gives it a lower bore axis and slightly more reliable feeding.

>the mag release can be reversed
>the safety is ambi

It has a long barrel and site axis. Now you can buy glocks and sigs ect... with long barrels but the 92 in particular I would consider a longer barrel/sited weapon giving it an advantage in accuracy and ballistics

The protruding barrel makes fitting a silencer just a machine job and not requiring a new barrel.

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>>31871709
That things fuckn sexy anon I think about buying one all the time.

My twins:>>31871941

>>31871941
I really like the firing pin block design. So if you drop your gun while not on safety, you don't have to worry about an ND

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>>31871972
Yeah, And if you have a lightstrike (rare I know) the DA lets you strike it again. As apposed to striker fire which is 3/4 of the way cocked before you pull the trigger. I know that tap rack bang should apply if you get a like strike but if Im tryna pop off rounds into a threat i might just keep pulling the trigger ya know.

And other gun designs have firing pin blocks its not rare but the Beretta does have one. The little rectangle that comes up when the trigger is depressed is the actual firing pin block. You can use that to visually functions check the weapon in a sintch.

>>31871959
Is that wilson combat's grey coating? I was thinking about doing that but they haven't showed what it looks like (i also haven't looked into it much either)

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>>31870889

Plus... Made in Italy...
Its the Ducati of guns.

>>31871635
get a load of this retard

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>>31872026
No this is a wilson combat brigadier tactical its a factory thing.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/594501393

Ive seen the grey coating in person I didn't like it. I don't like the coating at all actually. Its chipping off in the inside of my slide and it looks like they just spray painted it over the bruniton.

tl;dr
No its black. Just the lighting.

>>31872043
lol don't even bother pointing and laughing. Glock fags nevar learn.

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Should I buy a 92fs compact for my first handgun?

>>31872051
I bought Beretta's Brigadier, imma little offput by the quality of the coating. But i had read that the American berettas have bad qq with coatings.

>>31872086
Nah, its just as thick as the full sized, google the side by side of the full sized and the compact. Trust me (trust an anon) when i say you're better off getting a full sized 92fs.

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>>31872095
Yeah I agree the American Berettas have lower quality coatings. But I beat my pistols anyway the coating isn't important to me. You'd think the Brig would have got the extra time to do it right though. M9s are one thing but the brig is supposed to be super nice.

>>31872086
Nah full sized. The compact will feel close to no different when carried.

>>31872086
Full-sized.

t. Full-size owner who sold his compact

>>31870889
The big, retarded ass, frame mounted safety/decocker kinda kills it for me

>>31871374
get the D spring, it's pretty easy to install

>>31871496
they're a wondernine anon, they're very common.

>>31872200
Its much more ergo than it looks I think. I never found it unattractive but I think a lot of anons think it isn't a natural movement to work the safety in its location.

Its better than you think it is.

>>31872215
Dry firing and shooting more with that trigger will make you a much better shooter. Lighten the hammer spring later on down the road anon. Dry fire more. Focus on the front site tip, steady consistent pull.

>>31871768
>implying slavshit is as good as milspec Italian awesomeness

You're a special kind of retard anon

>>31872086
Those aren't bad but they're overpriced unless you find a trade in on gunbroker.

Get a full sized, either a Beretta 90-Two or a 92A1.

Is it possible for any pistol to look bad with a threaded barrel?

>>31872238
I know, I don't have the D-Spring on my Beretta. Just suggesting it to OP

>>31872086
They're alright. I EDC one. It's not as bad as people make it out to be. The shortened grip helps and proper placement will do you wonders.

>>31872200
G version Berettas kinda kill the issue though

>>31872200
Personally, i like it. When i draw, my thumb being parallel with the slide, swipe down to a grip disengages the safety. You just gotta train more with it.

Whether it's a new gun or your first, you always gotts know the ins and outs of your tools. You life may literally depend on it some day. In my CCW class, the first thing we were told, " We don't rise to the level of our expectations, we fall to the level of our training."

>>31870889
Thought they were bulky and excessively large. Bought one anyway, might be outdated compared to more recent offerings but the 92fs has it's place. It's very accurate, lots of fun to shoot, cheap magazines, plenty of parts availability and WC offerings now, Smiths willing build you custom if you have the coin. The price might seem excessive but they hold value pretty strong. Finish is WEAK so dont baby it then refinish it later when your OCD acts up. Love mine and had LOK grips do some custom panels.

>>31872684
Im thinking about getting these grips
http://www.berettausa.com/en-us/grip-set-walnut-trident/e00649/

>>31872826
Not a fan of medallion grips but it's your preference. Anything is a improvement over the stock grips

>>31872855
Yeah, i have a thing for wood grips and medallioned guns. My first gun was my grandfather's given to me when he died. Wood gripped revolver with viking medallions

>>31870889

I'd get one if I could get cheaper police turn ins.

One day I'll win that lotto and get one.

>>31871374
So you replaced a metal trigger coated with polymer with an uncoated part for no reason while not swapping the springs, safety lever or take down lever for steel.

>>31871635
>components components components
>you can easily swap the sights
>SA is somehow bad

Whatever turd

>>31872200
>frame
So eager to talk shit that you couldn't even meme right

probably slightly off topic but how do the sig p226 compare to the beretta 92/m9/etc? durability, reliability, ergonomics, etc?

>>31874101
Very similar durability/reliability wise.
Ergonomics depends on the person, some find the slide safety odd I'm the opposite I don't like frame safeties.

Cheap surplus mags.

>>31871635
>front sight is easily swappable
Shit posting master right here

>>31871374
Maybe you just suck

>>31874101
Which one did the US military choose?

There's your answer.

>>31873848
Well the stock trigger on the new 92 is plastic, as is the guide spring rod. I switched both for metal for obvious reasons. The trigger did come with new springs that are supposedly lighter but I feel no difference.

>>31874403
You do realize that the military doesn't choose what to buy based on its quality, right?

>>31874435
The Sig and Beretta fought neck and neck back during the militaries testing. They performed almost the exact same. In the end, the Beretta was slightly cheaper so they went with it. So it's still the better option.

>>31874426
The stock trigger is plastic covered steel.

>>31874517
The point was, saying something is better just because the military picked it is legitimately retarded.

>>31874562
Not really. Generally speaking, they don't choose shit.

the one's that are decocker only with changeable front sights are some of the best 9mm handguns you can buy

I'd argue they are the best da/sa gun for 9mm

>>31874572
>what are contractual bidding wars

Yeah, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about

>>31874622
Whatever you say, you retarded fucking nigger.

The GODDAMN final word on the 92FS without fanboys interjecting and shitting up any opinion on the handgun.

It's a fine pistol. Usually if you hear anything negative it's one of a few things:
>Grunts will, and I mean will, misuse the fucking thing. I'm talking about using the damn thing as a hammer. So if a veteran tells you how much it sucks, take it with a grain of salt because odds are he was issued one that was beat to hell and didn't function worth a damn.
>1911 fags. The M9 dethroned the fucker, so there's obvious animosity towards it.
>Glock fags. This is apparent because they'll shit on everything that isn't Glock brand Glock. True, the Glock 17 has a 17 round mag, but you can get one that fits flush with the Beretta.

It works and I'd recommend getting one. It's a bit archaic, sure, but quite honestly a lot of pistols that /k/ faps to are (Browning Hi Power comes to mind). You can use surplus M9 mags that are cheap as fuck ($10 at a local milsurp shop). IF you're worried about the slide mounted safety, you can either:

-Train with the goddamn thing and have it become second nature (like vid below shows)
-OR get a conversion kit from Wilson Combat

https://youtu.be/YExmUVvOqd8

good enough for animu psychopath waifu, good enough for anyone desu

>>31871608
Yeee the d spring is great. My first pistol was a 96D, and it was a laser, but I didn't realize it at the time. I was complaining about how it shot 1cm right at 15 yards lol

>>31874829
WHAT IS THIS GARBAGE?!?!?!?!?!

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>Used M9 as MP for 3 years
>Did competitions with it and won a few
>Carry 92fs for open carry

how plebeian is it to prefer the taurus 92 with its frame mounted safety and decocking lever?

>safety same direction as 1911
>decocking function seperate from the safety
>carrying cocked and locked is an option

One small change makes a big difference in the feel of the gun.

>>31875158
If it works for you it works for you man.

Funny enough I prefer the slide mounted safety. But I ain't gonna shoot your gun when you need it, ya know?

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>>31874956
>he doesn't even gunkata

>>31875158
>safety same direction as 1911
see
>>31874818
>https://youtu.be/YExmUVvOqd8

You fucking retard.

>>31875059
>carry

That gun hasn't seen more than a week of carry. Fucking /k/ basement dwellers giving their advice are the worst.

>>31870889

I like it but it's not in 10mm

>>31875188
No i apologize. I enjoy firearms as engineering ingenuity. Not faggot ass manga movies.

Sorry 60% of /k/. This person just ruined it for the lot of you.

>>31875233
>equilibrium
>manga movie

You need to check yourself anon. Equilibrium was the Matrix for non-fags. It's /k/ as fuck.

>>31875233
Nah, not really, I get pissed when directors fuck up military movies but one of my all time favorite games is Duke Nukem 3D.

>>31875248
I respect your opinion but mine still stands.

>>31875257
What?

>>31875355
>Sorry 60% of /k/. This person just ruined it for the lot of you

Didn't really understood what you meant here. I guessed it had something to do with fantasy mixing with reality. I responded that he really didn't simply because I deal with these kind of people IRL, and that although I get upset over movies that portray military movies incorrectly, a favorite game of mine is about a macho action hero that uses fictional guns to kill aliens and save the world.

>>31875389
Duke Nukem is fine dude why the helll wouldn't it be?

I cringed more while watching that short little gif that was posted than scrolling through a whole "Bubba" thread

>>31875473
My mistake. I mistook you as a purist. You know, the "no fun allowed" anons that post on /k/.

>>31875481
All good. Id like to say the remaining 40% feel the way i do but i can only speak for myself.

>>31871709

Worth the extra $$$? It pisses me off to buy a $1000 gun when a <$400 Taurus PT92 has better ergos. Stupid slide safety.

I'm debating getting one (if they ever get back to $900), but there are LOTS of nice pistols in that range.

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>>31875721

The standard Vertec Inox is more like $750.

>>31875764

Yeah, but which will hold value better? What do you lose going for the regular vertec? AND it STILL does not beat Taurus ergos, which is annoying. I would just change any of them to decock only, but still.

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>>31875204
I carry it every day in a Safariland ALS paddle holster

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>>31875832

>decock only
>Yeah, but which will hold value better?

If that's what you want then pic related the Wilson Combat Beretta 92G Brigadier would be the way to go.

Its expensive ($1100); but its a hell of a gun and it will hold its value better than the Vertec.

If the slide safety really bothers you that much then you might as well just get a CZ.

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>>31871741
>cz
>superior

>>31871374
It's not the gun, it's you. I shoot just fine with an unmodified 92, and i'm a fucking terrible shot.

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>>31871774
240b gunners may carry it.
Scouts, officers and platoon leaders may carry it.
Alot of 11b have the option.

>>31875879
"carry it every day" does not mean strapping it on and sitting at your computer for 12 hours, faggot. EDC guns don't look that perfect. I'd be willing to bet the most action that gun sees is when you take it out of it's case once a month to take it to the range and shoot the ammo paid for by mommy's shekels.

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>>31876090
Kiddo i wear that thing from 0930 till 2000 4 days a week and then anytime i go out. Every thursday i run drills for draw and fire. I understand that you dont take care of your pistols, but some of us do.

>however

The Safariland ALS holsters are great and super comfortable. While they do cover the saftey and you cant switch it off on the downside of the draw, the switch is very easy to manipulate on the way up thanks to the release switch on the holster

>>31876244
Does the inside of that holster have some protection against wear? I got a Blackhawk holster since it was super cheap and saw that it wore down the finish of my 92FS a lil.

>>31876262
Holster wear is inevitable, and safari holsters are no different. Unless you carry the pistol in a case ALL the time, its going to get worn. I plan on sending mine in eventually for a refinish

>>31876285
Gotcha. I could care less about holster wear, but I was curious.

>>31876307
Yeah any holster is going to rub when you use it. Just keep your pistol oiled and out of the rain. The worst holsters for wear are leather holsters, and it just polishes them down to the quick. Biggest points for me on a holster is retention, durability, and comfort. I can drive in the car with the safariland no problem while blackhawk will dig into my thigh like an angry dolphin flipper. Ravens are okay, just hard on belts due to the lack of a proper paddle

>>31876244
>using .mil time as if you aren't a NEET
>playing with little NEET figurines

Yeah no, the only way that gun ever sees the light of day is when you post pictures on /k/ queerboi

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>>31876380
M8.

>>31876380
I'm gonna learn ya a little secret.

Most milfags are nerds. Whether it be comics, 40k, or whatever the fuck he's doing with figurines.

>>31876419
9th age mostly. I also wear strictly anime and pokemon themed shirts to the range because shits and giggles

>>31876419
I'm in the military and this is definitely not true. Sure you get your random weaboos and antisocial autismos here and there but it's not even close to "most".

>>31876455
What's your MOS? Most of the MPs I hang with are definite nerds.

>>31876455
Youre full of horseshit. You dont pull staff duty and not fall into a fandom just to stay awake at 3am. I got into anime because there was tons of that shit to watch

>>31876380
>MUH MIL TIME
Debt collector here: We use 24 hour clocks. So do people in medicine.

Faggot.

>>31876522
>Debt collector here
YOURE NEVER GETTING THE MONEY FROM MY FIRST APARTMENT, YOU FFUUUCCCKKKSSS

>>31876547
Nigger, I collect navients defaulted shit. Pay or get garnished, no court order required. Also I'll harass your family, neighbors, in laws, exes, boss, coworkers, and call your CEOs personal phone and ask for you.

If you're .mil?
Pay or I'll call your CO and very very obviously be a debt collector. Fuck your clearance nigger.

>>31876600
You have no power here, you Satanical Money Gopher. Niggers broke that door and the spic who owned the complex and zuck my nuts

>>31872141
why would they stamp 'stainless' on the barrel? an exposed barrel? and in English? On an Italiano gun? And not like the brand, or model, or caliber? On a designer Italiano gun? Thats fucking stupid.

>>31872260
a luger would look shit

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>>31871959
I thought about buying a Wilson Combat but I seriously cannot stand the regular M9 grip style. The rest of the gun is sexy, but the grip is just horrendous.

>>31875721
I believe it's worth the money. Got a lot of awesome features (have fired a PT92, by the way, and by comparison I think the M9A3 is much better) that I've already used (like the night sights and PVD coated mags) and some I plan to use (threaded barrel).

I think it's probably the best handgun in the $1000 range that has everything included. Most other handguns in the range don't come with such features and most handguns that are cheaper and come out to around the same price after customization FEEL cheaper by comparison.

>>31871741

Metal frame DA/SAfag here.

Sorry, owned multiple CZ-75s and Beretta 92FSs along with Sigs, Walther, S&W 3rd Gens with years of IDPA & 3gun. CZs are the least refined and have the most issues.

The only nice thing about CZs is Condition 1 carry, but what's the point when the Hi-Power exists. In fairness, the SP-01 is much better, but sucks compared to its competitors..

>>31874101
Flip a coin.

Beretta hasn't gone full retard on pricing while QC drops like a 2 dollar whore though. Plus no MIM on a Beretta 92.

>>31874622
Yeah, because the M16, M4, M9, M11, M240, M2, and M249 are all shitty small arms.

Once Springfield Armory was shut down, America really got rid of shitty firearms designed by bureaucratic tards.

>>31871615
Police trade ins are a goldmine. Most only have holster wear at the worst. Nearly all have only been used during qualification. Not to mention they are cheap.

>>31877058

>I thought about buying a Wilson Combat but I seriously cannot stand the regular M9 grip style. The rest of the gun is sexy, but the grip is just horrendous.

You can swap those out you know. Wilson Combat even sells thin grips, if you called them up you could probably order one with the grips you want.

>>31875158
It's the one Taurus firearm that is actually really good.

Only thing are Beretta mags aren't compatible unless you modify them

>>31875832
Then buy a 92G. Decock only and back in production. Same price as a 92FS now.

People would horde them just a few years ago. I sold a beat to fuck police 92G for $500 about 5 years ago because it fixes the safety issue... even though it's really overblown.

>>31874818
You can get 18 round flush fit mags for the beretta now, something I like to rub in Glockfags faces.

As for the veteran thing I've heard mixed things about it. They either love the beretta or hate them, and I've met a lot more in the love camp desu.

>>31877058
lurk in AGS armament they had used vertecs for sale a while back https://agsarmament.com/beretta-92-vertec-9mm

>>31871374
i gotta agree with the other anons, as a kid the only pistol i could get good groupings with was the beretta

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>>31877273
You can swap out the backstrap? The grips themselves are fine, but I just couldn't find the word in my head. I just really like the Vertec backstrap style because I hate the big bulbous bump at the bottom of the Beretta.

>>31877830
Too bad they're out; I'd probably have snagged another gun I don't need if they were still up.

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>>31871709
Muh dick.