Canada general

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>>31870840
best moment of my life is making the rcmp believe i was GRU. what did other /k/ommandos do for Halloween?

>>31870963
Storytime

Also I stayed in and died.

When I get pal, Should I get sks or svd40

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>>31871425
well at first we were lke pic related then we were like>>31870963 we were "a cause for concern" till they spoke to us and my friend said we were GRU and naval infantry living in Canada, they didnt ask many questions or asked us about our armor or anything.

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>>31871564
the legislature is dangerously unprotected and under manned i knocked on the door for a minute trying to annex it and yelled im here to take your country but no one showed up, so we went to precinct 1 downtown to annex that but there was no there either. needless to say theres nothing worth annexing here.

>>31870963
>>31871564
>>31871585
I don't believe that the arsies believed you were GRU. Sometimes people just play along for fun.

>>31870840
since the AR-15 petition never goes anywhere, why don't we make an AK petition to get those off of the prohib list, and into the Non-restricted list? Most SJWs and antigun soccermoms must have forgotten about AKs by this point, as AR is the new scary buzzword for the last 10 years or so, right?
It can't be hard if we justify the fact that the SKS is functionally the same.

>No Russian import bans
>No Chinese import bans
>Canada becomes the greatest importer of AKs

>>31871702
just the one cop and a bunch of drunks believed us, i didnt say i GRU until my actual russian mil friend said i was. other than that people thought we looked dangerous and shit but wanted talk to us. there was drunk Filipino chick that got kicked out of the bar we were at and we we left to go outside she started grabbing me saying she want to come home with me, i almost methhead took her down cause she started chasing us(grab the neck the body will follow) but i didnt want trigger SJWs

>>31871782
should have just rawdogged her, tovarish

>>31871788
i was pretty drunk cause i was nursing a 2l bottle of stolichnaya all night and was pretty high from a random joint that was passed to me on the street and even i wouldnt touch that 4ft fat hobbit. not fat fat but height to weight ratio was way off. people's faces when i pulled a big ass bottle of vodka from my pocket were priceless

>Moleman's a manlet

ahahaha

>>31872230

He doesn't have to dig as much to fit in his tunnels!

>>31870963
>>31871782
you are such a try hard faggot it's unbearably cringey

>>31871730
maybe put some kind of economic spin on it, wouldn't that help?
>burgers border hopping and spending money in our weakened economy, gunshows up 900%

>>31871730
>Most SJWs and antigun soccermoms must have forgotten about AKs by this point
irrelevant

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>>31871730
>It can't be hard if we justify the fact that the SKS is functionally the same.

They'd just turn it around and say that the SKS should be on the prohibited list, if that's the case

>RCMP's face when

>>31871730

>draw a comparison with the SKS

that's more likely to end up with the SKS prohibited than the AK as an NR, anon. Soccer moms definitely still recognize "AK-47"

>>31872807
>>31872800

Shit you beat me.

Applying for PAL, can my references be family members? It doesn't say you can't use them but I want to make sure I'm doing it right.

>>31872868
Lots of people use their mom and dad and the CFO won't say anything but will judge you for it.

>>31871425
Why not both? SKS is usually cheaper and in my opinion easier to take apart.

>>31872875
>CFO won't say anything but will judge you for it.
isn't a mom/dad a pretty good reference? why would they think poorly of that?

>>31872893
>isn't a mom/dad a pretty good reference?

I'm not sure if the CFO considers "MUH BABY DIDDU NUFFIN" as a solid character reference.

>>31872875
Awesome, thanks

>>31872904
Literally doesn't matter, as long as you can find 2 people to say you don't do drugs and don't commit crimes. The only exception is a current live in GF or wife, since there is a section specifically for them.

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>>31872929
>tfw you have to choose between guns or a gf in Canada

>>31872948
Guns won't ruin your life and can only improve it so it's really an easy choice.

>>31872948

Guns are an investment.

>>31872948
Unless you pick an anti-gun bitch who won't compromise at all, you don't.

>>31872948
>letting a woman tell you what to do

Kill yourself my man.

>>31872948
He said live-in girlfriend, anon.

You can have a girlfriend, just don't live with her.

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>>31872948
>tfw pounded this SJW cunt from my uni, with all of my funz right under the bed

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>>31873200
>girlfriend breaks up with you
>calls Archie Empie, tells them she just broke up with her boyfriend and that he owns guns

Literally all it takes, m8.

>letting ERT tell you what to do
LMAO WHAT A KEK AMIRITE GAIZ

Ok /k/ I recently got a job working later night shifts (school during day), and realized that I will be walking home(don't have a car), alone late at night through some areas that I would not be comfortable going through unarmed. Considering that I'm 5'7-5'8 ish, what are some decent ideas for self defence

>>31872948
If you live in Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, or any part of BC that isn't considered the Lower Mainland, you can find pro-gun girls just about anywhere.

>>31872948
>being into women
Shit taste desu

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>choosing real women over anime

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>>31873256
Just cause you lack the ability to get real women doesn't mean we don't, /a/utist.

>>31873235
I would recommend applying for your ATC and legally carrying a concealed firearm once you've been issued it.

>>31873274
>CC or OC
>being issued to anyone other than police and government people
KEK

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>>31873283
>tfw you have to have two documented attempts on your life before you're even allowed to submit the paperwork

>>31873235
A Swiss army knife or equivalent

>>31873293
Fuuuck, why can we never have cool things in this gay country

>>31873293
I've heard that it was actually four, and even then, you'd need a written statement from the RCMP saying that they're unable to protect you. And EVEN then, they may not give you that letter. And EVEN if you get it, there's still no guarantee that you'll get an ATC.

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>>31873235
>>31873283
>>31873293
But seriously, what's the worst that could happen if you CC without a license? I'd rather be in jail than the morgue.

>>31873340
>become incarcerated
>lose all current funs
>weapon ban ranging from 5-10 years to indefinitely depending on the judge

>>31873355
I'd rather have that happen than to fucking lose my life.

>>31873339
Ir work in the bush. My sjw cousin was doing geology in school and got a government job doing surveying or some shit in northern bc. They made her get her rpal and issued her a atc and gave her a 44 to carry in the bush. Everyone in her team had one. Now she swings right only for guns but nothing else.

>>31873387
Then you have your answer.

>>31873334
Look at the bright side. At least we're not socialist Europe.

>TV licenses
>in some countries, licensing extends to "communication" devices, which is just about any piece of electronic that can send/receive signals of some kind (computers, routers, phones, even that old PSP in your attic)
>ID required to purchase cutlery
>knives are banned
>swords require a license
>Olympic target shooters have to use a "trigger trainer" to practice for the Olympics
>carpeted bathrooms
>sinks with separate faucets for hot & cold water
>foods that contain blood, which sounds pretty fuckin' metal at first, until you realize that it's well-done anyway
>loose immigration policies

>>31873404
>sinks with separate faucets for hot & cold water

What

>>31872771
Gun sales in Canada would go through the roof. It would be glorious.

>>31872800
>>31872807
Shit. There has to be some way though. How could we reasonably convince the libs to let them into the country again

>>31873446
>How could we reasonably convince the libs to let them into the country again
AKs? lmao never get real m8, in fact those czh/vzs are gonna be moved to restricted/prohib more than likely, sadly

>>31873446
Voting in a conservative government, and besides I'd be supprised, and disappointed if Trudeau got another term.

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>>31873411
Look at this stupid-ass bullshit.

>>31873482
All depends on the next conservative party leader

>>31873497
The Conservatives really need to hit the Liberals where it hurts the most.

Their next leader should be a gay black woman. I'm okay with chocolate dykes running the country if she's willing to protect our guns.

>>31873486
Fucking savages

>>31873482
>Implying conservatives give a shit
No. All they do is not touch it. Tories will just uphold whatever rights we still have, but they aren't going to give us anything we want.

If we somehow declared AKs a religious symbol, then the Libs would have to let them in otherwise they would be Islamophobic

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Ohhhh baybee , I cunt wait to rip it up tomorrow ( ՞ਊ ՞)

>>31873521
A woman would do wonders. If they swung slightly more left on social issues then theyd clean house. They dont have to worry about losing votes doing that because theres not a major party further right and the liberals would have to come a little right to try and get some more of the votes, which would abandon the left to the ndp.

Splitting the ndp and liberals is the best thing the cons could so

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I'm thinking of modding my 870. What length barrel should I get? is 18.5 the shortest I can go? Will it be absolutely useless for dicking around with skeet/trap if I go that short, or will I just trigger fudds?

>>31873621
They need to get with the fucking program and support legal weed

>>31873235
Pocket sand

>>31873661
Just buy a 18.5 inch barrel. Takes no time to swap em

>>31873556
Kek, we need to get a group of "Muslims" to rally for legal ak's

>>31873734

Looking at stocks, too. Fuck there are a lot to choose from.

hey guys, NBer here. Confused by the requirements posted on the nb firearms safety training page. it says:

Successful completion of the Canadian Firearms Safety Course (CFSC) and/or the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course (CRFSC) is a prerequisite for a Possession and Acquisition Licence (PAL).

so do I need both the CFSC AND the CRFSC, or is it like CFSC if you're getting your PAL, CRFSC if you're getting RPAL?

I only registered for CRFSC, so I don't want to get there and find out need the CFSC first.

>>31873812
CFSC for PAL, both CFSC and CRFSC for RPAL. You should do the CFSC first, but it isn't strictly necessary for the course. You will need it for the license application however.

>>31873812
If u want pal u need to do the NR class
If u want RPal u need to do both NR and R class
Imo do both and apply for the rpal . U might not want it now but u will deff want one down the line . Ask anyone

>>31873235
A bus pass would make you safer.

Or uber

>>31873486
brits. They Could evolve up to a level of overall civilization quite easily, but no. It's not British.

>>31873404
>>TV licenses

Believe, in some euro countries the separately paid licence was abandoned and replaced with...a federal tax.

You pay for TV although you've never watched it even once in your life.

Even the radical religious sects who have banned the watching of television have to pay individual federal tax for TV.

>>31873831
>>31873837
ok thanks guys, gonna go for the RPAL, not one for hunting so range toys are half the reason I want to get my license. I'd also like to get into 3-gun eventually, though I need to look at getting 1gun first

>>31873879
Funny how religion works.

>muh child needs time off class to pray to our god
>muh child needs a lunch that is kosher/halal/jhatka/etc.
>muh child can't learn about Christmas because it goes against Jehovah (see, it's not just brown people!)
>TV tax? Okay!

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You boys get your poppies yet?

>>31874175
Get a sks 200$ and cheap ammo toboot

>>31874471
>sks 200$
Where? Cheapest I can find is 230.

>>31874500
Canammo and cabellas will put them on sale for 200 , they just did it before spanksgiving

>>31874432

Yes.

A lot of people don't wear em nowadays. Let alone know what it means.

>>31874713
That's why it's up to folk like us to keep the tradition alive

>>31874737
How much do y'all give ?
I empty my pocket change so ca.5$

>>31874432
Not yet but I probably won't wear it since I don't leave my house much.

>>31874713
I don't wear them because given the type of work that I do, it's very likely that I'll lose, damage, or soil it. And that could be seen as disrespectful or unpatriotic or something.

lol turd o gonna bring 300k immigrants in 2017
>muh economy
>muh skilled wurkerz
>muh diversity
>muh post national state of former Canada

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>>31874432
>>31874769
I just wear the same one I bought years ago

Has anyone pre ordered a type 81 ?

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>>31874836
Innovation Minister Navdeep Bains as assured us that immigrants create economic growth, and that we should stop thinking about culture and start thinking about money. It's 2016.

>>31874234

What do you think, could we have an open source happy hypocrisy instead of religion?

The reason of course would be the reason as usual.

What would be the better range toy, Vz 58 or Kriss Vector 2nd gen?

>>31875138
If you don't want any practicality at all, buy the Kriss.

Report back when you get it, I've been morbidly curious to check one out since they were released.

>>31873404
>>31873411
>>31873486
>>31873879
>CAUTION
>Personnel are advised to run both HOT and COLD water taps/shower for 3 Minutes before use;
>During this procedure, avoid breathing in the aerosol spray.
British quarters are fucking weird.

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>>31875181
"""""""""""""""""""Great""""""""""""""""""" Britain

>>31873273
>Just cause you lack the ability to get real women
>doesn't mean we don't [lack the ability to get real women]

kek'd

>>31873404
>foods that contain blood, which sounds pretty fuckin' metal at first, until you realize that it's well-done anyway

Fuck you, blood sausage is awesome.

>>31875181
IIRC it's because most Brit hot water tanks are old as dirt and fucking disgusting on the inside, to the point where drinking hot water is a serious health risk.

>>31875217
Brize Norton m8. Our shitty accommodations were certainly built in "England Back Then".

>>31873661

If you're talking about keeping it non-restricted, as long as it is over 26" in overall length with stock folded/collapsed if applicable, you're good to go.

>>31873812
>>31873831
>>31873837
>>31874175

The course IS necessary, now. It was part of C42. Can't just challenge the exam.

If you were in Quebec and you just challenged the exam, they wouldn't give you a hunting license, btw. Course or nothing.

>>31875316
>Steven Blaney fucked this up for CF personnel everywhere forever
>won re-election
I fucking hate Quebec.

>>31875356

If you get a bunch of CF members to take it together and get permission from your superiors to host it, it shouldn't be too difficult to convince a teacher to do a trip to the base specifically for it.

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>>31875110
BAINS?

>>31873225
Are those swim fins on his belt?

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>>31875500
I had a giggle. Enjoy your Double Double, the most Canadian of gets.

>>31874713
I don't wear them because I see it as a meaningless gesture. When someone wears a poppy, they aren't having images of horrifying death in the trenches flash before their eyes. They claim to "remember the sacrifice" soldiers made, but what the fuck does that even mean?

It's national slacktivism in the guise of patriotism. You want to support the military? Join it. You want to honor their sacrifice? Vote for governments that will stay out of foreign conflicts. Wearing a little plastic flower once a year doesn't achieve anything.

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>>31875688
This fucking guy.

>>31875688
The donation to get that little flower directly funds the Royal Candian Legion and helps advocate for better veteran's rights.

>>31875748
On that subject, is Wounded Warriors a scam? Because of heard people say it's a scam, and I'd hate to think Don Cherry was lying to me. I've donated to it in the past.

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>>31875688
>You want to support the military? Join it.
>You want to honor their sacrifice? Vote for governments that will stay out of foreign conflicts.
That's not how this works at all. You want to support the military, vote for governments that keep us involved and don't throttle our budget.
You want to honor the fallen, then acknowledge those who who volunteer to fight today and let them fight for Canadian values and defend Canadian interests abroad. That's what we traded freedoms to do.

The CF is an Expeditionary Force. It always has been, and God willing always will be. To advocate for inaction is to do a disservice to all who have served before.

>>31875861
>fight for Canadian values and defend Canadian interests abroad.
Ahahahaha. Yeah, real embodiment of Canadian values when you send our troops to shoot shitskins overseas.

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>>31875178

>Report back when you get it, I've been morbidly curious to check one out since they were released.

Not him but I have a Kriss. I had bought a Trijicon RX34 reflex sight on sale at wholesale sports for a very good price but wasn't sure what to put it on, and I ended up buying a kriss later that month.

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>>31875928
>shoot shitskins overseas
>implying that doesn't absolutely embody the values of the British Empire

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>>31875950
>have a spare sight
>buy a firearm to have something to put it on

You're a /k/ommando among /k/ommandos, Anon.

>>31875961
>implying we are part of the British Empire
Nigga, not even Great Britain is part of that anymore.

Not a whole lot of Canadians today would agree with your view on "Canadian values". What makes your version right, and their one wrong?

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>>31875979

It can't be helped. Not the first time I've done that.

incidentally I like the Trijicon a hell of a lot more than the old eotech.

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>>31875985
>Not a whole lot of Canadians today would agree with your view on "Canadian values"

Canada isn't even a thing. Trudeau himself has said that Canada is a Post-National State.

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>>31876030

/pol/ has already taught their new AI waifu the truth about him.

>>31875996

That Vector Gen II setup looks sexy af.

Is the stock comfy?

>>31875928
>Canadian values
>shoot shitskins overseas
Sounds good to me

>>31875961
Get Ireland and Britain outta there. America can stay.

I'd hang with the 'stralians than eurocucks

>>31876120

Oh very comfy. I did end up adding a short little verical grip to the Kriss though.

With a shorter barrel it would balance better holding it on the magwel grip, but with the longer Canadian barrel I found holding it a bit further forward felt better.

>>31875928
>Canadian values
>invite shitskins to live here

>>31876176
>SWEDEN YES

Oh wait.

>>31876157
Britain is part of the anglosphere. I don't think Ireland counts, Gaelic is their mother tongue.

if speaking english counts as being anglosphere then throw Germany into the anglosphere.

>>31876162
>longer Canadian barrel I found holding it a bit further forward felt better.

I like the new barrel shroud. Looks like an osprey suppressor.

>>31876195
Might as well throw India in there too

>>31876215

yea I normally just buy SBRs of everything when possible as I normally hate long canadian barrels, but for the Kriss I made an exception.

>>31873404
Some serious generalizations going on there.

>>31876320
The only generalization is that those things apply across Europe. They're all real things in Britain, but only some of them are true in other Euro countries.

>>31876320
>commenting that Anon's comments are generalization , thereby generalizing

When did you realize that you were completely full of shit?

>>31875785
>Wounded Warriors
Thanks to Sam Hyde all I can think of is a giant autist presenting a solo cup for donations from the audience during his stand-up routine

>>31876389
Not him, but how is it a generalization to claim that SOME (not ALL) points of that post are generalizations?

>>31874857
I am going to

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>>31876630
Let us know of the bayonet fits properly. That's a factor for me.

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>>31872748
>going out with friends in gear for Halloween and interacting with police and other people is cringey and try hard

I dont see you walking up to cops from behind while in body armor and a balaclava, with open alcohol on you, just to stop them so you can get pictures or messing around the city center and legislature. you probably stayed at home and browsed 4chan all night and would never be able to walk around in gear on Halloween cause your crippling social autism prevents you from doing shit like that cause you dont want people judging you.

>>31875985

Every Canadian I know buys into the "Peacekeeping" meme hard.

If anything, I think we should be investing a hell of a lot more into the navy than we currently do. Icebreakers. Icebreakers everywhere.

I'm sure our fishermen would be thankful if they fucking got those Chinese boats out of our waters.

>>31876234

With all due respect: Fuck India.

I had a lot more respect for Indians as a whole before I lived in Brampton. Motherfuckers are worse than separatist Quebecers.

>>31877028
I'm for true national defense and foreign noninterventionalism, which is why I advocate a nuclear program and a coast guard for mostly economic and rescue purposes. Maybe a couple fighters for escorting Russian planes out of our airspace, and a small reserve force for natural disasters and whatnot. Our land army is basically irrelevant when it comes to defending our nation against invasion, as is our navy and air force. It is only through nuclear deterrence that a smaller and weaker nation can stand up to a larger and more wealthy modern military. Nukes, like guns for individuals, are the great equalizer.

Because let's face it, the reason we aren't part of the Russian Federation isn't because of our inuit rangers and handful of Leopard 2s, it's because of NATO's combined nuclear arsenal. We need our big brother to the South to have our backs, becase no matter how much we beefed up our military, we could never hope to match Russia or China. With nukes, we'd be on a relatively level playing field.

>>31877130

I would be wholly for Canada developing a nuclear arsenal.

>>31876969
>going out with friends in gear for Halloween and interacting with police and other people
Sounds fun.

>walking up to cops from behind while in body armor and a balaclava, with open alcohol on you
Now that sounds cringey and try hard. Maybe he did spend his Halloween in his room posting memes, but that doesn't really help your case. You still kinda come off as someone trying to prove something to everyone here. Or trying to stage some sort of political protest on Halloween. Neither of which would be inherently bad, but they both would make you a bit of a try hard.

And in case you're going to talk shit about me as well, I spent my Halloween dressed up as a character from a children's cartoon and fagging around with a bunch of other drunken middle-class degenerates. There isn't much you can say to make that sound any worse than it already does.

>>31877130
Also, that's the reason North Korea, arguably one of the worst regimes of the 20th and 21st centuries, remains completely unmolested by countries that would normally be ready to rain democracy down on far nicer nations in a heartbeat. Even if they didn't have their archaic and colossal land army, their shitty short-range nukes would be enough to keep them from getting fucked with.

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>>31877130
>Our land army is basically irrelevant when it comes to defending our nation against invasion
What is Manifest Destiny
What Is The War of 1812

> as is our navy
What is World War II

>and air force
What is NORAD

> It is only through nuclear deterrence that a smaller and weaker nation can stand up to a larger and more wealthy modern military

What is Guerilla Warfare
What is Switzerland's entire Nationa Defense Policy
What is Estonia doing RIGHT NOW

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/world/europe/spooked-by-russia-tiny-estonia-trains-a-nation-of-insurgents.html?smid=fb-share&_r=1&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=New%20Campaign&utm_term=*Situation%20Report&referer=

>Nukes, like guns for individuals, are the great equalizer.
A nation with liberal firearm laws accepts mass shootings happening as a matter of course because responsible armed citizens will stop the shooter before the casuality count gets too high.

A Nuclear Nation accepts nuclear bombings happening because... Oh wait.

You can just admit you're pro-nuke because of your lack of moral courage anytime.

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Has the RCMP talked about the classification of the arx 100 yet ?

>>31877361
Prohibited unfortunately. No good reason given. I was really looking forward to that spaghettishit myself.

>>31877361
>>31877368

Only the centerfire version was prohibited. The .22lr one is non-restricted, although I don't really see the point of such a thing. The gun is way too bulky for a .22 IMO.

>>31877272
>What is Manifest Destiny
>What Is The War of 1812
>World War II
Only one of those featured nukes, and they ended the war.

>guerilla warfare
>switzerland
>Estonia
Doesn't PREVENT invasion, it just frustrates it with the hopes of annoying the enemy so much that they lose interest and leave. If the enemy was genocidal, guerilla warfare would be largely ineffective because insurgencies require popular support in order to survive, and if there is no population left to provide it, the insurgency collapses.

>a nuclear nations accepts nuclear bombings
What point are you trying to make, exactly?

You can just admit you're anti-nuke because you have a childish war fetish and don't seem to understand that if we were to engage in war by ourselves with a superpower, we would lose, and you would die.

>>31872948
>not having a /k/ boyfriend to shoot with

D...Do you want to be mine?

>>31877231
Na that doesnt make me a try hard, if people think i am then theyre over thinking it or. either way we had fun walking around the city in our gear, talking with cops and people who had a great time talking to us, we visited the war memorial and i had to say thank you cause it wasnt for the names on the memorial i or any of you wouldnt be able to do any of this
on an unrelated not do you plan on coming out to the burta winter meet? or are we to try hard :^)

>>31870963
That cop's smile makes me feel happy.

>>31877550
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>>31872948
Guns just sit in my closet just like me.

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I've head rumours that the RCMP want to reclassify the sks, mini-14,m305, and some other semi autos. Is there any chance of this actually happening

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>>31877718
>tfw don't own any centerfire semi autos knowing the rcmp doesn't like those weapons
>tfw perfectly fine with those changes
>tfw am hunter and don't need those types of guns anyway

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>>31877718
>I've head rumours that the RCMP want to reclassify the sks, mini-14,m305, and some other semi autos

Those have been on the block for a few years now

> Is there any chance of this actually happening

The second Trudeau decides that they're gone, they're gone. Thanks fully, this won't be until the next mass shooting. Unfortunately, with the new refugee quotas, it won't be that long.

>>31877735
t. Average CBC commenter

>>31877718
So long as Bill C-42 is still around, they basically can't do shit.

That being said, one of Trudeau's platforms was repealing Bill C-42, but then again Trudeau hasn't made good on a single fucking campaign promise since he was elected so we're probably in the clear.

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>>31877735
Thank you, Anon, for remind everyone that Fudds are out greatest political ally, and will throw us under the bus at the first opportunity so long as they get to keep MUH DURR RIFLE

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>>31877743
>he doesn't know that violent crime rates among refugees are much lower than the general population

>>31877743
Your country is so fucked up.

I know I shouldn't talk, but Jesus H. fuck.

>>31877735
>using guns
youre ancestors defended their fire with just a pointy rock tied to a stick just fine.

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>>31877752
[CITATION NEEDED]

>>31877718
Of course they want to, but so far they have no legal way to do so.

>>31877751
you mean high powered sniper rifles with long range optics. 300win is more common than 7.62x39 and theres no body armor it cant defeat under 200m

>>31877718
polisci/lawfag here

aside from the whole 10/22 fiasco, it's not the rcmp's responsibility to make laws. ultimately, it's up to the MPs in the house of commons to vote on whether a bill becomes law.

now, although >muh classifications are a big discussion within the firearms community, it's not really on anyone else's mind. there is so much other crazy shit going on that, unless an active terrorist cell called "The SKS Mafia" starts terrorizing southern ontario and quebec with SKSs, i doubt anyone will be seriously moving to reclassify your guns.

I wouldn't expect anything to change in trudeau jr's first term.

if he gets a second term, though, you might start to feel like you CANT WAKE UP. but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

>>31877771
>300win is more common than 7.62x39

Got a citation on that? Not being a dick, genuinely interested if there are more .300winmag durr rahfuls than sks's

I wish I could travel back in time and write SHALL in our constitution.

>>31877807
I'd say that x39 is far more common in terms of volume, because people usually buy crates. But your average farmer brown is probably slighly more likely to have a .300 durr rifle than an SKS, since hunting is still the most popular reason for gun ownership in the country (at least, I'm assuming this based on my anecdotal experiences; virtually every gun owner I've spoken to in the trades was a hunter with bolt actions and maybe a shotgun).

>>31877839
Didn't Harper want to do some shit about defining gun ownership/hunting as a Canadian heritage or something

>>31877807
hunting rifles in general are more common than sks's or other scurry semi autos, and in my experience its been 300win or .270s, then shotguns, then semi autos, and finally handguns being fairly uncommon actually, seems only certian people in Canada own handguns or other restricted firearms

>>31877749

Not true! They tried REALLY HARD to get as many Syrians into the country as they said!

Everything else, well...

>>31877844

7.62x39 is roughly equivalent to .30-30 Winchester. It's perfectly capable of hunting everything up to and including deer.

Thanks to the US import ban, we also got them into the country in massive quantities for dirt cheap. They're about as plentiful as 10/22's and those had been everyone's first rifle for decades.

>>31878047
Some people have even used .30-30 on moose, but I think that's pushing it. It would be more responsible as a hunter to use something more potent. At least .303 British.

>>31878136

I'd go for something in the .308 family, given the choice. I'm quite fond of 7mm-08, myself. Good balance of range, power, penetration and barrel life.

>>31875299
Doesn't it have to be manufactured to be 26.5" overall?

>>31878401

660mm (25.98") is the cutoff. Making it slightly longer is insurance.

>>31878299
I consider .303 and .308 to be just about the same level. With the same barrel length and same bullet weight, the difference in velocity would likely be within 100 ft/s, I figure.

Mk.VII Ball .303 is 174gr going 2440 ft/s from a 25" barrel
M80 Ball 7.62 Nato is 150gr going 2800 ft/s from... either a 22" or a 24" barrel. .303 from an MLE is probably ballistically the same level as .308 from a barrel of 20" or shorter. If using a P14 instead of a Lee Enfield, you can basically even overload .303 to what would be considered 'dangerous'. That Mauser-esque action (though if anything possibly stronger due to the safety lug being that meaty bolt handle) is much stronger than the Lee bolt's two rear locking lugs.

In short; if something will go down reliably with a .308, then it'll go down reliably with a .303. Moose have been hunted by .303 in my family for generations. Cheers from Newfoundland.

>>31870840
Remember folks, the Donald Trump app now accepts canadian provinces as states.

Second amendment soon, brothers!

>>31879368
Honestly wed end up being a bunch of California's. Our laws aint the greatest but some states are worse.

>>31872868

Used my mom and my sister. They only called my sister.

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>just got my first job with an actually halfway decent salary
>want to get myself a neat range toy to celebrate
>everything that's even remotely interesting is out of stock

>>31877735

>need

SHALL

>>31879829
What are you looking for?

>>31879849
Either a fun tacticool rifle in pistol caliber or 5.56 or something fucking ridiculous like in .338 Lapua or .50 BMG.

I'd have to save for a couple more months for the latter though.

>>31879864
Not auper familiar with ars or carbines. But of your range doesnt go past 1400 338 and 50 are a waste for a range toy. Budget?

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>>31872948
>have gf
>6 months into relationship
>tell her I wanna get a gun
>she says OK
>get mossberg 500 field
>she thinks it's pretty
>she comes to range with me
>we shoot some trap
>she has so much fun and won't stop smiling even though she hit 2 out of 50
>now she wants her own gun

You don't have to pick between guns and women anon, you just have to find one that isn't a controlling bitch

>>31879884
Probably around 1-2k but I live very frugally so I don't mind saving for a while either.

>>31879910
You've got a damn good one there. Hold onto her. Do the tongue thing with her girly bits.

>>31879956
toung pounch her pfart box

>>31873621
>If they swung slightly more left on social issues then they'd clean house.
You're about the only one who thinks that around here then. All kinds of faggots say the opposite, that going more conservative, or full-Trump, is the only way.

Shit, after all the promises Trudeau has broken (and I didn't even vote for him), I'm willing to hear the Tories out next election.

>>31877242
Their nukes didn't have anything to do with it, it's because unlike the fucking desert N. Korea has some very favorable terrain for the defender.

Not to mention has range on the S. Korean capital with dozens of artillery positions, enough to rain hell on the people there before counter-batteries and aircraft could silence them all.

Also China has a strategic interest in maintaining a presence on the peninsula, though as this point they'd be better off just overthrowing lil' Kim and replacing him with a puppet.

>>31877761
>Demands proof
>when noone ever presents proof of the opposite
Not even that guy, but he's right.

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>>31873235
>>31873303
Knives aren't illegal (yet) anon,

>>31880011

Theres a lot more people on the left edge of where the conservatives sit than on the edge of the right. If they got a woman in charge who toed the party line andbut was pro choice they'd win for sure.

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>>31876969
>get accused of being a tryhard faggot
>post this

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>>31873621
what kind of social issues are you talking about? no party in canada is particularly socially conservative

i guess they did stay pretty steadfast on weed, which they probably could have conceded on and won the election

>>31877618
i'd come to the meet, though you may be a faggot here but i'm sure like most people you're perfectly fine in person

>>31880609
Weed and pro life would get them a majority so fast. Expecially if trudeau doesnt make good on his promise for legal weed

>>31880630
they may not be "pro life" but they've explicitly stated many times they do not intend to revisit the abortion issue

>>31880648
sorry "pro choice" i meant to say

>>31877272
>What is Manifest Destiny
>What Is The War of 1812
during this time we had a much larger military than the invaders

>What is World War II
at the start of WWII we had a huge navy because everyone else's had been buttfucked but ours was untouched. not the case today, we can't afford to buy ships that don't sink or submarines that will surface

>What is Guerilla Warfare
pretty much ineffective. guerilla warfare's purpose is to prolong the war long enough to build a regular army powerful enough to defeat the occupation force. didn't you read the books?
>What is Switzerland's entire Nationa Defense Policy
which we don't use, and which we won't be able to use because we're less and less culturally cohesive due to immigration. for the record I am for conscription into the primary reserves.
>What is Estonia doing RIGHT NOW
I don't know what Estonia is doing RIGHT NOW. They're a joke.

Nuclear weapons save lives. The cold war stayed cold because of nuclear weapons. Not owning nuclear weapons doesn't prevent nuclear bombings, because other nations will own nuclear weapons and you can't prevent them from bombing anyone except with the threat of nuclear fire.

>>31877752
I grew up in an area filled with refugees and my experience doesn't correlate with this. the somalian experiment doesn't correlate with this either

>>31880609
the anti-weed thing might be misguided. most weed in Canada is grown in rural ridings by people who are likely to be right wing

the question is, would the rural growers prefer it stays illegal for higher margins or becomes legal so it's safer to grow?

>>31880790
by right wing, I mean right leaning on social issues

>>31880801
Is anyone really right leaning on social issues? What would an export of this even be?

>>31880879
example* fuckin auto correct

posted that while pooping

it seems to me no one is really socially conservative in canada

i'm not nuts about things like gay marriage but i don't care enough to want it to be illegal

>>31877658
>Another Haligonian on /k/
Ayyy

>>31880879
>>31880928
guns
immigrants
hunting
whether or not "canadian culture" exists

gay marriage is dumb because it's just for tax bennies. unlike with real marriage, they aren't going to pop out children so there's no need for a structure which helps to bind the family together. I have no idea why gay marriage is such a big issue, gays are like 1% of the population and I doubt most of them even want to get married. Like you I don't really care, I just think it's dumb.

the tranny thing is another manufactured outrage

>>31881185
most people wouldnt put guns and hunting into the social category, now it's been reduced to meaning are you pro weed and gay orgies or anti weed and gay orgies

as far as immigration is concerned i've met plenty of what you'd consider right wing/conservatives that are just as or more pro immigration than people who vote ndp/liberal

but i do know what you mean

i completely agree in regards to the gay thing, i mention the child rearing part and it's hilarious how many people didn't even think about that part of it at all, and also yeah, very few gays do or want to get married

the tranny thing is so irrelevant it's infuriating we even talk about it

>>31881235
>more pro immigration than ndp/liberal
is such a thing even possible?

>>31881249
i know people who vote ndp/liberal who are anti immigrant

they just hate conservatives too much for other reasons to vote for them

not to mention the conservatives were pretty well just as pro immigration as the other parties

>>31881235
what category do guns and hunting fit into? economic?

>>31881324
crimminal

>>31881324
i know what you mean, but most people would consider hunting an environmental/conservation issue

guns falls more into criminal law in most peoples minds

>>31881358
I don't understand the logic

homosexuality used to fall into criminal law and still does in many countries

>>31871425
This is a semi-tough question these days, it depends on what you want more I think. An SKS makes a better starter rifle because ammo is a little cheaper, the rifle itself is cheaper, as >>31872884 mentioned it's easier to take apart for cleaning, and there's no gas adjustments (this can be a major pain in the ass). HOWEVER, SVT's are getting rarer and rarer by the day in this country, because imports from Ukraine dried up pretty badly after the war started. So if you absolutely have to have an SVT in your collection, it would be best to get it sooner rather than later, prices are only going up. The one place SVT prices are relatively stable is the used market on CGN. I will personally say that I enjoy shooting my SVT more than my SKS, but my SKS is the rifle that I trust more and is better for the woods in general. I would suggest getting both eventually but what you get first depends on which you like or want more.

>>31876030
Holy fuck I don't know if it's his face but I have tears in the corners of my eyes now.

>>31873706
I kek'd

Also hey fellow Canadian mother fuckers, how many of you have Ross rifles (sportered or otherwise) and how do you like them? I'm considering trying to track down a sporter because I'm not going to be fighting in a trench any time soon and would like a quintessential Canadian rifle.

>>31881369
That area of government isn't called criminal law, they call it either justice and/or public safety these days. Guns, for instance, are overseen by the Department of Public Safety.

>>31881369
>homosexuality used to fall into criminal law and still does in many countries
bigot homophobe

>>31881406
>>31881415
you misunderstand. things are declared criminal or not due to social or economic issues. mass spying is a social issue in politics but it's also administered under the public safety department of government.

>>31881463
t. bigot

i bet you didn't even dance naked in the pride parade you shitlord

>>31871425
SKS first

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What do you guys think about these weird-ass Norc ARs? Anyone here shot one? I figure with a new finish and different furniture, you could do a good budget A2 build.

montreal fag here, inner city

suppose I get my PAL, what the fuck can I do exactly? most clubs around here are pure fudd and ban "military calibers" so you can pretty much only shoot .22 and 12 gauge. I'm not really into hunting.

how risky is it to just drive into the outskirts and try to find a patch a grass where I won't be bothered?

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>>31881481
I don't deny it.

>>31881970
What is going on with that front sight base?

>>31881974
i don't know about how much crown land is available out there, but in BC there are tons of places in the woods you can shoot

>>31882051
I dunno. The one at my LGS has a regular one. The finish is crap, like those weird grey-ish "blued" Vz.58s, but the fit is surprisingly good, very solid.

>>31881974
You need to find some crown land to shoot on, or privately owned land and get permission from the owner to shoot there.

>>31882052
Not on the island

>fk u island timberlands

>>31882382
my buddy in campbell river said there's tons of places

Why do the RCMP seize your guns if you're suicidal? Can't a man just kill himself in peace?

>>31882486
Sorry Goy
No destruction of government property

I'm curious on gun laws if the Alberta bc and Saskatchewan left Canada
Would we actually have auto funs?

thoughts on the norinco m14?

>>31882486
Same reason the atf burned down waco, just be thankful the rcmp doesnt always kill you to prevent suicide. Sometimes Theyll just crack your skull on the pavment give you brain damage and claim you were like that when they got there, or have 5 cops taze you all at the same time for resisting cause 5 cops are pinning you down and tazing you so you cant move when they say give me your arm

>>31882619
it's ok for its price

Anybody ever bought off of General Gun & Supply?

>>31882486

Someone has to clean up that mess anon.

>>31882919
AKA creating employment. That's why I throw garbage on the street, to give street cleaners a job.

>>31880316
Yes they are. If you carry a knife and use it for the purposes of self defense, you can be charged with assault with a weapon. Even if you carry a knife for practical purposes as a designated tool (box cutting, etc), and use it to defend yourself if the situation arises, you can still be charged with use of a deadly weapon. Not even joking.

>>31877618
I wouldn't even have enough time to drive out there until next year, and even then it's kinda unlikely. What's the exact date you're all currently planning on?

>>31882404
Not on the south island**

Lots of what most people think is crown usually turns out to be owned by island timberlands too. Campbell river might be where thier monopoly ends

>>31883157
If you can reasonably convince people you were in fear of your life, then you can't actually be convicted of using a deadly weapon since you were defending your own life.

>>31883362
I meant you can avoid the conviction. You'll probably still have to prove it in court though.

>>31879910
>>we shoot some trap

Jesus Anon, I know people hate trap threads but you can't just murder them for it

>>31879910
>You don't have to pick between guns and women anon, you just have to find one that isn't a controlling bitch
you realize that that's like 1 out of 20 girls though

not to mention even 1:1

in the 18-35 demographic there is something like a 4-5% disparity between male and female so there's not even enough women to go around in general, let alone good ones

now that men don't die in work accidents/misadventure/war as much we're not longer compensating for our high birth rate

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Rate my first purchase. PAL just arrived today.

If i want to buy a tokarev, do I have to do anything other than join a gun club? I live in BC. I joined silvercore for 30 bucks / year so i can just do drop ins at the range. Do I need to inform the CFO of this or can I just order a tokarev off of the internet?

>>31883997
>4-5% disparity between male and female so there's not even enough women to go around
Fuck, no wonder there's so much degeneracy.

And I don't mean gay guys. I honestly can't blame most of them for turning out the way they did. I wish I had enough balls to not put with women's bullshit.

The real degeneracy lies in poly and cuckold relationships. We may joke about it often, but it's very much a real thing. There are men who are legitimately content with being secondary or tertiary to his female partner.

>>31884120
If it's a retail sale, the vendor will do most of the legwork for you.

If it's a private sale, a good portion of the responsibility falls on you.

>>31884120

Bring a copy of your silvercore membership letter to the gun store, they'll send it with the other info to the CFO.

>>31884308
Thank you friend

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>>31881970
I have one, my first AR. I somewhat regret it because I would prefer the 14.5 norc M4, but it was all the fun store had and I was really wanting an AR. I've put maybe 200-300 rounds through it so far and not a single issue to be had.

That said, should I get myself a Norc 14.5 AR from Lever Arms, or save up a bit more and just get myself an M&P Sport 2?

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>>31881970
I may have the opportunity to trade my slightly used AR for one of those. Should I do it, guys? They're both around the same value, but I don't know if I want to just go ahead and do a typical M4gery or something like pic related, maybe with one of those Colt optics or something.

Should I expect to spend about $1500 on a decent AR-15?

>>31884484
I guess it depends on what you mean by "Decent". The Norinco CQA AR15s, while not very pretty to look at, are really fucking solid guns, and are the cheapest way to get an AR here. You can spend the rest of the money you saved on not getting a $1500 AR on new parts for the norc, if you find it necessary.

>>31884515
I'm inexperienced, only reading in other threads that Colt and Windham Weaponry ARs run ~1k in the states.

>>31881974

CRAFM is pretty good for pistol shooting.

>>31884539
>inexperienced
Gotcha. So, short answer is no, you don't have to spend that much on a decent AR. Only place I know of that still has the norc AR15s is Lever Arms, for $800 (after tax and shipping). From all I've read, they're stupid reliable guns, people have put thousands through them without malfunction. The triggers feel gritty, but are serviceable (and easily replaced), the front sight blocks are apparently impossible to remove, and people often have them cut off, and from what I've heard the delta rings aren't quite to spec, so if you get a different handguard it may require some filing to make fit.

If you want american made, you can get an M&P 15 Sport 2 from I Run Guns for just below $1k after shipping and tax, they're one of the more budget AR options in the states, and are supposed to be very good, high quality guns for a decent price.

>>31884398
What kind of accuracy did you get out of that thing?

>>31884398
Also, aren't those CQs more fragile? Wikipedia says they're Metal Injection Molded. Would that make them weaker? Did you ever abuse it?

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>>31884724
Pic related. One of the targets saved from my first range day with it, at about 46m from a rested position on a bench using american eagle AR223. The non circled group is the best group I've achieved so far. That said, I'm a fairly new shooter, have shit upper body strength, so I don't claim to be a marksman or anything, it's the only really good group I've shot so far, the circled group is what I typically get, but like I said, there's a good chance it's me and not the gun.

>>31884743
Haven't abused it or anything, no. Don't really plan on it. Like I said, every shot has gone bang so far, and it feels sturdy, so I'm pretty happy.

>>31884120
Holy shit, is that thing mint? I just got my first one and it's a little rough around the edges but it'll do fine. But shit that one's nice!

>>31874432
Yeah, I threw in a 20 for it

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Did i do good? It's my first scary black gun.

>>31884908
I miss 5% sales tax

>>31884908
Not bad, I recall buying 4 mags with shipping and taxes for ~$100 though. Just something to consider.
http://www.leverarms.com/products/cz-858-vz58-5-30-magazine?variant=12155265985

>>31884808
I found it on the back of the display at the Vancouver lever arms store. All the other ones had dings in them. I havent cleaned it yet though. Lever arms has pretty cool svts also may go get one soon

>>31884908
Where'd you buy that?

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>>31884120
Nice choice Anon, welcome to the Canuck gun ring.

>>31885634
Kelly's sporting goods, in Ontario.

>>31884791
my sks is more accurate at 200m using 50 year old corrosive russian surplus ammo

>>31882930
>hunting in BC
>drive into logging road
>50% of all signs are shot
>trash on the road
>bridges are rarely shot
>people set up "gun ranges" and leave their shit everywhere
>walk into the bush
>see a load of trash
>someone walked 30 minutes into a dense forest just to illegally dump
>shot up computers, cars, other electronics, couches, beds, plastics, kitchenware
>fucking mountains of pajamas just laying in the middle of an unpaved road

Fuck you guys are worse than Indians in India. It's literally easier and cheaper to legally dump your shit than to just go into a logging road and poo everywhere.

>20XX
>BC's backcountry can not be traversed due to loads of trash spilled everywhere

>>31886144
caprey?

>>31886144
>50% of all signs are shot
The rest of that shit is inexcusable, but am I the only one who likes seeing roadsigns with bullet holes?

>>31886144

Motherfuckers. If they can be arsed to drag something out into the bush, they can be arsed to drag it back out.

I used to live on a mountain with a big nature reserve on it. Lynx, falcons, snakes, all sorts of cool shit living on it.

Every fucking time we went climbing there, we'd find plastic wrappers, cans, bottles, all sorts of trash. Shit was infuriating.

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For any Ottawafags who plan to make good on Le Baron's bankruptcy sale, you're shit outta luck for 7.62x39, .308, and .22. But there are still stacks of 12ga remaining, among other things. The prices aren't as low as I'd hoped. I guess Le Baron will be jewing along right until its dying breath.

>>31886299
>bankruptcy sale

dafuq? tell me more

>>31877772
>aside from the whole 10/22 fiasco, it's not the rcmp's responsibility to make laws.

ACTUALLY
Directly from the Liberal government, the RCMP are the most knowledgeable on firearms and therefore make the best decisions on firearms classifications and everything firearms related.
Citing the AR15 reclassification request in particular.

>>31886409
I just heard about it in the past week, but from what I understand they declared bankruptcy well over a month ago. Although I'm not entirely clear on why things were going so poorly for them, it's not a total surprise. Place was pretty slow most of the time. I have heard their customer service wasn't exactly stellar, and their prices were never very competitive, so maybe they were doomed with SAIL being all shiny and well-stocked and then a Cabela's popping up on the west side.

It is still kinda sad for such an old business to fizzle out like that, and it does suck, purely from a consumer's point of view, to see them out of the race. And now I have no local source for crates of SKS food.

>>31886412
Well, the Libs and NDP both want the RCMP to make the laws, but as it stands right now, they are only in charge of classification and enforcement.

>>31886532

I've only ever been to the one in Montreal, but it was pretty tiny and too densely packed to really be able to look around.

>>31876185
WEEDMAN YES

>>31886602
The Ottawa one had the opposite problem, too much space for too few customers. Made the whole store seem depressed and unappealing. I'm actually going to Montreal this weekend though so maybe I'll see if I can score any better deals off the Le Baron deathbed there.

>>31886668

I meant too densely packed with product.

You had about one shoulder's width for all the isles. You had to climb stairs just to get to the rifle section.

I live in Winnipeg, what's the most basic, least likely to bruise muh shoulder and least costly gun that I can buy?
>inb4 moist nugget

>>31877368
>Prohibited unfortunately. No good reason given.

>implying it doesn't look like a scary baby-killer 9000 salt weapon

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>>31886739
SKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKSKS

>>31886739
Sks

>>31886739
Sks

>implying there's a reason to own a nugget when the sks is so cheap

>>31886739

The most basic firearm design you'll find that isn't a muzzle-loader is a break-action.

The least powerful commonly used round today is the .22 LR.

The least costly firearms you'll find are going to be used single-shot .22's. You can get an old single-shot bolt-action .22lr Cooey for under 100 bucks.

But it's not like a 7.62x39 will break the bank or your shoulder.

>>31886764
*sigh* was about to inb4 SKS
What is a more exotic option to speak, not just semi autos though, like an old Mauser was something I'd like to have, or some thing that kicks less than a 12ga, AND is within driving distance of Winnipeg (don't wanna jump to and fro provinces looking) for my first gun

>>31886766
>>31886774
>>31886786
Refer to>>31886789

>>31886412
they can make requests/recommendations, but it's the MPs who make the decisions

the liberal MPs are not all trudeau jr's butt-buddies. some of them are more socially conservative than you might think. even with the majority, it's not like 'errmagerd majority, trudeaujr can do anything he wants'

>>31886789
probably a swedish mauser in 6.5x55

exotic, not too much recoil, can hunt. not total garb like a nugget would be either.

>>31886836
Ooo, sounds nice, but where to find it in my area though? Was thinking on getting a single-shot 45-70 at one point, but not right for me right now, anywho I'd still like to know if there are more places to buy guns than the 2 places I do know, I need it's of help if I wanna build a /k/ollection on funz

>>31886815
the liberal party has demonstrated that they are willing to whip when it comes to guns

>>31886789
You should definitely go with a nice trusty bolt-action
>kicks less than a 12ga
Technically that would leave you open to .308, which is a nice trusty round

>>31886726
With a little more room in the aisles that actually sounds a lot more cozy and appealing than the desolate tundra in the Ottawa store. Did they have many other shoppers when you went there?

>>31886865
Thanks man, I got a chance to shoot a .308 bit chicken'd out. But I must know one thing, how bad is the kick on a .270 Remington?

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>>31886789
>>31886805

T B H F A M

SVT40 (kicks much softer than nugget, about as hard as an SKS), ammo isn't quite SKS cheap, but nevertheless it's fun to shoot a self loading 54r rifle which weighs and kicks nearly identically to an SKS. Kind of exotic imo and already in the process of drying up with the prices notably rising ($200 around 5 years ago, $375 before taxes at lever arms about a year ago, and $400 before taxes last time I've checked a few months ago). If you can care for it and learn how to adjust the gas system effectively and learn which ammo it eats worst and best, you will have a fun time.

I like shooting it more than my SKS desu

>>31872948
>Live in downtown Toronto
>Every girl I meet eventually bails once they find out I own funs.
>QT across the hall in my condo called the cops once when I was moving my safe in claiming "she thought all gun were illegal"

Fucking kill me

>>31886887
Hmm, I'm taking a liking to the SVT now, but where to find one in my area?

>>31886884
Wouldn't know, I've never shot a .270. But I know it's rather popular among hunters, who tend to favor rounds that don't dislocate their shoulders

>>31886878

I've only been a few times. There were maybe two other people there the entire time.

>>31886893
>she thought all gun were illegal

Shockingly all too common.

I really hope that new range in Vaughan opens up. Having nice new facilities to shoot at will be a great boon to the community.

>>31886910
Check the CGN milsurp exchange forum, your local gunshows, maybe a few LGS's (don't know what it's like or what they typically sell where you are), or order one from 'lever arms'

>>31886851
you can order them online

i forget the website though. not marstar, but somebody on here will know the one.

>>31887157
Trade ex canada.

>>31887750
thats the one

gotta get em while supplies last tho

>>31887889
Ive wanted to buy one for a long time.

>>31887988
best thing to do is (no joke) lurk the website until a new shipment comes in and then buy one of the good ones before theyre all gone

>>31887988
also are you on our discord?

https://discord.gg/zP8UrTb

>>31887998
Being a poor ass student is whats holding me back from a glorious 6.5x55. Might sell a savage 223 and a norc 1911 to fund one though. That, some brass and a set of dies and im gtg.

>>31888005
Been leary of it... maybe tomorrow after lecture.

>>31888040
>Being a poor ass student is whats holding me back from a glorious 6.5x55.
I know those feels, I own 3 rifles and a shotgun right now. I'd own probably close to 10 guns if I wasn't a student, and some would be handguns because I wouldn't be moving so much.

I haven't yet mastered my Vz so I shouldn't get like an M305 yet, correct?

>>31888671
Do what you want, just because you have a new gun doesn't mean you need to stop using the old one.
>I say as I plan on buying a new gun when I haven't even shot the last new gun I bought.

Is it fine to use Chinese surplus to zero a rifle or should I invest in one or two boxes of factory ammo?

>>31888968
It depends on how similar the ballistics are for the surp versus the ammo you plan on (hunting?) with, as well as how variable the surplus ammo is in terms of performance. To be safe, zero with the ammo you plan on using.

>>31889080

No hunting for me. Plan on using surplus so I guess ill stick with surplus.

>>31888579
8 rifles 2 pistols and 2 shotguns here. From before i bece a student. Got the ammo to shoot thrm too, just no time

>>31889881
Well even as it stands I really want to get an SKS before prices go up next summer.

>>31890519
WHY CAN'T SKS+SPAM CAN DEAL SALES GO ON SALE WHEN I HAVE THE MONEY, WHY DO THEY GO ON SALE COINCIDENTALLY RIGHT AFTER I BLEW A LOT OF MONEY ON SOMETHING ELSE WTF REEEEEEEEE

>>31890557
>TFW still have over a tin of x39 from when I bought my VZ58 last September
>I don't get out much because I'm a student