Poorfag Guide - Panic Buying Update

>>31866333
show me ANYWHERE selling a draco for 500. matter fact, ake draco off the fucking list because you wont find one in the budget range of a poorfag

>>31866597
Good point any suggestions for a poorfag's truck gun?

>>31866698
Shotguns are pretty good as truck guns.
But you'd probably have to SBS it to make it into a great truck gun.

>>31866698
Honestly the Hi-Point pistol or carbine would be a good truck gun. It's cheap and can take abuse without worrying too much about ruining it.

You could also put a combloc surplus pistol on the list as well. Maybe let the poorfags know to keep an eye out for great discounts on police trade ins (can't remember if the list mentions it).

For the PPS-43, idk. I'd just recommend a cheap pistol carbine to take it's place.

I dunno how PSAs are doing, but I would imagine they'd be a good substitute for Del-Ton. Depending on the political climate after the election, I'd make a new poorfag's list to adjust to panic buying, as well as to keep away from some price gouging websites, like Cheaper Than Dirt.

Hope that helps.

>>31866777
Fuck me, I just read the top of the list.

Disregard the panic buying update comment.

>>31866777
I like the police trade in things, but combloc surplus comes in harder to find calibers that sort of negate the cheap aspect.

>>31866800
True. I didn't consider the ammo availability.

I know /k/ hates .40, but I have seen a lot of sales on .40 handguns and ammo. Maybe list it as a last resort option. Also let them know that .45 can get pretty expensive.

>>31866758
Cobray derringer, in 45, 410 shell.

just picked up a ria m206 at rural king last night for $200 the sale might still be going on not sure though it had just started when I checked.

>>31866333
Going to buy a mini 14 tomorrow for $650
SS with synthetic stock. Two 30 rd mags.

>>31866849
How reliable is cobray though? I shot a street sweeper once and i was kinda afraid it was going to kill me.

>>31866849
I never really liked derringers for practical use.
The only reason I'd ever carry one is as an extra CCW, just in case my real CC jams or blows up or something.

>>31866777
I put the PSA MOE freedom carbine on there in place of the del-ton but i don't know a lot about it what should i put in the description?

You can get a Marlin 795 for about the same price as the Model 60 and the 795 comes with a detachable magazine.
I would also add the Zastava M88a you can still pick one up for around 200-250.

>>31866333
Put armslist under the website. I found an M9A1 for $400 once, but was too late to grab it. Just make sure to put a footnote on having them do some research on price before buying it.

>>31867007
I hadn't even noticed that wasnt on there.

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heres an update, still dont know enough about psa to write anything worthwhile.

>>31867150
You're doing good, anon. It's much better. Hopefully you'll be able to help out some poorfags from getting raped.

I wouldn't worry too much about having little info on PSA. If I could make a recommendation, maybe mention about their build kits. I hear they're quite affordable. See if you can include the absolute bare minimum tools you need to build an AR. See if they have friends that may already have these tools that could help them out. Or, see if they can find similar tools for much cheaper prices at Harbor Freight or Home Depot instead of ordering them from Brownells.

If they cannot order a complete AR kit, perhaps you could write a small piece on just buying a complete lower. They can save up for parts later on as their budget allows.

That's really all I have at the moment. Hope it helps.

>>31867225
Ill stick it in under the handguns, i dont know much about building an ar but ill learn. I am an actual poorfag, i used this as a starting point for my HD and CCW weapons but along the way saw how dated it was.

>>31867273
Same. My first CCW pistol was a CZ-82, then I upgraded to a PPS.

Poorfag here, buying a bersa firestorm right now, so you can add that to the list

$430 after all the bullshit
Commifornia too

>>31867302
Im still carrying my bersa thunder, ill upgrade someday but first i have to pay off school

>>31867303
Also, shit dood, I saw a nugget at the same store I got the firestorm at, for the same posted price, with magpouches and a bayonet

>>31867312
Thunder mags work for the firestorm if you're budgeting hard.

>>31867312
I carry the CZ during the colder months.

You can put the PPS Classic on the list as well. It's not bad and pretty inexpensive. Only drawback is the mags are pricey.

The Shield is another good option.

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>>31867150
You're doing god's work, son.

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I made a nogunz commie state edition a couple weeks ago with some /k/ input.

How does it look?

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>>31866333

I paid $275 for a 1925 Ishvesk Hex Receiver Mosin Nagant in California two months ago. Only data point I have to add

>>31867362
Did you get any extras with it? I paid $329 (before tax and background check) for my 1928 Ishvesk hex. It came with a bayonet, 2 mag pouches, a cleaning kit and an oiler though.

Poorfag here. The bit about Saturday night specials blowing up in your hand is utter bullshit. I've got a phoenix hp22 and I shoot it all the time. Never even jammed.

Here's a tip for poorfags who want more expensive guns.. join sportsman's guide and use the 4 pay system, that's how I got my AR without starving.

>>31866877
Out of curiosity, why? It's a more expensive AR that performs worse.

>>31867358
That's fucking dumb you can't get a Mak in this state they aren't on the roster. Do you even live here?

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>>31867358
This is what got me thinking about updating the poor fag edition.
>>31867346
How much does that run for usually?

>>31867303
I added in an addendum under the thunder, seemed silly to put two almost identical guns right next to eachother

>>31867334
added this too

>>31867445
I got my PPS for around $300 IIRC. I'd say around $350-$400. Same for the Shield.

>>31867424
You can by handguns made before 1965 that aren't on the roster because of C&R exemptions.

You can't import them from other states though.

>>31867358

For rifles, add Savage Axis.

>>31866333
Can we take out the pics of all those people?
Its clearly meant to fill dead space and doesnt help at all.

>>31867388

Yeah it came with all of that. Pretty cool. I wish I could find ammo though

>>31867468
I'll think about it.

You faggots can also add to and edit it in MS paint too. It's not like I copyrighted anything on there.

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>>31867445
I got a 30$ flashlight mount and it didn't fit so I did two loops with electric tape. Will this be OK or is it beyond autistic?

>>31867483
Not me

>>31867468
Can you give me some info? ill add it in where the pics are becuase >>31867473 is right its just dead space fill

>>31866597
Atlantic sells PAP krinks for 500

>>31867458
Here's the list of pros and cons I'd give for the PPS.

Pros:
>Decent trigger
>Easy to operate
>Points well
>Has changeable backstraps
>VERY easy to conceal since it's single stack

Neutrals:
>It's a paddle release. Good for lefties but some people prefer button release

Cons:
>Mags are pricey
>Even with the interchangeable backstraps some people say it doesn't fit their hand well
>Kind of small for bigger hands, but it should come with an 8 round mag that offers pinky extension
>Aftermarket is meh

>>31867500
Well, when they were in stock

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>>31867468
IT'S ALREADY THERE

>>31867483
When I tried to overhaul the sticky many moons ago I said the same thing.

Trust me, the only person that'll do it will be you.

>>31867480
Lucky bastard. Milsurp is getting harder and harder to find in central CA so I just said "fuck it" and bought mine for $329.

Ask your LGS if they can order some 7.62x54r if you're having trouble finding ammo.

>>31867504
Thanks thats better than most of the bullshit i spew. first hand and everything.

>>31867523
I guess I am expecting too much by asking a bunch of NEETs to help me finish my OC.

anybody got anything to add to the build your own ar section?

is

midwayusa.com/general.mvc/index/how-to-build-ar-15-rifle

a decent resource for building an upper?

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>>31867557

IAC Hawk Pump Action Shotgun is acceptable and sub 300$
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/iac-hawk-pump-action-shotgun-12-gauge-3-185-barrel-5-rounds-synthetic-stock-black-finish-981r-845503000276.do

>>31867589
What can you tell me about this? anyone got any other shotgun to add? i made some room

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Okay here is the last update for tonight, ill look for a semi auto shotgun and add the ar build and post again soon

>>31867613
the chinese iac hawk is a 99% exact copy of an 870 the only difference is the magtube length and barrel lug location. pretty much everything is compatible

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a lot of these are really, really stupid

no Tisas?

no M&P Shield?

no surplus guns? no fucking mak's?!?!?!

a fucking FNS is the $500 handgun we use in the guide? are you kidding me?

THE P250???!!

this whole guide is fucking shit.

the entire pistol section should be something like
>Hi-Point 9mm - $150
>Ruger LCP - $200
>S&W SD9VE - $300
>Ruger SR9E - $320
>S&W M&P Shield 9mm - $380

SCCY? Kel-Tec? BERSA? holy shit fucking kill yourselves.

the whole shotgun section should literally just be the Maverick 88 or the 500/870. those other three are fucking garbage wastes of money and you'd be better off buying a $150 Hi-Point.

the entire rifle section should be a Marlin 60, Ruger 10/22, the Hi-Point carbine, and the the M&P 15 Sport. everything else is old and unreliable or is fucking retarded as a HD gun.

>>31867699
>I'M HELPING!

>>31867693
good info ill add that in. i just did some quick research and threw that up in a similar format to the original

>>31867699
make your own then faggot, just because their poor doesnt mean they dont get choices

>>31867719
oh might as well add the same thing applies to the h&r pardner pump
the only difference is the hump(purely cosmetic) and the rollmark its also chinese

>>31867767
the chinese thing is already mentioned, but are the parts still interchangeable? that a noteworth plus

>>31867557
I will say this. You won't get much for thanks, but A LOT of people will benefit from your work.

>>31866333
Sccy cpx2's are double stack, not single stack

Source: I own one

>>31867792
good to know, will change

>>31867784
i mean its literally made in the same factory.
the parts compatibility between the hawk and pardner is 100%. both are rebranded norinco
in canada they are known as dominion arms

>>31867678
PPS M2 has a button style release, comfortable as fuck. With FFL fees, S&H, and tax, I paid about $500 for a PPS M2 LE (came with extra mag and night sights). Would recommend.

>>31867825
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/no-description-available-010633015180.do?sortby=ourPicksAscend&refType=&from=fn
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/interstate-arms-hawk-model-982-pump-action-shotgun-12-gauge-185-barrel-3-chamber-5-rounds-polymer-stock-matte-black-finish-ghost-ring-sights-982-845503000016.do?sortby=ourPicks&refType=&from=fn
https://www.canadaammo.com/product/detail/dominion-arms-grizzly-shotgun-12-5-w-ghost-ring-sights/
the dominion arms guns have the correct rem 870 magtube size and are 100% clones

all are the same gun the company that makes them is http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/ch/hawk-pump-e.html

fun fact h&r was bought out by marlin, marlin got bought by remshit, remshit is owned by Cerberus/freedom.
thanks to remshits decline in quality the imported knockoffs actually function better at a fraction of the price

>>31867150
Is the resolution so poor that you can't read the writing? I can't and I don't know if it's my phone or the photo

>>31867150
PSA is a very popular company for budget ARs and parts, but their security is fucking terrible. Many people have had their credit card info stolen in the last year.

>It still says >2015

>>31867950
its your phone, i have the same problem

>>31867789

I'll save some of the recommendations from this thread to a wordpad file and add them to the list some other time. I don't have time to work on it right now.

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Add the RIA M5 to shotguns

>About $250
>Smooth as fuck action
>Reliable enough
>Looks pretty nice for being so cheap

>Kind of hard to find
>No aftermarket

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>>31868125

>Kind of hard to find

Debatable, I guess. Every Big 5 I've walked in to has at least one of the things taking up rack space.

They are nice, though--based off the old High Standard Flite King and yeah, come with an action smooth as glass.

>>31868176
Ya, I see them all the time at Big 5, but isn't Big 5 only on the west coast? Does anyone else carry them?

>>31867678
Do you have a higher res version? My phone just makes it pixelated.

>>31867678
>>31868125
Seconding the RIA M5, fucking phenomenal shotgun for $200 bucks.

>>31868308
It's your phone, works fine for me.

>>31866333
Anybody have a good suggestion on a cheap .22 handgun? I have a few higher powered ones, I just want to pick up a cheap range gun that isnt a complete piece of shit so i can teach my gf how to shoot

>>31868376
base model ruger mkiii or browning buckmark.
all the lookalike guns like the mosquito, p22, or any 22lr 1911 are all crap.

the sw victory seems good but i dont have any experience with one

>>31868394
Thanks man, ill look into those.
My brother has a mosquito and fucking hates it, plus I think he overpaid for it in the first place.

>>31868376
The cheapest semiauto .22 worth a shit is the Beretta Neos for ~$300. I've shot my buddies before, it shoots fine and looks like a space gun. If you want to go super cheap, single action revolvers can be had for less than $200.

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>>31868376

The Ruger handguns chambered in 22 are all excellent.

I have an SR22 and a MKIII and they both run like dreams.

>>31868421
Yeah I'd come across that... It looks a little gimmicky but if it shoots well thats all i really care about.
>>31868424
I'm thinking the SR22 is the frontrunner now
Thanks guys.

is the difference between 9mm and .380 that noticeable for something like home defense?

>>31866698
sub2000 in .40 are cheapish

>>31867699
Posting poorAliveFag.pdf in a poorDeadFag.pdf thread. You are wasting your time chap.

>>31867522

Huh? I see Mosin, 10/22 and SKS

Just bought my mossman 500 and God damn the erection I had

>>31867678
STOP REPEATING "Where to buy" OVER AND OVER.
Just have one to consolidate them

My Recommendations:
>Less space for shotgun accessories, not necessary compared to more guns. Also, it's throwing all the spacing off
>more rifles
>Why only shotgun accessories but no rifle accessories?
>Most space and biggest selection should be for Rifles. That is top priority. Move all the shit underneath the M&P15 under the pistols or, like I said, optimize the "Where to Buy" shit
>More rifles
>You're telling me out of Sir Fudd's entire collection of under $300 bolties from Dick's, there's only one that's good?
>More Bolties
>MORE RIFLES
>Get rid of the "AR Build" secction. That's for another infograph

>>31866333
Put Uberti black powder revolvers on there. I get that they're outdated but they can be had for <$400

>>31867445
Source on the top right picture?

Heritage Rough Riders are decent and they start at 170-200 dollars.

>>31866597
Its a PAP pistol not a Draco numnuts

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>>31867357
>British cop
>wears urban camoflauge in urban setting
>American cop
>wears rural camoflauge in urban setting

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>>31867678
Canik TP9SA/SF is also a good choice for a well made budget handgun.

>>31871549
Bump, really need this.

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>>31867150
>Ruger LCP
>CZ83
>Zastava M70a
>Fixed EAA Windicator and Kahr CT45 prices
Thanks Anon

>>31872195
Christ, those are cops?

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>>31867358
>mfw CAfags get SKS and us MAfags don't because of new semi auto ban

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>>31867678
MAfag edition ;_;

>>31867678
>>31873308

Speaking of cheap pistols, how does the S&W SD9VE perform? I'm in need of a semi-budget pistol that doesn't look like fucking ass like the Hi-Points.

>>31873686
The original SD9s were shit, but the VE models are actually pretty good. Basically S&W's version of a Glock

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>>31873308
just gonna leave this image fellow MA fag

>>31873308
Hi-Points, SCCY, Bersa, Kel-Tec, EAA, RIA, CZ, and the Kahr in .45 aren't MA compliant, so get rid of those too.

>>31868318
iPhone 6s+ still blurry.

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>>31873246
This, why the fuck is it cheaper and easier to drive to Canada get a license (don't actually need to be resident) and get an SKS in fucking Canada than it is in Massachushits.

>>31867497
It looks cool, but I get the feeling electrical tape is going to make a big fucking mess on that barrel once it gets a few shots through it.

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>>31873806
How do I disobey a 5 year jail sentence and a dead pupper?

>>31867358
>Bryco Arms went into bankruptcy in 2003 as a result of losing a lawsuit filed in Oakland, California, which resulted in a jury award of a record $24 million judgment against it. The lawsuit stemmed from an injury to a 12-year old who was attempting to unload the 380 ACP version of the Bryco Arms Model 38 and pulled the trigger with a round still in the gun. An ensuing accidental discharge resulted in paralyzing a young boy named Brandon Maxfield. The jury ruled that the pistol had a design flaw, in that it had to have the trigger pulled to de-cock the striker after unloading the semi-automatic pistol.

WHAT THE FUCK.

I have a question and I don't feel like starting a new thread
Since I'm under 21 and can't buy a handgun, I can buy the Hi-Point 995TS rifle (legally) right?
But I can't buy handgun ammo (legally, again) yet still own the rifle?
What the fuck

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>>31873840
W-Wait, I can't get the Kahr CT45?..
Why the fuck not? Are you sure?

>>31874146
Also, forgot to mention that I live in Commiefornia

>>31874157
http://www.ruger.com/search/state_ma/pistol
The LCP isn't on this list. Then again, no .380 pistols are, not sure if it's MA approved or not.

>>31874157
idk about the kahr but remember the 10 round magazine ban. (yes even for internal magazines)

>>31874157
Kahr PM9, PM40, and maybe the P45, but I haven't actually seen one around. All of the MA versions have thumb safeties. And their budget CT/CM series are not MA compliant.

Oh, additionally the only FN handguns approved are the FNX series, and those just got approved last week. So remove that FNS too and enjoy your stay in MA.

>>31874146
Fuck you.

Don't forget to enlist though. But no drinking, either.

Did I mention Fuck You?

t. government

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>>31874204
>>31874212
>Enjoy your stay
Was born here ;_;

>>31874182
You are correct, the LCP isn't approved in MA. If someone wants a .380 in MA they can get a Beretta 84FS or 85FS, a Sig p238, a Sig p232, a Walther PPK(or /S), a Walther PK380, or a S&W Bodyguard.

Or a Glock 42 if you build it, but that option is going away soon too.

>>31867150
Replace EAA Windicator with FEG P9M Hi Power clone.

>>31874051
you only go to jail if you're caught

92s' can be had for right around $300 at the moment. You could do a lot worse.

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>>31867699
this desu

>ctrl+f "p64"
>0 of 0
>ctrl+f "makarov"
>0 of 0
Feels bad man

>>31875407
see
>>31866800

>>31875407
this desu

>tfw not 21
>tfw big daddy government says I can die for my country but not protect myself

i just want to buy slavshit ;-;

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>tfw donald trump actually manages to win and you now have a basement full of shitty surplus guns that you thought were going to be stolen by lizard-bureaucrats

>>31867362
Ex-dragoon OoOoOoOoOo

>>31867699
This. These guides are such crap.

>>31875591
>tfw she DOES actually win and you have an extra source of outcome.

Also, would it be bad for me to buy a Hi Point just because? Gun shop is selling them for $150 and I'm looking for a beater to use for a truck gun.

>>31876201
lol meant income.

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>>31868376
Find a Rohm Gmbh Model 66.
Literal 20 to 60$ revolver, comes with a cylinder for 22lr, and 22 mag. Look's like a Colt SAA, made in germany, was the only decent, or rather semi decent, hand gun this company made. Me and dad have one, we put a bit over 100 rounds through it no cleaning, no jams, and no weird malfunctions, it's loud. So, if you REALLY don't want to spend alot of money, there's that. Oh, one thing, it's single action, with an ejector rod.

Hey found an Enfield no4 MkI for $450, that a good deal? I don't know shit about Enfield pricing.

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>>31876604

A bit pricey and the ammo is a bitch to find, but if you love history it's definitely a must-have for your collection.

Though to put things in perspective, that's about the market price for SKS's right now, so perhaps if you're looking for a reliable semiauto, it's a solid alternative.

>>31873246
That's what you get for supporting literal communist tyrants with your tax dollars.

Vote with your feet or quit fucking complaining. I bet you vote democrat every four years and then bitch when the constitution stops being used in court. On second thought, stay the fuck in California. Nobody wants your stupid ass.

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>>31877337
This is my first voting year, I'm 21.
Voted Rubio and all Republicans I could,
and then voted Trump and all the republicans I could today.
Fuck off.

>>31867497
>electrical tape

IT WILL MELT AND GET SHITTY DO NOT DO DIS

>>31876201
Its always bad to buy a hi point

>>31878045
no its not you just fell for the memes. hipoints are pretty durable and reliable if you stick to fmj and keep the mags clean. they certainly arent great but at 100-150 dollars they are about the only choice for mega poorfags

Poorfag nogunz here

What do you think about the SAR B6P?

>>31874555
Is a Mosin Nagant the easiest rifle to get, anywhere?

>>31866835
Honestly, there's nothing inherently wrong with .40
My dad swears by it, and he prefers shooting it over 9mm. He also reloads, so that negates the cost aspect and allows him to use some pretty hot hand loads.

>>31879556
Same MAfag, there's a 91/30 in a shop less than a mile from me. $275

Bump in hopes that >>31867678 isn't as far as we got in terms of updating it.

bump for finshing

>>31867497
No. Stop it. This is a bad idea.

>>31866835
.40 tended to be more available for me during the panic in '13.

Poorfag needing advice here.

I'm utterly, horribly broke, but I want a CCW gun. The 2 cheapest available at my local cheap firearms dealer in anything bigger than .22 are the Jimenez .380 ($119) and the hipoint CF-380 ($150).

Online options are all off the table because the FFL fee would make it cost more. Yes, I am keeping an eye on used ones but the selection is not good around here.

The question is, is the Hipoint better enough than the Jimenez to justify the extra $30? And is it too bulky to be concealed? Everyone seems pretty divided on that. I'm a pretty small guy.

>>31868376
Walther P22 is cheap as hell but it's also straight shit, damn near dangerous if your GF doesn't know how to handle malfunctions.

>>31885947
The hipoint will not explode in your hand. They are ugly, single-stack, and big.

But they are a weapon you can certainly depend your life on.

>>31867497
Lol wtf you can get a flashlight barrel mount for fucking $5.

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>>31866333
There is so much going on in this picture you included that it is distracting me from the useful information. Why does he have a shirt with a crane on it? Why does he only have one zucchini and 9 squash? What is that cat doing?

>>31885947
Hi Point is Eons ahead of the Jimenez. You probably would want to wear heavy or baggy clothes to avoid printing.

>>31866333
Classic has some trade in 92s' for 320ish

>>31866333
We honestly just need to make an AR building and/or buying flowchart.

>>31866333
The Baikal 12 gauge is banned from import.

>>31872227
This, I second the Turkroach pistol

Pros:
>outstanding trigger pull and reset, especially for the price
>comes with 18-round magazines, easy to find and made by Mecgar.
>Quite accurate for a 300-350 dollar gun
>Used by Turkish Law Enforcement personnel and Mad Max characters in the Levant
>VERY reliable, especially for the price. Can be chunked across the range several times without breaking.
>EASY AF to disassemble
>Very low-maintenance. Clean it once every 300 rounds and you're okay.

Cons:
>Built by Turkroaches, proceeds possibly go to support terrorism
>The Cerakoting is shit-tier. It is easily scratched away from being dropped/ thrown out of a fucking vehicle
>For the first 200 rounds, the weapon may not go fully into battery, until it is broken in.

>>31888067
Also for cons

>Cannot CC, too bulky unless its winter innaNorth.

>>31886339
The "big" is my hang-up. Is it too big for a small person to conceal?

>>31886867
>>31886339
Is there anything I could do to make the Jimenez not shit? Modifications or improvements? I've never worked on guns before but I'm pretty good with most work with small tools

>>31888067
I have the V2 and have actually noticed the opposite with the "not going fully into battery issue" It ran great for the first 200 rounds and after that is when I started to get light primer strikes, but since that first start happening it has lessened. I'm really hoping it'll go away eventually.

>>31888085
I've been able to get away with IWB 6:30-7:00 carrying my V2 with just a tshirt and jeans, although sitting down and bending over cause printing fairly easily.

>>31885947
Go to a pawn shop and get a gun there.

>>31889305
Am I likely to find something under $150 that's not a .22?

>>31890190
Hi-Point.

Yes, they are huge
Yes, they are plastic
Yes, they are ugly
Yes, they are gangsta
Yes, the mags need tweaking

BUT,
They are made in America.
The guarantee transfers with the gun and they have a great customer service record.
They come in .380, .40, 9mm, .45
They shoot straight and are work horses.
Look up Hi-Point pistols on YouTube and all the big name channels review them and cannot get mad at them.

>>31888666
they are pretty bulky. the .380 is probably the most managable one and I guess you could cc it, might be a little awkward. they are solid options though

>>31890190
Most likely. You could possibly come across >>31876566
But pawn shops are very different from one another, you'll just have to go down there yourself.

>>31890796
You don't have to convince me that they don't suck. I've read and watched reviews, and I won't turn my nose up at an ugly cheap gun if it's reliable.

My problem with it is that I'm afraid it's too bulky for me to conceal.

>>31867150
Version where the text is actually legible?

>>31892678
Get off your phone. I can read it fine on a computer.

>>31874146
Order 9mm from a website. SGammo for example.

It's their only chance to cosplay.

>>31873060
Yep. Thanks to the war on drugs we have this now.

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>>31866835
Half of /k/ doesn't know shit about firearms or is too busy spreading memes. .40 is proven to have a deeper and wider wound channel than both .45 and 9mm. It's best of both worlds, combining decent mag capacity, semi-cheap ammo, and the stoppin' powah meme that fudds claim .45 has.

>Just carry 10mm and be able to kill everything on Earth

>>31866895

My M11/9 has close to 50k rounds through it without killing me yet.

>>31867389
>Poorfag here. The bit about Saturday night specials blowing up in your hand is utter bullshit. I've got a phoenix hp22 and I shoot it all the time. Never even jammed.

Because you got a good one doesn't mean the next person will. Some bryco and Jennings weren't even headspaced.

>>31868308

Put your phone in landscape mode then click the picture.

>>31876566
>$40 for a .22
>$95.87 bid for .38 special
Holy crap you weren't joking.

just bought two magazines that I hope are comptable with my taurus 9mm pt 92, now I have three that can hold 18 rounds. Then like 100 rounds.

am I safe for the upcoming riots and PANIC so far? how much more do I need. pls donut let me b kill

>>31876566
What's the catch?
Is it cursed or something? If I clean it too much will it melt on me?

>>31894200
>Half of /k/ doesn't know shit about firearms or is too busy spreading memes. .40 is proven to have a deeper and wider wound channel than both .45 and 9mm.
[citation needed]

All the terminal ballistic reports I've read state there's around 2% difference in the big 4 when modern hollow points are used. Should you wish to pursue this you can call the guys at B&T ballistics.

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>>31867678

Why no Ruger LCR?

>>31866777
PSA > Del Ton all day long

>>31867150
>>31867972

PSA is actually pretty solid stuff, especially or the price. Definitely top tier poor fag funs.

>>31874007
because your state is shit m8

>>31894641

Beretta mags don't fit PT 92.

>>31894689
>muh burden of proof
I'll bite.

.40 has:
>larger perm wound channel, temp wound channel comparable to .45 (as shown in earlier comment)
>cheapest .40 (25¢) ammo is
7¢ a round more expensive than the cheapest 9mm (18¢), 16¢ less expensive than .45 (41¢) going off ammo sellers online), so poorfags can rejoice.
>mediator in size, weight, recoil, price (as shown above)
>near immediate adoption amongst some police agencies
>shootability is comparable to 9mm, super weak wristed women and manlets who need more practice BTFO
Name a more suitable handgun round for self-defense
>inb4 hollow points, and ignoring .40 HP

WEEEEEEEEEEELL IT LOOKS LIKE THE GUN LIST WONT BE GETTING UPDATED ANYTIME SOON, ESPECIALLY IN THIS THREAD.

Oh well. I'll just put this thread up tomorrow and hope it goes just as well as this one.
At least we got 3 new updates to the guide.

>>31895314
Betetta guy here

Old 92S mags should fit a pt92, as Taurus bought the old Beretta equipment and didn't change anything. That said, i can't confirm with first-hand knowledge.

>>31895314
Beretta guy again, meant 92 plural, not 92S version.

>>31866698
taurus judge/public defender

>>31873246
Kek. There's finally a nogunz state more cucked than my own.

>replaced Charter Arms revolver with Iver Johnson because Charter Arms is a jamal nig tier company
>replaced the lyman trade rifle with surplus Mausers because 350 dollars is way too much money for a poorfag to be spending on a single shot blackpowder gun and the description literally said that the original creator just put it there as a placeholder
>replaced the CZ 83 with the P64 because they're cheaper (it is a poorfag's guide) and easier to find

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>>31896761
Shit, forgot pic.

Think we should consider replacing all raifus over 550 and all handguns over 450 with different guns, it's supposed to be a poorfag guide.

>>31866777
Checked. Lucky sevens senpai

>>31886863
He was squash hunting, that's his trusty hunting cat.

God damn newfags lurk more.

>likes freedom
>buys soviet weapons
why are ameriblobs so fucking stupid?

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>>31897797

>Buying our Cold War enemies weapons and using them for our own amusement.

What greater symbol of our victory could there be?

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>>31866333
Should add surplus 92S to poorfag guns. $319.

>>31896775
>Iver Johnson lemon squeezers
>A good idea
>Ever

My local gun store has like 10 of them, and every single one is primed to send hot shards of metal through your hand if you tried to shoot them with their worn out locks and shit timing.

Meanwhile I have never had a single issue with my Charter Arms Off-Duty. I know they've supposedly taken a dive since the 70's (when mine was made), but there's no way they're worse than 100 year old lemon-squeezer pocket grenades.

If you really, really think modern Charter Arms are straight up unsafe to fire, leave the spot blank, don't tell people to buy something that's going to take them forever to find ammo for just so that they can lose their fingers to it.

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>>31866333
What are the cheapest yet best full size MA compliant firearms?
I can get a S&W Bodyguard 380 but it'd barely fight two fingers.
Caliber doesn't matter I just want a big gun for fun shooting.

>>31897862
Add tax, shipping and FFL transfer fee, and remember you only get one mag. It's actually a shit deal, tobeH.

>>31897976
>Barely fight two fingers
fit* but with the size I can imagine it fighting them as well.

>>31896775
I think you updated the unupdated one.
Here's the most recently updated one >>31867678
If you don't feel like updating that one I'll just add the guns you added to this one without removing any already updated guns.

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>>31867699
Will provide proper edit.
Post info, anons.

>>31899319
If you do edit it, at least edit the most recent update (this one >>31867678)

>>31896775 fucked up by editing the original pic. Now I'm working on getting >>31867678 updated with the guns that >>31896775 added in but keeping all the guns that others have added too.

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Are 5906's still a bargain?

>>31901710
Short answer: Yes

Long answer: Why the hell haven't you gotten one yet while they're still cheap and no one gives a fuck about them?

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>>31897935

seconded, i don't have an iver johnson, but something similar to pic related. try and actually see if you can get any penetration with 32 s&w.

>in b4 caliber complaints

odd facts about the 32 s&w. - There are black powder loads for them. Also, was one of the first police cartridges accepted, it was even at its inception considered to be the bare minimum in stoppin powah

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