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Maybe when the shit fest in the Middle East dies down. It's surplus, it's the nature of the beast, should have bought it when it was available.

>>31860700
It will never go down in price. Spam can surplus is drying up and new manufacture ammo is the same price as 7,62x51. Coupled with the price of the "legendary" mosin nagant being on average over $300, it is no longer the cheap to shoot bargain cartridge it was a decade ago.

I feel sorry if you bought a x54r vepr though

>when will prices for a finite, appreciating consumable be lower than they are now
never

>>31860719
>I feel sorry if you bought a x54r vepr though

Exactly why i bought a Vepr in .308. The gun was cheaper, 20 round double stack mags and ammo is the same price lol suck it x54r fags

>>31860747
thats my current plan

>>31860700
The "good old days" of cheap surplus is gone, just accept it and move on

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What shotgun do I want?

>$500 or less, less is better.
>pump action
>rugged wood furniture, see pic
>at least 3+1, more is better

>>31860700
Spam can ammo costs 225 euros for 880 rounds in the Netherlands.


Also a quick question:
What red dot scopes are reasonably cheap but will still work (handle the recoil) on a 357 revolver?

>>31860821
Mossberg 500 or Remington 870

>>31860799
This pretty much for all surplus I'm finding out. Unfortunately.

>>31860821
Ithica 37
Get your it ain't me on

My parents didnt want me to buy a gun because they wanted me to save my money. Dad is jot anti gun. Mom is anti me owning a gun. So i bought a gun. I am in college now and live about 2 hours away from them now but in dorm so i cant keep it with me. They dont know i own it. Bro knows about it, how to use it, how to be safe with it. A few of my friends have told me that i am being irresponsible leaving a gun there without my parents knowledge of it. Parents think what is in the gun bag is an airsoft gun. My friends think that my dad will go to use it or something and shoot someont thinking its airsoft. But he knows the difference between a fucking 5.56 and a bb. So does mom. Both are very educated people. Also none of them airsoft. Or even go in my room. Am i really irresponsible. Sorry for long ass post.

>>31860954
>inb4 retarded parents

>>31860954
If your parents are as smart as you say they are, they probably already know it's not an airsoft gun. At the very least they should suspect it's a real gun.

>>31860719
I still see spam cans for 140.
I see Tula ammo 7.62x54r for 11.00 bucks and ppu brass for 14.14 that's still cheaper than any 308 I have seen

>>31860983
They have seen my real airsoft gun but have not ever actually laid eyes on my rifle. Airsoft gun is dessert tan, rifle is black.

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How are you people so good at identifying guns from just a pic in profile?

Sure, I can ID an AR or an AK or a HK 91 clone no problem, but I see people calling out things like Finnish Mauser clones when most turn of the century military bolt actions all look the same.

Teach me your ways master!

>>31861037
It takes years of studying. Not even joking.

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>>31861037

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>>31861339
>She
thats real fucking gay.

>>31861399
Bruh she didn't look, act, smell, or sound (other than moaning) like a man, and I wasn't about to get my dick sucked if I called her "him," so she and her it is. Also the way everything was feminine on her, it would have been more work to call her a him on purpose anyway, so fuck it, if they manage to look like a female, they have earned the she and her

As far as being gay goes, i know it isnt completely straight, but fuck it, i'll claim to be bi if it means I get to fuck traps guilt free

>>31861339
>but once my cock was in her she sounded like a gay dude

Poor girl, probably can't help it either. I don't do it consciously, but I sound like a stereotypical anime slut when I'm getting fucked.

>>31861479
Honestly i feel pretty bad for being so bothered by it at first because yeah she obviously was self conscious about that sort of thing so i wasnt going to bring it up and make her feel bad, she is a sweet girl.

>>31861497
She's probably in to kink, maybe you should try a ball gag.

>>31860821
You can get a mossman 590a1. It takes standard wood without any modifications. Basically your pic related

>>31861471
First off
>She
Its he, he has a dick. you fucked a guy with a dick and when he started to sound like a guy getting fucked you realized she was a he and you are a faggot. If you cant get you dick sucked by a him, but can if you call him a her just means not only are you a literal faggot, you are a figurative faggot who isnt willing to accept his faggotry. Your gay, hes gay, your dicks touched get over it. Next time you meet and you have your dick in his ass and you suck his tiny twink dick and you think to yourself, "yeah this is gay" accept it. Cause your a faggot.

>>31861471
A chicken is roughly the same size shape and weight of a duck, but a chicken is most certanly non a duck, regardles of what the chicken thinks. If it has a y chromosome, it is male,. If you are into fucking dudesthats your perogative. Just don't tey to pretty nd it's not exactly what it is.

>>31861549
Fucking mobile autocorrect bullshit, you know what I mean.
just don't try to pretend it's something it's not. It's bad for both of you.

>>31860719
>This
Even if the limits on imports are released and the stocks that are held are sold off en-masse, the sellers are now very much aware that demand has skyrocketed in the US and will price their product to be just below new production ammo.
Again the time of cheap surplus ammo is over. You where born about a decade too late.

>>31861538
Get fucked faggot. Like i said you will have to endure more mental gymnastics to justify calling someone who is obviously a cute girl "him" than just treating her the way she presents herself (and quite well i might add)

At some point you are just going to look like a literal autist muttering things about muh chromosomes just to prove to everyone how not gay you are.

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>>31861538
You sure are a massive autist, anon.

>>31860995
Just keep all magazines unloaded too. When nothing can be loaded quickly they literally MUST touch a bullet.

>>31861601
Do thye have a dick? Then they are a he. There arent a billion bullshit genders its that fucking simple. I couldnt give a shit if your gay or not. But literally fucking a guy who literally has a dick and then claiming your not gay is the only part about this that involves mental gymnastics. Just be gay and at peace with it, but fucking dudes then going on the internet to shit post about how you arent gay is pretty fucking gay, man.

>>31861601
>>31861660
Samefag much?

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>>31861676

I'm looking to buy a matching caliber lever gun and revolver

What is best?

>>31861695
.45-70

>>31861685
Ah yes, the old use your phone and your pc to samefag. very smart.

>>31861695
.45-70 or nothing.

>>31861704
>>31861685
Heyyyyy looky there my idea about the bullets made it on

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>>31861704
Right, because it's impossible for there to be more than one poster who doesn't share your narrow and rigid view of the world and language.

>>31861756
Its not that narrow or rigid, i mean theres an entire gay subculture devoted to what you are describing, twinks and hunks. you get off fucking twinks and being a hunk, its straightforward power fantasy in fact. the fact your getting so offended about it is pretty funny. You like fucking effeminate men, sugercoating it or going through metnal gymnastics to prove you arent gay is just cause your a repressed self hating faggot. And I mean that in the most serious sense, not as a slur. Cause seriously bruh, like textbook example up in this.

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>>31861793
>twinks are the same thing as transsexuals

Holy shit you know nothing

>>31861676
No one here said there were a billion genders. That tumblr shit is a different issue and it makes trans people look bad.

Also, why does this bother you so much? I guarantee if you saw me and her together on the street you wouldn't know she was trans.

Also not samefag, more like hivemind. Sperg out more pls

>>31861811
>>31861807
More same fagging, but ill talk to both of you, Your a homosexual, you fuck men. Ill even clarify, you fucked a person who physically has a penis, in the asshole. that is the definition of male gay sex. you have and will continue to do so. Im not even salty, you can do whatever you want, but being a faggot about it and claiming you arent is bullshit. I dont care what you call it, or what he calls it, your both gay. if he actually loses the dick, your still both gay. its 2016, you need to get over it and just be faggots together.

>>31861793
I goong to agree with this dude. We are cool with you fucking dudes, that's not what we are criticizing. What we have a problem with is that you are trying to deny and justify it into something else.
Do you really want a relationship vased on denial and justification? Just admit that it it what it is. If you are cool with fucking a male human go with it. If you are not, either get that way or stop doing it. Don't just pretend he is really a girl and hope that your cognative dissonance magically goes away.

>>31860821
Is there a place I can get wood furniture on a Persuader? That pump grip us what I like most. Ribbed for pleasure.

>>31861842
There is andifference between being gay, i.e. a man who prefers romantic and sexual partners who are also men, being bisexual, i.e. being a person who enjoys romantic and sexual partners of both sexes, and being a transsexual, i.e. a person who was born male and wants to be a female or vise versa. Transsexualism is not inherently attached to partner preference since it concerns the self and not preferences in choosing partners. A key part of someone being a transsexual is their experiencing gender dysphoria, a diagnosable mental disorder for which the best treatment available to us is transition. Gay men are happy with being men, trans women are not, which is why they spend thousands of dollars on treatment for their mental disorder.

>>31861921
Still gay, and since the original anon is still trying to to espost he is super straight totally no homo, he is in fact a faggot, literally and figuratively. The tranny hes fucking isnt even what im talking about, but the original anon is in fact, a huge faggot.

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Today on /k/ I learned:
If you are a guy and you like fucking people with dicks you are NOT gay. When do we petition Merriam-Webster to change their definition?

>>31861947
I'd say he's bisexual, not gay, since he clearly isn't exclusively attracted to people with male secondary sex characteristics.

>>31861958
Don't you try and gender me, cis-scum.

>>31862029
He is a huge gaybo, but thats not my point anymore, now he is just a huge self hating faggot for fighting it so much. Aside from his sexual preferences that anon is in fact a faggot for acting like he does and going through mental gynastics to prove hes super straight no homo.

Why are there never any rimfire / 10/22 threads? Why does everyone get a nugget for their first rifle?

In my experience, everyone who grows up with firearms starts out shooting .22s and 410s and after learning core skill sets moves on from there. Not to mention, it can be an incredibly entertaining experience, and not worrying about over-penetration is a benefit in itself.

Also, what is with all of the weird slavic worship, sometimes expressed through anime?

>>31860700
Whats the difference between 7.62X39 and 7.62X54 and others?
Do they all fit in my 7.62 AK?

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>>31860700
>When will 7.62x54r be back to the good old days if ever?
When Trump is elected and makes peace with our new Russian overl... Trade partners.

>>31862097
You're really going to try to fit a 54mm radius inside a 39mm barrel?

1,800,273,825.5

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>>31862081
>asking why slavaboos are a thing on a anime forum.
Same reason weeaboos are a thing, or why there are jap westaboos, other cultures appeal to filthy neckbeards who dont fit in.
>>31862097
7.62 is the slug diameter (hopefully), x39 or x54 are the case length in mm. They will definately not all fit in your ak, if you jammed in a 7.62 x54r and somehow fired it it wouldnt kill your barrel, but i have no idea how it would fit. Pic related, from lefft to right, 7.62x54r, 7.62x39, 7.62x39 loaded with a slug form a x54r round, and then just teh slugs fro a x39 and a x54r

>>31861339
Why am I hard all of a sudden?

>>31862125
That's not what the 54 means, dipshit.

>>31862128
Not trolling, but this is a weapons forum. As far as I know, /a/ is the anime forum here. Is it just because Japan doesn't have a military? What is the appeal of slavic culture? Why is it admired over other regions, western/northern europe, S. America, Africa, etc?

>>31862029
This.

Like i said i'd say i'm bi even tho the only dicks I would couch are feminine trans penises, but these autists are still getting triggered by my happiness.

>>31862054
You are the one wasting time online trying to prove some imaginary level of gayness attained by an anonymous person you have never met.

>>31862154
4chan, not being an anime forum site. Look man if you want a weapons forum there are so many others, you come on 4chan you get anime. same reason why t b h and f a m are coded to put out desu and senpai.

>>31862169
go post your fag threads ob /b/ faggot, your proving nothing defending your heterosexuality or lack therof on /k/.

I got two quick questions that involve a mosin.

1-Earlier, me and a buddy were shooting. I shot a 5 round stripper clip, then he did. We weren't counting our shots, just shooting till it clicked.

He finished his stripper clip and a few min later I loaded another up for me. I sent the bolt forward and heard a 22 sounding pop. I looked down and a small amount of smoke came out of the chamber.

I guess his last shot was a light primer strike, and the bolt didn't extract the cartridge. But when I sent a fresh cartridge into the chamber, it struck the primer hard enough to set it off. The odd thing is that while the primer went off, it didn't ignite the powder.

I guess my question is, is it usual for primers to go off, but not powder.

2-Does Tula 54r cause your mosins bolt to stick? We shot 20 Tula rounds, and about 20 surplus rounds. About 16-17 of the Tula's required us to smack the bolt free, the surplus was smooth like butter.

Do 54r veprs beat themselves to death?
I was wanting a 54r or 5.45 vepr since my wasr shit the bed but i dont want to have to keep buying replacement parts because the 54r is too much for the gun.

>>31860954
You need to grow up and become a responsible adult, and to learn to say "no" to your parents. It's their fault that they didn't teach you to do that, but it's now up to you to correct it.

And if you violate dorm rules about not having guns on campus, you're a dickhead setting yourself for a disaster when (not if) it comes out. Grow up and store it at local gun range for a nominal price.

>>31862189
The real question is why are NEETs and weebs so defensive and antisocial?

>>31862260

they are supposedly hard on extractors the .308 seems to hold up better for some reason

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How difficult is it to caliber convert bolt guns.

Calibers in question
6.5x54 Mannlicher Schoenauer --> 6.5 Creedmoor.

I know the dimensions of the rounds are damn near close. Like scary close, what's the way to go about this.

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>>31862293
6.5 Creedmoor for comparison

>>31862287
I'll probably get the 5.45 then or save up and get an arsenal in it. I was wondering why getting extractors in was worth a post on vepr.org.

>>31862097
No difference real difference unless you reload, and yes they all fit in your ak

>>31862304
They are nowhere close.
Different oal
Different bolt face.

You'd need a new bolt face and barrel at least. Just get a new rifle

>>31862452
RIP in peace
Thanks, anon

Bought a Champion brand bipod today at walmart for $40.
Got home and ready to install it, and it looks like it's missing the locking arms that go through my sling swivel and attaches the bipod to the rifle.

Is this something that I'm going to have to buy seperately, or was this supposed to be included?
Gonna take it back and trade it for another one next time I'm in town.

>>31862097
Depending on your barrel you might have to modify your AK. x54 has more space for powder when you need a more powerful round. x39 ballistics only offer an effective range to ~300 yards, but with considerable (9-10") drop. x54 was developed for longer rifles (see Mosin Nagant) to offer competitive ballistics to German cartridges. This modification is best performed by a gunsmith, call around for the best pricing.

tldr; if you're willing to spend the extra $200 it offers dual cartridge capability (which NATO enjoys with the ARs 5.56/.223 capability) and expands the usefulness of the rifle. AKs used to be cheap, so nobody took them seriously, but it's 2016 and it's harder to afford an exclusive x39 and an exclusive x54, just like nobody gets an AR in exclusive .223

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What would it take to get a Lee Enfield styler rifle in 7.62x39, preferably taking AK mags

Honestly, 100% I would buy American made 54 rimless along with Russian made 54r, because in my personal opinion, there is nothing more important than reliability.

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Will there ever be new production M1895s?

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Is the vepr in 308 a good rifle objectively, and do any anons that have shot/own one like it?

>>31862610
I was able to get mine done for $150 at my LGS

>>31860994
where do you see spam cans for $140? They don't exist anymore dog

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Can officers/NCO's bring swords into combat?

Trading a Ruger LCP for a 10/22

Good deal?

What a good, cheap, rimfire scope for a Marlin 60?

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>>31860700
How much is too much in today's market for a 1945 M44 with no obvious damage, all matching serials and a not great, but still decent barrel?

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Is this a decent purchase? Aguila for plinking, Federal Premium for defense?

I don't know too much about ammo. I mostly shoot Winchester FMJ target ammo. I have Remington UMC JHPs in my Home Defense mag right now, but I've heard from some people it can jam up, and it does leave my feed ramp dirty as fuck.

>>31863657
Two totally different guns. I would honestly just save up and get the 10/22 so you can have both. Unless you really hate your LCP

>>31863630
that is a cavalry saber, dumshit.

>>31860954
Keep it in a trunk of your car or ask if you can store it with the parents either that or dissasemble lube pvc and burry.
Idk nigga go look up the murder cube files.

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>>31862147
Welcome to /k/ faggot.

What is the cheapest place, besides eBay, to buy bulk .50 Cal ammo cans. Looking to sort 5k rounds each of 9mm, 5.56, and 7.62. I'd prefer something around $10-$12 per can with minimal rust, if possible.

Is the displacement of a ship the same as its total weight?

>>31863964
I paid 250 for my 1945 izzy m44 back in June however the barrel was pristine

>>31862659
Why not just get an SKS that can take AK mags?

>>31865573
http://www.jgsales.com/ammo-can,-50cal,-usgi,-steel,-used.-p-81.html

>>31860723

>Implying trade with russia is sanctioned

>Implying 54r surplus was coming from russia

wew

>>31865741
Trade in arms with Russia is heavily sanctioned though, even if much of the surplus came from outside Russia.

>>31865762

It is not heavily sanctioned, kalashnikov concern products are banned, nothing else.

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Is the Ruger lightweight commander a good gun? Thinking about getting one and I like the smaller size so I could carry it if I want to.

>>31860700
Never. You had a chance for a pro gun free trade candidate and the mob chose Trump.

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>>31865850
>free trade
>implying it's a good thing for a nation with overtime laws, a standard workweek, healthcare..etc,etc to compete with slave labour from Bangladesh

>>31865365
I pulled the trigger on it. It was the free shipping coupon I found. Can't turn that shit down.

>>31865606
displacement is based on volume, not weight. weight and buoyancy affect volume.

>>31861588
Thats wrong and denies basic economic principles. If theres a huge surplus of a product being sold by multiple companies the price will be set where supply meets demand. If supply is limited you raise the price until you can make the most off of each unit but low enough that people will still buy. If supply is extremely high for the foreseeable future then you lower the price to move more product.

When 54r is being imported again (could be a long time) theres no reason to believe the price wont go back down. In the meantime, if demand really is that high, a domestic manufacturer will eventually increase production as the price rises and it becomes more profitable

>>31865793
The only point in carrying a1911 if to show it off, as better carry guns exist. If you show of the ruger, well...

>>31866010
I carry a glock 19 normally but I just like to be able to carry the handguns I own. I'm just one of those autists that have to have a "purpose" for a gun. And I don't own a 1911 so it seems like a good one to get.

>>31860954
Your parents just sound like massive cockmongers. If you're an adult, It's YOUR choice to practice your second amendment right. Maybe their views will change when jamal and latravious break in, rob and/or murder them because your dad is too much of a cuck to into self defense. They should just be lucky they raised a son that didn't turn out to be a fucking faggot desu.

>>31863630
Probably (I mean, shit like tomahawks are allowed, as I understand it), but if you're thinking of their dress sabres, those aren't really made to stand up to any sort of real use. They aren't as bad as, say a stainless steel mall-ninja katana, but they still don't have the blade profile to take any sort of impact.

>>31865606
Yes

>>31865998
I don't see 5.56 at 25 cents per

>>31866134
Might have something to do with the fact that theres not a seemingly unlimited amount of low quality 5.56 being sold just to minimize the overall loss of its unnecessary overproduction for 30+ years

>>31865996
Whats a good primer?

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>>31865741
pretty much this.

most of nugget ammo was coming from all over in Eastern Europe, mostly Ukraine...
Now the fascist Ukrainian regime is too busy machine gunning their own people into obedience...


Russia is too busy sending its surplus ammo to Syria these days...


the sad truth is that we wont ever see $69 or even $99 - 440 round spam cans of nugget food in America, ever again.

>>31865683
Is $280 too much for a decent piece? On reexamination the barrel really is fine, not pristine, but definitely good, and everything else is great. I see other M44s of questionable condition selling for well over $300, but I've been here long enough that anything more than $80 feels like a rip-off if I can't get somebody other than the salesman to tell me it isn't.

>>31866051
True, still, their house their rules. If you find it unfair you should find your own place. I'm in a similar situation at the moment, have guns, live at home. Trying to save up some cash and move out soon so I won't be shooting or playing with my funs while the 'rents are home. I don't know if they'd want the guns gone, but I'm choosing not to bring it up or talk about them. When I have my own place I'll leave my guns where I damn well please and anyone who is against that can get the fuck off my property.

Whats the largest blade someone (assuming they're above average strength) could practically use in combat? Both length and weight.

>>31866472
>ukraine guns down its citizens, fascist regime

>russia sending ammo for syrians to gun down their own citizens....?

Cognitive dissodence is crazy. I bet you fell for the 'putin is a good guy' meme.

Is there a ballistic calculator that allows you to input custom information for rounds (i.e case length and diameter as well as the bullet's shape)?

>>31862799
I like shooting the 7.62x54R Vepr (particularly the smooth trigger), though have no idea about how good it is against .308 Vepr. Wouldn't think the feel would be much different just because of the caliber.

But I still hate the idea of giving my money to Russians.

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Whats that sash over his shoulder?

Is it a bandolier, a tent cover? Does it have a name?

>>31868267
it is russian special equip known as a blanket

during the war one blanket was issued per three men

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Question for the thread:

I already have several guns, but I still for some reason have not picked up an "intermediate rifle" aka AR, AK, etc...

I already know what I want as far as gun/setup, but my question is this:

Do I buy everything I can right now before the shitshow of an election and end up with a 7/10 (in my eyes) setup?

Or

Wait until tax season so I can take a portion of that money, a portion of my Christmas bonus, anniversary bonus, and regular savings to purchase my "10/10 setup;" everything I actually want, not settling.

My fear (or hope if you look at it a different way) is that absolutely nothing will change within the next year as far as gun laws go- so if I settle on my purchase and go with (for the sake of example) an $800 gun instead of the $1500 gun, I'll be kicking myself for going cheap(er) instead of waiting.
On the other hand, if I wait and shit gets banned I'm pretty much stuck with the guns I already have or have to pay out the ass.

tl;dr: Should I play into the panic and buy now, even though I wouldn't end up with my "optimal" setup, or wait until next year for more money to become available, only to possibly be cucked by a Hillary presidency/AWB?

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>>31868286
>it is russian special equip known as a blanket
>during the war one blanket was issued per three men

FIRST MAN USES BLANKET

WHEN HE DIES

SECOND MAN PICKS UP BLANKET AND USES IT

Is it normal to see fags wearing their rigs to public ranges? Like I'm sure they get strange looks, but people at least understand why they're doing it, right?

I wanna wear mine while shooting to get comfy, not to practice drills. I'm fine with people thinking I'm a sperg, but I don't want people thinking I shouldn't be there.

Anyone else wear their gear to public ranges? Like full loadout, maybe minus a few details.

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I want to buy a gun but I'm afraid of them. I'm scared I will accidentally shoot myself or someone. My uncle almost shot me once on accident when we were hunting and since then they've really freaked me out. Advice?

>>31868384
>I want to buy a gun but I'm afraid of them. I'm scared I will accidentally shoot myself or someone. My uncle almost shot me once on accident when we were hunting and since then they've really freaked me out. Advice?

Take a safety course where they let you handle firearms. They will teach you how to not shoot yourself, how to load it using inert ammunition and other stuff.

>>31868384

If it's really that bad you can practice Canadian tier, uber-autistic safety procedure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLr-3Am9EMA

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Someone who isn't me has a firearm they were given by a family member. This family member had purchased it from another family member. After this, they don't know where it was from or how it was obtained. This being said, what should this person who has the gun now do to ensure they don't get fucked by the law? Note that this person lives in a state without registration rules and that the gun still has a serial number.

>>31868378
Maybe at outdoor ranges/public land. If you show up at some indoor range with full carrier and shit, you'll probably get looked at like you're a retard. I still don't think you'd get kicked out or anything.

Example of outdoor range shenanigans:
>be years ago
>be me
>bring buddy to public hunting land that has a few birms/backstops for targets
>only have glock 23 at the time
>he has a 10/22 fudd edition
>get bored of stagnant target shooting
>nobody else around
>set up targets at each birm (about 25, 50, and 75yds)
>initiate autism-tier assault/movement live fire drill
>buddy suppresses farther targets with 10/22 while I assault the next birm with my pistol
>tried to take it seriously but it was so obviously dumb we just kept laughing the whole time
>realize that if anyone saw us they'd probably think we were mentally fucked
>leave range
>get on /k/ and have more tactical experience than most of the faggots on here

In sum, you'd be surprised what you can get away with...

>>31868428
We have a small range at a buddies land, but people call the cops all the time because there's a few libtards around us. Cops have been showing up less cause they're super cool and don't mind us there. We just haven't been in a while so the berm is probably fucked up.

Oh well, perhaps another day. I need to look up good outdoor ranges near Charlotte (expecting to have to drive a bit for it.)

>>31868428
I wish I had land for this reason...

The teeth on my backpack have become weak tk the point where running with anything slightly heavy has it open where zip isn't.

It seems the teeth cannot bite anymore. I assume I need a new bag, but are there any tricks to strengthening them.

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Not OP, but back to the original question- Where can I find the cheapest bulk 7.62x39 rounds? I'm looking for non-corrosive, and I don't mind buying 600-1400 rounds.

>>31869458
If the little bumps on the teeth become worn down, they won't hold together any more. (plastic zippers wear like this quick with heavy loads) You'll have to replace the zipper or bag.

>>31865998
You are making the assumption of a truly free market. Combine the pack of real competition with heavy corruption from the source country and you get price gouging.

Where am I supposed to get a sling for an M44? I can only find the ones for the 91/30 and PPSh and I want one that's the correct length.

Redpill me on the p99? Also 9mm or .40?

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Field and Stream has the Savage 11/111 package with Nikon scope in .30-06 for $419 dollarydoos.

Good deal? I have some extra cash laying around and a cheap fudd rifle is appeaaling to me.

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How in the fuck do I use a scope? I know I have to zero it, but I didn't expect all these knobs and shit.

>>31862771
If he is elected, we really need Trump to get rid of the agreement keeping us from importing Russian surplus. Having M1895s in 54r sitting in a warehouse somewhere west of the Urals is one of those bad, awful trade deals that must be renegotiated.

>>31869917
Is that the 22 scope..?

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>>31869534
Thanks, any decent bags out there?

I had a look at the USMC ILBE bag, but it was £400. I can stretch to £110 at best.

The Dragon Egg looked good, until I had seen it's size and lack of decent strap for the stomach.

>>31869827
Decent deal on an excellent rifle.

Despite being Nikon, the scope's a specially-made-for-package-deals Nikon that's pretty shit. Still recommend replacing it.

>>31870136
Dat dere's a Simmons 8-Point.

$30-40 most places, and surprisingly not-complete-shit.

>>31862081
>Why are there never any rimfire / 10/22 threads? Why does everyone get a nugget for their first rifle?
Milsurp guns with cheap ammo were cool because they were cheap to buy and shoot like a .22 while still being full power guns, which attracted a ton of people to them. Now days there are quite a few of us who refuse to pay the current price for .22lr that has about doubled over the past several years. Between that and how I personally can reload 9mm and .380 for about 38% more than .22lr costs, I really can't bring myself to pay the current prices most people want for .22lr even though I have both a .22 rifle and pistol.

>>31870350
If you cast your own bullets and get some shotgun powder you could reload 38spl for the same cost as .22

>>31870350
>.22lr widely available for 6-7 cents a round
>138% of $0.07 is 8.3 cents a round
1. I don't believe you, unless you are miraculously getting lead for free to cast your own and simultaneously leeching the electricity needed to power your free/hand-me-down smelter while simultaneously using free candles to flux it.
2. That's literally dozens of hours invested per thousand rounds if you are home casting for a 2 cent difference per round

Does someone know of a good pair of safety glasses that fit over normal glasses? I'm taking a friend shooting, but he doesn't have any safety glasses and I don't have any that fit over glasses.
>inb4 bich stronk dood don't wear glasses
I don't want to be the reason this man becomes more blind than he already is.

>>31870372
It takes me like 2 hours to cast 1000 boolits. Plus if you enjoy it as a hobby the time doens't really matter.

Besides that, the entirety of the fun of a .22 was being able to shoot tons of ammo for cheap. If it costs the same as reloaded 9mm or 38 then there's no point to it.

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>>31868115
>dissodence

learn some English, shitstain Ukrop.

Alternative in to a secular Syrian government are a bunch of jihadi warlords. So Putin is supporting the good guys....

In Ukraine Putin stands against nationalist driven, UPA worshiping Ukrainian oligarch funded government that's literally killing its people for standing up against the Soros and US funded coup (revolution).

so plz, go suck some more US cock for IMF aid, you dick-gargling subhuman.

>>31870364
No. You cannot.
>even cheap (S&B, tula) primers are now over 3 cents each
>between half a cent and 1 cent in powder unless you're going ultra-powderpuff
>expect to pay about a dollar per 10 pounds of lead in flux (cheap dollar store candle) even if you're getting lead for free, you'll get around 440 "standard" 158gr .38spl bullets from a 10lb smelt assuming your pot is full to the brim and was relatively clean (minimal dross skimmed off) so half a cent in flux per bullet
>electricity to run the pot (varies, but they are high wattage and generally very inefficient)

>>31860799

This is not true. You can't find it online anymore for cheap but my state armslist has people dumping spam cans and rifles for cheap as hell. I've bought 1500 rounds for 300 bucks in the last couple of months.

>>31870390
But it doesn't cost the same as reloaded 9mm or .38 or .380 or literally any other reloadable caliber.

While I understand that reloading as a hobby is enjoyable, you are using resources other than time during your reloading (electricity, flux, respirator cartridges, etc).

>>31870330
Yeah I got this rifle in a trade. Have only used a nugget and a revolver until now.

>>31870396
Just use sawdust to flux it and get a shovel and go to your local range when no one is there to get free lead.

I never thought about the electricity but casting every weekend I haven't noticed a jump in my bill, but I could've just not paid attention to that when I first started two years ago. So you could be right about that part.

>>31870417
>electricity
Debateable but you could be right
>flux
sawdust
>respirator
lol maybe if you're a queer

Anybody else get a boner from shivering?

>>31870435
Most people with normally functioning dicks and circulatory systems should.

The act of shivering is a semi-autonomous method of increasing bloodflow to the surface layers of the body. Of which the dick is included in.

Where am I supposed to find a "pistol" shot gun?

Long story short I want an SBS but don't want to spend $200 and register it with the ATF, so the legal alternative is to find a shotgun that is designed to be a pistol by the manufacturer, but is still basically an SBS

>>31870476

Either that Mossberg thing designed without a stock or Black Aces

>>31870476
mossberg 500 cruiser. Sold in factory configuration with just their (crappy) pistol grip, though I do think it still has the 18.5" barrel.

>>31870364
>If you cast your own bullets and get some shotgun powder you could reload 38spl for the same cost as .22
I've looked into casting before but I live in an apartment, otherwise I would

>>31870372
>.22lr widely available for 6-7 cents a round
No, it isn't. I have yet to see it consistently go below ~$.08 (including shipping when ordering online) and I can reload 9mm and .380 for $.11. On the occasions that it does drop into the $.06-$.07 range I buy it but that requires me to go to a specific store on a specific day and they don't always have it. I get by bullets locally from a company that casts them.

>2. That's literally dozens of hours invested per thousand rounds if you are home casting for a 2 cent difference per round
I can crank out a couple hundred rounds per hour for one, and I'm getting to shoot the guns I keep around for practical purposes as well.

>>31870396
>>electricity to run the pot (varies, but they are high wattage and generally very inefficient)
Electricity is cheap and I doubt running one for a few hours is going to put a dent in my electric bill that's normally in the low $40 range when compared to my dated computer that runs 16/7, my CRT TV, my electric stove. and my toaster oven that I use to bake things.

>>31865998
they destroyed / disposed / gave their stock piles because they couldn't trade them to America. it will only ever be that cheap if surplus reaches that peak amount again, which I can't really see happening for an old ass cartridge like 7.62x54r

>>31860700
Everyone in this fucking board explain something to me.

Everywhere I look:
7.62x54R = 50-ish c per round
7.62x51/.308 = 50-ish c per round

Seriously people.

>>31870428
BTW why are savage axis magazines such a rip off?

Is there a reason most pepper sprays are limited to 10-15% OC concentration and <3% MC concentration? Is there a law banning anything higher? Where's the 100% OC concentration at?

>>31870570
they are similar rounds. you can get them made in the same country, same brass case material, same boxer primer. the only difference is the amount of raw materials used. (which is pretty close dont know exact measurements)

>>31869917
what knobs ? you have one that changes magnification. and one to adjust for elevation. and one to adjust for windage. Not different in principle from adjusting iron sights.

>>31870626
They have to make it "less lethal" dumbass if it were 100% OC it would be causing people to suffocate. If you need to kill someone you use a gun.

>>31870675
I need to stay in fagifornia for a while to make money. I'll be in college though, so I can't just get a cc license. I need to make my own "more lethal" OC.

>>31870394
is that whats left of the ukrop hanging on the power line, that shit was crazy

>>31870629
No but I was saying that right now x54R and .308 are both the same price but OP was saying that apparently x54R is now super expensive. What gives?

>>31865793
>>31866010
I'm actually selling a 1911 now. I'm not the type of person to hold on to guns just to collect them, I'm more interested in having tools.

At the end of the day, the likelyhood for a failure with a 1911 is much higher than a Glock 19.

>>31870796
It is now COMPARATIVELY super expensive.

3 years ago you could get x54r for around 25cpr. It's more than doubled in price.

>>31870833
That's a cool story man.

>>31870269
If you have any access to military surplus places that carry old ALICE frames, go that route and upgrade the bag as you go.

I'd personally never carry anything but an ALICE pack in a serious situation, daily carry (laptop mags and such) obviously you want something more low vis.

I posted in the last thread about having inconsistent accuracy with golden tiger 7.62x39. I was wondering if anyone had any similar experiences or an explanation, and if anyone has some recommendations for 7.62x39 that would be good for hunting.

>>31860888
>Ithica
Ithaca

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What gun is this?

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>>31862128
Holy shit we're still talking about ammo in this thread

>>31871453

Finnish 20MM anti tank rifle

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I already asked a very similar question, but I have more parameters now. I want a shotgun that

>has a 20+ inch barrel
>pump action
>corn cob front grip
>bayonet lug + bayonet
>tasteful heatsink
>rugged wood furniture
>at least 7+1
>at least 3" chamber
>12 gauge

I know it's impracticable. Just tell me where I can buy it. So far my only option is to buy a 590a1 SPX and a 500 with the furniture I want and Frankenstein a monster. If I do that I have to find a bayonet that fits the aesthetic.

See pic related, it's a 590a1 someone customized. It's close to what I'm looking for. I'd change the bayonet and the sights, I want a traditional bead or rail.

>>31861339
The very idea that anyone here thinks people like you should have the right to defend yourself makes me sick.

Anyone have a pistol with a micro red dot such as the RMR? Primary arms is running a deal with for the trijicon RMR woth 10 pmags for 600 and I have always toyed with the idea of getting one on my SP-01 tactical. Only thing is that I would get the dovetail mount instead of paying for the slide to be milled.

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>>31872121
buy http://www.mossberg.com/product/590-9-shot-heat-shield-50645/
get furniture off ebay

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>>31872121
I think you should boot up photoshop, get a pic of a shotgun and shop it until you have what you want.
Might help with getting people to find you what you want.

I, myself, was looking for an M70A for concealed carry that was shorter than the original, so I made pic related.

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>>31873054
I have a .22 pistol with a red dot on it and I'm not sure about getting a dovetail mount that replaces your rear sight. I still have the rear sight on my .22 pistol and have a small white box painted on the base of the red dot sight that lines up in the rear sight notch when the red dot is centered in the tube in case I lose track of the dot and to help me find the dot immediately when drawing. I'm not sure about using a smaller red dot sight on a pistol without some sort of reference point in the event that you lose the dot.

>>31873165
If you want a pistol with a short barrel and a longer grip like that you could always get a Sig P250/P320 compact/subcompact and buy a full size or compact frame separately (they were about $40 when I looked up doing this a while ago), then cut the extra material off the frame. I was looking at doing something like pic related with one of the subcompact .380 P250s, but the supply seemed to dry up shortly after I got interested.

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I want to build an AR and I want the result to look like pic related. Is there a place that sells kits without any furniture?

>>31874319
The wonderful world of Google can put you on the path young one. Or you can take off the furniture that comes with it and keep it in your safe. Your choice.

>>31874319
colt or aero oem

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Why are the headspace measuring methods different for rimless, rimmed ... etc?

>>31860837
Primary Arms advanced micro dot

>>31860994
I buy 308 for at most $10 a box
ZQI, faggotron

What is a cheap reliable light for an 870 for home defense.

>>31860700
If Trump wins, and he lifts the stupid ban on eastern munitions and guns entering the country, yes.

But trump isn't going to do that, because America's greatest ally is also his.

>>31874657
>Trump
>Lifting bans on trade
>Not putting in place more embargos and trade wars and tariffs because der terk ur gun jerbs

>>31874694
Nigger, can you read?

>>31874694
They literally did take our jobs though. My town used to have two dozen factories/blue collar places like foundries..etc, in the 1990's. Now we have two factories. The chinese and the god damn spics. I want my country back now!

>>31874741
Then maybe those factories should of made decent functioning guns?

Literally you just be I. Your 20s to not remember how shit all the eric an companies were, everything they made had something wrong.

>>31874766
I wasn't even talking about guns. Just manufacturing in general. And learn how to type properly you fucking nigger.

>>31874782
Fuck you nigger, I'm typing on a phone and my manly hands can't type on this fucking piece of shit.

>>31870382
Go to a hardware store and find something like this http://www.homedepot.com/p/3M-Clear-Frame-with-Clear-Scratch-Resistant-Lenses-Indoor-Eyeglass-Protector-47031-WZ6/205137840

>>31874570
Because in guns chambered in rimmed cartridges, the cartridge is held in place by the bolt face pushing the rim against the chamber. In guns in rimless cartridges, the shoulder is pushed against the chamber.

>>31869760
>>31870562
It all depends on how much gets in. As long as even one distributor decides to lower prices the rest will be forced to follow, assuming theres a much larger supply than demand.

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Will it hurt to dry-fire a BP revolver? Will the hammer actually come in contact with the nipple?

>>31873258
>P250
I don't really like the long grip. I just didn't have enough time or effort to shop photoshop it into something smaller. Glock 26, P290RS seems like a bit overkill in terms of grip shortness. Right now I'm just debating whether I should just buy an M70A and hope that all this talk about how thickness is the main thing to avoid when it comes to carry is true - or if I should save up and buy myself a nice compact glock (preferably something bigger than the 26) or a P238/P938,

>>31875429
>>31873258

Shit I didn't mean to greentext P250.
I mean that picture of the M70A I put up. I didn't have time or effort to photoshop the grip into something smaller. As for the P250 subcompact, I am liking the thought of it.

>>31860700
When Trump gets elected and fulfils his mandate of overturning every last one of obambos executive orders. That will lift the trade restrictions with Russia and not only does that mean cheap ammo but cheap saigas and perhaps other slavguns as well.

>>31860700
Has Remington unfucked themselves yet?

What's good footwear for going innawoods? I was thinking about just buying some surplus jungle boots because I don't want to spend too much.

>>31860700
So how do I take something off the NFA registry? I have a SBS that is damaged beyond repair and don't know how to properly dispose of it.

>>31876247
Just invest in a nice pair of hiking boots. And break them in.

>>31876247
If there's one place to avoid sacrificing quality to save money, it's your feet

Is right now a bad time to just be getting in to firearms? For the first time in many years, I have enough expendable income to support a hobby after food, bills, gas, etc. I have $500 in my recreational budget right now and I'm not really sure what to do with it.

Also I have like 120 MRE that I've saved from various things, not really sure what to do with those but keep them for now I guess.

>>31876425
There hasn't been a good time to get into guns since 2007 or so. If you want to start shooting, get yourself a nice starter gun and a bunch of ammo, and just be aware that it can be a pretty expensive hobby all things considered. Nature of the beast.

>>31876457
So shit sucks and it's a money hole.
What if I were to save up money and try to start a business in dealing/manufacturing, or is it also far too late to get started in that as well?

Is it bad for my pump shotgun to store it with the forestock pumped back so that the chamber is open?

I like to know that its unloaded at a glance.

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>>31862799

I paid $500 for mine new several years ago when they were blowing out the flat backs. For the price i paid hell yes i like it. But if we are talking a $100+ Vepr i think i would build an AR10.

>>31877203

$1000+

im fucking tired....

What other sites sell non airshit or mallninja shit

All I know is skdtactical for new shit and varusteleka for old shit

>>31861695
.45 Colt

>>31868136
QuikLOAD is the closest thing to what you're describing

>>31861695
>I'm looking to buy a matching caliber lever gun and revolver

I'd go with .357 myself.

>>31861958
It's only gay if balls are touching.

>>31866134
I remember when .223 was .10 a round.

I am at a loss when it comes to my first .308 target rifle. I just don't see much of a difference. Considering paper punching as primary use, is there any real difference between the following:
CZ 550 (1000€ +mount)
Savage 10 fcp-sr (1200)
Rem 700 SPS Varmint (1200)
Howa 1500 (1000+)
T3x CTR (1600)
Ruger Precision Rifle (1800)
T3x Tacticool(2000)

Shot Remington, Savage and Howa, handled T3 CTR.
Not impressed with rem and Howa, Savage shot great but working the action almost amounts to actual work plus a gunsmith told me they were hard to work on. CTR had a nice bolt but I haven't actually shot it and it's much more expensive, plus reloaded the buddies tell me I should get the longest barrel possible. Also it seems more expensive without much added value.
Might swap stocks and triggers later, but at first out-of-the-box performance is what I am looking for.

>>31874793
Dumb phone poster

I heard someone say there's a difference between target sights and carry sights, what does this mean?

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Hey guys, pardon the potentially long post

Commiefornian here, raised by a liberal family that thinks guns are as bad as nuclear warfare.
Recently started developing an interest in guns, and as luck would have it, my grandfather had this Remington 512 Sportmaster in his attic and basically said he'd give it to me. I know very little about guns, but I look forward to learning.

From what little research I've done, this thing isn't particularly special, but works just fine. He didn't have any rounds to fire, but said he'd lube and clean the bolt.

It's been sitting in his attic for probably 50 years, wrapped up. He doesn't remember when he bought it, but it was likely the late 1940's, early 1950's. I won't be able to check serial numbers for more precise dating for about a week.

Lots of questions that make me sound really uneducated on the topic, because I am:
>How do I even transport/carry this thing around?
I've never seen gun owners where I live. How do I take this thing into a shop to have it looked at, and should I have it covered up when it's in my car? I'd imagine the average Californian calling 911 with even a glimpse of the thing.
>Where can I shoot this thing outside of a range?
National forests, right? When my grandfather moved to his current house, it was very rural. Now, sprawling suburbia; curious how far away I have to go from cities to shoot it.
>Should I have someone check it out before I fire it?
Just want to make sure it's safe
>Do I need to tell the state or anyone that I now own a firearm?
I know rifles are more relaxed in the law, but I don't need someone coming along and taking it away because of something I missed
>Does the barrel look okay?
I've heard stuff about bluing, but I don't know what condition it needs to be in.

I have a few more pictures if necessary, especially for that last question. Thanks in advance for any help.

>>31860700
Best 80% lower? Thinking forged or billet.

>>31879571
You don't have to tell anyone, if you really want the rifle in your name and have it legally handed to you go to a gunshot with grandpa and do a ppt (private party transaction) doing so means you'll have to take the firearm safety certification and the whole process will trigger the waiting period. So it'll take a week and~40-60$ to do it the super legal way.
Or you can just have grandpa hand you the rifle and if anyone asks he gave it to you through your father, an act which is on the books and legal.

You don't have to do either, no one will ever ask you from a place of authority where you got it. Obeying these laws are nonsense especially for a bolt .22.

Does uberti make good shit?

>>31879639
They make most of the BP stuff on the market now that isn't Pietta, and they're better than Pietta.

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Whats the cheapest psa ar build? Preferred with list if possible.

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Are there any negatives to the +2 glock baseplates? Looks like in addition to more capacity they make the mag a bit easier to handle as well. Would be for a Glock 19 btw.

>>31879716
it's whatever they have in stock at the time. the cheapest builds come from buying more parts at once. (unless you are OK with putting sketchy chinkshit Amazon parts on your gun). Look for kits not individual parts.

>>31879639
best SAA clones that aren't ridiculously expensive.

>>31879398

For pistols, a carry sight will meet some or all of the following criteria:
- Fixed sights. Adjustable sights are typically very large (snag hazard) and also, for the most part, less durable.
- High-visibility. Typically accomplished with a wider rear notch and a front sight with some sort of feature to draw your attention (painted white ring, phosphorescent ring, fiber optic, etc.).
- Snag-free or reduced snag. You don't want sights that are too sharp or overly large, so they don't catch on your clothing.
- Tritium. It's important to have sights that work in low light, though not everybody follows this for carry.

Target sights will typically be all black, usually serrated on the front and/or rear faces in order to reduce glare. Sometimes they'll have a fiber optic rod on the front sight (especially for competition). Often times they'll be adjustable. Rear notch widths will be relatively narrow. Front sight will typically be very thin (<.115").

Is there any reason I should buy a more modern shotgun over an 1897? I already have burglar guns so the shotgun is mostly for the purpose of birding.

>>31879878
I'll keep that in mind, thanks

Another one; when people say a handgun has a mag capacity of 7+1 or 8+1, the "1" is referring to the round that's been chambered right?

Could you say load a 7 round .45 1911, chamber a round, then take out the mag and load another round into it so it now has 8 rounds loaded?

>>31879886
reliability and ergonomics mostly

Also unless I'm mistaken the 1897's bolt comes out like a repeating rifle, which might dig into your hand or even bite you, could get annoying if you're not conscious, internal magazine capacity is only about 5 or 6 shells too depending on the brand.

M134's (miniguns) are powered by a electric motor
technically, could the firerate be as fast or as slow as you could spin the barrel? 1 round per second to as fast as you could spin it without the mounts failing

>>31880924
You mean crank it manually like a gatling gun?

If it's not spinning at a constant rate it's firing mechanism will likely jam, hence why a motor is used.

>>31880981
I meant that the fire rate is arbitrary, as long as it would be spinning constantly
so if you were low on ammo you could reduce it from 2000 to 1000 or 500 per minute

>>31860700

best jhp 45 acp for feeding into a 1911?

>>31881055
What kind of 1911?

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I really like the RFB, but I have no guns, and above all I'd rather just have a decent, reliable rifle
should I just get a cheap AR15 so I at least have something?

>>31881033
Theoretically yes but that defeats the purpose of a minigun, at that point you might as well have a browning .50 cal

The heavier the caliber and slower the fire rate, the bigger the effect the recoil is going to have and the less accurate it'll be.

>>31881160
That thing is just vaporware isn't it?

Yeah just get an ar15 and do it before the 8th if at all possible. If Hillary wins prices will go crazy again. And if Trump wins and prices stay steady you can always sell it and get that RFB. win/win

>>31881063

fullsize RIA, government model with the dogshit sights.

Trigger is good, feeds fmj and rounded jhp very well with good mags, but the more truncated rounds don't really feed well.

>>31881209
Even then I'd keep the AR if I were him, Keltec carbines are shit

>>31881214
You might have to polish the feed ramp and a bit of the inside of the chamber to get good reliabiluty with JHP.

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>>31881209
>before the 8th
not going to happen
either way, I've heard there's about 6 gorrillion different AR15 manufacturers, is nearly any one going to be fine or should I get something specific?

>>31881224
but I like it
isn't that reason enough to buy a gun?

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>>31881160
>Reliable
Yeah, get an AR15
If you want .308, get a SCAR

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>>31881240

Ive read a few horror storries about home polishing the feed ramp. I've got it clean, but very triangular jhps nose down into it. The rounded ones not so much. pic related is what I'm carrying now, but I haven't found another box of it in a few years.

The golden saber looks similar to it, but iirc they aren't a bonded jhp? If I can find those black belt golden sabers I might check it out.

>>31881262
"I like it" is plenty reason, but you'll be disappointed if/when it fails

>>31881262
Damn that sucks brah. Borrow some money or suck off some guys in an alley for cash. This might be your last chance.

You can always get a stripped lower receiver though. With that cash you could complete the lower and cross your fingers and hope you can buy a complete upper after the election.

>>31881293
having to basically take it apart to clear a jam or get at the action isn't the best feature
I don't think it was designed to be a reliable military battle rifle

>>31881262
Not to be a dick, but it doesn't look like you need to be worrying about buying a gun right now, seems like you should focus your income on developing a decent emergency fund first.
Hillary can't do shit til January, and she won't upset the status quo /that/ much.

>>31881331
if I really needed to I could save up $1000 or so before the end of the year

>>31881331
You're mostly right, but I think you underestimate the Gunmageddon that's going to happen in the pricing world if (when) she wins the election.

>>31860717

>Maybe when the shit fest in the Middle East dies down

So maybe in a few millennia.

>>31881342
I'm scared to mention the possibility of the Gunpocalypse that will happen if Hillary wins AND Republicans lose their majorities in Congress.

>>31881385

Oh don't even worry about that dude if Hillary serves two terms she will potentially be able to nominate 4 Supreme Court justices. And just the one nomination she is guaranteed will make 5 justices who think the 2nd Amendment is obsolete. So you won't have to worry about any unfavorable gun legislation from congress because you won't have guns anymore.

>>31863657

Look up msrp. Iirc 10/22 is $300-400, LCP 1 is 250/300

>>31866134

Cheapest I've found it in store, apart from tul ammo or unmarked brown boxes, is $.35 per at Walmart. But then again they're constantly selling quite quickly.

>>31868115

>Siding with international terrorists over a dictator

Get out of k you goat fucker

>>31868365

Buy lower now. Make it a 10/10 later

Any other german /k/ameraden here?

Since the rapefugees and the clowns came i noticed a growing pro gun mentality of a lot of people here

Someone else that noticed the same thing?

>>31881853
the pendulum continues its infinite arc

>>31870570

Aside from perfecta all ammo I've seen in 308 is .80-$1+

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>>31881542
Help plz
Pic unrelated

What's up with the "scout rifle" meme anyways? Is it just so Californians can feel cool?

It literally serves no purpose that a semi-auto battle rifle wouldn't do 1000x better.

>>31882019

Decent scout rifle is achievable at, what, $700? Stock BR is $1000 before scope or anything, right?

>>31882019
boltguns are inherently more accurate then gas operated guns
plus you can do the boltgun autism and get a enfield

>>31882068
I guess so. I still thought ptr 91's were $800 but I just checked and they're over $1000 now

Where does /k/ buy their Level IV ceramic plates? I'm in the market.

>>31881372
>year 5309
>the earth is a nuclear wasteland
>practically all life has been erased
>not even rubble remains, only irradiated sand
>only a few hundred humans stayed behind, living in the deep, old bunkers of the cold war that did not get hit directly when the war began
>somehow, a small group of sandniggers found one
>they have no way to expand their populace, as their preteen wives were all fucked to death waiting out the blasts in their bunker
>they surface
>the radiation kills most of them, starvation and exposure most of the rest
>the last two are sitting, huddled over the few remaining soviet MREs on this planet
>"abu hadjar, will you pass the-"
>mohammed is interupted by a single gunshot
>he keels over, bleeding from the skull
>revealing a man standing behind him
>dressed in a hazmat suit, with a gas mask on
>a small patch is sewn onto his suit
>abu hadjar can barely make out the words "grab sks, go innawoods" though he cannot understand them.
>the man reaches into a holster and draws a pistol, points it at hadjar
>"p-please, we're the only ones left! It would do you no good to kill me! We can work together!" Abu cries
>he swears he sees the man smile under the mask
>the mysterious figure racks the slide
>abu hadjar hears a muffled voice
>"remove kebab"

Anyone know how good the Galil ACE for 7.62 NATO is? How is its MOA, and could it be used as a pretty good semi-auto DMR?

I want to buy my first rifle. I've never bought a gun before, what do I need? Besides money obviously.

>>31882416
A clean record. Where do you plan to buy, LGS or online? And if you live in IL, you need a FOID

>>31882416
I misread "rifle" as "wife"

The rest made sense until I re-read it.

Besides ammo and an extra magazine if it doesn't come with one, not much.

>>31882460
Im 19, have a clean record, live in North Carolina. I'll be buying online from gunbroker.

>>31882470
So do i not need a license or anything? I can just straight up buy a rifle?

>>31882487
Yes.

>>31882487
Depends on where you are

.t noguns in New Jersey, tried to be funny, ignore me

>>31882472
a lot of people are put off by online purchasing bc they dont want to seem stupid asking questions but its pretty simple.
it would be best finding a local ffl/dealer first. call around and as what theyre transfer fee is-depends on the area but figure roughly $25 for a transfer. also ask if they accept guns from individuals- some places dont.
"individuals" mean someone sending a gun not through an ffl on their end, just as a individual person. this is important bc not everyone will ship through an ffl, especially on gunbroker.
next, find the gun you want and buy it.
send payment along with a copy of the FFL from your local dealer. you can call your dealer and have them send their ffl.
its also a good idea to call and inform your dealer that you have a gun coming to them for transfer. include your personal information too, so your dealer/gunshop can call you when they receive your gun.
the seller gets payment and ffl, sends your gun to your dealer. you come in, fill out a 4473, pay the transfer fee, and go home with your new gun.

>>31882472
If you're going to meet the person face-to-face, you don't really need anything. Though, definitely check with state and local laws.

If you're buying from a store or what have you, you need to get it sent to a FFL. If that is the case, I highly suggest you find a FFL willing to take in the gun before you buy it.

It's all literally been bought and is being burned up in the middle east, after 1992 54r surplus can't be imported as it's Armor piercing.

54r costs as much and more then .308 now welcome to the party.

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Anyone have an idea where I can get one of those norinco 1897 shotgun repros, and what'd be a reasonable price point should I resort to private sales? Thanks.

>>31882554
What about a background check? Does the ffl dealer do that?

Is a GP5 long-lasting, or is it only good for cheeki breeki cosplay?

>>31882661
Yes. All they really do is call the ATF and see if your record is clean. When I went to get my first gun, the phone call took like a couple of minutes. The whole process should take like a half hour to an hour, depending if you filled out the 4473 beforehand.

>>31881515
>what is senate confirmation of Scotus nominees?

>A: why a Senste republican majority is important

>>31860700
I have half a spam can left am i rich

>>31882661
thats what the 4473 is. its a form you fill out stating you arent a criminal, illegal immigrant, etc.. your dealer calls it in to the NICS
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Instant_Criminal_Background_Check_System
the NICS can give one of three response to your form: proceed, hold, and denial.
proceed is the green light. hold is means put the sale on hold and do not proceed. this can be due to you having a similar name as someone else or whatever. it might come up, dont worry. the dealer should get a call back saying everything is ok. another scenario is if the NICS has three days to respond. if they dont within those three days, your dealer can go ahead with the transfer. and then denial- you dont get the gun, the gun is shipped back to the seller, and youll end up paying whatever fees there are for the seller and FFL

>>31882714
>what are cuckservatives?

>>31882737
Yeah because Democrats have such a good reputation when it comes to protection of MUH GUNS. If Democrats get a majority you will lose assault weapons at the very least.

>>31882753
Anon is noting that even though (R) tend to be better about the 2A, they have a huge problem of bending backwards after they put on their little show.

Dems just get a little more explicit.

>>31865996
No, that's deadweight tonnage.

Why are most .300 blackout rifles SBRs?

>>31874837
No, just in old shitty rifles like the Lee-Enfield, in all other ones that are rimmed they headspace on the shoulder.

>>31882887
Because the intention of .300 AAC was to develop a heavier, sub-sonic round that could operate on the AR-15 platform with minimal parts change

>>31876261
Contact the field agent for your area.

>>31882958
Since it's sub sonic is there no point to having a longer barrel?

>>31879571
> in a closed case in your trunk.
> on every place on which hunting is legal.
> it's a 22LR, it something is wrong with it you'll see it with your own eyes. Just make sure the bore as nice and the whole shit is well cleaned.
> no, you don't - private transfers are perfectly legal.
> no, it's dirty and slightly rusty. Get some coarse rags, a bit of motor oil (the thicker the better for this job) and rub it until it's gone.Then keep it oiled at all times.

Is .45-70 easy to reload? Does the brass last long? Thinking about importing a .45-70 lever gun but would need to import ammo too, so it is easier to just cast the bullet and reload, the brass being what I cannot find locally.

>>31883129
Yeah it's easy. Just like loading a pistol caliber except you have to lube the cases. I have starline brass that's probably been loaded around 25 times and it still looks good. Marlin loads in the books. I cast my bullets as well.

>>31876425
It's better now than the last election. Considering a context of a short time frame, it's a great time to buy. Compared to 10 years or more ago? lol.

>>31882636
Bamp

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Some guy wants to trade me his Safari Arms Matchmaster 1911. For one of my rifles. I dont know much about it, or 1911s in general. Anyone got some useful info?

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I was watching Grandpa Hickok's video on the M97 Winchester
He mentioned that there are tales of American soldiers shooting grenades out of the air like clay pigeons

Is there any validity to these claims?

>>31861695
.45-70

I'm not even kidding. Seriously, get .45-70.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VurlLccuD4M

Hey, I have a slightly bubba'd mauser that I bought off of someone, it's a regular kar98k, but with a terribly done stock restoration, the lacquer is flaking off and poorly applied. I can't post pics right now because I'm away from home.

My question is, should I use tung oil, boiled linseed oil, or something else to make it look at least half good.

Thanks

>>31885687
brown spraypaint

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>>31885757

>>31885757
>>31885786
I'll do it

>>31876279
>>31876399
Thanks to the both of you, I've started looking for some good quality one, hopefully I'll have enough with tomorrowsome paycheck to be able to buy a good pair.
Also second question; is their any modern equivalent to 30-30? I've always thought it was similar to .308, more or less, since its mainly used in lever guns but I've been told recently it's similar to .556
Or maybe I'm just retarded?

>>31886212
7.62x39 is very similar to .30-30, just with a modern bullet design and a hell of a lot cheaper.