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Luger P08

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Stupid question, how was this gun succesful in WW1?
>easily jammable, ammunition gets dirty easily, dust/dirt can get into the chamber while firing and reloading
>used in trenches where dirt, dust and mud was flying everywhere
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>>31853340
the jamming myth comes from US joes who brought the guns back home and started using US made 9mm ammo, US loaded ammo was manufactured to fire at a lower pressure than the german made ammo and thus did not properly cycle the action. There were 2 reasons the US ammunition makers did this 1: They did not believe that it was possible to load it to german specs based on the powders in use by the US at that time and 2: the 9mm Glisenti pistol which was also a popular bring back pistol fires an identically dimensioned 9mm but could not handle high pressure german ammo and would kb if anything higher was used. personally I think the second reason was probably the more important decision making factor for US producers.
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>>31853340
>>31853352
Because they were good semi-auto pistols for the time. Also, if it was loaded with German-made 9mm Luger ammunition, a Luger would usually function fine even after crawling 100m through the mud.
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>>31853625
German service ammunition was not particularly high pressure or high velocity. The standard load used an 8g bullet (123.5gr) at between 1080-1100fps.

USCCo had started making 9mm Parabellum cartridges by 1920and Remington started by 1923, both using 124gr bullets.
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Where would the best place be to buy a shooter non-matching number Luger in 9mm? Can't ever find them on GunBroker for less than $1k.
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>>31855767
The trick is to not use gunbroker.
I scored my c96 for 700 off the same sight
http://www.gunauction.com/buy/14217733
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>>31855767
>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/595503857
If you don't mine replacing a broken take down lever this a pretty decent deal.
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>>31853340
But they aren't with sufficiently potent 9mm Luger.

It's seriously sealed up nicely against dirt and mud.
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>>31853939
>Drake

Yet he forgets not everyone bought or knew that at the time

Nice to see you around again, you posted on Operatorchan.org and tacking.org if I remember correctly
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>>31853340

>easily jamable

The US used low power ammo because the only 9mm's in the US were cheap shit; same reason US .25ACP is weaker than .22LR, but Euro ammo is more powerful. Most Euro .25 pistols are quality steel, most US .25 pistols are zinc Saturday night specials. The Luger's toggle action needs higher-powered ammo; wow, a gun doesn't work that great with shitty, under-powered ammo, what a shocker.

>ammunition gets dirty easily

What is that even supposed to mean?

>dirt can get in the chamber while firing and reloading

This applies to every single pistol on the planet, dingbat. Magazines are magazines, and a toggle action isn't any more vulnerable to dirt than a slide action is.

They're accurate, they're reliable, they have great ergonomics. The Luger was a technological dead-end, true, but for the time period it was a great pistol. If it wasn't good, then the Swiss wouldn't have kept using it until the 1970's. 18 countries adopted it and used it for decades; you don't keep something in service for decades if it's shit.
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>>31855933

Found my C96 bolo at a small town pawn shop for $350. Brown rust patina, zero finish, grips worn to nubs, barrel shot out, magazine spring broken, extractor missing. Stripped the rust, reblued it, replaced the grips and all missing and broken parts. All it needs now is to have the bore relined and a replacement stock.

Photo is from the middle of restoration, don't have any 'after' photos.
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>>31853340
Extremely successful, one of the best choices for handguns during that time. The toggle lock action was good, but required precision machining, meaning this gun didn't really have a future.
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>>31858783
Nice, anon. That's a labor of love.
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>>31853352
/fucking thread
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>>31853340
They were produced in insufficient numbers, and so the c96 took their spot
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