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ITT: Military hardware you didn't know existed

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ITT: Military hardware you didn't know existed
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janes op
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F4 with canards
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>>31853286
If I'm posting pictures of it... Doesn't that mean I know it exists?
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>>31853286
I learned about that in peace walker.
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>>31854324
op here
logic is hard
'you didn't know existed'

here's what I did: didn't know that existed

saw it

then posted it

which meant, originally, i did not know it existed.
wow

was that hard?
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The Italian FNAB-43 submachinegun
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>>31854136
This is both cute and badass.
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>>31855067

Luns are cool.

>Springfeild SPIW
The future of small arms in 1960s.
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>Humvee mounted stinger missiles

Yes please.
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>>31855765
>with a .50 just for good measure
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>>31854898
but OP that applies to literally everything in existence at some point
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>>31855609
>fiberglass in the eyes
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>>31855789
I think you know what he means and are just being difficult like a not so edgy teen
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>>31855819
;)
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IWS 2000

A 15.2mm smoothbore AT rifle firing APFSDS rounds
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le meme
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>>31855880
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>>31855583

Can anyone tell me why the american idea for a mobile land based ICBM never took off?
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>>31855938
Cost and lack of a need.
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The ITB.
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>>31855938
after the cold war ended there wasn't a point
probably would be cheaper than the ohio replacement program but w/e
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Always thought this was a civilian aircraft. Turns out it was meant to land troops.
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>>31856059
Tbh im guessing Hughes just used the """landing troops""" angle as a way to get some govt. funding to help an ego project.
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Russian C-47 bomber
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>>31858616
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>>31858616
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It still doesn't exist
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>>31856098
it would have served as a really good logistics aircraft for areas which haven't had airfields developed yet like in the Pacific campaign.
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>>31858616
>>31858624
>>31858629
Is that how they arrived in the USSR or did the USSR modify them later? Was it the USSRs best WWII bomber?
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HMETT with an extra wheel. Twice the payload.
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>>31855938

We already had bombers, subs, and silos.

Not to mention all sorts of short-range missiles, tactical nukes, etc.
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>>31858684
It's license built by the Soviet Union.
Li-2VV
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HIMARS MLRS/SRQBM

Half the weight of an M270, Transportable by C-130, much longer legs than an M270.

US has over 400 of them already.
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>>31858813
They were heavily recruiting for people to man these not too long ago
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M11 US Standard Issue pistol
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>>31858860
Im sure they were, with himars and mlrs, the us has a shitload MLRS systems.
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>>31854898
fuck off fun police
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>>31858708
why?
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>>31858860
>you will never "pilot" a MLRS in eastern Europe against refurbed T55s

For real, what is the point in even continuing my existence?
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>>31858684

>Was it the USSRs best WWII bomber?

That'd be the Tu-2
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>>31856098
>Tbh im guessing Hughes just used the """landing troops""" angle as a way to get some govt. funding to help an ego project.

Do not trust your history education on Hollywood.

Actually originated from Henry Kaiser in 1942 as US shipping losses in Atlantic started to mount. It was military project from the star, motivation was fear that U-boats in Atlantic would become even bigger threat to US shipping. So they concluded that worlds biggest aircraft would be a solution. Since Kaiser operated in construction and shipbuilding, they got Hughes involved.

To say something about Kaiser, he is the guy behind mass construction of Liberty and Victory ships. Those are maritime commission designs, but he is the guy streamlined their construction even further. He was proponent of US intervention to WWII even before the war started. He was basically son German immigrants that started a small construction company in California in his mid 20's and couple decades later operated one of biggest companies in business couple decades later. Before WWII he started to build shipyards for himself with his own financing. Once US got involved in war he was pretty well positioned for massive government contracts.

Fear of U-boat situation turning even worse was never realized so funding to H-4 was cut later on. Not to mention that the biggest aircraft in the world isn't exactly cake walk in terms of engineering. After the war Hughes was blamed for war profiteering for two military aircraft contracts that never ended in serial production, H-4 and XF-11 recon plane. Hughes aircraft was tiny aircraft manufacturer, main businesses of Hughes were tooling, TWA and real estate. When war started Hughes Aircraft had four employees, it was basically basically single hangar business that made high tech racing aircraft. Company mostly built designs of other manufactures during war and grew to 80000 employees. H-4 became Howard's obsession because he needed to redeem his reputation.
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>>31859047
Why not?

20% more hemtt per hemtt.
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>>31859057
Judging that you're animeposter, I'd say none
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>>31858862
OwO whats this?
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This shit right over here. They actually built it, the fucking madmen.
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>>31855938
Domestic launch sites were covered with silos, we did a better-than-everyone-else job at keeping our foreign fixed launch sites a secret, and between airdropped nuclear weapons and SLBM's we had our mobile platforms covered.

Basically, we wouldn't be fighting a nuclear war where the enemy had conventional means over the continental US plus any "global" USSR vs NATO conflict that went hot we could either deal with from the safety of CONUS or we were permafucked within the first 20 minutes and having mobile launchers overseas didn't matter. So there wasn't any need.
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>>31859047
So you can tow all the same shit as a HET while still having the palletized loading system.

Imagine having a trailer with two HIMARS trucks on it and having a stack of 4 fastpacks on the hemtt that's pulling them. Wham, transpo and rearm capability in one vehicle.
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>>31859275
The way of the future. The way of the future. The way of the future. The way of the future.

Banana nut Hercules.
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>>31855861
Why haven't calibers larger than .50 taken off for infantry use?
As lightly armoured vehicles become more armoured, and more resistant to mines, IED's and HEAT warheads, why does there not exist a modern equivalent of an anti-tank rifle for disabling vehicles like MRAPs, armoured transports and disabling equipment?
Tanks will never be at a WWII level of armour again, but lightly armoured vehicles (which have become extremely numerous in the inventory of every motorized military since WWII) are quite often inferior in kinetic protection to most early WWII tanks. It would make logical sense to me that a cheaper solution should exist to deal with the lightly armoured threats that comprise a majority of land vehicles in pretty much every military.

Are missiles really that cheap that they can be employed en-masse or is the support from combined arms enough to keep lightly-armoured threats at bay from infantry? Does .50 do enough for anti-material roles?
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>>31858675
Now THAT is stealth.
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>>31858680
Finish Aerosan?
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>>31859312
Because by the time you get a vehicle armored enough to resist even small IED's not even 20x139mm AP rounds penetrate it and you're into full-turret-mount autocannon territory. Which we have.
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>>31859312
>lightly armored vehicle
>resistant to IED's and HEAT warheads
Pick one.
>why does there not exist a modern equivalent of an anti-tank rifle for disabling vehicles like MRAPs
Because the small handful of calibers large enough to reliably penetrate even small MRAPs are way too big and high-recoiling to be used in a shoulder-fired weapon. The current-gen Cougars and Buffalos are proofed against 20x139mm autocannon fire from all sides and 30mm autocannon fire from the front, the Maxxpro (the smallest MRAP) is proofed for 20x139 from the front and underside and 14.5mm HMG AP fire from the sides. And those still have less armor than something like a Stryker, which also enjoys the ability to mount reactive and slat armor.
>are missiles really that cheap that they can be employed en-masse
Yes
>or is the support from combined arms enough
also yes
>does .50 do enough for anti-materiel roles?
Considering it will reliably penetrate the sides and back of a BMP-3 from less than 500m with ball ammo (or 1200m with SLAP) and can turn any model of BTR or BRDM (or the BMP-1) into swiss cheese from any range the gunner can hit it at with ball ammo, and those are really the only truly armored vehicles that aren't MBT's any first-world military is likely to face for the next 70+ years, I'd say so.
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>>31859347
>>resistant to IED's and HEAT warheads
http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Zaitsev72/media/MRAP.jpg.html
http://media.defenceindustrydaily.com/images/LAND_RG-31_LROD_Armor_lg.jpg
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>>31859358
>calling either of those a "lightly armored vehicle"
>base model Maxxpro is 16 tons, with frag armor it's 22 tons
>buffalo H with all applique armor weighs almost as much as M1 Abrams (87,500lbs/nearly 44 tons)
You're a special sort of retarded aren't you
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>>31859228
>he only saves images of facial expressions of real human beans
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I raff I roose
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>>31854898
You feeling alright? Did you have a bad day?


Wanna talk about it?
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>>31859261
Think he's saying sig p320 is going to be the next US standard issue handgun. I know it's doing really well in the modular handgun system competition put on by the US government to replace the m9
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>>31859159

cont..

Hughes aircraft as defense contractor known for it's own designs is a Cold War thing and due to massive competition in everything else they decided to focus on emerging new field in military and civil aviation, helicopters. Basically only serially produced Hughes Aircraft designs are three helicopter models. Helicopter business was sold to McDonnell-Douglas that later on merged with Boeing.

Hughes model 269, renamed later on 300, military designation TH-55. Tiny two seat utility helicopter used by military as basic trainer. Now manufactured by Schweizer Aircraft.

Hughes model 369, later renamed model 500 for marketing reasons. Military designation OH-6 Cayuse with fuckload of derivatives for civilian, military and black project use. Now manufactured by MD Helicopters for civilian markets and Boeing for defense market.

AH-64 Apache.

Pic very related. A thing that really rustles jimmies of tin foil hat crowd. Hughes 500P aka the Quiet One. It still is possibly the most quiet helicopter ever built. Couple of those were built during Vietnam War for CIA to wiretap communications lines in North Vietnam.

http://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/air-americas-black-helicopter-24960500/?all
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>>31859228
>he posts on a board called 4 "Chan". Its like going into a gay bar, sucking all the dicks, then screaming that everyone else but you is the fag because you never went all the way, while cum streams out of your mouth.
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>>31855789
No it doesn't, because literally everything in existence isn't military hardware.
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>>31858684
The Soviets had the licence and manufactured it themselfes, under the name Li-2, with some basic modifications. Different engines, cost saving methods, etc. By the way, after they ran out of bombs, they started to drop railway track pieces on the germans at night. I know because we had theese here in Hungary as well. As far as i know, they bought 2 original DC-3s from the US and bought the licence to manufacture it. Only a small number of them had any self defense weaponry (pic related is one of the few, with a DP-28 on top). But yup, until the IL-2 came around, these were the most useful bombers the USSR had (along with the PO-2, lel)
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>>31855789
So now you argue semantics.
go back to /b/ you low functioning autist.
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>>31855938
>land based ICBM never took off

I think you just answered your own question right there
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>>31859261
It's an alternate duty pistol. USAF security forces investigators and osi carry them
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I remember seeing a documentary long time ago, showing a soldier standing on a hovering pad or disc manufactured sometime during or after the second world war.

It was an experimental US air force project that never saw service. anyone know?
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>>31859648
>But yup, until the IL-2 came around, these were the most useful bombers the USSR had (along with the PO-2, lel)

What the fuck? PO-2 and Li-2 was used mostly for night time annoyance bombing. Il-2 was attack aircraft, completely different role to both actual bombers and ad-hoc bombers you mentioned.

Soviets had plenty of actual bombers in their inventory.

Soviets had around 6000 slightly obsolete Tupolev SB's that were destroyed by thousands on ground in first days and weeks of war, most of remaining being lost at bit slower base in first 6 months of the war, due to insanely incompetent tactics being utilized. Un-escorted daylight raids by small formations or even single planes in worst case. Incompetence being main reason for insane losses, even when plane was bad design by all means.

Then there were 1500 Ilyushin DB-3's, that was reasonably up to date medium bomber when Germans invaded. It's improved variant Il-4 entered production in 1942 once production facilities were relocated and about 5000 of those were produced.

Next stop is Pe-2. It was one of the best light bombers the war with A-26 Invader, Mosquito and Ju-87. It had entered service just prior to war, but during war around 11500 were produced.

Followed by Tu-2 medium bomber. Production started in September 41 and it entered operational service in 1942 around same time as bomber version of Li-2 started after relocation of plant to Tashkent. Around 2200 were produced in total with production ending in 1948. The only reason why Il-4's were produced in much higher numbers is the fact that much better Tu-2 shared engine with plenty of higher priority aircraft like La-5/7/9 fighters and Pe-2, there simply wasn't enough engines around, so worse plane remained in production.

Then we can talk about Lend Lease B-25 Mitchell's and A-20 Havocs.
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>>31859878
>I remember seeing a documentary long time ago, showing a soldier standing on a hovering pad or disc manufactured sometime during or after the second world war.
>It was an experimental US air force project that never saw service. anyone know?

de Lackner HZ-1 Aerocycle? A brilliant way to move a single soldier on one man helicopter at speed slower than jeep or APC could move. Kinda noisy. It has nice unprotected contra-rotating rotor blades under your feet and plenty of fuel causing nice fire hazard-
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>>31859272
that thing is beautiful!
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I've tried to forget about this, have blue's hideously ugly cousin, tacit blue.
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>>31855819
rekt
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>>31856059
its the way of the future
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>>31860107

>Hey, Sam! Do you think that we can change acrylic bathtub into a plane?
>I dunno John. But lets get some money from MoD and CIA and try!
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>>31860177
>DoD
FTFY.
Also according to one of those military or history channel documentaries I must have watched a decade or so ago, tacit blue was just a proof of concept aircraft to see if radar absorption and deflection could be achieved in the opposite manner as have blue and later the F117, with smooth edges rather than rounded ones, so you're not far off.
Tom Clancy's book Red Storm Rising has the F-19 Ghostrider or "frisbee" which is described as not having any angles, so there's that at least. I've always wondered how the techno thriller novelist community could have known that the US had programs for stealth aircraft underway at the time, does anyone know?
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>>31855938
Nuclear subs already fit the bill
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>>31853286
If I didn't know it existed, how can I post it?
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>>31860862
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>>31855880
>>31855919
oh man it looks even more ecstatic than the first one
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>>31855765
Stingers make everything more bad ass.
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>>31858862
Is this what Gibbs carriers in NCIS?
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>>31860899
but who was phone?!?!?!?
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>>31855765

> Stingers on your Humvee
> Not AMRAAMS on your Humvee

The SLAMRAAM
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>>31858675
Is that the polish version?
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>>31853286
>>31854136
The weird child of a F-4 and a F-104...
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>>31855880
>>31855919
>RAF roundel

Are you sure that's not the BAE stealth jet that they quit working on and gave the data over to the JSF team when the UK joined the program??
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>>31853286
>Ilyushin Il-102
>remotely-operated tail turret
>under-wing bomb-bays
>was surpassed by the Su-25
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>>31855765

We Halo now
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>>31864235
Nope, it was shown off near the end of the JSF program and was part of the reason why the X-32 failed so miserably (we're going to show one airframe during the evaluation, then we're going to make an entirely new airframe for production!)
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>>31855938
Russians have them, though. Unless I'm totally misunderstanding the Topol-M.

Pictured: a giant mobile bridge the Israelis built to cross the Suez Canal.
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>>31864235

It has boeing logo on landing gear door. Both competitors for JSF displayed their mockups with roundels of all original partner nations before selection.
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>>31860381
The F-117 was flying as early as '83, though it wasn't revealed to the public until '88, two years after Red Storm Rising came out. It was apparently something of an open secret in the aviation tech sector that stealth was a thing being worked on, though. There's still stuff that was widely known among aviation enthusiasts in the '80s and '90s that we know nothing about, like Aurora.
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>>31864449
>>31864500
Interesting, didn't know the Laughing Jet had a version 2.. was obviously still garbage if the early F-35 beat it.
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>>31855938
>Can anyone tell me why the american idea for a mobile land based ICBM never took off?
>>31855987
>Cost and lack of a need.
>>31860504
>Nuclear subs already fit the bill

Cost, hippies and end of cold war.

LGM-118 Peacekeeper was supposed to be based on mixture of re-used Titan II silos and railways. Original plan for railway was build up few bunkers for each launcher and move missiles between those or any point in US railroad network, so Soviets would have to spend a few times more warheads to get rid of a single missile. It was expensive and hippies got pissed off because it would have involved tearing down forests and shit for railroads and tunnels that lead to nowhere.

There was also MGM-134 Midgetman small ICBM that would have been vehicle based, but it got axed due to end of cold war.
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>>31859312
I've wondered this, looking at footage from Iraq and Syria an infantry weapon capable of engaging lightly armored and un-armored vehicles more effectively then single shot 50cal rifles but less bulky and limited in range then rpgs seems like something worthwhile. Especially for the sporadic/skirmish type fighting so common there, something that can punch a few decent holes in your enemy's support vehicles and then let you cruise off back to your own lines. so far it looks like Iran has made a unique 20mm anti helicopter rifle, it'll be interesting to see if it can perform well against light armor as well.
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>>31864647
So basically the same shit that killed the BGM-109G GLCM. That, and the general arms reduction in the late '80s.
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>>31859312
You mean 40mm grenades? Your entire post is probably why China mass produces AGLs.
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>>31864680
they also made a 23mm anti material rifle
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The Rotabuggy. It was built by the Brits during the war.
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>>31864817
It actually flew but was far too impractical to be of any use.
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>>31864701

No, at least not exactly. BGM-109 and every other ground based cruise missile got canned due to Intermediate Forces Treaty along with all MRBM's and IRBM's. Part of end of cold war. BGM-109's were converted to conventional warhead Tomahawks.

Peacekeeper deployment was limited to 50 missiles due to program delays, total production run was around 120 missiles. I'm too lazy to check how many was used in testing, but there was another 50 made for railway garrison that were never deployed. During entire development the railway basing system they reduced bunkers per missile due to cost cuts. Refurbished Peacekeeper missiles are now being used as part of Minotaur IV and V orbital launch systems.

Midgetman was cancelled due to end of cold war. After couple test launches, it was supposed to replace Minuteman and was really close to becoming deployable, it was supposed to same mk 21 re-entry vehicle as Peacekeeper.

It's kinda ironic that US is still using Minuteman III after Peacekeeper was retired due to upcoming START II that would have banned MIRV's in ground based missiles. It never went into effect, given that it was already being discussed in 90's, Midgetman would have been perfect missile for that treaty.
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>>31864701

This one was killed by a treaty forbidding the use of nuclear capable land cruise missiles and another over IRBM with the range exceeding 500Km killed the Pershing II.
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>>31859295
>we did a better-than-everyone-else job at keeping our foreign fixed launch sites a secret
How could you tell?
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>>31855880
RIP that happy little bastard.
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>>31863220
Are the smaller missiles AIM-9s?
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>>31860381
Quoting from Wikipedia's article on the B-1B:
>During the 1980 presidential campaign, Ronald Reagan campaigned heavily on the platform that Carter was weak on defense, citing the cancellation of the B-1 program as an example, a theme he continued using into the 1980s. During this time Carter's defense secretary, Harold Brown, announced the stealth bomber project, apparently implying that this was the reason for the B-1 cancellation.
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MMEV, a LAV-III with a modular turret meant to act in a support role. Program was cancelled because it made too much sense. It was made to use multiple weapon systems at the same time, or be loaded out to a specific mission.

>ADATS
>CRV7
>Sidewinder
>AMRAAM
>Hellfire
>TOW 2
>M2 Browning for coax
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>>31855839

Holy shit.
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>>31864971 the Soviet Union probably only made one just to scare America lmao
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>>31859688

>army/air force cooperation

Nope, never knew that existed.
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>>31865257

Advanced Technology Bomber aka B-2 was already underway when Carter admin cancelled B-1.
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>>31866094
>ADATS

Yes.

>CRV7

Yes.

>Sidewinder

No, but it would have used IRIS-T.

>AMRAAM

No. Way too long missile.

>Hellfire

No, but probably could have been integrated.

>TOW 2

Kinda redundant with Hellfire and ADATS.

>M2 Browning for coax

No. It would have had 7.62mm chaingun.
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>>31865224

Probably.

The SLAMRAAMER (Upgrade) was also capable of firing the Sidewinder.
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>>31864971

Dat ass
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>>31866094
The only reason I know what an ADATS is is because I played WG:ALB.
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>>31866207
Army controls heading, Air Force controls altitude.
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>>31866360
TOW-2 missiles are cheaper than Hellfire's, plus still in use with M113-TUA vehicles. ADATS have been retired and are no longer being manufactured, better to have alternatives for tank busting no matter how redundant.
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>>31864214
Holy fuck. I love it.
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>>31855861
>A 15.2mm smoothbore AT rifle firing APFSDS rounds
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>>31859396
whats the purpose of this?
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>>31864971
>the quad tracked bmp
i like
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>>31864680
>>31864738
As an anti-armor guy I think thats actually a pretty ingenious solution to a military on a budget.
The USA can afford to toss jav's and TOW's around like candy, but to a place like iran they would probably need to reserve missiles for high value targets, and probably dont want to waste them on stuff like himvees and MRAPs.

You get a dozen or two of these supported by mortar and machinegun teams running around in hills and wadis it would REALLY make any mechanized movement through rough terrain difficult.

Could harass convoys and make atleast rotary air support a lot more risky, and its not too expensive either.

I mean its not incredible, still better to be able to spam ATGMs and MANPADS everywhere, but as a low budget solution its pretty smart.
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>>31868476
It's meant to help with the weight and stabalisation when standing apparently
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>>31859396
>>31868704
They clearly havent watched the Alien franchise, if they did they certainly arent trying hard enough.
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>>31855765

Interestingly, an Avenger will lock and track an RQ-7B. Ask me how I know...
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>>31868752
No
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>>31868752
>Interestingly, an Avenger will lock and track an RQ-7B. Ask me how I know...

Tiny high revving engine gets hot. Not exactly a miracle.
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>>31864449
To be fair here the DoD has changed the requirements during the evaluation and X-32 has had to be redesigned with a conventional tail to meet them - it's like they have wanted it to fail.
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>>31864608
You do know all you need to know about Aurora, it evolved into the B-2 bomber.
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>>31868726
>They clearly havent watched the Alien franchise, if they did they certainly arent trying hard enough.

Try to go prone with a steady cam rig and see how that works for you.
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For when you need to blot out the sun with a cloud of 7.62 Real Fuckin NATO.
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>>31868807
>im too autistic to get a joke: the post
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>>31868807
>Try to go prone with a steady cam rig and see how that works for you.

Not that hard.
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Stealth helicopter similar to that used in the raid in Pakistan to eliminate Bin Laden.
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>>31855880
>>31855919
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>>31868869
I was just about to post this. That technical manual was the shit.
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>>31868869
>>31868943
>That technical manual was the shit.

That prone use is also fucking retarded, but hey, good luck with that for you.
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>>31859272
Didn't that thing get it's tiny rear wheels stuck in the mud for a couple years in some of the first tests?
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>>31855765
Ok
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A heli beeing dragged behind u boats for recon ... didnt have an engine but relied on the speed of the uboat .... nazi space magic
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Also I feel this needs to be appreciated more. Maximum range: "67,450 m M9703A1 V-LAP round (tested successfully to 73,000 m by Denel in G6-52 extended range platform)"
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>>31853286
How the fuck am I supposed to post something if I don't know it exists jackass
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>>31869074
I was waiting for this
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>>31855779

Wheres the .50?
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>>31856059
This plane is pretty cool. Absolutely awesome in size. If you haven't been to the Evergreen Air museum and you live in Oregon, you're doing yourself a great disservice.
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>>31869068
Those are awesome. On one incident in the Angolan Civil War a hand full of these blew off 4 Cuban MIG during take off.
Also the V-LAP when fired from the PzH2000 only reaches 56km with the same barrel length.
pic relate is the PzH's little brother
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>>31869074
>>31869084
reading is hard
learn context and logic
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>>31868796
They changed the design well before the infamous flyoffs but all they had to show was the Happyplane that was around at the time. It had less to do with changing requirements and more to do with Boeing being unable to get their manufacturing process for the wing straightened out
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>>31869068
One of my father's university friends was a mathematician that worked on the development of the G5/6. Apparently they had massive problems with the recoil management. Said when they fired it the whole thing flipped a couple of times.

Anyhow the apartheid government paid some guy from canada or somewhere a fortune and he designed a working system in a couple of days.

Thought it is something interesting.
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>>31864299
thing had the performance of a ww2 prop driven attack plane.
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>>31853286
>He didn't know helicopters existed
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>>31855938
Because we can probably launch them out of a C17, think about it ...park one of the hundreds of C5s or C17s in a hanger, bring in a missile in sections, assemble and load then fly it anywhere in the world. If the order gets dropped just turn tail towards the target and kick it out the back
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>>31869621
>Il-102
Performance

>Maximum speed: 950 km/h (513 kn, 590 mph)
>Combat radius: 400–500 km (300–378 nmi,
>Ferry range: 3,000 km (1,621 nmi, 1,864 mi)
>Wing loading: 283 kg/m2 (58.1 lb/ft2)
>Thrust/weight: 0.58

Cool fax m9
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>>31868886

That's a prop from the movie zero dark thirty
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>>31868886

Isn't this that helicopter Snake flew at the end of Escape from LA?
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>>31869038
Why not just have a dude on a hanglider?
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>>31868869
>>31868959
>>31868943

that's not even prone
that's supine
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how are we supposed to post it if we don't know it exists
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>>31855839
>launching a peacekeeper from an LCAC

that is hilarious and awesome at the same time
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>>31869825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96A0wb1Ov9k
we've done this already
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>>31871195
Just imagine, this system and a functioning SDI satellite network.

>Reagans internally
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>>31856059
Thats a howard hughes plane right?
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>>31859922
yeah... fuck that. How much more dangerous can we get lol.
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>>31873376
It'd make for a hell of a fireworks display
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>>31859512
>Schweizer
Technically now Sikorsky, which is technically now basically LM.
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>>31864817
>>31864841
FUCK THEYRE GETTING AWAY
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>>31869609

Gerald Bull

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Bull

The Mossad killed him.
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>>31874528
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This thing doing a 'bombing' run on trenches
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The an94s competitor.
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>>31875213
What does this do that a bomb wouldn't do better?
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>>31860076
*CY-47
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>>31863220
COME ON AND SLAM
AND WELCOME TO THE RAAM
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>>31875664
uses cheaper and more available ammunition to reduce the logistical load of moving the craft equipped with that weapons package around the front.
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>>31875320 poster, the more I look at this gun, the more it reminds me of a Slavic L85.
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>/k/ design a sport fishing boat
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>>31860381
No angles? so like a klein bottle?
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>>31859922
>wander in wikipedia
>find the Williams X-Jet
I want one now.
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>>31878397
And the US version with 8 Harpoons along with the 76mm cannon
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>>31855067
Yes, this thing and the one with big ass missle pods
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>>31869609
That is really interesting, and kinda funny to report back to someone that the huge armoured spg flipped. Again.
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>>31853286
Phased plasma rifles in the 40 Watt range
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>>31859865
>Springfeild SPIW
Was such a very very very bad plan... might as well put it in a backpack and walk it in. At least the backpack would be a quick death for the user.
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>>31879172
ignore green text typo. earlier fact checking
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>>31859922
If you look closely you can see the amount of unhappy on his face
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>>31860151
what the shit did I just watch?
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>>31859443

You're wrong in every possible way.

see >>31859836
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Fun fact: The U.S. already has working plasma guns
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARAUDER
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>>31863123
Because fuck that general direction
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>>31879253
Apparently the whole fucking thing was so powerful that the govt classified the whole thing.
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Apparently the Kingdom of Yugoslavia spent the interbellum in a comic book.
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>>31879454
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>>31879454
>>31879589
In the previous issue, Tesla escaped to America to hide his raygun technology from Baron Slivovitz's giant robots. Now, Tsardom of Russia unveils its new trycicle fortress, and The Huns' bomber airships cast an ever longer shadow...
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>>31859836
Army CID get them too.

Allegedly, they were given to some undisclosed armored unit as well, if you believe the marketing wank. Or was that the SP2022... I can't remember.

>>31863192
Yes
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>>31879308
The government censors zoom-level. It doesn't take much.
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>>31879253

FUCKING LIGHTNING BALLS

AHHHHHHHH
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>>31879220

hitler doing nothing wrong

also it's a game called besiege
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>>31855938

End of the Cold War and the fact is mobile nuclear systems is a security nightmare. You will need dispersal sites.... which need to be secured and dispersal sites need to be within line of sight of satellites and certain radio antennas plus tropospheric scatter backup.

You will need to secure the convoys against all the threats so basically you will pretty much have to shut down the Interstates every time these fuckers hit the onramps. And you have to vet a lot more personnel b/c anything w/ the words nuclear is expensive not just in the delivery systems and the special weapons themselves but the crew, maintenance monkeys and security forces that have to watch the thing waiting for WW3.
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>>31880320
Actually, they are 3 foot wide rings of plasma that have the force greater than that of a train hitting you.
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>>31855938
>enough money to build silos
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>>31859604
way to project retard
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>>31864647
>cost, hippies, end of the cold war
The universal answer why all the cool shit never got built.
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>>31868869
Have fun getting up to IMT with that thing.
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>>31874642
Hi, I'm Ian from Forgotten Weapons dot com, today we are at the _____________ auction looking at a nice pair of ________________
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>>31873327
indeed it is
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These fucking things
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>>31879771
It was the SP2022 (which is not the M11), according to the marketing wank.
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>>31866207
It didn't exist. The USAF built one half, the Army built the other, and thousands of gallons of cum poured from the coastguards ass (as directed and observed by the Navy) glued it together.
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>>31854136
Nghh.. My dick...
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>>31885254
Laying a pipeline. New defined.
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>>31864299
holy shit that is right out of 40k
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Any beach any time :)
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>>31860381
It was generally believed by the public that some sort of stealth fighter was in development or low-rate production by the mid-80s.

However, just about everybody was completely fooled about the name and performance; the F-19 was believed to be more like Clancy's version, sleek and fast, and armed with at least Sidewinders.

The F-117 reveal turned all expectations on their head; whether or not there was any disinfo effort in the whole F-19 craze, it effectively shielded the real stealth "fighter" from discovery.
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Thanks to shit Thunder.
I knew germs had me262 but i didn't know they also had jet bomber and a sexy one at that's.
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That armoured train warfare was a thing.

mfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COdoHpU_a8U
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>>31870943
theyre german
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>>31888095
Why did they have to build the god damn tunnle?
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>>31888575
Because hovercrafts like that are uncomfortable to travel in, hard to pilot, and most of all they such more fuel than an actual ship whith jet fighter tier maintenance costs.
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>>31858813
This was my Job in the army
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>>31864299
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>>31868915
UGUU!!! KAWAIII!!!
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This thing right here.
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>>31888321
People really tend to forget about them for some reason. Probably because their apex was the Northern Expedition, which nobody outside China thinks about. It was quite difficult to wage a war in China in the 20s without armored trains--the standard approach to beating them was to rip up the track behind and in front of them, while ranged in with your own train.

Remember this was an era when tanks had an operational radius of something like 25 miles, trucks were hahahahaha, and horses were horses.
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>>31888321
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>>31853286
I've seen the real AH-56 in person, along with the commanche.
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>>31878971
That's some Johnny Quest tier shit.
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>>31853286
Just about half the shit in Battlefield 1, the crown jewel is this, the penderson device.
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>>3188948
>filename
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>>31889489
>playing niggerfield 1
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>>31889545
>Implying I play BF1
>Implying I just didn't look up the guns it had on imfdb or other sources
Come on, have SOME faith in me.
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>>31889563
But how would you know what the guns were in the first place?
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>>31889566
By looking up Battlefield 1's page on imfdb? Or typing in Battlefield 1 weapons on Youtube?
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>>31889576
Fair enough. I don't know why you would, though.
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>>31889591
Honest curiosity?
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>>31853286
I have used pic related a few times, (I was a 12B) but was always surprised at how many 11B's, etc. never knew such a thing existed. Rifle Launched Grapnel Hook.
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>>31875213
Must be awesome to witness, if you're not under it
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>>31868726
>>31868726

GAME OVER MAN


GAME OVER!
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>>31875213
>rifleman on the front lines waiting for the guy ahead of them to die so he can grab his nugget
>lets strap 100 ppshs to a plane tho lol
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>>31889647
Why?
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>>31888575

... the correct answer is: because they are full of eels.
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>>31889705
Why did we use them? Mainly to check for trip wires. Shoot it out over suspected mined path, assume the position and drag it back in. 99% of the time we did it manually but we did always have them on-hand if needed.
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>>31889545
>being an autistic loli-poster
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>>31888557
>theyre german

And they can build more complex hang glider.
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>>31889906
>loli
Len's a boy, faggot.
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>>31868031
It was very nearly the premier US air defense system. The Bradley ADATS was so, so very close to entering serial production. I actually have a BRADATS coffee mug from way back when.

But, of course, the US military cannot in to decent air defense, so it got shitcanned. What do we have now? Nearly thirty years later and we're still stuck with Stingers?
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>>31855765
Aw man, these things were amazing in command and conquer. I've always got that game installed.
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Rotary wing version of the fixed wing AC-130.
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>>31889489
Neat little historical artifact. Had the war dragged on in to 1919 pretty much the entire US expeditionary force would have been armed with these little fuckers. They had 65,000 devices, 1.6 million magazines, 65 million cartridges and 101,775 modified Springfield rifles ready before the war ended in late 1918.

Remove the Springfield bolt, insert the device, lock in a magazine, and you're good to go. Freedom to switch from a .30-06 bolt action rifle to a semi-auto rifle chambered in something roughly equivalent to .30 carbine in fifteen seconds for even a moderately trained conscript. Played in to the whole "walking fire" thing the US had going at the time. Every man issued a device would have five 40 round magazines, more than enough to push the Germans out of their holes.
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>>31889682
The mid to late war USSR was an industrial juggernaut. They had entire *armies* equipped with the PPSh. Honestly, sticking them inside an IL-2 is probably just an efficient way to secure storage space for something more valuable, like boots.
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>>31858862
We've had em Navy side for like 7 years now
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>>31890665
>ACH-47

You haven't seen fucking shit, son. Back in the '70s the CH-47 was very seriously considered as a candidate for an aerial artillery system with a pair of 105mm howitzers.
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>>31855583
Metal Gears replaced them
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>>31856059
Looks like a water bomber
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>>31878971
holy shit those things from snake eater are real?!
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>>31863220
>AMRAAMS on your Humvee
>not Hellfires on your infantry
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>>31868813
>f4 isnt good doesnt have any cannons
>this one is ALL CANNONS ALL THE TIME
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>>31890905
I would love to see them work that out.
Holy hell that would be amazing.
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>>31859865
Boss ?!
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>>31890983
yep
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Introduced in the 1960s, the 120 000 lbs heavy Bkan 1 was one of the heaviest SPGs during its era. Using a system of 7-round "clips", it was capable of firing 15(!) 104 lbs heavy 155mm shells in less than 45 seconds out to a realistic range of 17 miles.
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>>31868476
To help women and gays in the infantry.
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>>31891162
And the obligatory "hand me a clip so i can do some damage"
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>>31858629
What are the propellers for?
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>>31859922
Hey Private.

Tired of picking grass out of the sidewalks?

We've got an exciting new assignment for you!
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>>31856030

Russia is threatening to use their ICBMs because of increased Nato activity in europe, i'd say the cold war is continuing.
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>>31863152

seen this in arma3 didn't know it was a real thing.
looks badass with the stingers indeed.
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>>31855938
There never was and never has been a need for it. The US would know if it was targeted by an ICBM early enough (and with good headspace) to initiate a counterattack from regular silos.

In combination with ICBM launched from sea vessels, a mobile land-based ICBM would just be superfluous.
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>>31875735

KEK!
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>>31891495
Propellers are wired to fuzes. They spin upon contact with the open air and arm the bomb, be it an impact fuze, a proximity fuze, a timed fuze, or whatever. Retaining pins are used to hold the propellers in place until they've left the aircraft. Normally a loop of wire is used to free the propeller when the payload is released, allowing the bomb to arm once it enters free-fall.
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>>31891048
>can lift an air craft carrier
wat
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>>31891577
Yup. The whole thing. And the multiple other CH-53s on deck.

It's the ultimate answer to that "could God create a mountain so big even he couldn't move it" adage.
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>>31891162
It was also designed to be nuclear compatible, If made real, it would be 15 nuclear warheads in 45 seconds
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>>31891561

Modern boomer subs have basically rendered land based ICBM's useless. Why shoot a missile from Bumblefuck Flyover, USA that has to fly halfway across the planet when you can launch them from the Barents sea and be putting warheads on foreheads in 5 minutes.
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>>31891635
Because a silo doesn't need a fucking nuclear reactor, you dork.
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Skjold-klassen

8 × NSM
1 × OTO Melara 76mm Super Rapid Cannon
Mistral Missiles
12,7mm
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this book blew my mind when i was a little kid.
>pink panthers
>trench knifes
>crossbows
>pen guns
favorite book of my childhood next to the hardy boys.
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>>31891671

The spy dictionary was even cooler. My mom got roped into the DK sales lyfe when I was little and I got so many cool fucking books out of that deal.
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>>31891699
was that the one with the silenced revolver on the cover?
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>>31859648
>By the way, after they ran out of bombs, they started to drop railway track pieces on the germans at night.
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>>31891048
>>31891577

OMG I love this heli bro right up with the little bird. if I hit the lottery, it will be mine...at least for a couple months.
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>>31880558
You got your shit pushed in very hard that day. It seems to have taken you several days to recover from the booty blastment. Its ok. I think you might even see this post before the thread tanks.

Those engines though.
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>>31875213
Egärhcs musik
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>>31853286
http://www.rense.com/general85/norio.htm

The Cheyenne is not in mothballs.... IT IS USED IN ALIEN ABDUCTION PATROLS DUE TO ITS SPEED!
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/THE_DULCE_BATTLE.htm
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This fucker right here. Patria AMOS. Learned about it when I went to do my military service (Finfag).

>When fitted to a vehicle, both GPS- and inertia positioning are used. The electronic fire-control system utilises digital maps. The twin barrelled AMOS is able to keep up rate of fire of 12 rounds per minute. Using its computer-controlled MRSI feature (multiple rounds simultaneous impact) it is possible to set up a burst of up to 16 rounds that hit the target simultaneously. The first rounds are fired at higher angles with more propellant so that the rounds fly in a high arc. The next rounds are shot later with a slightly smaller angle and less propellant so that they fly a lower arc to the same target. This can be done seven times in a row, always adjusting the angle and power. The adjustment between shots is done by a computer. The strike of one AMOS unit roughly equals one strike of an artillery battery.

Saw the effects of it once in action, an absolute beast.
Finnish version is equiped with 8 mortar tubes so it is packing heat.
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>>31891845
8 mortars on one vehicle?
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>>31891865
Ah looks like I typoed hard when doing other things.
4 vehicles with AMOS (2 tubes each, total 8 tubes) can replace 9 regular heavy mortars from an artillery company. Units can aquire and fire at targets in 30 seconds and since they are vehicles they can begin relocating immediately after firing salvo, "shoot n' scoot" style.
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>>31891845
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqsxrNexjkY

the dream
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>>31891653
You forgot

>top speed: 60 knots, or 70 mph.
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>>31858680

Disney is going in an interesting direction with episode 8
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>>31863152
They should make this compatible to the Gill or Spike.
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>>31864449
Is that a Dutch air force roundel on this thing ? Can you tell me where the picture is taken ?
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>>31888304

>engine needs to be rebuilt after every 24 hours of flight time.

>german over-engineering to the point that no parts are interchangeable

MEme262
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>>31878397

[De Ja Vu plays in the background]
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>>31888321

What the fuck did I just watch.

This movie made me nervous as fuck too. It was uncanny valley at the time.
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>>31859396
Okay, that's cool as fuck.
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