Hey /k/ommrades I am looking to purchase a nugget and wanted

>>31851408

$200 or under. Anything more and you're better off investing in one of the various mausers that start at $300.

>>31851408
Izzy round receivers are usually the least expensive

>>31851408
Mosin's aren't a great investment right now. While ammo is still cheap, it went up from $0.08/round to $0.37/round in the last six months. Obama signed a ban on importation of Red Commie calibers and the surplus has been drying up fast.

>>31851408

Best price online atm.

http://www.southernohiogun.com/russian-mn91-30-762x54-cal-matching-bayonet.html

>>31851526
This. Imo you're better off trying to find a $250 mauser. Probably turkish.

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If you are going to get a nugget, and want something that is actually of pretty good quality, get a Finnish M39 Nugget. $350-$400 price range, and 7.62x54 is still very, very cheap, although it has gone up in price. Not to mention the Finnish Nuggets look pretty.

>>31851408
I prefer glock brand mosins myself, they're the best manufacturer for them around

>>31851408
Nuggets are overpriced now, unless you like the history you may as well spring for a savage axis or swiss k31.

>>31851526
>>31852151
how does ammo availability and prices for Mausers compare to Mosin ammo?

Any for under $200, and pre 1940.

>>31852537
>7.62x54r is very cheap

desu it is like 50 cents a round

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>>31854107
>K31 is reasonably priced

There surely has to be a better milsurp bolt gun in the $400-$600 range.

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>>31855442
>>K31 is reasonably priced

Those all look reasonable to me considering they're like $2000+ marksmen rifles with perfect bores.

The world record shot for iron-sights was with a stock K31 that the guy got at Big 5 sporting goods for $100.

The "nugget" as it is cringely called is a garbage, very often inaccurate rifle that was only good when they could be had for nothing and you just wanted something to fuck around with.

>>31855196

Mauser ammo is definitely more expensive than the Russian surplus ammo, but the end result is you have a gun that has much better build quality. Mausers like the K98 and 24/47 can be really fucking nice if you find a good one. A lot of people shit on Cabela's (rightfully so) for their bullshit prices, but I've seen some really spiffy Yugo 24/47's there for $300 (good/great bores, no rust, no dents, no chunks missing from the wood, etc).

>>31852537
>tumblr

>>31855505
damn (((CTR))) out in force tonight

>>31855465
Yugo Mausers, perhaps?

You can get a Finn Nugget in that range too.

>>31855570

A good Yugo 24/47 is never that expensive. You can get them all the time in the $280-$320 range with pretty good quality. I don't have experience with the other Yugo guns like the M48 though.

>>31855505
OK buddy, whatever you say.

>>31855586
An M48 should be in roughly the same range.

>>31855570
>>31855586

Two questions:
I know that Yugo SKSs are not chrome lined. I've heard that this is because of a shortage of chromium in Yugostan around the period of production.

And: Are Finn Nuggets really on a different level? I thought that a nugget was a nugget and inherently doomed to be a nugget.

>>31855681
Yugo/Serb guns are by and large not chrome lined, I don't know the reason why

Finn Nuggets have different stocks, sights and barrels. they're almost entirely new guns, with the only original Mosin parts being the receiver, the magazine, and the bolt

>>31855442
>Paid $359.99 for mine in 2013
JUST
U
S
T

>>31855723
They didn't have native chrome deposits and were unwilling to rely on outside materials.

>>31851408

This isn't 2014/2015 anymore.

> Nuggets go for $250+
> Ammo spam cans effectively no longer available for cheap

>>31855723
>>31855810
Possible, but the story I found over on some SKS forums awhile back was Yugoslavia had chrome deposits available but didn't have the metallurgical know-how to apply chrome to bores uniformly. Later on they figured this out, and some Yugo guns do have Chrome bores.

Instead they polished up the bores very finely to try and improve corrosion resistance. Sort of worked, as long as the guns were kept cleaned of corrosive deposits.

>>31855681
>Are Finn Nuggets really on a different level?
slightly better but it depends on the condition of the individual gun
an m39 that was abused during ww2 will be worse off than a russian gun that was unused then stored properly

>>31855442
>>31855505
I got mine for either $300 or $350 in... I'm pretty sure it was 2011. Canuck here, btw. It was probably $350. I bought it purely because the bolt caught my eye. At the time, I don't think I knew what a straight-pull was, or if I did, it was only in regards to the Ross and I never considered that OTHER rifles might also be straight-pull. When I found the pic, I felt like I had found some mythical item not known by man. It was fun being a stoner... and in a way, it was nice not knowing as much about firearms then as I do now. I was also working at the Fort McMurray Oil Sands back then, so yeah, $350 was fuck all. I could lose that much money at the time and not lose a wink of sleep.

>>31856306
>$350 was fuck all. I could lose that much money at the time and not lose a wink of sleep.

Get a load of this guy. Dude, nobody is that fucking rich.

>>31855442
>gunbroker
>buying anything from the fudds on there

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>>31851408
Just bought a 1941 M39 for $280. The wood is a bit beat (no cracks though) and the bolt doesn't match but the metal is in great condition and so is the bore. Look for private sales to find some decent deals. Also check out the Halloween special at SouthernOhioGun, they have 91/30s for $199.

>>31856334
I was in Fort Mac making somewhere between $1200-1800 a week. That's every week. Somewhere between $4800-7200 a month. I started in 2008 making $800-900 a week, which would be, what, $3200-3600 a month? $350 for me in 2011 would have been literally about 10-13 hours of work if I'm doing my math right. 10 hour days with 10-and-4's. That means 10 days on, 4 days off. This is all after taxes, by the way. It was good times in terms of money, but shitty times in terms of social life and... well... condition of sanity.

Speaking of nuggets and mausers, I just recently got a Yugo 24/47 and it's got a bunch of goop in the barrel (looks a lot like motor oil or vaseline). Should I clean it out with a boresnake (.32, 8mm size) and some Hoppe's solevant?

Should I be lubricating any of the other parts like the bolt?

>>31856488
insanity is wasting 10 hours of your life for a shitty K31

I make more than that now and would not just piss away $350 for shits and giggles

>>31851408
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=6749&name=Yugoslavian+Model+M48%2fM48A+8mm+Mauser+Rifles


just buy one of these instead

>>31856760
>8mm
>falling for that meme

>>31856653
I found it to be a good investment, a learning experience, and an overall smart move. I like the K31, and believe it to be a very good manually operated long-arm. Not as good as a No.4 Lee Enfield, but still VERY well made, in fact probably made BETTER than a No.4, but I find the Lee Enfield's handling to be better.

>>31851554

Literally everyone ignoring this link for a $200 mosin, and claiming mausers are better for the wallet.

Yes some of them cost the same as the Mosin, but they are significantly more expensive to shoot. You can get new production 7.62x54r for .50 a round. 8mm Mauser is .80 a round.

>>31857055

The argument isn't solely based around price. The fact remains is that nuggets can be kinda shitty in terms of quality, while most mausers are a LOT better than nuggets of similar condition.

>>31857055

You can't order from SOG without a FFL

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>>31856771
>falling for the nugget meme

>>31856343
Find me a K31 elsewhere then.

>>31857159
>Memeing the meme meme
Meme.

>>31857112

Yes you can. You complete the order, and they will email you giving you instructions telling you where your FFL can send a copy of their license.

>>31856532
soak it in gasoline, take it apart, rub it off with a towel and you should be good.

>>31856771
I-It's not a meme, delete this and raus

>>31857323

SOG is a distributor and wont ship unless the person ordering has a FFL, you will have to convince your FFL to order it himself for you.

>>31851549
will the price ever drop?

>>31860682
They stopped producing Mosins in the 40s, to my knowledge. Altered some in the 50s to turn M91/30s into carbines, but other than that, I'm pretty sure they'd have stopped making Mosins once production started on SKSs and AK-47 around 1949. They had MILLIONS of the suckers lying around... not really much call to make more. Anyways, their supply of Mosins is probably getting low, if not entirely ran dry. There's no reason to keep them because they've already produced/replaced AK47s, SKSs, AKMs, original AK-74s, and I dare say they'd have replaced original SVD-63s with more modern versions.

So if they had to dig up some surplus in an emergency situation, I'm PRETTY sure they've got more to choose from than 75+ year old M91/30s and SVT-40s. Surely they'd have sold all their Mosins off by now to make room for new surplus. In fact, look at how saturated the Canadian market is with Russian SKSs, and I think we're STILL importing them! I doubt they'd still hold onto those heavy original AK-47s what with the MILLIONS of AKMs they produced, and the fact that China is STILL producing them to my knowledge, but still, my guess is the next thing they'll be ridding themselves of is any surplus AKMs they've got. Make it so that all their reserve assault rifles are 5.45 instead of the old 7.62x39 that I assume Russia has been trying to move away from since the 70s. If the AK-12 and AN-94 end up gravitating towards replacing AK-74Ms, then my guess is that in the years to come, it'll be Russian AK-74s from the 70s/80s that will be sold next.

The question is, will America be importing when that day comes? Canada likely won't get any of them, sadly. Wish I could say otherwise, but this AK/FAL ban that I assume originated in the Cold War is probably not going to be removed anytime soon. ESPECIALLY not with Trudeau j.r.

>>31851408
Nuggets made in tula are better made and get better proformence but are more expensive, while nuggets made in izhevsk are of lower quality and get worse preformence but are cheaper than tula. Unfortunately, being a canada fag, I can't give you any good price range. Sorry, eh?

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>>31852537
This. I love my M39.

>>31860876
This is the first I've heard of it. Was Izhevsk closer to the action/bombings?

>>31851408
Late to the party but wanted to ask: I just grabbed an 1898 finn capture with the original barrel. Anyone here have an atique mosin? and how do they like it/ how does it shoot?

>>31861055

No idea, but it's an endless debate. Here's the usual info:

>Hex receivers beat round receivers
>you want a nugget that is pre-war (best option), post-war (second best option), but not from during the war (worst option)
>Tula is superior to Izhevsk in terms of quality
>look for various statuses, e.g. ex-dragoon, ex-sniper, etc; rifles with statuses supposedly were held to higher test standards and thus are of better quality

>>31861055
Izhevsk was founded during 1942, so yea

>>31861111
Whoops, ment the factory was founded in 1942

>>31861074
I see, fair enough. The wartime Mosins would DEFINITELY be the worst though. A good quality Mosin could do just about anything a Kar98k can, however of course if you get a bad quality Mosin then you'll be smacking the bolt around and will suffer from the 'inaccurate Mosin' meme. As for the whole 'without bayonet it has different point of aim', I figure that's a case-by-case issue. Some Mosins will suffer without the bayonet, but I'm certain there will be others that will be just fine.

>>31861111
So Tula has a longer history of manufacturing firearms. Though I just checked and Izhevsk is MUCH farther to the East than Tula, so if anything they were closer to the action/bombings. I guess that's the plant that originated the story in regards to test-firing their firearms by shooting out the window in the general direction of the enemy before sending it out for service.

I heard Molot sells refurbished surplus Mosin-Nagants in addition to their new ones.

Does anyone have one? Are there any differences aside from the Molot import markings?

>>31860682
No. Surplus will never be cheaper than it is today.

>>31861280
Not in America they don't. They're banned from importing here.

>>31861894
Molot is banned? But I still see Veprs though.

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>>31855505
>nugget
>inaccurate
>garbage

Try again.

>>31861074
>Tula is superior to Izhevsk in terms of quality

Says who? That's a pretty dubious claim. Tulas are only more desirable because it was a smaller factory and made less rifles.

>>31862563
Shhhh,it's pointless to try and reason with memesters.

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>>31851408
m44 or bust
>shorter, easier to manuever
>pigsticker on a cool swivel thing that folds out

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Would buying one of these be a decent first rifle?
I've had experience shooting before, namely .22 rifles and .45 handguns.
Anything to watch out for?

>>31864074
No, get a 22 or build an AR.

>>31864074

With the current prices on the nugget itself and the ammo, no. A .22 rifle like a Marlin 60 or Ruger 10/22 can be found for cheap brand new, and you can buy a mountain of ammo for basically nothing.

>>31864074
>Would buying one of these be a decent first rifle?

Sure

>>31851408

I just wanna know where the hell all the short nugs are. I'd gladly trade my longnugget for a M38/M44 plus cash if I could fucking find one anywhere, in store or online. Even all the T53s are gone.

>>31861136
I got a 1937 Izhevsk so...

>>31861136
No. no it wasn't. I'm not sure when it was established but it was certainly before the M1891 and there are examples of M91s from Izhevsk made in 1893 and earlier.

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>>31851408
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCUMv120oCw

"What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud.

It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon.

But mostly, I was just terrified.

Squeeze lightly on the trigger and the resulting explosion of firepower is humbling and deafening (even with ear protection).

The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable."

Gersh Kuntzman
Globalist Propagandist
New York Daily News

>>31851408
Look , if you live in the US , you should be buying shit like an AR-15 or semi-auto Kalashnikov variant before Hillary puts the b@ hammer down.

>>31858679

Nope, I have ordered from them multiple times. I do not have a FFL.

>>31867098
What a kunt.

>>31867098
Give this guy a Mosin

>>31869261
"What is it like to fire an M91/30? It nearly killed me, and I'm legally deaf.

It felt like shoulder-firing the nukes of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - and sounded like the Big Bang that spawned the Universe.

But mostly, I was just unconscious.

Squeezing heavily on the stiff old trigger did not prepare me for the resulting fire and destruction at the end of the barrel is shoulder-breaking and ear-bleeding (even with double ear protection).

The recoil required my shoulder to be medically amputated, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The wrestling with the bolt made me twist up my face as other rangegoers laughed at my face. The smell of corrosive sulfer and Eastern Front devastation made me sick. The explosions - loud like a bomb - made me clinically retarded. For at least an hour after firing the gun just once, I was constantly shitting myself and fearing Fascist invasion, as well as the wrath of Stalin himself should I fail."

Grosh Kuntbagh
Former Globalist Propagandist (Now clinically a one-armed retard who shrieks 'ZA STALINNA' all day.)
Formerly New York Daily News (Now constantly having his diapers changed by nurses who are getting tired of his shit.)

>>31861111

Izhevsk arsenal & steel factory became Russian state arsenal in year 1884. Tula arsenal was established in year 1712,

>>31870747
So in Mount and Blade: Fire and Sword, Tula hadn't yet become an arms manufacturing city? It's based in the 1650s as I recall.

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>>31869361