Middle East Thread "ALEPPO FALLING EDITION"

Russian navy is a disgrace

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>>31850278
SAA counter attacking, desert Hawks included. 16ton truck vbied on the 3000 block, lots of combat this morning

>>31850299
Russia isn't bombing on purpose

>>31850303
And as far as I'm aware jihadists have t really gained much ground after the 1st day, reported to be using chemical shells. Probably chlorine gas

>>31850303
>>31850310
My bad vbied was on the 1070, but they are assaulting the 3000 block as well. They still haven't taken the air defense base up north.

The southern front got off their ass and this attacking and JAI lost tel kurdi in ghouta.

>>31850331
https://twitter.com/mutafail_/status/792485609952710656

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>>31850331
>>31850394

>tfw no mounted single tube GRAD gf

I wanna see more of this beauty in action

>>31850303
The best defence is offense

>>31850299
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I-4LiDWVLM

Assmad fatniki detected, try and declare that no fly zone and see what happens

JFS GoPro at the "sawmills"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3T4QJ6-nLw

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>>31850599

usually not when talking about the SAA

this time they seem to get their shit togheter

>>31850605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4RJ-mS0yAg

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>>31850710
>thumb over sight grip
New meta?

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>>31850971

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Quick hits than I am calling it a day.
-Major victory for the SAA at Tel Kurdi as JAI withdrew under pressure. Map included.

-Battle near Darra for a abandoned air defense battalion has been ongoing all day as rebels are attacking SAA forces there. SAA still holds it

-Pro SAA forces took control of the infantry school northern Aleppo as IS continues their slow retreat out of Aleppo.

-Breaking the siege fighting has slowed down as TIP is still fighting for the last parts of 1070. SAA/Shia militias still hold most of 3000 and Assad military school. Jaf also continues to target SAA convoys on Khansaer road hitting another one today.

Video is a Qasioun reporter driving into Al Assad suburb. I remember the curve in the road where 3 Jihadist "combat cyclists" drove through.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn9IFa2xI0w

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>>31850278
And what is Alepo?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I7TFSJBEUI

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>>31850278
Allahu akbar indeed

We'll see if the SAA can handle things by itself this time

>>31851389
Ghouta has gotten A LOT smaller over the last 5 years

Looks like we are entering the final chapter.

>>31851458
I know these are just the pawns of the evil Salafist overlords, but I can't help but appreciate the Houthis removing more Salafis from the world.

>>31851389
They should cut south through Hawsh Dawriha and try sealing the pocket.
Or they should cotinue and take Rayhan like they had before. Rayhan is probably in a weakened state right now.

What do you think?
And where do you think the SAA will go?

The Rebels simply don't have the ability to make operational moves anymore. It's just defend till they surrender for now.

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>Iranian tandem

When are we going to celebrate the fall of the last faggots in aleppo?

>>31851879
Probably this Christmas

>>31851899
that would certainly be good timing.

>>31851932
you really believe there are angles and stuff? haha

btw: 5 years war in syria, almost the same in iraq and in lybia. thats pretty good for an private islamic army without air force.

>>31851458

Why are the Houthis so much more decent and honorable than the Sunni subhumans in Syria?

They don't behead captured enemy, the censor the faces of the dead, they don't desecrate the corpses etc.

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>>31851705

>5 years of combat

>In this same span of time, WW2 was fought with armies sweeping across entire continents and nations

>Meanwhile, sand niggers engage in part time tribal warfare balcony combat that never ends

Sand niggers are shit.

>>31852095
Because Sunni are subhuman scum.

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>>31852095
because they want their yt-accounts keep alive? because houthi's are supported by the yemenin television stations?

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cool?

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>FeelsGoodMang.jpg

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video of weaponsystems mainly used/faved by FSA Rebels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyCoeBN5Hh0

>>31852202
fat arty guy yeah

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more volunteers join the ranks of white helmets aleppo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-oEWrJbFS8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCJCzraRbpQ

"FSA, our leaders"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf68lDGOJps

Nour al Dein al Zenki storming Maniyan, Aleppo

>>31850278
The whole deal with Kuznetsov is absolutely ridiculous.The Soviet Navy was almost completely defensive in nature, they did have a few amphibious assault ships but they would never see serious use. Most of their navy vessels are still Cold War relics apart from a handful of modern vessels, which makes this show of force pretty ridiculous. The fact that Kuznetsov is actually leaving the North Atlantic is bizarre seeing as how its not really a carrier in the traditional sense but rather a CG capable of deploying fighters to cover it while it would coordinate with ground based naval aviation to attack enemy ships with its own cruise missiles. Yet now its being used for ground attack and counter insurgency in Syria.

They only took it out for posturing, Kuznetsov's aircraft are "multi-role" fighters (ccrp capable) that are inferior to the ground based aviation units that are already in use there. Kunzetsov was always a mess and taking it out of the area it was built to operate in has both made it more difficult to use and more or less shows that it was mostly political pressure that has placed it in the Mediterranean. Its a sad show of force that would've been more effective had Kuznetsov stayed home.

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>>31852359
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>>31852389

Its funny how russia sends it out as a "show of force" but the entire world mocks and laughs at the piece of shit. russia would do itself a favor by turning it into an artificial reef.

>>31852395
looked like a fallout 3 screenshot from the thumb

syrian Town Tel Osiabin preparing for battle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIO4xeat2wk

>>31852455
indeed. looks like video game.

>>31852107
I mean it'd be a lot different if this were an Arab/Middle East world war but I mean it's just Iraq and Syria, whom put together are about the size of Texas.

If it were Iraq, Iran, Jordan, Syria, turkey, Saudi Arabia, The rest of the gulf states, Israel and Egypt, it would be a lot different. Though that wouldn't happen with out the rest of the world having to get Involved.

Reason number 2 why you're retarded Germany did some sweeping, in based Russia lines didn't change much until 1944

>>31852282
>the ranks of white helmets aleppo

jihadist islamic scum

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Aleppo veterans and a very upset reporter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKQX4x6eDIk

heavy rockets hit yakuzie filled with assadistic elements

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85x_N6LMQ70

Well, looks like the government reinforced west Aleppo correctly this time, and the rebels have already lost steam, with the SAA regaining ground today.
Seems like the retreat from Al-Assad was strategical, as having troops there would mean that the rebels would be able to hit them from two fronts. Although retaking the place will be hard.

>>31852610
Sandniggers and jihadist subhumans shell people. The bombing will return, hope they SU-35 the fuck out of those towelhead subhumans.

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new spaceage sniper ammo arrived today

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>>31852389

>>31852617
I was thinking the same about the momentum. It doesn't seem like they will break the siege. It also looks lige serious reinforcements are on their way to Aleppo.

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>>31852428
>>31850299

>>31850605
>can't make it from the northern fleet to the med without stopping despite every ship in the 'fleet' they sent having 10k+ km range all because they're afraid to do at sea replenishment ops

seems pretty disgraceful to me famalam

Army of Conquest escorting civilians out of western Aleppo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY3hz_GSF4c

>>31852664

Wut

>>31852389

>not sending shit out for practice

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>>31852665
While some of these aircraft do have potential use in Syria, like the gunships and the MiGs, it still is absurd that the Kuznetsov has traveled so far just so that it could use 3 MiGs and 4 Ka-52s.

The ground based aviation in use by the Russian Air-force consists of Su-24s, Su-34s, and Su-25s. When it comes to larger aircraft the Tu-22 has seen extensive use. The Kuznetsov really doesn't bring much else to the table except exorbitant maintenance costs.

>>31852709
typically one would finish maintenance and make sure it can work before sending something out on deployment

if you want practice, exercises are far better

why are there so many go pros everywhere?

are they in the UN aid deliveries or something?

>>31852760
It's fine if they're there to provide air cover, but using them on bombing runs is silly. To my knowledge they don't even have targeting pods, so they're simply far less effective in this role than Su-34s (to be fair i'm assuming the Su-34 has a targeting pod, but since the Su-24M has one I can't imagine the 34 doesn't).

>>31852773

>if you want practice, exercises are far better

>exercises
>better than the real thing

Nope.

>>31852709
>t sending shit out for practice

The issue is that Kuznetsov isn't like most carriers in that it was designed to take part in action around the world. It was designed to engage vessels in the North Atlantic alongside backfires and other vessels, its aircraft are really a defensive measure. Sending the Admiral to Syria isn't going to get them kind of experience they need.

>>31852773 makes a good point as an exercise in the North Atlantic would net far more useful experience in operating the carrier.

>>31852813

Whatever it was designed for - that's not its role anymore, since the things it was supposed to work with in tandem are long gone. Also, they removed the P-800s from it iirc, so referring to its original role is moot.

>>31852829
>Also, they removed the P-800s from it iirc

They haven't yet, they're doing that on it's next refit.

>>31852835

Ah...wow, that was in the works for like half a decade now.

>>31852774
this isnt the swat valley

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>>31852798
The issue is that the "real thing" isn't even something the carrier was designed for, or is even equipped to do well at the moment.

>>31852797 Thats true, but I can think of a lot better ways of finding escorts.

>>31852829
Well the missile tubes are still there. That and it really isn't a ship that will be able to adapt to another role very well, there's a reason the Soviets were the only people to build aviation cruisers. Kuznetsov's flight group has very limited offensive capability, that and the ships infamously poor reliability record hampers it further. If anything it would work best as part of an ASW group.

costal guys gently insert tow into assadists lattakia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85x_N6LMQ70

>>31852893

I think it's more a matter of Russia only having one pretend carrier, so they want to use it like a carrier.

>>31852899
Jihadists subhumans will be inserted bombs from SU-35

>>31852899
And our media says something about Russians bombing indiscriminately and on the other hand supporting these osama bin ladens :) Noice :)

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Killed more than 50 militants, including Field commanders from "Front victory" and "Ahrar al-Sham movement" officials while trying to attack the direction of the Syrian army positions in the center of the deserted battalion of Dael and Abtaa in the countryside of Daraa north, where the army was able to pull 35 bodies of the attackers so far.

>>31852760
Hey, russian navy pilots need real fighting experience too.

>>31852934
Noice, bodies of towelhead sandnigs

>>31852760
>>31852893

I imagine the reason they're deploying it is to be able to show they have an aircraft carrier before it goes in for it's refit, where it will be unavailable for several years. It's their last shot for awhile to show it off.

>>31852899
Anon, why do you support these terrorists?

>>31851099
Who draws those ?

>>31852966
Probably anti-russian idiot from degenerative ukraine, that will support anything vs russians.

>>31852922
>>31852933
>>31852966
there is the video from lattakia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maY2VP3paeo

>>31852389

Maybe they want to get combat experience and address deficiencies that show up as well as the projection of force, which sort of worked the way the British got their panties in a knot.

Functionally speaking, yes it makes not much sense to send that group over there when the assets that are already there can do the job.

Or maybe it's backup in anticipation of something larger.

>>31852993
Anon, you didn't answer my question. Why do you support terrorism?

>>31850278
I want to join the YPG so badly, I just have no skills or military background, cannot speak Arabic or Kurdish, and am 19. So it seems hopeless.

I just have no reason to live and cannot continue down the path I am on or in the environment I am in. Would they still take me? Maybe just as cannon fodder? I'd rather die helping the Kurds than from an overdose or something.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1Vm7vfGpUA

>>31852760
>just so that it could use 3 MiGs and 4 Ka-52s.
The real advantage is that they can test a variety of PGMs against living targets.

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>>31853026
this is information
information wants to be free

>>31853148
They already have ground-attack aircraft in Syria to do that.

>>31852107
>Sand niggers are shit.

It's a civil war mate, it's not like WW2 where you could say "Oi what the jerries are being a bit shit, let's firebomb their towns," these are your own towns that you expect to keep once the war is over.

>>31852798
>exercise where you get everything ready and then do it so that way everyone gets experience in operations is worse than sending shit out half assed that doesn't work so less than half the crew gets any real experience

0/10

>>31852617
Yeah they should have tried ramousah again

>>31852389
hope it breaks down desu

>>31852774
I assume Turkey

VERY PROFESSIONAL FOOTAGE

First Division Coastal targeting regime forces stationed in Kinsabba Castle shelf-point bursts of Grad rockets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adfcCpZi2Qg


the costals should be the closest gang facing russian imperialists right?

>>31852914
>pretend carrier

What does this even mean?

>>31853362
It cannot launch full loaded aircraft and breaks down every 5 minutes.

>>31852938
I always just assumed they were Air Force pilots just trained to operate the Naval aircraft.

>>31852665
That's the entire air wing? Pretty pathetic

>>31853052
They'll take anybody. There was even a fat autist I heard.

I was going to go with a group but one of our guys bailed and I couldnt scrounge up the cash to get to Iraq even if I sold everything I had. Last two in the group supposedly went and one guy joined Peshmerga cuz he had prior military experience (I bet it was the guy that made the starship troopers reference in one of the videos).

>>31852934
Wew

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>>31853407
Everyone but me bailed on the group I was set to go with. Things turned out alright.

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>>31852640
Wow, u so edgy.
Empty cans rattle the most.

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Russian air forces started a campaign of airstrikes targeting JabhatAlNusra Terrorists in all the axises in west of Aleppo.

>NO Proofs

>>31852665
So if the Mig-29KUBR is down for maintenance/other issues (which statistically it will be a good portion of the time), they just don't have it?

>>31852993
Where exactly do they get these TOWs.

Also, they don't look to useful for antipersonnel roles.

>>31853342
Shouldn't one look to see where they are landing before he shoots all his rockets?

>>31853434
Did you end up fighting? Can you tell me anything of the process to join? Extremely interested.

>>31853373
>it

What is "it"?

The Kutz went from the White Sea to Latakia in 14 days. Hard to do that if it breaks down every 5 minutes.

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ISIS new suicide wests in Iraq & Syria.

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>>31853508
hot meme dude, would upvote if i could

>>31853456
What?

Do you think they just fighters on the carrier after preparing for this trip for 6 months?

>>31853525
I think that sentence structure got a bit messed up, but I think I get what you meant. It's not a knock against Russian planes, when you're looking at availability rates, getting above 70% availability with fighters is amazing in any nation's air force. If they only have one of those aircraft alot of the time they won't actually have it available, especially if they're flying it hard since it's their only one and having to put alot of maintenance time into it after every sortie to keep it going.

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Some of the best frontline footage I have seen from Syria. It even has multiple terrorists in frame, firing directly at camera.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e99_1477729067

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What is a "leppo"?

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>>31853492
I did fight eventually. The way I did it was mostly organized via the Lions of Rojava on Facebook though AFAIK it's changed.

>>31853148

Exactly. Better to find out what works and what doesn't against an enemy that can't really fight back than find out what works and what doesn't against one that can.

>>31853676
Lions of rojava is what I have been pointed too but them seem pretty dead. Any idea the new channels or is this an inappropriate thing to ask?

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>>31853750
Not inappropriate but I don't know any surefire ways. Try looking up "Rojava Combat Medics", that's a new page and you might be able to find a way through them.

>>31853771
>Rojava Combat Medics
Thanks friend, Would you mind answering a few more questions about joining up? Like running cost, what to bring, cultural things to be aware of? If I do end up going over I'd like to be as less of a liability as I can, as well as respectful to the Kurds themselves. I'm just worried because of my age and zero military experience just making me a massive liability.

>>31850303
>16ton VBIED
How do you counter something like that when fighting in a city? That's ridiculous.

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>>31853796
My cost was 2200 Canadian Dollars for a plane ticket and then a few odds and ends when I was actually there. Bring clothes, a good backpack, and good old 'Murican green, You never know what kind of stuff the money will be needed for. As for cultural things: even if you're full on "Gas the Kikes race war now" level Nazi, shut up and don't shit talk their ideology. Be polite, eat your food even if you hate it. Try and learn every bit of their language that you can. Point to things and say "Ev chiya?" basically asking "What's that?" Use it as much as you can. Tea is a big socializing thing, even if you don't like it just dump sugar into it and have a nice mug of "chat with people who you can't speak to". I knew plenty of people with little to no experience that did well just by learning as much as they could.

>>31853898
Alright that seems easy enough for me at least. Being a filthy gommie will help I guess and having to real racial animosity. A few last things, what military experience did you have going in? Would someone you with none at all be taken seriously or just seen as a foolish westerner?

>>31852934

Looks like Allah doesn't save you from field artillery.

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>>31853942
I only did basic training in the military, and as I said I knew people with zero military training. But they took what they were doing seriously, didn't badmouth whatever they were given, and absorbed every bit of knowledge they could.

>>31854024
I guess just an eagerness to serve is needed. Now just to really meditate on if I should or not I guess.

>>31853898
>>31854024

I heard that only scumbags and bottom feeders of society join up from the West.

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>>31854091
>only scumbags join up to kill the second worst thing afflicting the world today

>>31852071
Only because they are suicidal and nobody is using suicidal people except jihadis.
That's why they're successful, they turned themselves into extra ammunition.

What would happen if somehow Japan convinced suicidal ronery nippon hikkikomoris to become the next glorious samurai kamikaze ? Like give them a katana and a last night with a patriotic geisha telling them she will always remember them and they have to be brave for glorious nippon yada yada.

Now you have PER YEAR at least 35000 suicide bombers driving any kind of VBIED you can think of. And they're fucking japanese. They can be the fucking worst. Like they would turn these isis fags into waifus or shit.
That's one hundred big ass explosions from a VBIED PER DAY.

kebabs status : buttblasted.

Just think about it. These arab suicide bombers just kill themselves. How many people in the west kill themselves every year ?
Tell these people "hey wanna get revenge on the shitskins who made your life so shit ?" and boom you have a 1000 times the "vbied force" isis has for a penny and two cents.

You can even fit some ACTUALLY RELEVANT kind of explosive ordnance on their vehicles as well as actual armor. Because we're the fucking west and not some goatfuckers.

That would be something, right ?

>>31852934
glorious !
Can't mossad the Assad !
>>31853946
topkek

>>31853026
because he's a degenerate ayyrab who didn't realised the closest thing his kind ever had to a working civilization is the baath party. Even if that's a shitty party.

Every decent arab I know supports Assad. The rest are wannabee thugs yelling "aloha snackbar" as the subhumans they are.

The funniest part ? they are very antisemite, but recently they began to praise the jews for helping them against assad.
Have you remarked nobody talks about palestine these days ?
not that I care but still funny.

Truly subhumans.

>>31854525
>/k/: weaponizing suicidal NEETs and lolicons for the greater good
Fucking fund it.

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>>31853946

Air strikes & Shilkas

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>camo

Think rebels will break the Aleppo siege yet again, this time through even more dense city?

If they do I think that will be incredibly telling and embarrassing. The lines haven't shifted for a day, but they are throwing fists like crazy on the 3 sectors.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qBZlkUDizc

>>31853231
Counter-Point: Spanish Civil War, or "El Civilo Warro Espania" in their language

>>31855403
those are some scuffed boots

>>31853571
They have 12-14 airplanes though

At least 8-10 are in completely active states based upon the (bullshit) 70% number.

>>31853676
Thank you for making turks butthurt.

>>31853827
RPG

>>31854363
A-and what's the first anon?

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>>31856077
You already know my friend.

>>31856073
I do my best, anon.

>>31853827
Anti-vehicle berms or barricades. Which doesn't have to be very robust for a non-BMP SVBIED. Sometimes I don't know about the SAA, its been a long time, they have to be learning. In the city areas there should be no passable roads from the front line.

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>>31856046
If you follow the reply chain you'll see I was specifically talking about the single Mig-29 they have dedicated for tanking and EW purposes, not the air wing in general.

And 70% is a pretty solid number for fighters.

>>31854525
wew okay senpai.

The rebels have lasted a long time because Syria is literally being pumped full of the jihadis of the world.

>>31855403
Pretty much no one in the Middle East can read that

Does anybody remember the name of the tug traveling with the Russian "fleet"? I'm trying to track it on marine tracker.

>>31856458
Nikolay Chiker

>>31856458
Possibly the Nikolay Chiker? According to Vesselfinder anyways it's currently off the coast of Sicily.

https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=8613334

>>31856472
>>31856515

Thanks guys! Looks like they're getting close.

>>31852617
It was doomed from the beginning.

Their only option is a massed attack at one weak spot, not a large scale offensive move across a broad frontline. They didn't had the men last time to keep a larger gap open.. they don't have the men now.

>>31852774
You can order them from Aliexpress for like 15 bucks

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>Posers conform to the beliefs of others.

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>>31852202
>grads on transporters

>>31852395
>>31852413

Pretty Mad Max extra armor on that tank.

>>31853942
Kill yourself red.

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So we can safely say now that the rebels are pretty much finished in Aleppo unless Turkey chimps out and directs their pets towards north Aleppo. Looks to me Al Assad district was zone to be sacrificed for a mini defense in depth wearing out the attackers completely losing any momentum they had. Reb opsec must suck ass

>>31859652
If they aren't able to break through within today i think your statement might be correct. Each day the defenders can dig in more.

I doubt the turks will do something risky though.

>>31859672
That's what people were saying before they shot down a Russian jet

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>>31859629
no u

>>31859930
The pilot who shot down that Russian jet was also among the pilots who bombed the capital city of Turkey. And now he is in jail.

>>31859995
What a lad

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>Spooky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk-DI185Sgg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnoDvedCe4M

>>31859672
>>31859652
The first offensive was also stalled, once it reached Apartment 1070 and the Arty College. I think it was the second day and since then we had 5 days of non-stop Assad fags telling us how they resecured 1070 and how the offensive had failed; until the rebels stormed the Arty College on day 6 and Ramousah on day 7, opening the siege.

That said, I also have the feeling that the rebel offensive has lost steam abit too soon and there is a high possibility that it could be reversed soon.
Still, as long as the rebels held their frontlines it would have been a success (i never bought into this being an offensive to break the siege, its too densely populated to break through in one go. But I have a feeling, that the rebels wanted to push the frontline into 3000 Apartement for a future follow-up offensive to break again into Ramouseh and open the siege. right now al-assad neighborhood is too little for one future push into Eastern Aleppo being possible, but still a good starting point)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQE9XAZT3Yg

Also, the Mosul Campaign made large steps this weekend after kinda stalling the last week.

The iraqi army has reached the southeastern corner of the city of Mosul; the Kurds in the east are doing their thing but slower (which made it funny, how MSM keeps reporting with a very kurdish-centric pov about their 'lightning advances' and 'huge battlefield victories' when they are the least successfull of the three involved forces right now. which of course doesnt say much, because they do it the proper way and dont intend to lose the clay again)
The PMU (shia militias) who have joined this weekend, took a large number of villages in their northern offensive, where ISIS keeps retreating to Tal Afar.

There is also the continuing or even escalating tension with Turkey, with the Sultan saying that the shias are on their way to genocide the poor turkmen population of Tal Afar and maybe, just maybe the turkish army might move in to prevent sectarian massacres in that rightfully turkish town.

Why does it seem like a lot of the Iraqi security forces wear naval camouflage? It seems an odd choice considering they're operating in a desert that has minimal water at most.

>>31861146
Probably because that's what availçable for them at the moment?

>>31860497

>two steps from hell plays in the background

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>>31851389
Quick hits again
-Rebels took heavy casualties(between 26 to 40) attacking the abandon air defence battlion. Southern fornt fail again although I think some non southern front were involved. Pic is dead.

-Breaking the siege fighting continues to be slow as the lines are about the same. TIP has a video from 1070. Their VBIED blew up whatever was left of the SAA militias there. VBIED Video below. Also a good drone overview of 1070 and 3000 terrain. Second video is ANNA of the Assad military school.
TIP 1070
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEL2IobBclY
ANNA with the SAA side of the battles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQE9XAZT3Yg

-eastern Ghouta lines still the same since the SAA took Tel Kurdi. JAI in trouble. They only have a finite amount of fighting left however still hold core areas like Doma.

>>31861249
That was yesterday, 5 star.

Regarding Ghouta, the SAA should focus on Rayhan to isolate Douma and then shrink the pocket from the east, leaving only Douma and the southwestern parts of it. No farms, no food, no opposition.

>>31861272
I know it was yesterday. I follow up on what I was looking at before. If you have lel super current now information than post it. The only current fighting in Aleppo is some rebel shelling on 3000 apt projects but I didn't think it is a big enough deal to mention it.

>>31855548
Beautiful photograph!

>>31861300
SAA and rebels have also been trading Maynan or whatever it's called back and forth for a while.

>>31861306
True , the line has been about the same though. As for who holds what in Maynan is contested.

>>31852938
I figured this is the main reason the Navy is involved too. Don't have to be privy to any secret intelligence briefings to know the value of combat experienced pilots.

>>31861318
Exactly.
What do you think about the rebels losing steam with this offensive?
Do you think they'll pull a surprise move like they did in the colleges and throw >800 guys at once against a single point in western Aleppo to try and break the siege, or at least capture and hold strategical areas like tghe academy? Or do you think it's already over?

>>31861331
We are on day 4 right? The SAA took all of Handarat and Owji before stalling out and you didn't hear me saying that their offensive had failed. They could have taken pocket giving them more time. There is still a lot of fighting left for all sides. As long as rebels have their footholds like Al Assad/1070 anything could happen. Two wildcards are the Ruaf and the rebels inside the pocket attacking outward.

>>31860619
>I think it was the second day and since then we had 5 days of non-stop Assad fags telling us how they resecured 1070 and how the offensive had failed; until the rebels stormed the Arty College on day 6 and Ramousah on day 7, opening the siege.

IIRC the Rebels took the arty college 3 days after the actual start (not the announced start).

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>>31860497
Ahhh the finest SAA training on display

Also, I can tell these are sunnis based upon this (and their words).

>>31860694
So where exactly are your sources for the Iraqis already getting to Southeast Mosul?

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SITH warriors with video controlled machineguns arrived in aleppo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBZV4s4PIfM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tZ0PE0iEis

Music from Yemen

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>>31861664
Multiple sources are reporting it, among them Reuters. Take the one you trust.
Supposedly large parts of Gogjali were captured.

>>31861568
The offensive started on 31.07 with the attack on the al-Hikma school and Apartement 1070. The Artillery College fell on 06.08.

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>>31852934
>woodland
>innasand
But why

>>31850299
Russia's Navy is looking pretty good compared to 80% of everyone else's navies.

As a Canadian, I wish we had anywhere near Russia's tonnage and hull numbers.

>>31852699
Couldn't they just pull into Tartus if they want to refuel?

>>31862890
Fellow leaf here, who would man/pay for the navy though?

>>31855212
That is a very well lit up hanger..

>>31862890
But Canada has a somewhat superior economy, if you started neglecting your populace and pumping a large portion of your funds into the military you'd equal the in no time.
Not that you'd get any use out of it though.

>>31863102
Trudeau, but he'd take money out of the airforce, army, RCMP, and from the navy ;)

Some updates from the battle of Mosul
ISOF (Iraqi special forces) have supposedly entered the Mosul suburb of Karama. It is only speculation but it is not improbable considering that Iraqi security forces have made major gains to the west of the city (which is where the suburb is located in). The golden division is just 7km's away from the city center as of recently.

This comes as Kurdish fighters have captured several strategic hills as well as villages from the Turkish backed rebels in Northern Aleppo. With their current gains, the Kurds are able to threaten the Turkish/Syrian border crossing

>>31863102
If our nation's government didn't keep beating our military with a budgetary stick since the 70's, we'd have both the infrastructure & manpower to field them.

People look at our current military state and become demoralized prior to to joining up, what with veterans having to throw lawsuits at VA just to get hearing aids or pension payment.

>>31859995
How convenient!

I know the thread is dead but i'm not posting to bump. There was serious fighting between the SDF and Turkish backed FSA near Mare tonight again. Early result is the FSA repelled the attack but that is from pro rebel sources.

I think IS giving the infantry school to pro SAA SDF was a clear sign IS is playing both against each other, not that they wouldn't fight each other anyway but IS is throwing fuel on the fire plus the SAA/Ruskies DO NOT want Turkish backed FSA getting near them. This is like a soap opera of alliances.

>>31862341
>The offensive started on 31.07 with the attack on the al-Hikma school and Apartement 1070. The Artillery College fell on 06.08.

I don't agree

>>31865016
This war just gets more confusing

>>31865016
Goddamnit
The Middle East was a mistake

dat red eye

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QzFzUVBLoI

>>31853462

They use the shit out of TOWs for anti personnel roles in syria. I daresay its one of their primary roles.

>>31865249
Goddamnit
The Middle East was a mistake
t. US state department

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Is ISIS just going to slowly abandon this entire area, so then it becomes a Kurd + FSA + SAA cluster fuck?

>>31867131
I mean, that is ISIS's best hope right now. Get all the other factions to kill each other then come back stronger in a few years with funding and support from its various international affiliates.
As long as it can hold Raqqa I'd imagine that is their strategy. At least, its what I'd be going for.

>>31867597

Problem with that is that everyone will see an opportunity to rub them off the map if they see them go to the defensive. Having them gone benefits Rebels and Anti-Assad forces the most, they have the strength to take them now and will likely do. Its territory they are going to need if the SAA keeps the pressure.

>>31867131
It's hard to predict ISIS. They are the least transparent of all the factions.

Are they religious fanatics trying to fulfill a prophecy on the plains of dabiq?

Or ruthless militants simply hellbent on power and acquiring sex slaves?

It all comes down to the nutjobs at the top and whatever bizarre rationalization they might make.

>>31855758
Counter point it's been well over half a century since then

>>31867131
I didn't know the Afrin YPG had the strength to advance so fast. It seems like they are really committed to idea of connecting the cantons. Leaves them a bit exposed advancing on that narrow strip doesn't it?

does the real fun in Mosul start today?

>>31850399
Green: area controlled by "fighters" i.e. extremists
Red: area controlled by the regime
Blue: area currently blockaded

what is Aleppo?

>>31868474
It's a Leppo mate

>>31853444

But that's a Serbian hottie you posted...

>>31868194
Riposte: time is a flat circle

>>31868073
They're not easy to catch once they've packed up into their toyotas

>>31859995

You know why? Because Erdogan said to Putin that the pilot responsible for shooting down the Russian plane, would be trialed. And boom, a couple days later, the coup started.

That pilot had every reason to stage a coup against Erdogan. Talk about a knife in the back

https://twitter.com/Nidalgazaui/status/793417325504520192
>ISIS has recaptured 10 villages from Turkish backed rebels in northern Aleppo
But... why? What does ISIS gain from an offensive here when the Kurds are pushing out from Afrin?

>>31868874
Don't think its all about logic and "gain" back there.

Maybe it was just about "muh honor" and to show those "filthy FSA dogs" that true warriros of Islam don't run from them or any other reason.

>>31868883
Eh, idk f a m, I've followed this conflict too long to think ISIS is dumb enough for that, the most reasonable course of action I could see is them attempting to force an offensive posture from the rebels leading both them and the kurds to attack in the same area spurring infighting.

https://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/losing-mosul-regenerating-in-diyala-how-the-islamic-state-could-exploit-iraqs-sectarian-tinderbox
Interesting article on ISIS's post Mosul plans if anyone is interested btw.

>>31868895
ISIS is not some kind of islamic masterminds..

>>31868904
They're an experienced insurgent group with leadership dating back to when Saddam was in power.

>>31868912
>with leadership dating back to when Saddam was in power.

Most of which is dead already and their ranks are full of recruits. Some of them don't even speak arabic.
You really think they are immune to mistakes or rash decisions?

>>31868924
Oh no, I'm not trying to say that. They've had their fair share of fuck ups. I.E. Hasakah, or Kobane.
That being said, I tend to give them and the rest of the participants in this war the benefit of the doubt considering they've at minimum spent the past 5 years at war. I'd be prone to thinking they're trying to stoke tensions between two parties over just being retarded, especially since divide and conquer has been the MO since AQI.

Except the shia militias though. They fucking suck.

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atm roaches crawl towards Iraq border... Iraqis already "warned" them. bigger war on the way ?

http://ewn.co.za/2016/10/05/Iraq-warns-Turkey-of-regional-war-if-doesnt-withdraw-troops

>>31869053
Could the Iraqi military even do anything against Turkey?

>>31869069
Iraqis + kurds + offshoots

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anyone ID this warhead

>>31869069
Iraqi military has modern US stuff.. so yes.

>>31869245
Chinese type 69 HE

>>31869245
It's teh typical RPG warhead with a tiny witch hat in the tip.
Arabs are getting into Halloween it seems.

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>>31869245
Rpg-7 with Chinese airburst HE/frag
(number 13 in picture related)

Source:http://www.armyrecognition.com/russia_russian_army_light_heavy_weapons_uk/rpg-7_anti-tank_grenade_rocket_launcher_technical_data_sheet_specifications_information_description.html

>>31869326
>>31869337
plus: chinese camo

>>31869245
looks like a rocket propelled grenade (RPG)

>>31869319
Turkey has air superiority though.

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>>31850278
Battle is over. Glorious Turkey has won.

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>>31869626

>>31869678
SOHR

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>>31869678

>turkroach yellow pappers fantasis

>>31869326
I was wondering if the Type-69 and RPG-7 ammo is compatible and exchangeable. Do you know it?

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>>31869626
Hmmmmmmmm

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>>31869626

Nice try turkroach

Question: Why is it called the Syrian Arab Army and not just the Syrian Army?

>>31869913
Because of Baath politics and arab/syrian independence.

Basically to show that they are an army free of western/french influence.

Footage of Abrams getting hit by an ATGM.

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/790615617791520768

Is the crew going to be okay?

>>31869931
>This shit again
Vatniks will tell you everyones dead, even the crews grandmas, Fatniks will tell you they had a party while getting hit and didnt even notice, while the rest can assume that the blowout panel and blast door could have done their job like intended and save (some of) the crew.

>>31869913
I always figured it was named in tune with the other Pan Arabism stuff around the time of Nasser & Co
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Arabism

So the aleppo counter attack by the rebel failed ?

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>>31869931
>>31869945
holy niggertit that's a big ass blast and fire

not a chance in hell those the crew survived

>>31870039
Looks like it stalled, yeah.

I was surprised the amount of armour they were able to muster. I remember with the previous Aleppo pocked piercing all the armour the rebels had lost and I pictured that being all their armour gone. But nope not really, seem unimpeded, keep seeing BMPs and tanks.

>>31870039
Eh, I wouldn't say that yet. I'd wager they're just getting their logistics in order before continuing.

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>>31870043
holy babushka that is a big assblast and bait

not a chance in hell this aint a troll post

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anyone ID this

>>31870270
Fire is good, i means its outside the tank.

I bet the crew didnt even notice

:^)

>>31870855
yeah its like when johnny went with dad to BBQ

>>31870104
That's what happens when the US and Britain force the Ruskies to stop bombing Aleppo for 14 days.

>>31853362
it's 70% cruiser, 30% carrier

>>31853401
it's a cruiser that can carry aircraft, as opposed to a carrier in the western sense of the word. Our carriers don't have much in the way of offense outside their aircraft, whereas the russians approach was to make a missile cruiser with a runway on it

Anyone else kind of miss the glory days of 2013- mid 2014 when Darth Vader and the empire were winning? It was just constant oh my god they actually did it, absolute madmen! Next to no opsec, Twitter posting, ISIS assaulting Kobane with 11 T-55s like they're a Soviet tank group, etc

>The "Tigers" evolved from local gangsters loyal to Hama's air force intelligence directorate. They smuggle, pillage, steal, kidnap etc. Still, reports misrepresent them as some kind of SOF.

>>31871498
>misrepresent

They are, simply because they get the job done when other units can't.

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Japanese journalist Kosuke Tsuneoka arrested in Kurdistan due to suspected ISIS links

>>31871514
33 Hezbollah fighters have been killed in Syria just in October

>>31869913
>>31869925
>>31869970
It mostly because of the United Arab Republic. After the fail of the united republic, mainly because of Nasser fuckery, with Syria unresting and leaving it in 1961. Even so, the arab nacionalism sentiment was still strong in the country. So, in a symbolic gest to appease the arab nacionalists, the new goverment changed its name to "Syrian Arab Republic", and the name sticked with the following goverments that assumed after new coups, the first Ba'athist gov, and then, Assad senior gov.

So, for being the army of the "Syrian Arab Republic" thats why they are called the "Syrian Arab Army".

>>31871398
Everything was better when it was just Arabs. It was like kids fighting, but than big brother US had to step in and ruin the fun.

>>31852107
This is the worst fucking comparison I have ever read, are you fucking retarded?

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>battle of mosul begins
>half-way across the world I'm sitting in my comfy aparment
>watching shit unfold and drinking a beer
What a time to be alive!

>>31873141
stream?

>>31872172
wtf

>>31869474
Iraq has friendly kurds though who likely can call on their cousins in Turkey to start some real shit if it came to a throw down.

>>31850959
Photo major here, that pic makes me diamonds

>>31875883
Iraqi Kurdistan is in Turk pockets. They were bought out, and not a terrible choice selling out considering your circumstances.

>>31862890
You act like this is some sort of accomplishment seeing as how no one else besides China or the US gives a fuck about their navies. Russia deploys ocean going tugs with their single aircraft carrier anticipating a breakdown and its deployment came 1 month late because of their lack of carrier qual'd pilots.

Russia still a shit.

>(refugees)They agree that the bombing and shelling of eastern Aleppo was terrifying but they also say that the Jabhat al-Nusra – the thousands of al-Qaeda followers who have twice changed their name in a vain attempt to shake off the West’s claim that they are ‘terrorists’ — are the least offensive, perhaps even the kinder, of the armed groups which still hold their sector of the city.

Lol when JFS are the friendly guys. Kind of makes sense, they are the "professionals", other rebel groups can simply be thugs.

>>31863160
>Trudeau stealing RCMP bucks and embezzling it into the Navy
Im ok with this

>>31876192
>tug meme
Wise decision in absence of shitload friendly bases for emergency repair around the world

>>31871398
ISIS are the dumbest mother fuckers in the history of the planet.

Hurr we have all this territory in Syria and Iraq and captured firepower, lets go start wars with all of our neighbors via terrorist attacks and piss off the entire world so we get half our entire military annihilated from the air and lose most of our territory in the home country.

Should have been good little CIA cuck shits who pretended they were "moderates" like Al Nusra and friends. And toned down the edginess.

Muslims, even when they are winning they can't help but fuck it up.

>>31876762
That's what happens when you let hype get to your head

All the Arabs I know are so easy to hype up. It must be something persistent in both Middle Eastern and African cultures

>>31876907
its the heat

>>31876218
>Lol when JFS are the friendly guys.
Less this, and more of all muslims being human fucking filth.
>(refugees)They agree that the bombing and shelling of eastern Aleppo was terrifying but they also say that the Jabhat al-Nusra -- are the least offensive, perhaps even the kinder
There's no such thing as a peaceful, non-infidel hating, non-jihad supporting muslim. They're all scum.

>>31861634
Yeah, those are the NDF militias and such. About 40% super good/rather competent, 25% okay tier, and about 35% fodder/trash types. Sadly most of the videos we see seem to be of that bottom 35%.

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That battle story cause uncontrollable laugh to me

>>31851772
Good position, shame they will give away their position by shooting ALLAUH ACKBAT ALLA BACKAR! every 2 seconds.

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>-BREAKING NEWS Putin orders 10-hour humanitarian pause in Aleppo on Nov. 4 – Russian military

President Vladimir Putin has ordered a humanitarian pause in Aleppo from 9am to 7pm on November 4, the Russian General Staff has reported, while urging the armed groups to stop fighting in Aleppo and leave the city with their arms via two corridors.

General Valery Gerasimov, the chief of the Russian General Staff, said the militants failed to break through the blockade around the city last week and accept Russia’s proposal to leave eastern Aleppo through two specially designated corridors, while reiterating that they would be allowed to keep arms.

“Considering that our American colleagues were unable to separate the opposition from terrorists, we are addressing all militant leaders directly, urging them to cease hostilities and leave Aleppo with their arms,” he said. “Two corridors will be opened, from which Syrian troops and weapons would be pulled back.”

During Friday’s pause, six additional corridors will be opened for civilians wishing to leave the city, the general said.

DETAILS TO FOLLOW

Ive offered this before but nobody ever takes me up on it. If you guys want some arabic shit terpaderped i can do that for you.

anyone have that clip where someone laughs/akbars as a guy falls off of a technical?

>>31876762
you're gonna feel really dumb when Muhammad reborn comes back from the dead to start the biggest rock concert the world has ever seen.

>>31878316
>rock concert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMoxLgNPJfQ

>>31877697
hah

>>31878046
Reminds me of when there was a cease fire in the Ukraine, with provisions for a corridor of retreat, and as a Ukrainian mechanized group was pulling back from Luhansk it got ambushed and a couple dozen poor souls died...

>>31872172
>suspected

>>31878549
[Citation needed]

EGYPT JOINS THE WAR

WW3 everyone!

>>31878779
What?

>>31853488
Adjusting is for pussies

FFE or bust

>>31855758
It was a Civil War for the Spanish, but it was a proxy war for the Fascists and Communists, both of whom sent soldiers and weapons.

>>31878549
Also when the Ukrainians trapped in that Crimean base asked to negotiate with the rebels surrounding them, and then sniped the leader when he stepped forward.

>>31859561
yeha its like someone should teach logistics to this sandniggers

>>31877697
What an awful predicament to be found in

>>31876762
>Organization founded on murder and magic books
>Logical progression of strategy

>>31878549
>>31879291
Neither of these sound true

>>31879635
Well I'm sorry I can't find you a link about the guys trapped in the base shooting the dude they asked to come negotiate, but some of us were watching Ukraine as it happened (same with Syria), and it did happen.

Yeminin forces vs. Saudi high security post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlWp1LgjHvY

>>31872172
恥ずかしいです DESU

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>>31879226
maybe some old fashioned spanish civil war guys where the reason for a possible russian (mafia) "refuil" at the spanish coast

>>31880140
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlWp1LgjHvY
>2:05
Is that a blindicide?

>>>31881035
new thread by Mandic

>>31876762
>if they just sat on all their stolen land nobody would have taken it from them
I mean, if they stuck to Syria maybe, but the humiliating fall of Mosul made it clear that Iraq needed immediate military support. Once they started taking shit from an American ally they might as well have gone balls deep and made the drive on Baghdad that was disturbingly possible at the time.

>>31879631
> basically Every army in the world until democracy became a thing