What do you think it will mean for gun and ammo prices if

Gun scare will immediately die.

>>31845572
Once the election is over less /pol/ losers will come.

Fuck all. Hell, possibly even a slight rise if normies freak out about him.

>>31845572
I'll have bought 30 Pmags for nothing. Oh well, at least I have 30 Pmags now.

>>31845572
nothing now, complete shit show in 4 years unless democraps run someone even worse than hillary.

if he gets elected, which is highly unlikely, there's almost no chance that he would get reelected.

>>31845594
Do you take payment in porn or $0.50?

>>31845572
>if Trump is elected?
kek

Prices won't go down, but they won't skyrocket like they would with Hillary elected either. At least until Dems steal Congress and whip up a media frenzy for another AWB (only to have it vetoed by Trump, unless he sells us out).

A golden age.

>>31845572
I hate Hillary as much as anyone else, but shes probably going to win.

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>>31845572
liberals will all disappear forever and the 2 gun community will live in harmony

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>>31845572
>if

Implying Clinton has a chance after FBI Weiner probe.

Say it with me MAGA 2016!

>>31845672

nah, Trump was already on an upward trend before the latest FBI email issue with Hillary and he is crushing the early voting.

-------

I guess for a start reverse everything Obama has done....

>Import of 7N6 ammo was banned.
>Import of Saiga was banned.
>Gunsmiths working on even small barrel changes must register and pay fees for ITAR even if they don't export anything.
>Sales of firearms by individuals were restricted.
>The ATF is illegally collecting all the data on gun owners.

If Trump goes as far as repairing our ties with Russia from all the red scare/mccarthyism we could possibly have a lot more Russian stuff coming across the Pacific.

>>31845635
>Implying Trump wouldn't make the dealingest dealy mcdeals with the Democrats who will run Congress and senate.

>>31845572
no more panic buying.

At best, with 2 supreme court justices, it means the AWB in Cali/Chicago and other states are seen as unconstitutional, finally freeing them of their draconian bullshit.

He does have a policy for a national concealed carry / 50 state recognition, but idk how important that is in the list of important shit to do.

I just hope he lifts the Russian import ban. I want cheap slavshit.

>>31845952
Finally, we'll have a chance to see SVDs appear on usa shores and take the prices of those who gouge like no other.

>>31845588
This is it you dont want to hear that dead mans click keep 6 to 7 mags on your chest.

Slavshit 47 FOR EVERYONE

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>>31846017
THIS

Also I can't believe no one ITT has mentioned national concealed carry. How awesome would that be?

I mean I guess you'd have to have a driving job to really appreciate it but that'd be cool nonetheless.

>>31845584
The best outcome, clearly.

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>>31845952
>>31846025
>>31846083

fuck that commie shit.

>>31845572
Have you even seen Hillary's plan for gun control? It will literally be Obama 2.0 and I see nothing wrong with that. Unless you want full auto which is a meme anyway

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He has a good chance of winning. CTR shills and pollsters are trying to discourage Trump supporters from showing up to the polls, but that method could backfire...which is why I never use this type of method over seas
>oh look no one is gonna vote for him, just stay home
which also tellls Clinton supporters
>oh we got this by a landslide so I can stay home on the 8th

pic semi-related.

also latest email release and FBI probe are serious blows, CTR is on damage control. All Trump needs to do now is refrain from grabing anyone by the pussy (metaphoricaly)for two weeks and he is good...which knowing our guy could be diffiult

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>>31846160

>>31846135
Fuck you. Im a free man and i can spend my hard or easy earned money on anything i want.

>>31846160
Yeah i mean why would anyone need anything else than a bb gun if all youre ever going to do is shoot at bottles

>>31845588
We could use them for frisbees

>>31845572
Things that will never happen for 400$

>>31846160
I had a real good giggle during the third debate when Hillary said she supports the 2nd Amendment.

>>31845584
/k/ is majority /pol/

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>>31846270
All the stomach ulcers she has from building her career on lying are finally coming to haunt her.
>tfw this is Obama's legacy since he stole the presidency from her first campaign

>>31846368
You're inherently wrong.

>>31845572
It will get worse. Somehow, it always gets worse.

>>31845584
/pol/ is full proud american nationalism. get your liberal ass back to r[eddit you commiefaggot

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>>31846377
>namefag trying to tell off anyone else
Please.

>>31845927
>Weiner probe

Do they not have people to run these names by before they put them on national TV?

>>31845996
>it means the AWB in Cali/Chicago and other states are seen as unconstitutional, finally freeing them of their draconian bullshit.

/k/alimando here, could this actually happen? Don't toy with me, don't raise my hopes just to have Harris smash them again like with Peruta V. San Diego. I have so very little.

>>31846379
truth hurts, but this

>>31846135
>dat truck...
How's that micropenis treating you?

>>31846371
If he did one good thing during his eight years as president, it was hamstringing her chances of being president. It seriously seems that half his presidency was making her as unattractive an option, should she ever run for POTUS again. So, seriously, and with no sarcasm at all, thanks Obama.

>>31846377
name fags are worse than /pol/ smokers.

>>31846160
Yeah, I don't think Hillary is going to do much on that front, she'll have too much on her plate with Obamacare, Asia, ME, Europe, economic progress, etc.

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>>31846368

>>31846439
Definitely. Supreme court never ruled on Cook County's AWB despite the pending lawsuit against it. It's been stuck in a legal limbo for pretty much ever.

>>31846368
No.

>>31845584

I'm so ready for election cycle /pol/ to die.

>>31845572
The day the 1986 ban is reopened is the day you will see a picture with no armor whatsoever in a picture I post.

>>31845867
>Fudds, Slavaboos and Mall Ninjas getting along

At most two will agree at the same time.

>>31846368
This.

I mean reddit fucked this board up pretty good but it's mostly /pol/ users here.

>>31846744
I hope they come take all your BB guns and rape your family with your helmet on

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>>31845572
good things most likely, maybe silencer will be taken off the NFA.

Im trying to get a semi-auto handgun before the election but i might try and buy my uncles guns from his widow.(although she may have sold them).

>>31845992
If Trump gets elected there's no way that they're going to take the house (not congress) and Senate (the two making a complete congress) my guess is that they'll keep both when this is all said and done and we'll be safe from everything except executive order and state bullshit

>>31846109
But that would take all the fun out of bringing my guns to visit my mom in California

>>31846553

Gun control is a minimum priority for Dems in general lately. Congressional dems remember getting slaughtered after the first clinton AWB and I doubt they'll be in such a rush to lose their jobs in the first midterm again after that and Obamacare.

Funs will be fine

>Trump wins
>appoints actual constitutionalist judges to SCOTUS
>NY Safe Act overturned
>immediately go to store and buy an Izhmash AK fresh off the boat from Russia
>magdump hundreds of shitty tula rounds in celebration

FUCK YOU ANDREW CUOMO!

>>31846829
Doesn't mean we can or should let our guard down. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

Possible lifted russian sanctions in some time, but scare will continue due to the retarded ca gun laws happening next year and year after that.

>>31846868
And this is why the prices will go up, NYers, Kommiefornians, Connecticucks, Massfags and New Jersey folks (probably forgetting someone) will buy everything they can if the supreme court rapes their AWBs. But no one will be in that big of a hurry and it should calm down in a year or two.

>>31846931
Can you really blame us? Shit's been in place since before most of us were old enough to buy guns. It'll be like taking a third worlder to an all you can eat buffet. After you explain to him that he can literally eat all he wants, he's not gonna leave unless you drag him out.

>>31845927
nobody has a chance at much of anything after getting weiner probed

>>31846967

At least even right now we can theoretically build a purely theoretical AR-15 by theoretically legally purchasing all required parts for a free state build and then theoretically assembling it without telling anyone... theoretically.

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>>31847029
oops, forgot smug anime girl

>>31845572
>if
When.
ftfy

>>31846967
Can I blame you? Only for complying really. If I lived in a cuck state I would swarm the fuck out of every gun store the second I could. I hope you guys get your deadly black salt funs one day.

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>>31846368

>>31846368

No.

the panic will end. then a year or so of prices falling back.

Wait to see who is AG and ATF picks are. How the senate comes out. Who gets to replace Scalia, Ginsburg, Kennedy, Thomas.

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>>31845867
the only space getting invaded is his space nawmeen

>>31845952
>>I guess for a start reverse everything Obama has done
I should believe that why?

>>31847045
>Can I blame you?

You can blame the ATF by making it so anyone with an FFL has to comply with the laws of wherever they're selling to. Non-compliance suddenly becomes very difficult for those that can't afford a trip out of state every time they see something they want in a TF show, movie, or video game. For the most part, we are stuck with what dealers are legally allowed to sell here. This ain't the east coast where you can drive for 30 minutes in one direction and cross two state lines.

>>31847045

How do you not comply when you can't even buy any sodium shooters in the first place?

It's not like we had them and then the ban happened and we just keep them on the down low, this has been here since 1994 pretty much. The only babyblaster I could theoretically acquire is an evil AR I built by myself, and it's not like I could go shooting it so why bother with the expense?

>>31847109

>implying I can just drive to Pennsylvania and buy a gun that is illegal in NY

Nobody in their right mind would sell something like that to a NYer. People in the bordering states know the laws, and people further out know that NY is fucked and probably don't sell ANYTHING to a NYer.

/pol/ and Trump and all of you do is bitch and whine about them.

>>31845996
>He does have a policy for a national concealed carry / 50 state recognition
Has he ever given the specifics of this plan? Given his other shaky views on guns, how am I supposed to trust that it won't include national minimum requirements that permits would have to meet to be eligible? Remember, he has a NY carry permit.

>>31847133
P R I V A T E S A L E

>>31847147
/pol/ and Trump fighting for gun right.

>>31846411
Weiner is the name of the lead investigator, and it's pronounced like "whiner"

>>31847162
It is going to be better than Clinton's plan of no national carry.

>>31847187
>Weiner is the name of the lead investigator

Are you retarded?

>>31847100
He has said to reverse all Obama's executive orders.

>>31847187
You and I both know that's not how the majority of people will pronounce it, and then proceed to giggle like school girls.

>>31846967
Yeah because when you legalize illegal stuff the consumption skyrockets. That's what happened with pot in Colorado, Washington, Oregon and all drugs in Portugal. Oh no wait, it actually went down. My mistake!

>>31847189
No, it isn't. I live in a state with constitutional carry and the last thing I want is that potentially being fucked with at the federal level. There are plenty of others who are weary of federal minimum standards being pushed with national concealed carry reciprocity as well.

>>31846377
>>31846642
>>31846684
>>31847047
>>31847048
niggers >>>/out/

In terms of policy at the national level, things will ease.

In terms of policy in blue states and blue city-statelets in places like Denver and Austin, things will get real bad real quick. There will be social unrest, plenty of minor violence, harassment, vandalism, etc. by left wing street thugs, and the politicians in California and New York and Washington will be screeching like wet hens about the need to double down on their already insane anti-gun restrictions. Which, in the localities affected, will result in price and availability going to shit.

Screencap this and -- if The Donald wins -- post it around Christmas and tell me if I was right or wrong. IF he's elected, it won't be the end. It'll be the end of the beginning. Remember that the progressive left never quits and never lets up.

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>>31845572
M855 will drop to .10 a round

>>31847205
Not everything you listed was done by executive order though.

>>31845572
Trump will remove suppressors from the NFA

>>31847162
He hasn't given specifics on most of his ideas afterall.

It's his method, say a bunch of vague shit and let people's imaginations fill in the blanks.

>>31846368
You cannot be /k/ and /pol/. Most of /k/ believes in that the right to bear arms Cannot and Shall Not be infringed. With no exception due to sexual orientation or race. While most of /pol/ will wish to have special clauses added to the second amendment that denies this basic right for Americans of the wrong political, racial or sexual status. And I vist /pol/ enough to know this too be true.

>>31845594
If he gets elected he may be a 4 and out of his own will . And allow an open electiom

>>31847291
This. Don't forget that the Roof Korean is part of our Pantheon.

Ave Nex Alea.

>>31847276
Then why are there a ton of people who still trust him? Fuck, this is Nancy Pelosi "we have to pass this bill so you can find out what's in it" level shit.

>>31847291
by that logic you should support gun ownership for convicted felons, too. don't want to discriminate now, do you? after all, most felons are black and i thought you aren't a racist.

>>31845588
Thats how I look at it. I bought a bunch of shit. Best case scenario: Trump wins and I have a bunch of neat stuff

>>31847341
>by that logic you should support gun ownership for convicted felons
Not even that guy, but most of /k/ does, numb nuts.

>>31847341
>by that logic you should support gun ownership for convicted felons
Not him, but a good portion of posters on /k/ believe that once you're out of prison you've paid your debt to society.

>>31847321
Because he is fighting for it, as opposed to other candidates.

I love that /k/ still loves to stump Trump now.

>>31847341
Shall not be infringed. If they served their time, they've carried out their punishment.

/k/ommandos are unwavering in the spirit of the second amendment. We're not afraid of any criminals or terrorists, because guess what we get to do if shit hits the fan?

>>31845952
you are thinking too small.

If I was head of the ATF.

I would just scrap all the regulations and write news ones to my interpretation of the laws.

then destroy any copy of the old regulations that can find.

give the anti gun people nothing to work with when you get replaced in 4-8 years.

>>31847291
Shut up you fucking faggot

>>31847383
Gary Johnson wants government to lay off the gun rights.

>>31847321
>Then why are there a ton of people who still trust him?
Because people are dumb, most don't pick up on what he's doing, and their imaginations have filled in the blanks in such a way that they like what he's saying.

This thread alone is simple proof of that. Trump has given no concrete statement on what his gun policy would be, but this thread is full of people imagining all the awesome things that he'll give the pro-guns community if/when he's elected.

>>31847388
Yes, until all illegals vote democrats and you have no way to fight back, being a minority.

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>>31847404

>>31847388
>We're not afraid of any criminals or terrorists, because guess what we get to do if shit hits the fan?
And that's why /pol/ wants to destroy us, ultimately. Because they know the /k/ommandos won't be with them if they ever tried their rope day bullshit.

>>31845952
As long as Russia has Crimea, the sanctions will stay

>>31847404
By having an anti-gun VP.

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>>31847291
First day on 4chan or do you just only stay on /k/?
If anything, we enjoy mexicans and niggers gunning each other down more than anything.

>>31847205
Do people even know what Obama's Executive Orders have been?

Because I know most of the ones that people complain about were Executive ACTIONS, which are entirely different.


...Also another fine example of Trump saying some vague bullshit and people eating it up.

>>31847413
Most people pick him because he is pro gun, pro job and anti illegals.

>>31847434
Crimea is gone m8.

the sanctions are symbolic anyways. you can still buy and sell a lot of stuff to russia. all the stuff that the (((international clique))) wants from russia.

Trump can lift the sanctions as a show of good will. To get Putin to back off the Balts and Novorussia.

>>31847341
if they served their time they deserve their rights back faggot, especially if the crime was non violent.

>>31847455
What do you want to do? Anti-Trump to this date?

>>31847456
3 subjects he's made no concrete statements of policy on, again allowing people to IMAGINE that he's going to do whatever makes them the most happy.

I don't need my /k/omrades to tell me they're voting for him because he's pro-gun. I know that.

Fuck man, people will probably freak out and stockpile supplies because they are afraid Trump will tank the economy.

The liberals will buy up all the guns.

>>31847477
Trump winning doing to see a stock market crash no matter what. It won't be big or long lasting.

>>31845572
i'll hand out free 30 round mags.
$100 apiece if he loses.

>>31847476
National CC carry, anti-Obama executive orders, repeal Safe act, bring back tariff, build a wall and make Mexico pay for it.

>>31847456
>he is pro gun
But he has literally given no details of his "pro gun" plans and has supported the opposite in interviews and the debates, such as how he has repeatedly said people on the terror watch list shouldn't be able to purchase a gun.

>Trump wins
Rioting lefties and minorities, race war/racial tensions rise.
>Hillary wins
Rioting righties and whites, race war/civil war/racial tensions rise.

Win win t.b.q.h.w.y

>>31847493
>Sound-bytes are policy statements now
No.

Most of the shit you listed he's said all of one sentence about. He hasn't given one fucking DETAIL, which he not only should do in general, but would also need to do to prove your claim.

>>31847501
Vote Meteor Apocalypse, 2016!
For the fiery death that we all deserve!

>>31845927
calling it now hilarys going to win immediately get convicted of something and impeached. whoever the fuck is vp takes over.

>>31847500
Trump's position is republican senate plan to no gun no fly, but also make it faster and easier to get off the list.

If they can get the nofly/terror lists reforms to an acceptable point. We should then make the republicans and trump push for something else, like lifting all import restrictions, or national CC reciprocity.

>>31847500
This has been repeated times and times again, but there is a due process for the terror watch list.

>>31847493
>repeal Safe act
The president can't repeal a state law you dipshit.

>>31847509
Most of his policies are on his website.

>>31847529
nah. Hillary would pull a Nixon. She'll step down, Kaine gets to be President and then immediately pardon Hillary. Kaine becomes Ford 2.0. Rubio or Rand is president in 2024. Though in the meantime the Republicans take the Senate back and keep the house in 2018.

hopefully only Scalia is replaced by a democrat pick between 2016 and 2020.

>>31847535
>Trump's position is republican senate plan to no gun no fly
Show me where he has actually said that.

>>31847540
>but there is a due process for the terror watch list.
Innocent until proven guilty =/= due process.

>>31847554
I love this narrative, they are the same, so do not vote.

Thus Hillary wins.

>>31847550

I'm not convinced he actual has read his own policies.

Some guy he hired probably wrote the. I'm fairly sure Trump will just delegate away every aspect of the presidency.

Expect shadow-president Mike Pence.

>>31847560
Show me the current no fly list and show how they are innocent before guilty.

>>31847567
You are free to believe what you believe but Trump remains the only hope for USA and the West.

>>31847567
>Expect shadow-president Mike Pence

Fuck.

>>31847560
>>31847577
Fuck, that should have been guilty until proven innocent. I'm tired right now.

>>31847587
Fuck the west. Are you so fucking bigoted and racist that you want a border?

>>31847455
>Because I know most of the ones that people complain about were Executive ACTIONS, which are entirely different.
>which are entirely different.
They're basically the same.

>>31847109
Yeah, but you can get whatever parts kits you want online. As well as buy scary vertical grips and pistol grips and what not. The only thing that you would really need to go to another state for is mags unless there's something I don't know...

>people actually think trump is going to do anything about gun laws

Went to the last state wide show before the election today

line OUT THE DOOR around the block of non members. inside was actually quite tame. but it was interesting to see a lot of people who normally dont go to gun shows be there today

>>31847426
>implying /pol/ gives a shit about the weebs/autists that visit this board

>>31847291
Are you retarded? The founding fathers who wrote the second amendment didn't even consider niggers to be fully human. And faggots still got hanged back then.

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>>31846368
/pol/ is cancer.

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>>31847095

>>31847605
>They're basically the same.
Except for where they're not.

An Executive Order is the President saying "I'm doing something about this!"

An Executive Action is the President saying "Someone should do something about this!". Essentially making it a fucking motivational speech. Since the "someone" is almost always implied to be Congress.

So yes, it will be so easy for Trump to reverse those, since they basically amount to feel-good publicity statements. So don't applaud him too much on it.

>>31847037
Kek

>>31847642
It's not a speech. Those actions give money, manpower, time,etc to get whatever done. It's not a speech. Spend like 2 minutes on wikipedia my dude.

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>>31847587
>WAAAAH, EVERYTHING WILL END IF I DON'T GET MY WAY.

>>31847635
It's a containment board so ofc it is, just like any containment board

You cute little silly willy you

>>31847620
>founding fathers were smarter than the average modern liberal.

>>31847247
Lol, everyone had weed anyway and no one cared. I don't believe for a second that consumption went down either, there's still a thriving black market here in OR. There's no market for AWs at the moment in these states that doesn't have serious consequences, that's the difference. No potheads went to prison for just smoking, however people would have gotten fucked for AWs, therefore you have a whole new market not a different version of the same thing. Ask any /k/ommandos from cuck states if they would buy a legit AR and whatever else they could the second they became available and see what they say. Apples and oranges man

>>31847655
>Mexicans flood in after hillaries amnesty program.
>Democrat and SJW tier laws.
>Republican party never gets elected since a majority of mexicans vote democrat.
>Free speech/ "Hate speech" is outlawed.
>US goes from 60% white to 20-30% white.
Say goodbye to your funs retard.

>>31847113
>It's not like we had them and then the ban happened and we just keep them on the down low, this has been here since 1994 pretty much.
The SAFE Act was passed in 2013.

>>31847655
He's right though. If those 11,000,000 spics get made legal and probably 10 or 20 million more, you can kiss your guns goodbye. Non-whites vote for gibs which is a vote for democrats.

>>31847655
What is your point? We might get our jobs, our guns, our demographics back but you want to piss it away?

>>31847707
All of that is better than having a racist for 4 years.

>>31847691

Yes, but NY already had a virtual copy of the 1994 national AWB as state law. SAFE replaced it.

>>31847651
I did, and while it's not entirely 'a speech' like I said, I didn't expect the nit-picking brigade to jump up my ass. The money, manpower, and other stuff that's given out isn't at the President's command though, it is left to the discretion of the appropriate governing bodies. And the entire operation is non-binding and not registered with the Federal Registrar like an Executive Order is.

But hey, keep pretending that Obama is some sort of dictator, it'll make a great comparison between him and Trump later on.

>>31847540
How is there due process? No one tells you you're on the list, no one tells you how to petition to get off the list because they won't confirm or deny whether you're on it in the first place.

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>>31845952
But what about the Chinese import ban?

>MFW our lord and savior trump allows china to flood the streets with cheap norinco everything again.

>>31847341
Served their time, get their rights back. By saying they can't have guns or vote you're saying that they're some kind of sub human that doesn't deserve a say in their future or the right to self defense. There's no point in letting someone out of prison with no job prospects or rights, it's unconstitutional and immoral.

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>>31847716
>fuck America completely forever vs. Tolerate a smart mouthed president for a few years

>>31847695
>Non-whites vote for gibs which is a vote for democrats.
I'm sure constantly being characterized as moochers, and generally being spat on by good Republicans like you has NOTHING to do with voting preference either.

>>31847740
Before the SAFE act you needed two evil features for a gun to be an assault weapon. Now even a single evil feature counts and you can't buy ammo online.

The SAFE act is worse than what came before.

>>31847744
The due process is what did you do to be in the no fly list in the first place.

>>31847684
>according to my fantasies

>>31847707
>We might
His lack of details on his position on guns doesn't really inspire confidence and I oppose him on other issues such as his views on government spying and internet freedom. I'd rather tell the Republican party that they need to not choose an authoritarian if they want my vote.

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>>31847742
>And the entire operation is non-binding and not registered with the Federal Registrar like an Executive Order is.
Weird how an executive action always gets carried out then huh? It's almost like this "speech" is an order in everything but name.

King nigger might as well be some sort of dictator. He's given more EA's than any other president before. Of course the lefties always go on about how few EO's he's given, just because he uses EA's in lieu of them.

>>31845621
*when

>>31847773
So why are there children on the No Fly List?

Why was Senator Ted Kennedy on the No Fly List?

Why was Nelson Mandela on the No Fly List?

>>31847742
Good lord, now defending Obama.

/k/ is cucked.

>>31846160
SHALL

>>31847759
They're the very definition of a fucking moocher you retard.

>come to a country to mooch off the hard work and prosperity the native people have achieved for themselves
>get on benefits paid for by the host people
>call them racist for not liking your mooching faggotry

wew lad

>>31847775
So okay, be a loser then.

Unlike you retarded ass, Clinton voters just take whatever they can get.

>>31847793
NOT

>>31847775
>I dont read policies by political canidates: The Post.
Once mexicans see that free pass to citizenship, its fucking over. Stay afraid of being called racist and posting ebin drumpf memes on tumblr.

>>31847814
PASS

>>31847788
Nelson Mandela is a fucking terrorist.

Show me the no fly list.

>>31847642
That someone who should do something works directly for and at the will of the POTUS...

>>31847771

I didn't say otherwise, friend. I'm just saying, NY has been shit for a long time. Most of us posting here wouldn't have been old enough in 1994 to get a completely uncucked gun.

Also, you technically can order ammo online right to your door because the section of the law regarding ammo is not functional at the moment, they pretty much have shelved the background check requirement because it's insane and impossible. Unfortunately most retailers won't touch NY with a 50 foot pole anyway. But I order right to my door from Target Sports USA all the time. They're the only one I know that does this.

>>31847790
/k/ never gave a fuck about Obama beyond guns and war, that was /pol/'s thing.

>>31847810
How I see it, both candidate are going to try to shit on the rights I care about most. Why should I vote for either?

>>31847821

>>31847748
Norinco M14s for everyone! Who gives a fuck about pot metal, as long as they're not charging Springfield dollas for an outdated gun you only want so you can play Korean War in your living room

>>31847804
>no immigrants ever work hard and achieve prosperity
"wew" indeed

>>31847775

>B-but muh single special vote matters!

Get a load of this snowflake

>>31847844
But Obama hampers /k/ on guns and wars.

>>31847854
Because one is pro-gun and one is not.

>>31847900
Just the white and asian ones. The rest bleed us dry and murder and rape us in the tens of thousands every year, like vampire leeches.

>>31847759
Hahaha...everyone likes to call repubs racist, no one wants the facts. Most fiscal conservatives would spit on anyone that lives off the government no matter what race. They want controlled immigration so people don't get replaced by any illegal of any color for half the wages fucking our economy and what's left of the middle class. Its not their fault they're mostly brown.

>>31847926
>Because one is pro-gun
>hasn't actually given details on the pro gun positions they claim to hold
>has taken anti gun positions in interviews and the debates, such as how he has repeatedly said people on the terror watch list shouldn't be able to purchase a gun
Why should I believe he is actually pro gun and not just saying that to get elected? It wouldn't be the first time such a thing has happened.

>>31847929

>Mexicans are lazy leeches
>Mexicans are stealing our jobs

Which one it is, it can't be both, unless you're lazier than a Mexican.

>>31847821
GAS

>>31848000
Because he has no show no sign at being worse than Clinton at gun rights.

>>31848002
Even with the decreased productivity of hiring lazy mexicans, businesses just pay them less and can still make a profit. It's not that hard to understand anon.

>>31848000
The position he's taken on his web site is very specific and very detailed and very hard to back off of.

>>31847929

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P40_kd-mS8

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-thorny-economics-of-illegal-immigration-1454984443

>>31848076
Except that's wrong.

>>31848107
>http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-thorny-economics-of-illegal-immigration-1454984443
>need an account to read article

>>31848107
Can't even read your article since it's behind a paywall.

http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/sorry-but-illegal-aliens-cost-the-u-s-plenty/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/02/immigration-costs-fair-amnesty-educations-costs-reform.html

>>31847635
>/pol/ gtfos
>/k/ is instantly the slowest board on 4chan

>>31847341
hate to tell you but...
>dead men can't bear arms
We honestly have far to many things that felony convictions now days anyway, for incredibly retarded things.
there use to be a time where a felony was a capital offense and not just the state's way of saying he offends my sensibilities.

>>31847291

>Most of /k/ believes in that the right to bear arms Cannot and Shall Not be infringed. With no exception due to sexual orientation or race.

So that's in opposition to the founder's vision for the country, which was defined in the first few congresses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1790

Indians, Niggers and Gooks were never meant to be citizens, and thus never meant to enjoy the Bill of Rights.

It wasn't until 1952 that discrimination based on race in regards to naturalization was lifted.

Stormfags actually have more in common with America's founders than a bunch of weakling libertarians anyday.

P.S: Hitler removed gun laws imposed by the Weimar Republic.

>>31848143
>>31848134

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/braingain_chapter.pdf

>In the end, the central question for immigration policy is the balance between costs and benefits. Vivek Wadhwa and colleagues reach a clear conclusion based on their studies. They say that “immigrants have become a significant driving force in the creation of new businesses and intellectual property in the U.S.—and that their contributions have increased over the past decade.”

>In contrast to critics who worry that immigrants take American jobs and depress American wages, considerable research suggests that immigrants contribute to the vibrancy of American economic development and the richness of its cultural life. They start new businesses, patent novel ideas, and create jobs.

https://web.archive.org/web/20141213205836/http://www.window.state.tx.us/specialrpt/undocumented/undocumented.pdf

>The Comptroller’s office estimates the absence of the estimated 1.4 million undocumented immigrants in Texas in fiscal 2005 would have been a loss to our Gross State Product of $17.7 billion. Also, the Comptroller’s office estimates that state revenues collected from undocumented immigrants exceed what the state spent on services, with the difference being $424.7 million

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/01/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-illegal-immigration-costs-113-bi/

>>31848145
>>/k/ is instantly the slowest board on 4chan
>implying a board being slow is a bad thing
I visit other imageboards and forums, the slower ones tend to have some of the best discussion.

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>>31848246
Your first two paragraphs are meaningless feel good bullshit.

And I'm not sure about Texas but I've found links from a 3rd party saying they cost money.
https://www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/illegal-immigration-cost-Texas/2015/10/15/id/696295/

Politifact isn't a good source so I'm not even going to read that one.

>>31848246
Lol, .edu. like they didn't have a goal when they started that study. Yes it would cost Texas from their domestic product in the short term, however the per capita domestic product is what you should be watching there and there's no mention of that number. Also it doesn't matter if they add 154 billion dollars a week to the economy if they take more from the government you've accomplished exactly 0

>>31848246
> can't think critically when I have an easy to read small picture of the problem
> what's confirmation bias?

>>31845952
>and he is crushing the early voting

Reuters/Ipsos survey says otherwise

>>31848387
At this point, the polls do not matter.

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>>31848286
>that pic
>murder by race
How many fucking times to I have to post this fucking link before you fucks stop that shit?

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/expanded-homicide-data/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2014.xls

81% my pimpled ass.

>>31847501
I'd rather have the first option, it will finally reveal the left's true face and show them for the hate filled hypocrites that they are.

>>31848286
The 81% statistic isn't remotely correct and comes from a meme that references sources that are literally fictional.

Good work being literally retarded.

>>31848405
>hmm that statistic can't possibly be wrong let me look it up..
>oh no the statistic is wrong, blacks are extremely violent, just not quite that bad

4d majong

>>31848387
Shh. Let him dream. He's only got a week left.

>>31848408
>I'd rather have the first option, it will finally reveal the left's true face and show them for the hate filled hypocrites that they are.
As opposed to the right, who freely admit to being bigoted and hate-filled?

>>31847684
This is what I'm worried about. If Hillary gets in, implements amnesty and appoints leftist judges to the Supreme Court and other federal courts, we can say bye-bye to the America that our founding fathers envisioned, and hola to Venezuelan style socialism and waiting in bread lines at government cafeterias.

Honestly, guns are important, but the country is very close to being corrupted beyond the point of no return, maybe already has been, as a result of the Immigration Act of 1965. With an intelligent white majority who actually values things like personal liberty, small government, low taxes, religious freedom and free speech, the gun laws will always be favorable. We absolutely have to prevent America from becoming a third world country.

>>31847759
>I'm sure constantly being characterized as moochers, and generally being spat on by good Republicans like you has NOTHING to do with voting preference either.
Don't be dense. Look at where these people are coming from, for fuck sake. Every single country in Latin America except Colombia, at least until they have their next 'la revolucion', has an extreme leftist/socialist government, which leads to hyperinflation, rampant joblessness, and corruption at every level of government in all these countries.

On the legal immigration side, China, which is a major source of legal immigrants, has a Communist - the most leftist you can find - government. Legal Muslim immigrants tend to vote Democrat in America, which probably strikes most people as bizarre given their contradictory stances on having sex with underage girls, throwing gays off buildings, and bundling up their women in canvas bags, until you realize that Democrats represent large government and oppression, which is what Muslims want to take advantage of in order to implement their Islamic-controlled legal system in the country that they are invading/migrating to. Look at parts of France, the UK, Germany, Minnesota, Sweden, etc.

Faggot.

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>>31848445
Missing the point. Just showing how biased (((politifact))) is. They're owned by a clinton supporting paper by the way.

>>31848002
>>Mexicans are lazy leeches
>>Mexicans are stealing our jobs
>Which one it is, it can't be both, unless you're lazier than a Mexican.
Just because they live in poverty doesn't mean they are lazy. You can't lift yourself out of poverty in America if you are working for $3 an hour picking strawberries, no matter what your race is.

>>31848471
The images you are posting aren't from politifact. They are memes made to troll retards.

>>31848000
>>hasn't actually given details
You're a dumb piece of filth shill, you know that?
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/constitution-and-second-amendment/

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>>31848471
>(((politifact)))

>>31848483
They are though

>>31848452
Fuck you, niggerfaggot.

>>31848483
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/may/08/donald-trump/donald-trump-us-not-highest-taxed-nation-in-world/

http://www.politifact.com/new-jersey/statements/2013/apr/25/leonard-lance/leonard-lance-claims-us-has-highest-corporate-tax-/

You want to try again, bud?

>>31848483
I've never had my Record Corrected this hard.

>>31848446
>just not quite as bad
>hurr durr, blacks are extremely violent, ur statistics prove it
The stats still prove that only 14% of white murder victims are killed by blacks, a FUCKING HUGE difference.

>>31848498
>Phil calls me a niggerfaggot
>in response to pointing out the right's love of bigotry
Ahh Phil, you can always be counted on to bring the level of class down in a thread.

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Nothing. Just as usual
/pol/

>>31848510
The stats also prove just how much more niggers kill compared to their population size than any other race.

>In 2013, of the approximately 660,000 crimes of interracial violence that involved blacks and whites, blacks were the perpetrators 85 percent of the time. This meant a black person was 27 times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa. A Hispanic was eight times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa.

>In 2013, a black was six times more likely than a non-black to commit murder, and 12 times more likely to murder someone of another race than to be murdered by someone of another race.

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>>31845655
beat em to it

>>31848523
>That was the point in my life I realized I needed to make some changes. I was having an argument with a tripfaggot on /k/ on a Saturday night. It was my lowest point.

I know of a importer who is sitting on 60,000 bakes waiting until the results of the election are in.

>>31848535
Playing magic math with per-capita figures doesn't suddenly make black people super-violent like faggots like you and Phil love to pretend they do. And ignores that most of the murders committed are gang-related violence.

Also...
>not providing any sources to back up your claims
Typical. Though considering the subject matter of "poor whites are getting brutalized by blacks and hispanics", I'm not surprised.

>>31848486
>no actual details on how to enact things like the national concealed carry reciprocity, just vague claims that he supports them
Try again.

>>31848402
Polls always matter

>>31848246
>illegal immigrants are starting businesses
uh what?

>>31848523
Fraid the bigotry and the hate and the low-level intimidating violency shit is all on your side, libniggerfaggot.

>>31848554
What's a 'bake'? Am I behind on my Internet slang or did autocorrect fuck you over?

>>31847374
>>31847377
>>31847388
>>31847461
>>31847754
>>31848160
lets ignore the fact of how many felons end up being repeat offenders. even /b/tards aren't this retarded. /k/ proves time after time to have some of the most idiotic posters.

>>31848576
>presidential candidates now need to explain to voters how washington works
Have you never read a presidential candidate's position statement before? Keep moving those goalposts, CTR.

>>31848575
why don't you move to nigger infested parts of detroit or chicago then? rent would be extremely low and since they aren't super-violent there should be no down sides to living among your pet niggers.

>>31848575
>>31848575
>Playing magic math with per-capita figures doesn't suddenly make black people super-violent

>statistics hurt my feels so I will just ignore the epidemic of nigger crime

wew

>>not providing any sources to back up your claims

Lol what? They're the FBI crime statistics you mong.

>>31847888
springfield m305s are cast pot metal

norinco m305s are milled steel

norinco is a group that distributes wares from a large collection of factories. some of the factories are shit, some are not. this is why some norinco models are lame and some are awesome

>>31848644
>makes claim that black people murder lots of people
>gets proven wrong with math and statistics
>claim that same stats prove blacks are super violent, but only when viewed per-capita to whole population
>FBI says muh 6 times more likely to murder someone of another race
>doesn't post a single link to prove it
>t-t-they're from the f-FBI you faggot!
Yup, sure showed me.

>>31845572
Record lows

>>31845584
/pol/ is (((our greatest ally)))

>>31848674
>>makes claim that black people murder lots of people
But they do murder lots of people. Our violent crime rate would drop by half if niggers vanished tomorrow.
>>claim that same stats prove blacks are super violent, but only when viewed per-capita to whole population
No, they commit half of all violent crimes. Nothing per-capita about it.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf
>1992-2008
>blacks responsible for half of all violent crimes
>nearly 50% of murders
When you consider that they're around 30 million or so, and then when you consider it's mostly nigger males doing it it's more like ~12 million people out of 330,000,000 commit half of all violent crime. Really makes u think


I mean you can bury your head in the sand all you want, but it's going to be a rude awakening for you whenever you venture out of the suburbs.

>>31848724
>it's going to be a rude awakening for you whenever you venture out of the suburbs.
it won't be, because he won't. everyone that had the misfortune of growing up/living anywhere near niggers knows that they are shit. there is no other race or ethnicity that is as bad as they are. it's only the faggots living in all white and asian suburbs that preach about how great niggers are.

>>31847205
5.45 ban is from the ATF

>>31848611
The point is that when national concealed carry reciprocity has been brought up previously, the federal government getting involved in minimum standards for concealed carry permits also gets brought up. Without details on Trump's opinion on federal minimum standards for concealed carry permits his support for national concealed carry reciprocity could very well be a bad thing.

>>31848600
I think he means bakelite magazines, Phil.

>>31848752
ATF is an executive agency under the Justice Department. The president is head of the executive branch.

>>31848674
>>makes claim that black people murder lots of people
>>gets proven wrong with math and statistics
http://www.amren.com/archives/reports/the-color-of-crime-2016-revised-edition/

I know you won't read this, since your opinion wasn't formed from empirical evidence, but it was fed to you by your leftist authority figures in the media and college. The data is from the FBI and is supported with other surveys. You can check it yourself. See tables 43, 49, 55, 61 and 67 of this page, for one of the sources:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/persons-arrested/persons-arrested

>>31848767
It's better than opposing it.

Ammo would become a hell of a lot cheaper, but import guns would become more expensive.

>>31847888
>so you can play Korean War in your living room

That's literally the only reason I own guns is so I can make believe.

>>31848784

If someone thinks that federal agencies aren't given directives by the president, that person is a special brand of stupid.

The 5.45 ban (ATF) and Russian rifle import ban (EO) were the executive branch telling the people to suck a fat cock for not letting them ram a bunch of bullshit through the legislative process. Now they want to go after manufacturers because industry and the NRA basically trade fluids at this point and the NRA likes to shit on leftists and republican reps that caved to leftists.

>>31848779
Phil has always been the most serious man on /k/.

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>>31846368
>this is what /pol/tards actually believe
You've been nothing but an annoying neighbor who always invites himself in and gets his muddy shoes on the carpet. You're merely tolerated.

>>31846368
Nah.

8 responses before mine. Only one of them agrees with your statement.

>>31847341
Things people committed of their own free will as adults =/= conditions they were inherently born with.

And to be honest, I personally do believe there should be some framework for felons to earn back their rights. It shouldn't be easy, but it should be possible to do so as long as the crime(s) of the felon in question did not hurt anyone directly.

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>>31845584
Any new people here who are wondering who the people whining about /pol/ are:

They are /k/ bronies who want to fuck horses, who irrationally fear a purge from a right-wing populist government for their fetish... they're not level-headed people.

>>31848387

>The poll makers coming out and saying only 10% of people they harass actually take the time to answer and on top of that they heavily weigh them with dems

CTR pls, stop the damage control, hilldog is done.

>>31848989
But /pol/ fights for you, the whyte mann

>>31848989
and you're nothing but a reddit transplant who thinks he's at home.

Since this is apparently a /pol/ thread i thought id drop this here since /k/ has a thing for Rhodesia
>>>/pol/95178384

>>31848798
No, it absolutely is not. National concealed carry reciprocity at the cost of stricter standards for concealed carry permits being forced on states including the loss of constitutional carry in the states that have it most certainly is not worth it and is worse than not having national concealed carry reciprocity.

>>31847748
>>31847888
>entire platform talks about fucking with china
>"HE WILL REMOVE BANS WITH CHINA"
Fucking idiot. If anything you will see more import bans because "muh trade deals" and "muh american jobs". Rand Paul was the only 2016 candidate who would have allowed shit to be relaxed, now we get stuck with more AR15s and 1911s

>>31848606
>Focus on punishment, not rehabilitation
>Give low level offenders a class in criminality by locking them up for years with seasoned offenders
>Release them under arbitrary and capricious probation requirements
>Leave them second-class citizens who can't find work thanks to the stigma of a criminal conviction
Gee, I wonder why people might commit more crimes if they haven't many other options left thanks to the system we have now. It's not like the justice system industrial complex likes a steady stream of convicts to fill their beds and pay their paychecks or anything.

You have to go back.

>>31849317
no one forced them to commit the crime in the first place.

>>31849328
And why does that matter?

People can make mistakes and rise above them. It's more difficult to to so if the entire system is designed to destroy you instead.

>>31847268
Fuck you. Do it yourself you arrogant prick

>>31848000
Because by not voting for Trump you're taking a 100% chance of the Supreme Court being fucked over a 50/50 chance that it'll be fucked. You don't know what Trump will do, you hope he'll stick to his word and put in pro-gun justices. You know what Hillary will do, as she has stated she wants Australian style gun control. Yeah, the two party system fucking sucks, but there's no better electable choice right now for gun rights than Trump, and if you believe otherwise you're delusional or actually a shill.

>>31849213
>National concealed carry reciprocity at the cost of stricter standards for concealed carry permits being forced on states including the loss of constitutional carry in the states that have it most certainly is not worth it and is worse than not having national concealed carry reciprocity.

There's no guarantee that passing a national carry law would have an effect on local laws. They could just say all local laws keep their sovereignty but also pass a law for standards for a national license that allows you to carry anywhere.

>>31845572
>if Trump is elected?
but he won't be, why bother with hypotheticals

>>31849498
Hes going to win you know.

>>31849498
You know, that's what they said during the primary elections so I'm not sure about that statement anymore.

>>31849505
>>31849523
the Nile is not just a river in Egypt

>>31845594
>friendly reminder that your shilling paycheck dries up in two weeks:^)

>>31849213
Why do you think there would be a cost of stricter standards? All you ahve to do is force all states to honor all other states' issued permits. It's not unprecedented. Many states already do this.

Trump supporters are literally worse than Hitler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mmqh8kfQ-4

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>>31846368
Are we going through this again?

>>31849715

He's right though...

>>31846135
>commie shit
The only commie shit left is on major college campuses worldwide. The Soviet Union is dead, long live capitalism.

>>31849727

>...

/pol/fag spotted

>>31846160
REMEMBER 1994

Prices will probably drop slightly in coming months due to overproduction in anticipation of a Hillary win bearing false - excess inventory takes up space time and money

>>31849041
/pol/ sucks giant hitlercock, just a bunch of sore losers and mental slaves wishing for an authoritarian master to cockride them into abuseland, fantasizing about being a part of the ruling authoritarian elite since their life sucks so much now and they see no way of climbing any social ladder now (since those are less than existing for their class), RATIONALLY afraid of any self-government by the people, since if there were no institutionalized hierarchy people would treat them like the fascist douches they are (i.e. badly).

>>31848487
>Muh women and africans earn less than a white man

If this is true why don't businesses hire all female and black workers, cutting wage costs by like a quarter?

>>31846368
This, and it's hilarious watching Reddit deny it.

>>31848145
This

>>31848606
> deny this human right for felons, they're going to break the law again. None of them are people who deserve every bit of freedom we enjoy cause us non felons don't make mistakes
Ignoring the fact that maybe the fact that they're now last class individuals with little prospects and no reason to be a part of polite society, nigga they have guns anyway. When they get caught the average time they spend locked up is like 100 days. If no one even bothers to enforce that law and we continue to just have a rotating door justice system what's even the point?

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>>31846160

>>31850234

> why don't businesses hire all female and black workers

I guess anyone can easily explain the "black workers" part, culture, just plain culture. Listen to rap music, see black idols, etc. etc.

Women have PMS once per month and might drop out of the workplace to have children/are less competitive (generally speaking) etc. etc.

I hope he lifts the "sporting rifles" thing.
I want a FUCKING UMP

>>31849312
Nigga I'm aloud to dream

>>31849328
And yet they did anyway. Now we either need to move forwards or keep them locked up. Fucking over someone's whole life cause of what they did years ago isn't exactly humane in many or even most situations

>>31850265
It was kind of a rhetorical question but the answer I was looking for was "wage gap is bullshit/misinterpreted"

>>31849712
Anyone remember Hildogz thugs attacking pepole in California? Or stirring up shit in Chicago? Yeah every politician has shitty people behind them, just so happens that our impartial media cares more about one group then the other this time around

>>31850282
> Fucking over someone's whole life

I don't know how this goes in murica, but in most european countries there is a concept of something similar to "conviction record" rules built in the criminal codes. Basically if you made a small criminal act (like stole your waifu pillow from the otaku shop), you might get punished (like a month in prison) and then there is a term during which you are punished more severe if you steal another one, and your record is kept, (usually equal to the term in prison), after that - post-prison term is up, no record is being kept and you are free to say that you were never convicted.

>>31850287
>"wage gap is bullshit/misinterpreted"
Mostly bullshit though.

>>31850287
>"wage gap is bullshit/misinterpreted"

Misinterpreted. There are objective reasons in the rfield of risk management. Not the

>YUO NAZI-FASCIST-WOMEN-HATING-HITLAAHHH!!!

>>31850294
In america felon is felon and that's pretty much it. You can have your record expunged in some states but only after years of no convictions and spending thousands of dollars that you weren't able to make sense no one hires felons for decent jobs

>>31850296
You think so?

Men do make more money than women, on an average though, not on an individual basis. Men usually take careers in more lucrative fields like engineering, maths and sciences where women prefer social roles like counselors, nurses, teachers, social workers etc. which don't usually pay as much.

I will finally be able to get my powder again for less than $280 a jug.

>>31850317
>"wage gap is bullshit/misinterpreted"
>Mostly bullshit though.


I'm not him, but I share the idea.
Men do make more money than women, because they are more competitive, take more challenging jobs (do a lot of women choose careers in sea oil pumping? doing shit in alaska? etc.? statistically less, and the jobs there pay more), have PMS, tend to be "stay at home moms" more than men choose to be "stay at home dads", etc. etc. etc. a myriad of reasons.

>>31850308
Can you become a "felon" for petty crime? Like shoplifting, minor tax evasion, carcrash, etc.?

This system is ok for manslaughter/killing people, etc.

>>31850170
/pol/ on the actual board has become less hitlerblowing and more libertarian and most anger is due to mass media lying on /britpol/ now with most yelling that hitler was only right about the jews is the common consensus on /pol/ and even thats fallen under the massive shitshow of the migrant crisis and the election

>>31846368
lol no
>>31846391
Nationalism has always been an ideology for losers who can't stand good competition.

>>31850405
>now with most yelling that hitler was only right about the jews is the common consensus on /pol
>has become less hitlerblowing

right...

I am also pretty butthurt by the /britpol/ media, with the whole brexit thing, I mean I listen to BBC on a daily basis in a shit tier country half of which youth is already there in Britland, and , in many cases, leaching off social moneys . They obviously did the right thing with that brexit. Trust me.

But /pol/ is actually blowing hitler.

>>31850425
being a Brit myself i dont really go on the trump threads so im just saying from the more laid back discussion on /pol/

>>31850405
For a board that goes on about "muh white people", I don't understand how /pol/ can like a guy like Hitler; a guy who was starting fights between "fellow" white people.

>>31850414
>Nationalism has always been an ideology for losers who can't stand good competition.


Depends on the type of nationalism. The right-wing sieg-heil type? No. The state protecting the interest of its citizens from trans-national corporations, etc. etc.? Possible.

>>31850432
due to the bigger islamic issue hitler has fallen in /pol/s sights due to him supporting them with the only jew /pol/ hates being that soros bloke now

>>31850414
I agree, nationalism is a pointless ideology in the 21st Century.

I hope I live to see the day where nation-states are abolished. These meaningless borders that divide us only provoke barbaric politics, when we should be uniting under our common humanity.

>>31850432
>MUHWESTERNWORLD TRAILER
>BETTERDEADTHANRED
>HATESLAVS
>HATEJEWS
>HATEYUROPIANS

obviously "hitler did nothing wrong" ... to them. You see those are a special inbred type of ass-clowns who have nothing to be proud of than being born in on a defined piece of mud. And in case they need to cooperate - they furiously masturbate on the idea of a "western civilization", which they slow down rather than contribute to the better parts of it.

To me the only difference they have from the muslims coming to europe is that they are less violent at the time. The iq level is comparible.

>>31847493
>bring back tariff
That's beyond retarded.

>>31850437
They can't like him now, since he was very nice and cooperated with muslims regarding the whole jew thing, there are even pictures of him shaking hands with allahuakbar people with towels on their heads.

>>31850317
Further studies have shown that women are paid the same per hour for the same work done. Men work more hours. As for the types of jobs they work, it's 2016. They can do whatever they want, they choose those jobs because that's what they want to do, not because they're women. You sexist.

>>31850453
probably because hitler doomed free speech and democracy leading to the shitshow modern politics is in after the right wing was shut out of politics and now the left becomes more extreme and facist the modern right prefers more original american ideals /pol/ has always been a place for the reactionary politics against recent changes no matter the political spectrum like they used to love hitler and all he stood for but if /pol/ were the hitler loving facists they wouldn't yell about hillarys anti russia statements as modern /pol/ is more tradtional than radical due to the left being the radical in itself

>>31850337
Shoplifting more than $200 in some states, more in others. Hit and run. 3rd offense DUI in my state. Any assault that lands someone in the hospital can be determined a felony, even if you just break someone's nose (this is usually preempted by mutual combat laws however) having your prescription drugs outside of the proper bottle, messing up on tax forms, in my state exceeding the speed limit by 40 mph (who knows how often that's enforced.) Lots and lots of simple someone shit could be construed as and felony. There was a guy who wrote a book based around the theory that the average American commits 3 felonies a day, most of the time not realizing it.

>>31850490
and how bad can this felony crack-up your employment? In some of the eu countries you would be asked only if taking a high ranking job/office/special control job (police, firefighter, etc.) does it hurt the average joe?

>>31850505
Nigga they ask you when you apply at McDonald's. The only thing you have going for you is that when I ran a fast food restaurant we only ran background checks going into management cause we were cheap. Legally in Oregon employers can't ask about anything older than 7 years, but it still shows up on a background check

>>31850524
>Nigga they ask you when you apply at McDonald's.

Shit... didn't know that, police state much?

>>31845867

>Gun Jesus owns a MAGA hat

<3

>>31848724
Well first of all, I didn't grow up in the suburbs, or go to school here. I went to highschool in a rural area, where all the fucking rednecks picked on my nerdy ass, and the black guys were my friends.

>When you consider that they're around 30 million or so, and then when you consider it's mostly nigger males doing it it's more like ~12 million people out of 330,000,000 commit half of all violent crime. Really makes u think
>12 million our of 330 million
Makes me think you're full of shit.

>hurr, since it's black males let's cut their numbers in half
>but still count the whole of the American population, men and women
>it won't change the percentages at all!
Doing that intentionally makes it look like they're responsible for more murders than they actually are. Same as why you go on about how blacks are "6 times more likely" to murder, because it makes it sound like they literally are super violent, but only when you view it through the lens of some bullshit math.

Let's break down the math another way...
Total population of the US? 330 million
Total Population of US blacks? About 50 million (according to recent census data which puts them at about 16% of the population)
Total number of murders by blacks? 2500

So overall likelihood of being murdered by a black man or woman based on the 2013 murder rates? 1 in 132,000

More likely to kill you than a white person, sure, but still a very clear slim minority of blacks are out there murdering people. Which is exactly why you don't show anyone this math, and just rant about the whole "6 times as likely" thing. Because what's 6 times nothing? Oh yeah, still nothing, and you certainly can't show how little blacks actually murder, or it would ruin your narrative.

That means for every 1 black that commits a murder, there 131,999 that don't... but apparently we should treat them all like savages and criminals to assuage your feels?

>>31847291
It's not that /pol/ thinks niggers and other minorities shouldn't have rights, it's more like /pol/ doesn't want anyone but citizens to have these rights and they want to make America a homogenous society. And as far as trannies and fags owning guns I think we can all agree that the mentally ill should not be able to legally own firearms

>>31847404
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>>31847476
>>31847500
>>31847509
>He has given no detailed policy statements
>>31847550
This anon correctly points out exactly where to find detailed accounts of his policy
>>31847567
>This doesn't count I don't believe it blah blah blah blah


Jesus christ dude you would take the gold in mental gymnastics

>>31849446
>>31849679
I've seen federal minimum standards get brought up repeatedly when national concealed carry reciprocity gets brought up over the past several years. Are you completely new to this?

>>31850556
Employers just don't want felons, which is their choice, however when all of society judges them based on that status it creates a mess for everyone and some of the recidivism which costs tax payers millions is due to the way society treats these people.

>>31850714
On the other hand - don't ostracise them enough and society starts seeing that crime actually does pay and so tax payers become felons and the other tax payers spend millions because of that...

there's no easy solution...

I would say the system should be tuned and approached from different angles at the same time, since no CONCEPT would be good enough and have no problems whatsoever, the list of things that actually work, as I recall from my university criminology studies:

>first time offenders go to a separate jail, so not to be included in the "penal system life" and loose chance of rehabilitation.
Maximum emphasis on rehabilitation, costly sobriety/drug rehab programs, (sometimes mandatory) working classes, and work provided for first N months after release on parole (social adaptation).

>recidivists go to separate prisons, punished quite harder, less parole cases, they have to prove they are worthy of it (since they fucked up big time again), access to programs similar to the above mentioned are a REWARD for good social behaviour

>hardcore recidivists, strict punishments (for the sake of social justice, the normal SJ not the americunt SJW type), forced labor, focus on isolation from other parts of society. Any integration programs are available only after the prisioner acts good during his whole sentence in prison.

The problem is properly distributing felons among these types of treatment, since all three are needed. You don't place a three-time-rapist-killer/drug-dealer in summerhouse conditions with psychologists all around, and teach him how to be a plumber. On the other hand - you don't throw a guy who wanted to cheat the tax inspectorate once to the same killers/drug-dealers.

>>31850640
>That means for every 1 black that commits a murder, there 131,999 that don't... but apparently we should treat them all like savages and criminals to assuage your feels?

No, we should watch the statistics, they commit more crimes - they get more "po po" attention, its quite easy and understandable.

Then they either unfuck themselves and start caring for their children and their education more - thus reducing the number of violent crime rates to be approximately coherent with their percentage of population, and get the same attention that, let's say japanese have, or they stick to their

>muhnig gutt shot by the popo while just robbin a st0re, cuz hez blakkk! muhracist popo, kill pigs, let's RIOT MYHNIGG!!!

And everything stays the same.
I'm a white male, if we would be the leading cause of shootouts in the streets I would fully uderstand why we would get police attention. I would not speak of racism.

But while the blacks - while being somewhere around 15% of the population commit half of violent crimes - its their problem, black people statistically are more violent and more criminal.

Smart black people realize it and try to change the situation, by not leaving their baby momma house for smokes for 15 years.

Dumb negroes start screaming some unintelligible things about racism, blacklivesmatter, and act in defiance of objective reality.

>>31847113
they aren't hard to make

>>31846469
Maybe he needs that monster truck for his magnum dong