Chinese Drones

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>>31827597
CH-5 UAV.

Eight AR-1 and AR-2 ATGMs per side.

Do they make their stuff look exactly like ours to piss us off?

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>>31827611
Reaper has to step down now.

>>31827597
absolutely

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>>31827629
civilian

>>31827623
I'm sure theres enough chinks working in the US defense industry that the chinese have all the blueprints/info needed.

Or maybe they just pay the clinton foundation for it.

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>>31827627
CH-5's "head". EO turret seems retractable.

>>31827649
You know security clearances exist right dumbass?
One of the reasons China's military isn't very frightening is because they're basically monkey see monkey do.

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>>31827651
But the competitor Ms. Wing Loong II (Pterodactylus II) doesnt want to have her spotlight taken by the CH-5.

China sure wants to get into the fad of using "Anti Tank UAVs" with large amounts of missiles.

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>>31827677

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>>31827684
And most probably, it is the Wing Loong II that will be selected by the PLA.

Since the CH-5 is made by a private company, while the WL-II is made by AVIC, the state owned company.

After all, the WL-I already serves the PLAAF.

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>>31827697
People are assembling something...

>>31827623
They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Only if they imitated our freedom.

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>>31827710
What could it be...

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>>31827725
Oh, there it is.

The Shadow Cloud stealth reconaissance UAV

>>31827627
That Reaper is carrying a heavier payload, and it is not even the extended wing variant.

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>>31827734
We have already seen this one before... But with two IR-suppressed engines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sl6_UoY7lg

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>>31827759
Some small guy.

>>31827629
>>31827635
Holy shit dude, can you keep your shit in /gq/? For fuck's sake.

>>31827623
They do it so that when war happens no one will know what the fuck is going on. Its the EternalEnvy doctrine of war.

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>>31827672
>One of the reasons China's military isn't very frightening is because they're basically monkey see monkey do.

Frightening if you're best customer starts counting beans and buys chink.

>>31827611
More info on missiles? Caliber?

>>31828515
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HJ-10

>>31828138
>Iraq

They buy Chinese, Russian, American, and French.

Anon, you're retarded.

>>31828529
Chinese for high tech like drones, Russian for the reliable low tech, American for the monkey models that are getting captured by ISIS all the time and French for shit.

>>31828138
Your broken english is impressive, really.
All major defense and technology companies are based in the United States, you don't have a leg to stand on. Things are: designed here, built here, used here. Copied by aesthetic only by China.

I like how you spammed your Numbah one China thread for a half hour and no one took your bait.

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>>31827800
A CUTE

C
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T
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>>31827747
You could theoretically mount way more Hellfires on a Reaper than the customary four, but it was deemed unsafe for airframe stability.

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>Conflict News @Conflicts 11h11 hours ago

>LIBYA: Satellite photos show UAE base operating Chinese Yilong drones & AT-802 light attack aircraft - @JeremyBinnie

>>31827597
No one else noticed how flat the tires are? and the janky wing supports? It looks like they got a supply of ikea furniture and said "hey, I know what will go well with that propaganda photoshoot, that leftover furniture foam positioned obviously as an afterthought."

>>31827800
Organic anti tank UAV at the company level. Is armor fucked in WW3?

>>31828892
Those are tire caulks you dolt. You put those front and back so your aircraft don't get blown around by wind

>>31829166
hey wang or chang or huang or tang- I was mentioning the the fucking 2 dollar scissor lift dollys they are using to keep the wings on. not plastic wedges they stole from the last shipment of barbies dream motorhome that they shoved behind 2 of the undersized underpressurizied wheels. Look at the side view wee-man- still fucking flat.

>>31829135
America has the tech a long time ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSg6ZrgSzOc

>>31829383
>RPG vs full on ATGM
What is the point of this video

>>31829307
Oddly enough just having the wings sat there with a full load stationary, for a long period of time could damage the wings.
Actually think about it for 10 seconds, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that this is real, it's just a prop plane with advanced remote control ffs, not an aircraft carrier.

>>31829307

Not one of the chinese shills but the engineering in china is on par with the US.

The manufacturing, QC and operational understanding is still about 20 wars behind.

That being said, a single chinkshit drone is better than zero drones. If I had to fight using drones in a doctrine, you use them for CAS, loiter time and recon.

You don't need them for much else. Chinkdrones are fine for that, deflated tired, flame out engines and all.

>>31827723
Only a matter of time. They've already surpassed the US in pure capitalist doctrine.

>>31827623
No. It's the limit of their own technological capability.

Anything China has that's not shit is either copied from the West or Russia.

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>>31827597
What's that on the right?

Pic related.

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>>31831249
scale model of the CH-805 high speed stealth drone.

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>>31831254

>>31831254
Ah, thanks.

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WL-II looks nicer.

>>31831254
>high speed

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Cloud Shadown stealthy attack UAV

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>>31827904
go to bed curtis.

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Stealth missile!

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>>31831385

>>31831385
>>31831389
I wish the faggot was still here who claimed that the Chinese cannot make stealth missiles for some reason.

I really fucking wish they could come over to eat their words.

>>31827597
>WHAT'S THE WORLD COME TO
>WHEN BULLETS ARE ALL THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND
>WHAT'S THE WORLD COME TO
>WHEN ALL THAT I TOUCH WILL LEAVE BLOOD ON MY HANDS
>I WANT YOU TO KNOW
>DON'T TAKE IT SLOW
>JUST COME UNDONE
>>>AND THE SIN WILL TAKE HOLD
>I CAN'T HOLD IT BACK
>IT'S TOO MUCH TO ASK

>>31830777
This.
The Chinese might be smart enough to build modern day military hardware but they can't innovate for shit.

>>31831446
>cant innovate

http://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/security/chinas-2000km-quantum-link-is-almost-complete

>China’s 2,000-km Quantum Link Is Almost Complete
>The Beijing-Shanghai project will form the backbone of the nation’s quantum communications network

http://qz.com/760804/chinas-new-quantum-satellite-will-try-to-teleport-data-outside-the-bounds-of-space-and-time-and-create-an-unbreakable-code/
>China’s new quantum satellite will try to teleport data outside the bounds of space and time
http://phys.org/news/2016-08-china-quantum-satellite-major-space.html
>China's launch of quantum satellite major step in space race

http://en.people.cn/n3/2016/0908/c98649-9112553.html
>China successfully develops quantum radar system

>The quantum radar system was developed by the Intelligent Perception Technology Laboratory of the 14th Institute of CETC. Researchers completed experiments on quantum detection and target scattering characterization. In the target detection experiment, conducted in a real atmospheric environment, the detection ability of the system was proven to be over 100 kilometers.
>According to a Sept. 8 report by Mingbao Daily, the theoretical basis of the quantum radar is that an object will change its quantum properties after receiving photonic signals. The quantum radar can easily detect stealth aircraft and is highly resistant to becoming jammed. Military experts have stated that once a stealth aircraft is located by the radar, it stands little chance to escape the strikes of air defense missiles.

http://www.sciencealert.com/china-s-nuclear-fusion-machine-just-smashed-germany-s-hydrogen-plasma-record
>China's nuclear fusion machine just smashed Germany's hydrogen plasma record


WHY CANT AMERICA?
WHY CANT JAPAN?
WHY CANT THE WEST?

You are all inferior to China now. No joking.

Have fun being proud of being able to build obsoltete turbofan engines... All the while, China is moving into Quantum age.

>all these "OC DONNUT STEEL" designs

>>31831428
Well it kind of goes with the saying that china is 20-30 years behind the us.

Us was produceing stealth cruise missiles in 1985

>>31831490
t. zhang

>>31831490

Any legitimate sources?

>>31831559
These sorces are legitimate.

But you could also google.

>>31827684
>Wing Loong II
Yes, I can see

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>A Chinese company has developed the new multiple rocket launcher with cruise missiles and unitary rockets that hide in a container.

>The new container missile system will display at the 11th China International Aviation & Aerospace Exhibition (Airshow China 2016) in Zhuhai.

>Universal launching module, performed as the standard maritime container-type. Putting the launcher system into a standard shipping container allows the missiles to be moved and stored without arousing suspicion, which in turn renders pre-emptive strikes against the launcher very difficult.

>The container missile system has been fitted with a WS-43 miniature attack cruise missiles and module of unitary rockets from multiple launch rocket system.

>The container missile system it can be mounted on the vehicle chassis or hidden inside a shipping container.

America BTFO

>>31832063
Its a warcrime to employ weapons on civilian assets as a state actor.

Transport them all day, thats fine though.

I mean, realistically if such a weapon were used it would just work once or twice before the opposition just goes weapons free on every vessel that violates whatever zone they set up around their ships or taskforce or whatever.

>>31832107
>warcrimes

as if anyone cares.

And if the US wants to blockade China anyway, why shouldnt civilian ships not be used as auxiliarty missile cruisers?

China has a civilian fleet of 67.000+, which would translate in quite a few large tonnage missile cruisers brimming with hundreds of missiles.

>>31832107
>civilian assets
It's painted in camouflage and is probably hauled by a PLA prime mover, also painted in camouflage. Doesn't look civilian at all.

>>31832135
If its painted red, as is implied, then it looks like anything else.

>>31832122
>every chinese flagged vessel is a pla asset

Wew laddy

>>31832063
>container memes
>making civilian transportation, ports and facilities into legitimate military targets

There's a reason why nobody has bothered to purchase this when the Russians tried it.

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>>31832063
>WS-43 Miniature Attack Cruise Missile System (Loitering Attack Munition)
>The US(Lockheed Martin) terminated its XM501 loitering rocket development program after its poor performance test and high cost in 2011.

>>31832107
It's also a warcrime to bomb civilian hospitals.
>I wonder what the USAF did just last year

Geneva conventions don't mean shit, militaries gonna military.

>>31828560
Yoiu think there isn't chinese engineers & scientists working at these defense companies? Or jews or blacks or spics or other types of asians who sell the shit to the highest bidder?

Anything thats fielded in the military like drones or stealth tech is 100% availible to foreign governments with espionage programs.

>>31832166
>Loitering Attack Munition
Don't the brits have something like that

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>>31832063
Finally! Time to turn America's sea-lane blockade into a gueriila nightmare.

This big guy (one of the largest container ships in the world) would be an ideal missile battlebarge and centerpiece of any blockade smashing operation.

Since Tombstone-styled AESA FCRs are already containerized, you could also arm those containers with S-300 styled SAMs.

>>31832166
Just because the US can't manage something doesn't mean its impossible.

Usually there is some shitty physical requirement like weight/size that the government refuses to change.

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>>31832154
>making civilian transportation, ports and facilities into legitimate military targets
>literally what hohols thought
>could war criminals ever learn?

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>>31832184
never mind, found it

>Fire Shadow is a missile designed by MBDA for the British Army. It is designed to loiter above the battlefield for up to 6 hours before attacking stationary or mobile targets. Fire Shadow weighs less than 200 kg and is relatively low-cost. It is surface-launched and has a range of approximately 100 km; it can fly to a target area and then loiter for approximately six hours before precision attack on a specific target.
Fucking badass

>>31832203
>Implying the US doesn't bomb civilian infrastructure and vehicles 24/7

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>>31832166
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCJgYnZNzH4

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>>31827684
I get the fear mongering, but how much Chinese writing do you see on American prototypes? Look at me sempi I'm totally not completely shit at copying everything you do.

>>31832168
If you can prove the US intentionally did it, yes its a warcrime.

>>31827597
His mom knows there is no way he'll use even a fraction of them before getting blotted out of the sky.

China is strong! The US has lost its dominance. It is time for a new super power.

>>31832187

Cool story, how does it deal with the submarines and sea mines?

>>31831385
> Stealth
>Rivets

Pick One

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PL-10 for export!

Shit can pull off 60G turns and enable over-the-shoulder shots.

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>>31832337
How will merchant ships of allied countries deal with sea-mines?

And how will submarines deal with them?

>>31832288
>AC-130U pounds a hospital for 29 consecutive minutes firing 211 shells due to reports of Taliban in the area
>Cockpit recordings show even the flight crew questioned whether it was legal
It was a warcrime but the USA gets off the hook because the USA makes the rules.

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>>31832343
>Sheet-metal
>rivets
>Stealth

pick one.

>>31832375
>questioned weather its legal

Lel

>>31832343
So you haven't seen that the F-22 is covered in rivets.

>>31832378
Jsow is not stealth, friend.

Thanks for making his point?

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>>31832343
>>31832378

JSOW also has rivets. And clearly visible predetermined breaking points

>>31832346
High boresight, yes.

Over the shoulder, no, that requires LOAL.

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>>31832343
Guess the F-22 isn't stealth then :(

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>>31832406
You fucking serious?

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/agm-154-joint-standoff-weapon-jsow/

>AGM-154 design features

>The JSOW incorporates a low-signature/stealth design. The modular weapon body allows the integration of new sensors, warheads and sub-munitions. The stealth features enhance the survivability of the missile to strike actively defended targets.

Even your overhyped LRASM STEALTH MISSILE has rivets.

>>31832412
See
>>31832406


Jsow is not a stealth asset. Its a glide bomb.

>>31827629
>>31827635
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

>>31832446
see
>>31832438

It is.

Just as the LRASM, another riveted missile, my friend.

>>31832438
Yes, im serious.

>airforce tech

Lel

>even LRASM has rivets

Thats not an LRASM, but a weight testing medium.

>>31832461
Thats cute, but thats not an LRASM in your pic.

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>>31832462
>>31832476
This also not?

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American pride crushed so fucking much.

They are grasping for straws now.

Let's give them the rest, comrades!

Pic related: American quality

>>31832496
Unknown, dont where where you got it from.

>>31832510
Its called a cold start.

>>31832510
>what us ships look like when shit is seriously wrong is what russian ships look like under normal operating conditions

Really makes you think

>>31832364

By containing the PLAN in the island chains the mine threat can be minimised. Submarines can mostly be used in deep waters away from the littoral areas mines are used.

So one time in Afghanistan (2010) I saw a black UAV that looked like the batplane. Has anyone ever seen a American UAV that looks like what i described??

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>>31832523

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>>31832567
them sheet-metal joints

>>31827597
>that b2 model over to the side

Wew

>>31832579
>>31832567
B-1 captive carry test?

If so, yep, it was a test medium.

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>>31832579
Storm shadow as well.

>>31832593
Show me an operational LRASM then.

Not the plastic model.

>>31832605
There is no such thing as an operational LRASM. The initial operational LRASMs are due on 2018.

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>>31832624
Here is the JASSM (an actual LO missile), which body the LRASM uses.

Notice anything?

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>>31831385
>>31831389
Bet that this one will be better than the JSOW-ER or LRASM.

No fins means less reflection. No Control-surfaces means that is would steer via TVC (which is a mature technology for China's missiles, pic related).

This thing will be stealthier than the premiere US stealth missile.

>>31832652
Not with that big ole intake it wont.

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>>31832642
Yes, I said no plastic model.

Enjoy your actual JASSM

>>31829166
>tire caulks you dolt

Chocks you dolt

>>31831385
>stealth
>looks like a flying block

>>31832660
Intake is a small matter, since it naturally forms an S-duct anyway, because the engine sits above the intake.

Whatever minimal reflection from the inlet lip can be solved by a light coat of RAM, or some modification to the shape.

Control surfaces are much larger source of RCS.

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>>31832674
there are worse.

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>>31831385
>>31831389
>China can into stealth missile now!

Fuck Yes.

Another victory for Glorious China!

>>31832682
The intake sticking out like that is huge, the missile will be completely coated in ram. Both missiles have compareable control surfaces.

There is no intake at all on the jassm, its just a slit

>>31832642
This is pretty damn cool. To defeat this, the opposition will have to rely more on active emissions which will make killing them even easier.

>>31827623
>Copy paste paper tiger technology
At a certain point, all tech would start to visually converge because the end goal of said tech would be shared among the different manufacturers/designers. Eventually, unless you go out of your way to make your project visually distinct, it would look similar if not identical, assuming you shared goals and restrictions (like our limited-capital armies do), to your competitors project.
Essentially, If you want a bullet to do bullet things, it has to look like a bullet. Why reinvent the drone?

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>>31832730

>Both missiles have compareable control surfaces.

If you looked at the photos carefully, you will see that there is a big fucking straight fin sticking out:
>>31832642

And two fucking stabiliziers on the side:
>>31832662

In addition to the wings, which cannot be helped.

Yeah, intake wise, there are some issues with the Chinese missile, but that's not that of a problem really, since no fanblades will be reflected due to natural S-duct.

Also, nothing would prevent them to modify the intake like their KD-20 cruise missiles, which are also just slits and do not even stick out.

>>31832745
No, they only have to use a lighter and a bit zippo fuel and this missile will melt.

Because it is plasic.

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>>31832777
>muh plastic

Lel

>>31832777
>Autonomously detects all targets in a specified area without offboard control
>Low observable to radar, infrared and has little in the way of emissions

Plastic's good, gives it more range, less risk of detection, and larger warhead.

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I like how the entire nosecone is made in one part to reduce frontal RCS.

Unlike riveted together like the LRASM:
>>31832567
>>31832579

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>>31832793
That's the same plastic model lel.

Enjoy some real ones with 100% more rivets.

>>31827672
yes, and everyone who has a security clearance had their information, including SS number and personal details stolen by the Chinese.
it doesn't really matter to them.

>>31832820
Dunno why people are triggered by rivets. If they are smaller than wavelength it goes around them.

>>31832820
>>31832806
Motherfucker, they both have rivets.

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>>31832709
>cultural preservation
>China

>>31832769
KD-20 has a protrudeing intake on the back.

The problem with TVC on cruise missiles is it absolutely destorys your range because you cant glide, or go high alt and turn off and on when you get low, delayed start, etc.

>>31832846
Not on the nosecone. Not the Chink one.

After all, frontal RCS is much more important. If the nosecone is one-piece, it will reduce RCS.

>>31832867
Barely, reducing rcs is not a simple affair. That and I would venture to say that the intake would negate any benefit of the nosecone, but then again neither of us know anything about radar reducing construction so its really pointless to argue.

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>>31832857
Have you even worshipped Bodhisattva-Emperor Mao and his Ten Pillars (Generals)?

Taiwan is garbage compared to that. All of the Chinese culture they still claim to have is basically replaced with Weaboo shit.

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>>31832820
>more weight testing

I guess they made TWO models, huh?

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>>31832969
Literally says mockup.

Pic is the real JASSM.

Why dont you just give up.

Rivets mean nothing and do not impact stealth as much as you want it to be.

>>31833032
Where?

>>31833200
Fucking photo and the shape is nothing like the JASSM that is used today. Pic is from the early 2000s/late 90s. The JASSM was only operational in 2009.

Mockup as shit.

Do you think I cant google source?

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Dayum.

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>>31833230
Looks just like avenger c.

Not that great, there are plenty of better steath designs out there.

https://twitter.com/OedoSoldier/status/791956910312333312

125mm vs reinforced concrete block

>>31833384
Full NORINCO ad

https://twitter.com/OedoSoldier/status/791911392236273664

>>31827800
>Some small guy
Marco Rubio?

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>>31829135
Armor is fucked all around.

Great thread!

>>31827597
More missiles is more weight is shorter time in the air. China isn't fighting any serious coin so functionality isn't important. I'd take longer loiter time over 16 missiles for coin ops

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>>31833230
YJ-9E seems to be some sort of small anti-ship missile.

I wonder if that drone would be carrier capable or something.

>>31832187
I wonder what kind of international/maritime law clusterfuck would ensue from China attacking somebody with a Liberian-flagged ship.(note the "Monrovia" on the stern)

>>31832063
>inside a shipping container
Is this real or just a very elaborate marketing scheme for World in Conflict 2?

>>31835763
Impressive thread

>>31832154
>There's a reason why nobody has bothered to purchase this when the Russians tried it.
It's a central piece in their modular 22386 corvette which has just started its construction.

>>31831490
This is what the west gets for becoming anti-nationalist. Honestly we deserve to lose at this point.

That said, I really doubt China could ever beat the west though. They have a nasty habit of losing wars, their armies are inexperienced, and their people are naturally small. However, the west keeps eating itself and weakening itself so who knows. A united nation could probably do some real damage to the fragmented state of the west.

>>31831559
Most of that is bullshit- the quantum stuff is propaganda Things like the satellite will serve research purposes, but " try to teleport data outside the bounds of space and time" is 100% BS as I'm sure you realize. But the fusion one is true. Not a huge deal because it's just a giant Tokamak, and apparently is big for the sake of being big. The US is closing it's last Tok because it isn't a promising reactor design for generating energy, only for research.on things like chamber shape

>>31836614
>world in conflict
banon ;-;
fuck you webb

>>31827597
The chinks have the creativity of toddler with Down's Syndrome.

Yeah, just steal shit and call it your own. That's the spirit of innovation that will win you dominance of the Pacific.

Are they still working on reverse engineering that downed stealth chopper during that Bin Laden kill?

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>its another "look at all the things china copied from everybody else" episode