Knife general

Last thread had a few vids of some old school vietnam warrior that taught the best way to incapacitate with a knife is either stabbing up the ribs or directly up their asshole. He never mentioned the liver though, wonder whats up with that. Seems like it would be a good point to stick a blade, full of nerve endings, debilitating pain capable of shutting down any reaction, also relatively accessible even in armor.
He also mentioned The Ka-Bar being optimal, with blade length, width, shape and metallurgy. I dont recall him commenting on the FS or V42, but it may be because he went with what he was issued, though I havent browsed his channel.

>>31807811
...Are you the kid from Trops with the Fox karambit folder? =/

Need advice:
I'm looking for a strong knive: something like 10 inch blade, 0,2inch thickness, non-wooden handles, no saw like stuff on the back and the back of the blade shouldn't loose thickness til close to the tip.
was thinking about the Ontario Knife Company RAT-7 or KA-BAR BK39 or smith n wesson SWCKSURG. Any comments about those? or should i know something that I could have forgotten? or just general advice would be great.

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>>31807811
Can't wait for my douk

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>>31808516
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/CN2359HC/condor-tool-knife-ctk235-9hc-moonshiner-knife-carbon-steel-blade-hardwood-handles-leather-sheath

I recently lost my knife (fell out of my pocket in a boating accident, %100 serious) and need a knew 2-3" pocket folder. Ideas?

I'm not looking to spend more than $50, so I'm not expecting something insane or magical, just the best value for that money.

>>31809067
you got any comments on that one? like have you used it? and is it full (and fully wide) tang?

>>31809084
you should probably specify what you are looking for... I'm currently using this one, and I'm pretty happy with it: Nieto bird n trout

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>>31807811

79bucks for this LL Bean knife
seemed pretty sweet to me like a poor man's randall

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>>31807811
>SOG Scuba Demo
Mah Nigga.

>>31809122

For 10$ a month (for five years), a Randall is hardly out of anyone's league.

Pay a monthly fee and forget about it, in years you'll have a 10/10 knife

You could have done much better for 80bucks

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>>31808516

Busse B11 is by far your absolute best choice.

>>31809355

Back when SOG was SOG

>>31809084

Look into second hand websites and knife and gun forums.

Many times you'll see high end knives listed for a low or lower price.

If cared to a minimum, a high quality knife that is second hand will be totally worth it.

Many of my high end 300$+ knives I bought second hand.

My best find has been a TOPS Steel Eagle for 27$, or a Chris Reeve for 70$

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Im back again to answer questions.

I didnt mention I'm a knife user on the regular and that I am into knife design as well.

I cannot provide many pictures, or any of my collection, which is at 70+ knives

>>31807811
I need a good folding knife
I don't like spyder co oval blade and i heard good things about the cold steel law man. Also blue ridge has a 30 dollar folding knife designed by esee

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>>31809520

Cold Steel makes excellent working knives.

The Voyager has a great blade shape but the handle is far from standard, and thus not for everyone. The Finn Wolf is apparently excellent.

Benchmade has some great ones as well if you lurk a bit.

However if you're looking for a good one that is also aesthetic I suggest you stop looking into brands and start looking into designers.

For example I love just about everything Bill Harsey designs, and there was a brand called Lone Wolf that made his designs.

If its going to be a beater dont worry too much about brand unless its a chink piece of shit brand. It is true more expensive high end knives will most of the time perform better, but only because they're more refined. If you can overcome lack of refinement just about any knife with a reasonable design will perform.

Spydercos have a great design, cutting ability and a great size to weight ratio.

>>31809460
looks great, but damn son the price is a bit out of my league... thanks anyways

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>>31809580

If you ever look into big money knives, lurk a lot and go to forums.

I bought my B11 for about 270 €, due to a mistake on the part of the retailer that thought it was another knife.

From experience I can tell you Busse is one of the brands that deserves all the hype it gets, I recommend you try INFI if you ever have the chance.

The rest of the basic line (B9, B10) could be more affordable if you find them.

>>31809602
I actually know a guy who makes micarta handles (he actually got me into knives) i really like the ashy white handle as its still aesthic but highly visable

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>>31807811
>>31809355
>scuba knife
>leather sheath
That's the exact type of shit I berate them for...

>>31809576
Speaking of cold steel what do you think of their stiletto knife?

>>31808524
Eventually i will get one just to have it.

>>31809818

I regard Cold Steel like a trashy brand that makes cool stuff.

They're like the grown up kids that got do make all the cool stuff of their dreams.

For this I'd say if you're looking for an authentic Stilletto by all means look elsewhere, but if you want to just play around with one or just try out the design, Cold Steel makes the best low and medium tier knives of the industry, because they're so strong and affordable.

I specialize in fixed blades btw, I dont care much for folders and I use a multitool.

>>31808524

Reminds me of Albert Camus for some reason.

>>31807811
>savant

Savantism is a condition particular to autistic people.

>>31809854
Any recommendations for a stiletto then?
I like fixed knives too ( i have a mora kabar schrade and some others) however i work in an office so I'd like a folding knife for edc

>>31810072

I dont know, I'm not into folders.

I'd first lurk around on well known italian knife stores like Collini and see if there's something I like, then google the brands etc....

It's not very hard nowadays, look on bladeforums and knifeforums as well

>>31810072
Frank B for a stiletto

>>31809836
That's why I'm getting it. I like old pattern high carbon knives. Have a Mercator, opinel, okapi, douk was next on my list.

>>31809602
Thanks for the infos m8

>>31808516
Ive been happy with my Ontario Gen2 SP50
Great value

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>>31807811
Work buddy of mine made me a sheath.
Feel free to judge accordingly

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>>31811520

>>31811520
Edges are messy, stitching looks fine, color is neat, holds a knife/10

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>>31811539
I gave um 20$ for it. I like it more than the plastic "tacticool" one it came with

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>>31811560
I use um both at work. So far so OK
/end dump

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>>31811560
I've ever been a stickler for sheath aesthetics. As long as the stitching is beefy and it doesn't have a snap button I'm pretty much okay with whatever. This is my favorite sheath.

>>31811619
Good shit man. I had one of those damn buttons on my nylon sheath. Hated it, cut that bitch off and didn't regret it

>>31811520

Looks rough but if it works it works

I appreciate handmade stuff much more than industrial things.

>>31809701
>Narutard
>Berating anybody for anything

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>>31811778

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2.7oz
Titanium liners
World's best ao mechanism

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Chris Reeve sebenza: best or greatest knife ever made?

>>31811941
Almost thought you weren't coming

>>31811941
There he is

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Prove you can thumb roll a knife

>>31811941
Sebenza is not the best knife. Sorry

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>>31812632
Sorry friend but that isn't one of the options.

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My EDC knifes

>>31812655
No, but the truth.

>>31812655
Go to bed Chris

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>>31811941

Best.

I love the Native American myself

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>>31811941
>>31812655
what a terrible troll are you even trying anymore or are you legitimately afraid of being banned

>>31809084
Kershaw makes good cheap stuff. I've got 2 that are decent. I used one to cut a shitload of roofing tiles a while back and after soaking in some alchohol to get the tar off+ quick sharpening it was good as new

>>31811913

I'd much rather have a small Mission titanium knife than that. I dont like folders.

>>31809517

I want to buy my first 'big knife'.

Needs to be rugged, good for woodsman activities. Will definitely be batonning wood. Ideally would like some kind of guard at the hilt.

Essentially a big, general purpose knife that can be used for chopping small trees/timbers but could also be used for combat.

>>31813130
I'd be a little sad if they banned him. Like waking up one day and a wart you'd had for years was gone.

>>31811576

What's that knife on the right?

>>31813173

It all depends on the money, like almost all other things

>>31811576
What brand is the left one my main man?

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>>31813203
Looks like one of these, not sure though

Gerber gator, not many fixed blades had the scoop with a tang exposed like that

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>>31809084
A few ganzos

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>>31813217
This maybe ? Hk tanto

Getting a special edition cs voyager xl tanto,for cheap. Thoughts on the knife?

>>31813351

Cold Steel is my guilty pleasure if it's for cheap

The regular medium works good for me, the large must be lots of fun

Serrations on them are notoriously bad though

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>>31813170
Prefer fixed myself too. Usually edc an esee 3.

But out of all the folders that have come and gone over the years, it's the HK that stayed.

>>31813494
Yeah i hope its good. Its like 70 bucks,plus the special edition has a better steel. Sadly its a combo edge,which would be fine if the serrations were better for cutting harder stuff,they are pretty much just for flesh and cloth

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>>31812655
I'd prefer my Benchmade Contego over a Sebenza any day.

>>31809084
A used Spyderco Salt if you don't want to worry about rust ever.

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>>31814096

Not true

>>31811520

That's a pretty bad job, but if he's just learning it's okay. I'm in the middle of making a simple sheath right now. Will post when finished.

>>31814139
If you look up where that picture came from, you'd find out that it was something else getting on the knife and rusting, not the knife itself.

>>31809701
for once youre right about something

>>31813257
Clearly not the same handle.. what are you blind ?

>>31814196
yeah, not either of you but links and proof plox

>>31809102
its a wonder knife

if you really dont want wooden handles they have a micarta version

>>31809102
Condor is goat. Great sheats and great knives for half the money youre paying for kabars shit

>>31813130
I always chuckle when he chimes in with that fucking picture

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Are poorfags allowed here?

This is the result of treating my mora with citric acid last weekend. Just soaked it in lime juice for about 4 hours. Left is before, right is after. The lettering also got filled in which I think looks cool.

>>31814758
I dig it. Always wanted to get a mora, just never got around to it.

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>>31815102

Unless you plan to beat the hell out of it, get an FFG reground Mora instead. They're cheap and a 2mm Mora reground to FFG gives custom-like performance for really cheap.

>>31815186
You sharpen your knives? That mirror edge is wicked

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>>31815334

That one isn't even that much of a mirror, honestly.

This is an example of a freehand mirrored edge by me.

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>>31815395
Gonna need instructions mate.

>>31815404

From.whst starting point? Are you experienced at free hand sharpening and just want to know what stone progression I used?

>>31815102
They're like $10 on amazon, prime shipping too. Tons of colors. I like the bright blue and bright orange ones. They're not tactical, but a sharp knife that's easy to spot is a good addition to any pack.

>>31815186
>FFG reground Mora instead

Can you explain what this means? Is an FFG some other brand of knife or something?

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I want a knife like the one from Kingsglaive OP what do you recommend.

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>>31815418
I bought a waterstone recently and it's my first time using it, I want to say I suck, but I'm not sure. I can make a great outgoing edge with my dominant hand but have trouble pushing or pulling in the reverse direction/ flipped side.

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>>31815518
Full flat grind instead of a scandi grind

See picture

>>31814280
What is it then ? Pray tell?

>>31815604
Mark the edge with a marker, and practice with a shit knife. Takes some getting used to.

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>>31811310
>I like old pattern high carbon knives. Have a Mercator, opinel, okapi, douk was next on my list.
Same here. I sort of started collecting simple affordable pockets knives from different countries around the world. Mainly through the internet, but hopefully I'll save enough money to travel and buy them in person.

>>31815585
Look up kukris, parangs, and eneps.

As for brands, Himalayan Imports has the best kukris IMO. Aranyik sells some cheap eneps, though they'll need work to really be good. Condor has some good reproductions of all of them.

>>31815518
>Can you explain what this means? Is an FFG some other brand of knife or something?
FFG stands for "full flat ground". It's a very efficient cutting geometry that makes a mora a very good slicer.

>>31815662
>>31815662
Sodbuster, svord peasant, Higonokami all on my list to pick up.

>>31815604

Then I would start with searching on YouTube for "A Tutorial on Burr Based Sharpening" and practice until you can reliably get a sharp, burr free edge off of a sharpening stone in the 400-1000 grit range.

>>31815585

Look on weeb sites or have one custom made.

What's the best knife I can get for 20 bucks?

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>>31815864

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>>31807811
Thoughts?

>>31807811
Would a Ka-bar make a good parrying dagger?

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Pic related has been my workhorse field knife. Very comfortable and versatile.

>>31816361
>Can only be used in 1-2 grips due to handle shape
>versatile

No.

>>31816248

Since the only thing you need a parrying dagger for is impotent Jamal stabbing fantasies, a plastic knife would work just as well.

>>31815864

Mora, no question

>>31816745
Yeah...I appreciate you passing your opinion, but you don't know shit.

>>31816745
OK

>>31816248
You mean like for rapier fencing??

No, it doesn't have proper quillons or other hand protection. Also, too short.

>>31813203
Some.field and stream I grabbed at dicks one day. Was like 15$ I think.

>>31813217
What>>31813288 said.
I like it so far. Feels good and balanced.
Wasn't a fan on the plastic sheath. But that's just a preference

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Just finished this sheath. It's friction fit, no belt loop.

>>31811778
A knife I can get behind, high flat, comf handle, small sharpening choil, bugger all wasted blade real estate, tapered tang.

>Would own/10 anon

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>>31809854
>I specialize in fixed blades btw,
I'm about to order a bunch of finnish blades, any experience with leuku and puuko?

Also a more general question, what do you like your handles to be made out of?

>>31816771
He's right though, blade shape looks good, palm swell looks good, individual finger grooves... nope

>>31817954
OK

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>>31807811
What knife did I find op? Is it valuable? Any good?

>>31815796
Here's the ones on my wishlist that you might be interested in.

Okapi (South Africa)
Perrin Vende Douk (made by Douk Douk, design is from Corsica)
Mikov Rybička (Czech Republic)
MAM (Portugal)
Rampuri (India)
Trattenbach Feitl (Austria)
EKA (Sweden)
Fogarizzu Resolza (Sardinia)
Shilin Cutter (Taipei)

>>31817989
Get a macro shot at any markings on the knife if you want a good answer.

>>31817989
It literally says on the blade, I doubt it's valuable, wear seems to be mostly cosmetic so yes its good. Clean it and use it to cut things.

Not op

>>31818015
The only thing it says on the blade is "Concord Solingrad Germany" or something like that.

>>31818003
Turns out it says "Concord Solingen Germany" on one side, that's it though

>>31809453
so you're comparing a $600 knife to an $80 knife?

>>31818044
>>31818064
Solingen, Germany is where it was made. Pretty famous blademaking town. A shitton of knives for the US market back in the 50s-70s (maybe earlier) were made there under all sorts of manufacturers. Don't know what Concord means, but it's probably the brand.

I'm not an expert or anything, but I'm fairly sure that it's not really worth anything. It might make a decent user if you clean it up though.

>>31814295
Proof of H1's rust resistance?

Here are the ones against:
https://www.spyderco.com/forumII/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=47273

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?235763-Looking-for-an-oddball-probably-custom

There wasn't any followup as in the first thread, the guy stopped replying and in the second one, the guy cleaned up the knife before Spyderco could look at it.

Spyderco has made some changes to the H1 knives over the years. Some known issues that made it SEEM like the knife has rusted:

1)Washer/pivot material rusted and made it look like the blade was rusting
2)Stainless steel clip rusted
3)Steel residue from grinding other blades rusted
4)Trap sand/marine life got on the blade and looked like rust

If you want proof for its rust resistance, there's a bunch of videos on youtube.

>>31818044
auction NOW!

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Just picked 4 of these up at an auction for $12 CAD each.
I am just getting into knifes and know nothing about this company or type of steel used. Is is possible for someone to identify the quality of this?

Happy birthday /ktg/, this is technically the 51st but the last one doesn't count since it was a complete abomination. So happy 50th knifefags!

Today was also my birthday and I finally got a ZT0450. Pics later, they're on my phone which I do not have handy rn. Having issues with malicious ad popups on mobile, only on this board though.

>>31818736
Yup, looks like a standard tacticool cheap chinesium shit knife. Most likely made of some pot steel branded as 440C and marketed as a US MILSPEC tactical survival paracord knife.
Could be wrong though, never know in this world.

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>>31818736
>Is is possible for someone to identify the quality of this?

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>>31818736
It's shit dude. You wasted money, if you wanted a good but cheap knife you should have went Mora, they're one of the very few companies that make quality knives for less than $30.

Condor, Kershaw, Cold Steel (if you need a meme machete), and a few others come to mind for a versatile but cheap knife. The higher you go the better the knife, up to ~$150, then it's just status or appearance. Unless it's a Busse, then it's worth the $500.

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>>31807811
Hey, could you help me identify this knife? Landed in my parent's possession and was wondering if it was worth anything.

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>>31819686
Some extra markings

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>>31819789

>>31819789
What does the other side of the blade look like?
Also let's see the bottom of the grip and the spine of the blade. Could be more watermarks or indications there.

>>31819802
>>31819805
Oh nvm on the other side of the blade part

>>31819805
Both are flat with no markings as far as I can see.

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>>31819686
>>31819789
>>31819802
Looks like a reproduction Confederate bowie, though a cheap one. Similar looking ones from United and BudK go for around $20.

Real Confederate bowies tend to be more short sword sized.

>>31819686
Can tell just by looking at the sheath, handle and lack of any patina that's a repro and probably not worth more than $50

Still nice though, I love bowies

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>>31820142
Well, $50 would be nice... Though considering what we're running here, they'll probably want to sell it closer to what >>31820121 suggests.

Also got this (Very, /very/ fake) replica of a M1860 Percussion revolver. ...Built like it's straight out of Final Fantasy.

This is on topic because it has a knife on it.

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gotta say i do like my shrade schf9, its not the best at stabing but i dont really need a knife that does that, and this knife does everything i need it to just fine.

>pic related but not mine(shitty camera atm)

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>>31818003
I've got an okapi. Get ready to do some serious reprofiling.

And I've always liked the rybicka, the fogarizzu looks cool.

>>31808049
>commenting on the FS or V42
i dont think he has ever mentioned those

>>31808516
Might also check out the Becker BK11. NOT as beefy as what you specified, but insanely resilient and comfortable. If you can find one, check out the Ontario Bolo. Love mine. Would not recommend the RTAK II unless you have huge hands or a way to sand and countour the handle slabs. It's a beast of a knife. Picked mine up on sale for about $80. GREAT knife, thick spine, holds an edge well, but heavy af with a blocky handle.

>>31809498
Any specific sites or forums you recommend? Would love to get a Busse, SRK, Chris Reeve or TOPS, just don't have the cash for full price.

Protip: don't get divorced in Arkansas.

>inb4 protip: don't get married.

>>31816111

Sibert is one of my top 5 knife makers of all time and I absolutely love almost all of his designs.

The benchmade is good quality, but that style of knife is quite cumbersome and clumsy in practice.

I'd much rather have something smaller and thinner like the new Protagonist (an improved Nimravus) or something bigger like those Benchmades with the orange rubber handles.

This style of knife never has a good weight to size ratio. You're not getting much cutting edge for how big and heavy it is, is what I mean.

I plan on getting an Arvensis for the collection, however.

>>31816248

No, lol

>>31819686

Looks like a reproduction

The sheath is cheaply made, and I bet it doesnt cut very well.

As long as you're not asking for value, by all means always go ask to Bladeforums and Knifeforums and you'll get the answers you were looking for 99% of the time when it comes to knife identification

>>31821473

Bladeforums, kifeforums.

You have a fuckton of good online stores there in the US, almost all of them have a sale section.

>>31821473
Bladeforums, Jerzeedevil

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Here is the only one I own. I need to get something I can carry in my pocket.

>>31811751
>cold steel battle ring
>discontinued knife
>picked it up for $60
>put on eBay for auction
>????
>profit
Kys

>>31822414
What you looking for in a folder? Quick to deploy that will cut light things and easy to sharpen? Smooth but solid workhorse? Anything under $100?
For a fast-deploying cheap but quality I recommend a CRKT Ripple 2 Stainless or CRKT Fossil Compact. For smooth but durable workhorse I recommend OKC RAT-2, Spyderco Endura, or Spyderco Paramilitary 2 (although the PM2 will be rather expensive, but has many aftermarket parts and wide range of sprint run steels so it's worth it).

>>31820390
y not tho? he did mention some GIs were using stainless Bowies, noone had a feerbeern sojks fojtin nojf?

>>31807811
My dad bought me a knife for a birthday present. I let it sit around for a while and didn't really think about it; took a look at it recently and realized that I should probably be taking care of this thing or its going to go to shit.
What do I need to have to keep a knife fresh and sharp, and where should I look to buy it (I try to avoid online retailers where I can)?

>>31826142
If it's stainless you don't need to do much other than sharpen it when it's dull and oil it every once in a while if it gets stiff

>>31826196
It's a Fallkniven F1. VG10 steel, according to the marking on the blade, which is stainless iirc.
The only thing I've ever used to sharpen is one of those kitchen honing steels. Is this fine for non-cutlery or do I need a whetstone? Are whetstones memes?

>>31826282
Some arkansas stones or waterstones should sharpen it pretty easily.

>>31818375

Anecdotal evidence goy here. Used an H1 folder for four months of cutting tomatoes and tomato plants, which normally rusts the fuck out of whatever cutting object you use provided you don't clean them meticulously. I didn't clean the Salt for upwards of four weeks. Zero rust or discoloration.

>>31811778
What is this knife? I LOVE IT

>>31811778
You still here bro? What is the exact model in that picture? It's gorgeous in its simplicity

>>31827148
Lon Humphrey is the maker. Looking him up I see something called Rustic Bravo that looks close.

>>31827196
Thanks. It looks pretty close but not an exact match. I just emailed the maker, hopefully he doesn't have a stick up his ass and will help me out

>>31826282
Honing steel will keep an edge alive, but not put a new one on. Hone it till it stops responding to that, then you'd need to resharpen it. Totally fine for upkeep, but doesn't do the same thing as a stone.

>>31827210
That's the problem with custom makers. They may follow a template, but it may not necessarily be the same. Hope you find the exact one you're looking for.

>>31827230
Thanks mate

>>31827268
Oh look it's got a pencil sharpening scoop! How cute. Is this one the "students model"?

>>31827268
>>31827335
Or is that area unsharpened so you can choke up stupid high on the handle ? Because that would be neat.

>>31827349
This looks like a Photoshop gone wrong.

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Just what I have with me in the car

>>31826458
>arkansas stones

I would avoid Arkansas stones for anything except microbevels.

They cut far too slowly and have too much of a tendency to burnish rather than abrade to be a good idea for sharpening, in my opinion.

Modern synthetic oilstones like Norton Indias or Crystolons, waterstones, or diamond plates (like DMTs) are much better choices for full sharpenings.

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Thoughts on the Sanrenmu?

>>31828020
When will the damascus meme end?

>>31828041
Soon I hope

>>31827148
It's a Vanguard. They sell them at dlt trading.

>>31828041
>>31828294
What do you lads have against it?

>>31828622
Probably the fact it costs more even though it's usually Pakistani 1095 or 1084.

>>31827705
Get one, for 8-10$ you won't beat them.

>>31828041

The ride never ends.

>>31828927
Oh, okay, so you meant in frequent low quality use, not necessarily something inherent about the modern adaption of damascus.

>>31828616
thx

>>31813263
This. Ganzos are pretty damned excellent at their price point.

If there is a better 15-18 dollar knife, I haven't seen it yet.

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New EDC and campin blade. Houge makes a solid knife for sure.

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>>31818083
>Only $600

Magical Lithuanian steel folded one mirrion times coming through

>>31828080
The serrations on the back ruin it

>>31829000
Autists won't admit that it isn't actually any better than any other modern tool steel knife (in most cases it's actually worse) and they paid double for something that'll just look cool in a case.

>>31829000
Yeah, it's not always the case but the bulk of modern pattern welded steel comes out of Pakistan consisting of 1095 or 1084 and 15n20 which are fine steels but not worth a premium in terms of performance and not worth much coming out of Pakistan.

>>31829955
>The blade of this knife contains hand forged 3 layer laminate of VG10 steel sides and ZDP189 in the core layer.

>ZDP-189 is super high Carbon steel produced in Japan by Hitachi steel using Powder Metallurgy process. It contains 3% Carbon, 20% chromium, 1.50% Tungsten and 0.10% Vanadiun. This is one of the most recent developments in PM steels. It is extremely high in Carbon and Chromium making it very expensive to manufacture. It is known for its amazing wear resistance and capability to be hardened to 67 HRC.

>After the grinding is done, the knife is heated in a computer controlled oven to precisely 1050°C (1922°F) and then quenched between two aluminium plates and circulated air quench. To reach the 65-67 HRC hardness for the blade it is subzero treated for 2 hours at -80°C (-112°F) in dry ice. This is also called cryogenic hardening or deep cooling. The super cool temperatures transform the steel structure from austenite into martensite. Cryogenic hardening relieves some stress, raises the Rockwell hardness by 1-3 points and refines the internal grain structure of the steel. The knife is then annealed for 2 hours in a tempering oven of 150°C (302°F).

>Nearly $2k
>Doesn't even deep freeze it in a computer-controlled liquid nitrogen bath

Before autists sperg about the "annealed" rather than "tempered" bit - the website's english translations isn't very good.

>>31808524
Got one as a birthday present from my girlfriend
super sharp, insanely hard to open and close but it's probably the most sturdy knife I've owned, even against my benchmade
Only downside is it turns sideways in my pocket when I carry it

>>31828041
>using meme in every possible context

It's a popular steel style.

>>31826142

I use a Fällkniven dc10 stone to freehand and touch up the edge with great success

I also have a lansky sharpener, but I only find it truly good to grind off the shoulder behind edges, not for true sharpening. Its a bit rudimentary.

I'd perhaps look into the spyderco sharpener.

>>31826282

Buy sandpaper and strop it on sandpaper.

It'll work wonders on Fällknivens.

Your knife needs basically 0 maintenance.

>>31829955
>>31830164

It doesn't even surprise me that someone gets away with selling a knife with a bloody recurve at the heel from sloppy grinding and with a steel choice and BY choice only suitable for kitchen knives to clueless knife collecting idiots for $2000.

Why would this surprise me in a world where Chris Reeve can charge $500 a pop to an endless supply of suckers for his grossly under hardened void the warranty by flicking it open nonsense.

>>31830988

Why would you recommend such a grossly inefficient method of sharpening?

The only time I would even consider using sandpaper and edge-trailing strokes to sharpen a knife is if I was putting the sandpaper on a mousepad or something to sharpen a con ex edged knife.

Otherwise a benchstone (oilstone, waterstone, or diamond plate) is going to be much faster and easier to use.

>>31830999

There's a lot of BS around custom knives, more so on self-proclamed "bladesmiths" that sell their knives online.

However that Neeman guy is notorious for selling overpriced shit.

And on top of that he writes his ugly ass name in ugly ass letters everywhere.

All the custom knives I have I buy from makers I personally know.

The knife industry is so extremely overpriced nowadays that a real custom knife can be cheaper than a production one.

You can find good custom knives for as low as 80€ and 120€ is a very good and standard price.

>>31831011

For Fällknivens different grits of sandpaper work wonders, it's not inneficient, and on top of that, it's very, very cheap.

I also recommended the small Fällkniven stone, but if you're at home, what works best for Fällknivens is stropping in sandpaper.

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>>31831012

Very true. I buy from small/custom makers exclusively aside from Spydercos, and you can still find GREAT knives at good prices from small makers.

I regularly shill Calton Cutlery on here as an example of a custom maker who charges very reasonable prices for extremely high performance custom knives (thin grinds, high hardness heat treatments using modern metallurgical knowledge).

>>31831017

I just checked and realized Fallknivens have convex edges, in which case wet/dry sandpaper on a mousepad with edge trailing passes makes sense.

Even then, if you ask people who sharpen convex edges regularly they will tell you that using a benchstone is much faster--even on convex edges--than sandpaper once you learn how to do convex edges on a stone.

The shortest explanation is that you can make scrubbing back and forth passes on a stone which is much faster than one at a time edge trailing passes made on sandpaper. For a beginner, though, sandpaper on a mousepad is much easier to learn.

>>31808511

No

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Knife sharpening?

Where the bitchmade anons at?

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>>31831166

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>>31831174
>>31831166
This fucking iphone.

>>31831186

What waterstones are those?

I'm planning to finish sharpening the edge bevel on my PM2 in M4 this morning.

I finished shaping the edge bevel on a Sigma Power Select II 240x yesterday and today I'm just planning to raise the level of polish on a very muddy King 1000 and then put a microbevel on using a DMT EEF.

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>>31831237
cheap naniwas.

https://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/3-Stone-Naniwa-Traditional-Set-with-6000-Grit-P566C97.aspx

>>31831265

Neat. Nice polish. You may want to be a bit careful with the tip as there appears to be a bit of a change in angle, but that's really common with freehanding.

What do you use to flatten your stones, and how often do you do so? Have you ever tried flattening them before use? The slurry generated can be helpful on stones before the last one.

>>31830553
>It's a popular steel style.
That is literally the definition of meme, read a book nigger.

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>mfw I sharpen every knife I own with grinder and a buffing wheel with abrasive compound on it.

It works and it takes literally 30 seconds, I don't know what to tell you.

Just got my spyderco stretch in the mail. Box was beat to hell, but the knife is amazing. Feels so much better than this non-ergonomic PM2 piece of shit I bought last week.

>>31832963

You use a grinder without active liquid cooling? Enjoy your burned edges, I guess.

>>31833286
>Stretch
>More ergonomic than the PM2

You have really weird hands man. I cannot remotely understand your preferences. I HATE the stretch and much prefer the Endura to it, much less the PM2.

>>31831708
Oh there is my angles aren't prefect but the edge is sufficient for my needs. I flatten em before use every time that way flattenning only takes a few minutes usually.

https://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/Naniwa-Flattening-Stone-P292C97.aspx

>link related

>>31833286
Nice. Love my Stretch as well. Ergonomics out of this world. Better than any of the other Spydercos I handled, better than the Benchmades I handled, and even better than my ZT.
>>31833343
Endura has basically just one curved-inward handle with no palm swell or finger grips or a usable choil. PM2 is thick with a palm swell but so thick you can't fit your whole hand around it. The G10 feels cheaply made as well. I prefer the solid lockup and FRN of my Stretch. Looks like the other anon's not the only one with weird hands.

>>31833408

No worries, I still catch myself changing the angle on the tip and have to correct it occasionally.

I flatten mine before each use as well but I try to leave all the mud created by flattening on the stone because I like several of the side effects of using a stone with lots of mud on it (finer scratch pattern, burr minimization, I like the finish it leaves looks wise as well).

I'll take some pictures to show just how much mud I like on my waterstones.

>>31833343

The stretch just feels way better in the hand. The PM2 is way too boxy. The stretch flairs out at the bottom of the handle and that's what makes the difference from the PM2. If the PM2 had the flair it'd have a whole different feeling.

I held an endura in the store and the handle didn't feel good at all. When I held the stretch I knew it was the spyderco for me.

>>31833419
>>31833461

Okay, maybe I'm the one with the weird hands then. I find the PM2 a perfect fit.

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>>31833451
Youre already more disciplined than me I really just work my blade on the stone till it cuts like I want it too. Being particular about the mud and angle and whatnot takes too much time. I'm still learning though I'm sure I'll get better at it with time.

>>31833334
>Enjoy your burned edges, I guess.
Literally only happens if you're a dumbass, you only need to cool it if you're reprofiling or some shit.

Most of the work is done on the buffing wheel, and it's fast enough that I could do it daily if I wanted.

>>31815662
Fourth from the bottom, right side. Brass looking handle. What is?

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>>31833515
What's up Bali bro

>>31833515
>>31815662
Same as mine, higonokami.
>engage... google.

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>>31833577

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>>31833577
bitchmade morpho.
http://www.benchmade.com/morpho-family.html

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>>31833581

>>31833641
I had a thing for balis but got bored of em. Can't carry here in MI and they are a bit cumbersome to use under duress.

>>31833515
Woah, what karambit is that?

>>31834139

It's a becnhmade safety 8 karambit. For all your safety needs.

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>>31834629

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>>31834629
It's neat. Some rough edges to round off, might polish off the scrollwork and patina it. But it's a cool knife. Backspring is ridiculously solid. Sharpened up in minutes, it's push cutting paper with minimal effort. Slices through cardboard like butter.

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>>31831166
Holla!

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>>31824880
nigger

So HK line of knives is dead effective immediately. Sort of sucks since I was considering getting one. Prices are probably going to go up in a few weeks.

>>31833650
>cumbersome under duress
I... Have to agree. Although I love balis, I wouldn't want to try and use it in a hurry. That's why I carry a regular folder and flip my balis at home. Totally legal in UT though. I could carry a fucking throwing star if I wanted

>>31833551
See >>31833579

>>31833579

Love my Higo no Kami. Nice little thing is "Whups that's a lot of blood." sharp. I want to make one some day.

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My grandfather gave me this recently.

>>31807811
I inherited this bayonet a few years ago. Can anyone name which model it is? i think it's french, but i cant read the engraving. Also, how would I clean this blade and make it shine? steel wool?

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>>31835517
im dumb and forgot the picture.

>>31809453
Randall Made is a meme knife. Not worth the money. They're amazing, sure, but you can get the same or better for less. Look at the Glock Model 78. Excellent fighting knife, you can get it for $35.

Course, if I had the money, I would buy a Randall Made Knife, but just to brag and show off.

>>31834870
Welp rip. Guess I'll be getting an Axis, a single-edge OTF, and that Barrage I wanted today. Rip wallet. Will be worth though

>>31835559
Wouldn't mind getting the HK OTF if I had the funds. Have to save for Christmas.

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Help me out fellow /k/nife anons.
I have this really nice bitchmade but as usual. Their sheaths are shit. Its "molded/injected plastic" or whatever.

>buckle is a bitch to buckle/unuckle
>it came with this "malice" setup?
>malice shits annoying af


Can I heat this sheath up like kydex? or will it just melt in an oven
How can I get another sheath. Buy leather/kydex and start making?

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>>31835693

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>>31835706
>>31835693
http://www.knifekits.com/vcom/product_info.php?cPath=41_589&products_id=6703
This everything I need?

>>31835748

You'll want to make your own press or something out of wood and foam so you can press down the kydex. Ian Atkinson on YouTube has a good video about making a kydex sheath.

>>31812201
prove you're not a faggot

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>>31835777
Looks like I have another /k/ inspired hobby to throw my paychecks at.

>>31820359
I got the schf37 its a grand qood knife tho I got a kabar for stabbity stuff

>>31831022
I wish I had an excuse to buy from some of these smaller custom makers, but I can't carry a fixed blade knife and that's what most of them make.

>>31835832

I've thrown a ton of money at leatherwork and I still don't have much. I make my own sheaths. Going to make another tonight for my pocket.

>>31833343
I prefer the Stretch ergo's to the Endura too, I actually prefer the CaraCara over the Endura also.

>>31833419
You know the PM2 lock is significantly stronger than the Stretch's backlock right?

>>31836039
I leaning toward kydex. I think I can get my first sheath made for $130 US pesos.

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>>31835973
Looks good Sharps! Found this Halloween Sebenza that I'm literally cumming over.

Want/10
Can't get/10

bladeforums /forums/showthread.php/1442045-Halloween-Sebenza

>>31833515

To be honest, I'm just picky. I could sharpen a fair bit faster than I do now if I was less picky about angle consistency and the aesthetics of the finish, but 1-2 waterstones and a DMT to microbevel don't take that long anyway, thankfully.

At least I don't do free hand mirrored edges anymore. Now THAT was time consuming.

>>31833549
>make sparks

Whoops, burned the edge

>blade gets warm to the touch

Whoops, burned the edge

>buffing wheel

I don't know how someone can like the edges produced by those things, honestly.

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>>31834661

Use a thin knife like that for a while and you might start looking at 3mm spines as "hard use" knives...

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>>31836501

It's A lot thicker spine than I expected actually, but with a wonderful grind that allows it to slice very well.

>>31836713

Huh, wasn't expecting that. Still puts any modern production folder to shame for thinness though.

>>31836713
sharps what do you use to sharpen your knives?

i can get my knives to a mirror edge but not necessary push cutting paper
slicing easily,

is there something im missing?

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>>31836779
Handle is the same as a Mercator, blades a tad thicker.


>>31836883
This one I sharpened with a four dollar wal mart combination stone. Rough side, then fine side. Didn't even do any edge trailing strokes, high carbon just loves rough finishes done with very light pressure.

>>31836982
i guess i just nee to take my time and keep sharpening
20 degrees a side
i still get my knives ridiculously sharp compared to anything ive seen anyone else do ( in person)
but i cant quite get the perfect push cut , reliably at least

>>31836982
>>31837029
actually just tested a few of my knives they can push cut but i cant easily start the push cut

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>>31836883
Consult the sharpening wizard about in depth techniques, his YouTube channel is steel drake.

You should be able to get a very sharp aggressive edge without a polished bevel with minimal effort on a coarse stone. Before you move from a coarse stone to anything finer your knife should already be slicing through paper easily. If you're progressing to a different stone before this point then you are skipping ahead too early. This is something I've found from my own experience, other people can confirm or argue this.

Here's a video of the douk

https://sendvid.com/zlsopg0i

>>31837083
So, polished bevels push cut easily but don't have a ton of slicing aggression so they don't initiate cuts well. The sharpening guru mentions this idea of a balance between push cutting ability and slicing aggression often, and I never really understood what he meant until about a week ago when I put my first really polished edge on my knife. Suddenly it would shave hair, but it was a bitch to cut dinner with.

>>31837105
i honestly dont want all of my knives sharper than they already are,
im almost afraid to hand them to people to use because people dont expect sharp knives, for some reason

i sharpened my coworkers knife and they IMMEDIATLEY tested it and cut themself ( as i was warning them its sharp )
ive slipped once and cut my middle finger nearly to the bone,

i know a sharp knife is safer than a dull one , but only if you know the knife is sharp

i will watch some videos and try a few different edges toothy vs polished etc etc

thanks for the tips
il touch up a few of my knives tomorrow after work since 2 weeks without sharpening some of them are starting to dull a bit

>>31837199
Ya, I've reached the point where I like where all mine are at, just touch them up lightly often.

The Mercator has been my favorite so far for slicing. It's like carrying a giant razor blade. Gets sharp, stays sharp and the action is lovely.

If I hand someone a knife I usually just give them the pioneer, most people can figure out a slip joint. If they can't I usually just cut whatever it was for them.

Every time my girlfriend asks me to use one though I give her a different one, she's getting proficient with all the basic lock types pretty quickly.

>>31837341
i cant afford to touch mine up too often, and since i use my knives sometimes 50 plus times a day( ie recenty found that foam board insuation dulls a knife pretty surprisingly quickly) an even s30v wears out quickly at that rate


also handed a coworker a knife the other day to find them stab it into a wooden board and pry sideways to see if the wood was rotten,
very glad it was my 940 with the thick tip and not something like my pm2

post your knife collection?

>>31837566
Yeah styrofoam type things are surprisingly abrasive

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>>31837566
Haven't got a family shot, headed to bed. Here's what's on my nightstand right now

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>>31833515

As promised, here's a pic of how muddy I use my King 1000.

Used that muddy, you can go straight from a King 1000 edge bevel to a DMT EEF or Spyderco M ceramic microbevel.

>>31836883

You should be able to push cut newsprint with the grain off of something as coarse as a Norton India F (~320 grit), but to do crossgrain push cuts normally takes a 4000+ grit apex.

If you are still new to sharpening freehand, I recommend you search YouTube for my "a tutorial on burr based sharpening" and practice that approach until you can get consistent results.

>>31837134

Basically, if you zoom in on a knife apex with a high powered optical microscope, you will see teeth like a saw blade. Slicing aggression is produced by bigger teeth, push cutting sharpness by smaller teeth.

So whichever grit you choose is a trade-off between these two properties and should be made based on what you use your knife for and how often you touch it up (smaller teeth wear down faster in slicing work and thus finer grit edges need to be touched up more frequently).

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>>31838399
>serrations

Recently found out how much of a bitch it is to sharpen a recurve blade. It's a custom made and looking at it I realized the geometry of the blade was pretty fucked. Looks wonderful overall, but not entirely functional. Going to work on reprofiling it tomorrow using pocket DMT stones.

>>31838801
https://youtu.be/FjC9hldavyQ

One of my spyderco boxes is not like the other. Not really sure how to test it. Cut a bunch of cardboard and it still cuts paper with ease so I'm gonna assume it's real.

>>31839981
Post pics.

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>>31839985

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>>31840049

I bought the paramilitary 2 on Amazon.

I want to get a small larger and normal sized spyderco knives. I'm thinking ladybug 3, Delica4, and Endura4.

Are all of these goods? might end up getting a paramilitary at some point too.

>>31840062
My Centofante reads like the Stretch, your Stretch is Jap yeah? and my Manix reads like your PM2 which is also a Colorado knife.

>>31840081

The stretch is jap, yes. Sounds like I'm just being paranoid. The knife seems to be the real thing after looking at videos and photos online. Just weird because it's a different hue of red and there's no gradient on the corner, just turns to black.

>>31807811
Knives aren't deadly anymore

>>31840064

ladybug is pretty fucking small. Just get a byrd for a smaller knife. I didn't like how the delica or the endura felt in my hands. Try going to a knife store and trying them out in person if you're close to one.

>>31840093
Well desu both of mine here have the gradient, the Manix is darker but it's still there.

>>31840064
Replace either the Delica or Endura with a Centofante, probably the Endura IMO, unless you need something that long.

>>31811913
>8cr13MOV

Ahahahahahahahah

HAHAHAHA

>>31839882
Not my issue. The maker sharpened the blade unevenly. Tip was above 25 degrees while the rest of the blade was between 20 and 25. I'm trying to bring it to an even 20.

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>>31807811
WASP injection knife.

>>31840049
>>31840062
How does the foam inside the box fit?
Is it tight or loose?

Normally the knockoffs have very tight fitting foam while originals have loose fitting foam

>>31817617
10/10 would put my knife in

>>31840125
Is there some guide for them somewhere that isn't just a pdf catalog? There's so many to pick from

>>31841075
No, and I imagine for that exact reason. Too many different models. I didn't know Spyderco even has fixed blades until I went to Smokey Mountain Knife Works.

>>31840168

For the record, 8cr13mov can be made to work really well as a blade steel if it is heat treated properly and QCd properly.

The problem.is that very few makers getting knives made in China spend the money to QC them properly.

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>>31813173

Check out the Ontario Knife "Bushcraft Woodsman". Picture related, actual size. 1/4" blade width.

> Eh Dan Maragni pretty cool guy. Does his research, knows his shit, and doesn't afraid of designing a good knife even if corporate wants to cheapen every aspect.

>>31840781

The foam on the tenacious is tight, but they're all the same type of foam, the denser, darker stuff you see in the real boxes on videos.

>>31842404
Tight tight?
I haven't bought a spyderco with tight fitting foam

>>31843313

Kinda tight.

Also, my stretch has a really uneven grind on one side of the blade. Kind of annoying.

>>31843827
My endura had mismatched grinds, different angles on either side when I got it. I paid a lot less for it than it usually goes for though so I think they might have just sold a batch of seconds for cheap on Amazon.

>>31840168
What a fucking retard.

The 14460 pictured uses 154cm

>>31841336
Know any off the top of your head that do?

>>31844277

Spyderco does real QC on their China made knives.

In a blind comparison most people would not be able to reliably tell the difference between Spyderco's 8cr13mov and their VG-10, much less between their 8cr13mov and CTS-BD1.

>>31844319
True. Sogs Aus8 is also fantastic.

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>>31844319
Truth be told, I was actually afraid to look at Spyderco's china models. If you're not looking to get a cheap knife, avoid China. Or so that was my approach.

I'm looking for a benchmade that has a hidden pressure release. I know it's not the LFK. In fact I don't think it's in production yet. Anyone know?

Recommended kitchen knife sets up to or below $150? Looking for long lasting, bang-for-your-buck stuff with blades of all different lengths and uses (serrated and plain)

>>31844345

Normally I would agree with you.

The key thing to understand, though, is that you can make a decent knife out of almost any cutlery steel, it's actually the heat treatment, quality of factory grinding, and QC that are usually the cause of cheap knives being complete shit rather than the steel.

As far as I know, Spyderco may be the only production folder maker that actually QCs their Chinese produced models properly.

Even then, you can still get new Chinese made Spydercos or Byrds that have burned factory edges because they are applied using belt grinders without any cooling at the factory. It can be several sharpenings before the real performance of the steel shows itself on those models.

>>31844606
At that price point it literally doesn't matter, it's all going to be chink shit.

>>31844606

Unless you have very specific needs, you would generally be better off with a good chef's knife of 8"-10", a ~3" pairing knife and a cheap serrated bread knife than any sort of set.

Which brands to consider and what your budget should be depends more on whether you know how to sharpen and touch-up knives.

>>31844606
Don't buy a set. Just buy a decent chef's knife or gyuto (recommend Tojiro, Fujiwara, Kikuichi of 240mm length). 90% of kitchen tasks are covered. Supplement with other specialized knives as you require them.

Invest in a good end grain board/butcher block (this matters a lot). Invest in sharpening stones. Kitchen knives see more use and benefit more from maintaining scary sharpness levels.