Battle Rifle General /brg/

>>31800008
Damn shame nobody here but Boof will ever touch either one...

>>31800025
$3k, not that expensive

>>31800008
...and it'll probably cost 2x what a SCAR goes for so nobody will buy it anyway.

There is a hot market for a 600-1.5k battle rifle, and it is tough to design and build something to fit that price range but it can be done.

>>31800050
3k isn't that bad but it puts it in direct competition with the SCAR and LMT .308s, and it is significantly costlier than DSA FALs and forged M14geries.

That is a price bracket where they will only get a few sales unless the gun really stands out head and shoulders above the rest and has some cowadoodee "specops totes uses this shit" provenance to sell it.

>>31800083
Does Switzerland have speshulforces?

>>31800008
Reminder that the SCAR isn't actually a battle rifle. :(

>>31800170
To the extent that they use battle rifles they'd probably be using the older SIG 510s, even if they do use this particular design they probably wouldn't see much action.

The SCAR sells in part because it's genuinely a very good rifle, in part because it's expensive and moneybags love to show off and in part because some genuinely scary operators operated with them operationally in operations inna sandbox. That means that for the money spent you not only have a nice rifle, but you get to impress random strangers on the range and if you close your eyes you too can imagine yourself as being some kind of special forces badass fucking up ISIS.

Are you? Probably not.
Is it stupid? Kinda.
Does it factor in as a reason why people buy these kinds of guns? You bet it does.

It's not really a bad thing. People collect milsurp for the same reason. But it means that this particular rifle lacks a selling point that other rifles like it already have. When that much money is being spent, it becomes a real tie-breaker. I think it can compete and win a lot of sales at a lower price point, but at 3k forget it.

>>31800311
>Select fire models exist
>Infantry rifle
>Box mag fed
>Full power cartridge
Buttmad much garandfag?

>>31800378
I bought one because I drink deeply from the FN rifle kool-aid. Handguns not as much (I do own an FNX45 though).

>>31800378

As an M14 owner, he is amazingly self aware.

I hope the barrel will be black in production models
Also the mags better not be some proprietary bullshit

But I'm not gonna buy one anyway so what do I care?

>>31800602
SR25 pattern

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As a moron with some extra money and not enough sense to keep himself from having to buy another new caliber of ammunition... Is there any reason to not order up a DSA SA58 OSW? It really makes my operator-peen hard, but is 7.62x51 out of a 13" barrel really dumb?

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>>31800008
Alexandria pro fab 18" upper and lower. Going to change out the stock first and put my swfa 6x42 scope on it.

>>31800642
No not really

>>31800008
>fixed-length folding stock
Doesn't seem like a good idea TßH.

>>31800642
There is a reason you can get a SCAR barrel in 13" lengths, it's not as silly as you .might think

>>31800739
It's not awful, but only useful if your jumping or have storage requirements.
Begs for telescoping though

I want to get an AR10 platform, I eyeing two used one one is by DPMS 20" and the other is by Alexandria pro fab 18", the APF is higher priced at $50 bucks more and the DPMS has more accessories such as glass, plastic case, extra mag. Which one do you suggest I should get?

>>31800663
How accurate is it?

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>>31800800
What I mean is, in an age where folding AND adjustable LOP is a thing, it seems a bit dated.

>>31800555
Which military has it as standard issue?

>>31800822
Teutonic industry doesn't really innovate much anymore. They are very much old world.

>>31800833
Standard issue is not part of the criteria, but thanks for playing

>>31800893
Yeah it is, otherwise there's no difference between DMRs, battle rifles, etc. See: >>31791430

>>31800808
Shooting it tomorrow. Literally just put it together last night. Supposedly it's 1-1.5 moa from what I read online.

>>31800822
Whats just forward of the scope turrets?

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>>31800938
Again, no.
The SCAR is a lightweight rifle, a DMR is an accurized rifle designed for precision use. You may want to reference the mk20 for what a SCAR based DMR would be

>>31800642
as far as i know .308 velocity loss from shorter barrels is negligible or at least far less compared to the velocity you lose with 5.56 when you get a shorter barrel. so nah, not dumb

>>31801117
175gr .308 from a 16" barrel at 100 yards is the same as a 13" bbl from the muzzle.

>>31801019
Weight isn't a defining feature of battle rifles. Sorry the SCAR just isn't one unless it was standard issue for a military.

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My new Para feels sexy af.

>>31801196
Why is "standard issue" so important?

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>>31801196
And neither is general issue.
The SCAR in .308 none the less counts, sorry it's better than your Raifu anon. Have this picture of a fox as a consolation prize

>>31801317
See: >>31800938

>>31801328
Sorry your rifle doesn't actually belong here. :( I don't have a consolation prize for you since you can't even participate.

>>31801328
Subtle.

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>>31801317
It really isn't all that important, but that's the general definition that's been used in this thread to help sort things out since there really isn't a set definition of battle rifle. That guy is just being overall autistic about it.

>>31801328
My hound likes that fox. :^)

>>31800938
>otherwise there's no difference between DMRs, battle rifles

That's because there is no difference. "Battle Rifle" describes the characteristics of a particular firearm. "Designated Marksman Rifle" describes the role in which that particular firearm is used.

Any battle rifle can be a "DMR" when it's used by a designated marksman. Just the same as any Remington 700 can be a "sniper rifle" if it's being employed by an actual sniper.

TL;DR: Your shit's all fucked up and you're retarded. The SCAR-H is a battle rifle, deal with it faggot.

>>31801353
So then what is the kel tec RFB classified as?

>>31801400
>"Battle Rifle" describes the characteristics of a particular firearm.
One of the characteristics is being general issue.

>Any battle rifle can be a "DMR" when it's used by a designated marksman.
But a DMR isn't a battle rifle unless it was general issue. Think of it like all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares.

>>31801408
Trash.

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>>31801431
>One of the characteristics is being general issue.

Except it's literally not.

No where is "general issue" found in any definition of term "battle rifle" other than the inane bullshit criteria you've made up in your head.

And for what it's worth, you can't even define "general issue" because guess what, the Mk17 is generally issued to SOCOM. Perhaps you need to further refine your asinine terminology.

>>31800642
muzzle blast will be the main drawback there

>>31801353
listen autismo, i'm sorry you can't afford anything but a garand but that doesn't mean you get to play with the definition of battle rifle until you're the only person who owns one

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What do you guys think about the CMMG Anvil?
I think I would love it if it wasn't $1.50/round for the cheap stuff

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>>31801484
11th and 12th words there friend. You even clicked on the link. I think you're the one being asinine now if you really are pretending to not know the meaning of general issue. The FAL, G3, M14, AR10, SG510, etc were all used as the general issue service rifle for a military at some point. The SCAR wasn't.

Also: >using wikipedia as a source

>>31801580
This definition has been pretty well established in these threads for a while. Even sakuya agreed with it. Sorry that you're so new that you don't realize that.

>>31801613
>the SCAR isn't a service rifle
>is literally issued by the US Military

You are so far up your own ass I don't even know why I'm responding to this drivel.

>>31801660
Sure it's issued, but it's not standard.

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>>31801725

It's LITERALLY listed right on the Service Rifle page you screen capped you fucking autist.

>>31801802
That's the only county where it lists what the special forces use and not just the standard issue rifle for the military as a whole. It takes a real autist to edit wikipedia to try and win an argument.

>>31801830

SOCOM is the size of most other countries entire militaries. The SCAR is standard issue for them. It's a service rifle.

You can keep going on trying to further make exception to every accepted definition of the term and get BTFO every time as you have repeatedly. Or you can just accept the fact that your autistic as fuck and nobody gives a shit about your special snowflake dictionary.

>>31801947
>SOCOM is the size of most other countries entire militaries
You're the one moving goal posts here friend. I'm just sticking to the threads established definition, I'm sorry your favorite rifle doesn't match up with it. It's a great rifle, just not a battle rifle.

>>31800572
I like the M14 for the same reason I like the Mini-14. I dig the action, it feels comfortable, it works well and is pleasant to shoot.
They aren't the best at anything, but they are pretty good and I think people should buy a decent gun they like rather than an "objectively better" gun they don't like as much.
>>31800642
It's a little silly, but offset by the sheer cool factor. But why not get a 16" and save yourself some headache?
>>31801802
>>31801830
>>31801725
Look, we can argue about this whole "service rifle" aspect, but it's not a great definition because it's non-technical.

For our purposes we're talking semi-automatic or select-fire rifles in a full-power caliber. Both of those properties are quantifiable and technical. Military service can be vague and as the person asking about the RFB pointed out, this definition can leave out a rifle that could function as a BR but misses the qualification due to not being used as one. It quacks like a duck, so why not call it one?

Also, if we wanted to be really autistic then the DSA FALs, PTR-91s and M1As that most people own and discuss in BRG don't count either. They are derived from military designs and may indeed use some surplus parts in their construction, but since they aren't built to their original military specifications they are not military service rifles either. They are sporting rifles built off a military design.

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>>31801978
>if you use the third synonym of this cherrie picked definition you'll rabbit hole into criteria fitting my personal bias

How many wiki pages do you think I can get away with editing?

>>31802045
Nigga, I never denied that SOCOM or whatever other special forces you want to mention used it. I denied that it's a standard issue weapon for any military, which is true.

>>31802064
So what you're saying is, that if I bought a commercial spec SCAR-H, it would be a [insert whatever here].

Then if the next week Greece decided to replace their G3s with SCAR-H rifles that are select-fire, my civilian SCAR-H would magically become a battle rifle.

Is this correct by your logic?

>>31802088
Yes, because then it would be standard issue for a military.

>>31802088
>>31802101
Let me clarify, it would be a civilian version of a battle rifle. Which would be good enough for this thread.

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>>31801223
Sexy beast; quality contribution. Bravo, Anon.

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>>31800008
Looks like a fuglier scar

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>>31802552
When did you put the slim handguard back on?

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>>31802607
I was experiencing some safe congestion. I've been meaning to take both to the range and check for any actual shift in POI between the two.

>>31802101
By your constraints, M14s, M1s, G3s and FALs would no longer be battle rifles as they are no longer standard issue

>>31802754
So stop shitting up the thread with semantic nonsense

>>31802754
They were at some point though and in some place still are.

>>31802666
That looks really tasty, what is that?

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>>31802088
>>31802101

Enjoy. You guys brought this new level of pedantry on yourselves. It's almost like it's a stronger form than the intermediate pedantry we see in other threads. A full-power pedantry, if you will.

>>31802754
M1s have never been battle rifles though

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>>31802880
Family guy much anon?

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>>31802878
Caramel-apple turnovers.

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>>31802880
>7.62 millimeter, full metal autism

Can someone explain to me who made FAL handguards and their commonalities? Or at least direct me to a good guide. I just bought a black poly set from someone who says they're Rhodesian, but they're also bipod cut. I've never seen bipod cut polymer handguards before

>>31800008
I feel like the DTI is the Half-Life 3 of guns.

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>>31802917
Recipe plox

What's a reasonable pricepoint for a bipod?

>>31803369
>10rd clipazine

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>>31803369
This much: http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/HK-BIPOD-2p1.htm

>>31803369
$219 and up
There really isnt a valid reason to get anything asides from Atlas

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I just got the bipod in last week. haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but so far it's been pretty stable. pretty impressed. kinda wish I knew what country it came from though. got it off of RTG.

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>>31803369
>Recipe plox
This is the recipe I use for pastry/pie crusts:
http://www.simplyscratch.com/2010/11/how-to-a-perfect-pie-crust.html
But I substituted cold sour cream rather than cold water to see how it would taste (damn good as it turns out). Also, if you like your turnovers poofy (I don't but YMMV) add 1/2tsp of baking soda to the flour before you fold in the butter. Then you form it into balls about 2" in diameter and then roll them out.

The filling is easy; just peel and slice up some fresh apples and cut them into small chunks, pile them on one half of the rolled-out dough, sprinkle some sugar and spice on them (typical apple spice mix is like 1Tbsp Cinnamon, 1tsp nutmeg, 1tsp allspice, 1/2tsp clove, 1/4tsp cardamom; make it in an empty shaker and keep handy). Then you fold the empty half over the full half and roll the bottom edge over the top edge and crimp it together. Bake on a grease or parchment-covered baking sheet at 375°F for 20-30mins or until golden on top. Remove and allow to cool.

For the caramel, I use this easy wet method, substituting milk and a little more butter for the heavy cream.
http://www.completelydelicious.com/2014/10/how-to-make-caramel-two-ways.html
Once the caramel is finished and starting to cool and thicken, pour it onto the cooled turnovers, then throw the turnovers in the fridge or freezer to make the caramel set fast.

>What's a reasonable pricepoint for a bipod?
This >>31803448
>http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/HK-BIPOD-2p1.htm

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>>31804067
Thanks bro

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MAKE /brg/ GREAT AGAIN

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>>31804067
Neat.

>>31805325
D60 plz

Also, something I noticed is that after switching in the south african stock, the recoil on my PTR feels a lot lighter. I'm not sure if it's the recoil spring or rubber pad but it's like a night and day difference.

>>31800822
Damn, forgot what LOP is - it's on the tip of my tongue, but can't remember. Remind, please?

Buying a VEPR rifle. Last gun before Cali goes nuclear. Should I get 16", 20" or 23" barrels?

>>31805905
16

>>31805905
Don't fund Russians, they're evil faggots.

Having said that, I must admit that the Vepr is a fun rifle to shoot, with a surprisingly nice trigger. Too bad I bought it in 7.62x54R when it was dirt cheap, and now the price has skyrocketed and availability has gone to shit.

>>31805931
>Don't fund Russians, they're evil faggots.

Thank you for Correcting The Record.

>>31805886
Length of pull.

>>31805948
2 rubles have been deposited in your state account Ivan

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>>31805968
2 cents have been deposited into your account, Nerd Virgin.

just bought a ptr 91. what kinda scope should i put on it?

>>31805981
post your battle rifle Ivan

>>31800025

Who is boof? The one "informational "post of his I ever caught was rife with misinformation but everyone was sucking his cock like he mattered.

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>>31806307

>>31806328
>tripfag cheering section

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>>31806293
Where's yours Nerd Virgin?

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>>31806563
mine doesn't smell like vodka and rotten caviar

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>>31806574
>mine has cast parts

>>31806588
great meme bro

>>31800008
Which is best, the Type I, II, or III FAL receiver?

>>31806684
I & II for rhodiebros

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>>31806696
this

If i were to buy a battle rifle in 7.62 x 51 mm, which should it be? Not more than 2000-2500$

>Inb4 SCAR
It's ugly as fucking shit never gonna buy that shit.

>>31807010
FAL.

AR-10 isn't standardized.
M14 isn't as sexy.
PTR 91 chews up brass.
AR-16 doesn't exist :(

>>31807032
Yeah i've leaned pretty much to the FAL. I'll take that one

thinking about picking up a battle rifle soon, I really love the SCAR but I also like the ECC, which one would you guys recommend? I feel like I would have more fun with the SCAR but I feel like the sr-25 would be a bit better because I am a big ar fan

>>31801196
A battle rifle is any semi auto, magazine fed, full sized caliber rifle

Fuck off with your elitism

I sick and tired of seeing the same three damn rifles (PTR 91F, M1A, FAL) every thread, let's have some inclusiveness here.

>>31807032

M14-EBR is pretty fucking sexy imo.

>>31807353
>>31807032
So which is it, M-14 EBR vs. FN Fal?

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>>31807566

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>>31807032
.308 ARs not being standardized isnt a problem. It just means if you want to modify the rifle you need to check first. But humans are lazy as fuck.

FAL is probably the best answer, but the correct answer today is anything you can that doesn't suck, and your not getting raped on price.

You can find some deals, but you need to quick. Stay alert for when things come in stock, order immediately.

Picture unrelated.

>>31807010
Cuz its out of your budget lol

Want an FAL chambered in .260 Remington, wat do?

>>31808237
Get a barrel made.
I have an FAL barrel in .358 Winchester

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Trying to decide which camo top to get. I'm going to be in a lot of brush and woods.

Any suggestions?
1/4

>>31808690
Wups. Wrong thread.

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>>31807769

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Why is 5.56 a poodle shooter when .308 can't even penetrate AR500

>>31809978
Your using the wrong ammo.

>>31810021
Both are wolf

>>31810026
And?
Still the wrong ammo.

>>31810026
That doesn't mean it's steel core or using a tungsten penetrator you fuck.

>>31810120
When did I ever imply that
Both are fmj

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>>31800822
B&t has multiple stock options for their other rifles and the stocks are interchangeable
>pdw
>folding
>folding adjustable

>>31810135
Your being intentionally retarded and vauge

>>31810393
Why can't wolf .308 fmj penetrate AR500 when wolf 5.56 fmj can?

>>31810500
Sanics

>>31810504
Correct

>>31810500
Because wolf ammo is shit?
Russians can't build good bullets?

>>31810562
They are both shit bullets though anon

>>31810592
So why are you shooting them?

>>31810649
Shit bullets will kill steel and you as well as nice ones. Don't change the subject.

>>31806588
Stop the ruckus, faggots, every one of those is a nice weapon and kills just as reliably as the other.

Though Soviet manufacturing always sucked, for different reasons at different times - sometimes it's because they've killed their specialists after the revolution or they defected, sometimes it's because mass production volume made individual defects inevitable and tolerable, sometimes it's because mass corruption made it possible to pass QA. Right now you're overpaying for Russian made stuff because of all those sanctions, and the only reason their stuff still sells is because it's considered a novelty.

>>31810667
How does whether or not a shitty bullet will penetrate shitty steel have to do with what's a battle rifle or not?

>>31810698
Again you have drawn a fallacious conclusion

5.56 strong.

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>>31800008
For someone new to Battle rifles in general what would you recommend.

All I know about them is FAL, Scar, and Garand anybody give me some advice willing to spend between $1,500-$2,000 if your gonna recommend me one to own. Any advice or more options would be nice to know. Also are there any Russian Battle rifles??? Just curious.

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>>31810758
5.56 is fine for HD purposes.
Why limit yourself? I dont

>>31810791
.308 and 7.62x54R ak derivatives exist, chiefly Veprs.

>>31810135
Stop playing COD. That's not what FMJ means.

62gr 5.56 typically has a steel or tungsten piece inside. Depending on who you talk to, it's either for "going green by eliminating the amount of lead in the bullet" or its for penetrating armor. I'm not going to get into that as it's a sketchy topic and BATFE as well as anti-gunners monitor /k/.

7.62x51 typically does not(surplus anyways, cheaper steel cased ammo kinda does though). There are some by-metal rounds in use, but it's a softer, mild steel core. Won't really go through shit. This is done for reduction of the use of lead. Pure and simple. Lowers cost per round. Perfect example is surplus nugget food. It has a steel core, but won't penetrate a Ford 302 flywheel where a 62gr will go through like it's nothing.

55gr 5.56 differs though in that it's a fast fucking round. 3000+ fps. It's using speed to achieve metal penetration.

>>31810803
Sorry chieif, M193. Lead core. Copper jacket.

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>>31810791
I'd recommend you wait till January before buying, election panic, end of year taxable inventory, and holiday buying will have burned out, resellers and restocking will be in full force, which means lower prices and more options. Also SHOT releases sometimes occur and you might find something you like.

>>31810816
M193 is 55gr. Guess I should have been more specific. But I thought people would be able to tell the difference. Lesson learned. I guess I need to go back to talking barney style.

>>31811601
Or take that shit to a different thread

>>31800977
Probably a leveling bubble, but that seems excessive on that thing

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Are there any decent, non-$100 KAC pattern metal magazines for sale?

>>31807878
>9 mm
>safety always off

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Muh first battle rifle.

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>>31808322
fuck off you've been saying you are going to build it for the past 2 years.

>>31812619
Eww lol

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>>31812629
I got it nine months ago, and have been looking for an LMT receiver

>>31810690
Back for round two, Cast M1A fag?

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>>31812619
>SC
Should have got MAGA edition lol.

>>31812793
But I actually live in SC. Not a fan of the barrel but it was there, I had money so it happened.

>>31812458
http://www.brownells.com/magazines/rifle-magazines/magazines/ar-20-round-308-magazine-prod71942.aspx

>>31813097
Or if you want stainless
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2228349966/ar-stoner-magazine-lr-308-gii-sr-25-ruger-precision-rifle-308-winchester-20-round-with-anti-tilt-follower-stainless-steel?cm_vc=ProductFinding

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>>31810797
>using 5.56 mini manlet
>not using .458 win mag or .45 raptor to blow Jamal T. DinduNuffin's torso apart

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>>31813281
.45 raptor is just a long .460 SW
.458 win mag has too much penetration in drywall.
.375 raptor might be where its at, if it feeds from mags well

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>mfw

>>31815872
Right color and everything

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>>31816107

>>31816177
>That new mag smell
If only there was an AR10 lower that took SCAR mags.

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>>31816177
Awwwww yiss

>tfw I found a bunch of M80 7.62 at Walmart for $7.47/box today

Almost have enough ammo to fill all my G3 mags. Is 21 mags enough or should I shove a few more in my last pre-election Brownells order?

>>31819167
>enough
Can't find it in the dictionary, sorry. What's it mean?

>>31819194
sufficient, plenty

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>>31819167
1000 rounds on hand is considered pretty minimal.

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>>31801317
its issued fags are mad because garands arent battle rifles and they are too poor to afford more than the 800 cmp junk

>>31802754
man you guys are autistic lol post ur fucking guns poorfags

>>31803369
the amount of poverty in that picture is astounding

>>31805325
man d60 makes a cute girl id make him my gf and he could swedish cuck camo my scar

>>31806563
so this si why you are hurt lol its not a battle rifle n1 though

>>31806574
nice lug and battle rifle

>>31807010
2poor

>>31807165
fal or bust

>>31807566
buy the FAL i have a picture related to this

picture related

>>31809978
funny ar15s cant shoot though a standard guardrail which is a confirmed fact

>>31810500
>wolf
being this poor

>>31811629
its real nato its relevant

>>31812619
its uggo in its own unique way i like it except for the rail

>>31815872
they are really nicely packaged magazines

>>31819167
better hurry up and spend now or pay 10$ later just hold off on all that other dumb shit you were thinking about

>>31820635
Why no paint on bayonet?

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>>31820677
i ran out after i painted like 10 different things

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>>31820720
Pumpkin spice....

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>>31820739
im wet

Gonna paint up some glock baseplates orange too.

>Might need a tiffany blue AR for easter
Next years problem

>>31800170
Yes. The KSK, commando special forces, contain grenadiers, parachute spotters but especially the AAD10.

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Does anyone have any recommendations for chest rigs?

Pic related is arriving at my LGS soon and I want something that will be able to fit the mags. I know of a couple options, but I was wondering what /brg/ thought.

>>31820793
Esstac, SKD pig, or Haley

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>>31820793
Chinese Type-63.

>>31821177
Why go cheap

>>31820757
If I was your BF I would make you pumpkin spiced treats and when you got wet I would be like a dry desert soaking up rain.

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>>31820793
>>31820993
>>31821177
the trick with m14 mags is the fucking lug likes to be a bitch and catch on shit like the SA rig doesnt work well with them

>>31821230
wew :3

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>>31821230
>Professes his love
>Doesn't post pictures of baked goods or lewd shots of legs and feet
You need more than words sometimes

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>>31821274
Did you actually upgrade your optics?

>>31821230
>>31821289
As much as I love sa/k/uya, He's not a bottom qt

>>31801117
My understanding is that anything shorter than 18 inches is where you start to really see a drop off, it's why i didn't pick up a SOCOM 16, as opposed to the scout 18.5

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>>31821303
no, someone sent me a bunch of german fal mags in a trade and as joke a fake acog so i put it on there

>>31821289
this

>>31821309
wew lad

>>31821319
except the scar

>>31821319
Fuddlore.
http://rifleshooter.com/2014/12/308-winchester-7-62x51mm-nato-barrel-length-versus-velocity-28-to-16-5/

This is a public service announcement thanking all the tripfags and most of their circlejerk for staying in their containment threads.

That is all.

>>31821341
Post rare lewd sa/k/uya to prove me wrong faggot

>>31821341
>>31821289
I'm at work senpais. I promise I'll post pics when I get home ;3

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Form 3 came in to my dealer
Get to pay $200 for babbies first cuckstamp today.
Just have to wait 9 months or so for it to get out of jail.
>Already thinking of SBRing some rifles

>>31821319
>>31821342
Still though, with a 15 grain bullet, you get 300-ish less foot pounds of energy at the muzzle with a 16.5 barrel vs a 22in barrel. That's nothing to disregard

>>31821513
sorry, 150 grain

>>31800008
Nice mrs 4

>>31821513
6" is a lot longer, and for just 150fps more?
For a battle rifle, it's not so useful
For a DMR, yes

>>31821341
I wasn't referring to accuracy, i should have been more specific, i meant muzzle velocity with a .308 round, hell I've gotten excellent groups at 300 meters with sbr's and I'd love to pick up a SCAR, just too broke

>>31802038
>They aren't the best at anything, but they are pretty good at a lot of things
FTFY. To meaningfully exceed the M1A's ability in target shooting, hunting, and combat you'd need 2-3 separate rifles, all but one of which would be manual action. They're actually a pretty good deal if you don't have a lot invested into the AR platform already.

>>31820720
Looks like ass.

>>31820739
>that CAGE code
Wait, what are those mags for?

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Muh first.

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>>31821802
The baseplate should tell you that

>>31821859
Gonna need a better picture, try a better angle, put a magazine in, add an optic

>>31821891
Huh; didn't know D&H made SCAR-17 mags.

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>>31822068
Who?
These came in FN boxes. Donno if FN outsources

>>31822139
04TQ4 is D&H Industries of Oconomowoc WI.

>>31822139

Belgian mags don't have date codes on them. The followers are slightly different as well.

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LGS has an M1-D for 3K. It is obviously a new stock set, I believe a new barrel and a repro scope. Don't know enough about M1's to tell you the rest and store doesn't allow pics unfortunately.
> Should I just jump on it and screw the consequences?

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>>31822159
Oh, sure, name sounded familiar, they make AR mags right?

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>>31807353
> M14-EBR is pretty fucking sexy imo.

Can someone tell me or link me to something that can tell me what my options for a fal are? i just want a regular rifle that is reliable and can take aftermarket/surplus parts without too much hassle and if it has a folding stock that would be great as well.

>>31822704
DSarms.com

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>>31822721
Thanks man.

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>>31822000
Dub trips is the boss
Dont have any glass for it just yet. What should i get?

>>31823028
>Anderson put faux KACesque cuts in relief

Budget build, calls for a PA scope, or be reverse ironic and a Schmidt and Bender

>>31812788
That wasn't me, but fyi my cast M1A will still be working when your bolt guide rails crack and fall off

>>31823381
Your trigger will break long before that

>>31823459
Good thing my trigger, unlike his, can be pulled out and replaced with my fingers

>>31823323
You wanna say that first part in english?

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>>31823606
Picture is worth a thousand words

>>31823841

Lol that is so tryhard.

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>>31823028
First thing
http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-1-8x-scope-with-patented-acss-5-56-5-45-308-reticle-pa1-8x24sfp-acss-5-56
with whatever mount you like
secondly, that stock is hideous, get a B5 or something

Id say you need to lose that handguard, but literally you cant. Andersen went with a proprietary barrel nut, receiver height, and by extension, hand guard height.

Why in the fuck does g3 furniture cost so much. I can get mags for $4 but a non-fugly handguard costs $75.

>>31823980
I agree the stock is garbage. Getting different one soon and just using the current one on another build.

>>31823841
Still dont understand wtf you mean

>>31824247
The receiver cut on the SR25
The 45° ish cuts
Anderson put faux lines in on theirs, though they use DPMS cuts, look above the rear take down pin

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Babbies first cuckstamp

best ar10 magazines for a aero percision build rifle in .308win?

>>31825014
Midway USA ar stoner stainless or pmags

>>31825014
Brownells does a 20rd KAC-pattern mag.

>>31825039
>>31825025
what is the difference between these magazines?

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2319301781/magpul-pmag-25-m118-lr-sr-gen-m3-window-magazine-lr-308-gii-sr-25-ruger-precision-rifle-308-winchester-25-round-polymer

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2319925981/magpul-pmag-lr-sr-gen-m3-magazine-lr-308-sr-25-ruger-precision-rifle-308-winchester-polymer

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>>31825055
Nothing.
>https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2319301781/magpul-pmag-25-m118-lr-sr-gen-m3-window-magazine-lr-308-gii-sr-25-ruger-precision-rifle-308-winchester-25-round-polymer
Is the last listed option for
>https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2319925981/magpul-pmag-lr-sr-gen-m3-magazine-lr-308-sr-25-ruger-precision-rifle-308-winchester-polymer

>>31825077
all I can see is that one is slightly longer.

>>31825055
Window on the side

>>31825086
Because it's 25 rounds, as opposed to 10 or 20.

Best bullet weight for 18in DSA FAL? I have a bunch of German 146gr 7.62x41 REAL FUCKIN NATO, but what to use for real shit .308?

>>31827272

**7.62x51**, fuck.

>>31827272
145-168

>>31827314

Alright, thanks. I'll stick to the lighter stuff, then.

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I will gladly give the jews all the required shekels for pic related

>>31827444
Why?

>>31807010
My sig716 has been pretty solid honestly. Downside is the proprietary parts and it's a bit on the heavy side at 10lbs unloaded, but the thing is a tack driver. Just make sure it's a gen2 716 if you buy it used, the gen1s had buffer and feeding problems.

>>31827472
Because it's sexy

>>31827859
hey triple checking that i am not a total retard:

M1 Garand sight height = 1.5 inches?

/k/ube blessings on you all

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FALS

Anyone have experience with Hornady Steel Match? I found a box of 50 on clearance for $11 today; figured that'd already be a decent deal for normal steel shit so I picked it up.

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>>31828667
>Type 3 upper
>Type 1 lower

>>31828152
Yes
And a garand is not a battle rifle

>>31830994
>full-power cartridge
>loaded with en bloc clips
>a rifle
>made for war
>not a battle rifle
Okay.

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>>31831009
>clips

real guns have mags

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I know it is Wikipedia but looks like the SCAR-H has been issued.

>>31831024
>real guns have mags
real qts have a vag

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>>31831138
good thing im not qt and the garand isnt a battle rifle

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>>31831138
>831138
>Palindrome
Two for two anon

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If price doesn't matter should I stock up on .308 or 7.62 x 51?

>>31831276
Yes
.308 is slightly faster

>>31831276
>should I stock up
The answer is always yes. Always.

>>31831009
Your mother is equipped for and shares attributes with a whore but isn........
Bad example, sorry

What I'm getting at is that what you consider a word to mean does t have any value as to what it actually means. Specifically in this case, Battle Rifles are fed from detachable magazines.

And what it "was made for" is irrelevant. Remington 700s were made to be durr guns, yet got made into sniper rifles.

>>31827859
It's a riced out galil

>>31831138
For you

>>31823467
>Thinks removing an AK FCG is hard

Now I see why you own an M1A. You are retarded.

>>31832140
Its quite possibly the ugliest rifle ive ever laid eyes on, well, the sig 510 is worse.

Why is the voyager so cheap compared to all the other dsa fals?

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>>31831152
Everyone's a qt to some one ya fuckin qt3.14

>>31832872
Cast receiver, thinner margins, barrel is probably cheaper.

>>31832185
So you can do it with your fingers?

Of course not, you're being a retard

>>31832872
Cast receiver, no carry handle, cheaper barrel that cannot mount bi-pod, surplus furniture.

>>31800555
I asked Squid for his autograph when I saw him at Walmart. You know what that little fucker did? He pulled down his pants infront of the entire store, infront of my kids! He then took a can of peas and hit my 6 year old daughter in the fucking head with it and started yelling some shit about summoning something while taking a dump on the floor. I picked up my daughter and was making sure she was ok and when I turned around Squid was pissing on his shit. He plopped down on the ground and started to rub the piss shit on his dick then ran over and smacked me with his shit and piss covered dick and said it was his autograph. Then he started to chase people with his shit covered dick and when the police showed up he had no pants on, covered in shit and was acting like nothing happened. The fucker was just walking down isle 4 looking at breakfest cereal and he told the cops that I attacked him and that he has PTSD from playing the combat simulator Call of Duty. So the cops arrested me, took my daughter to CPS and towed my fucking car.

Seriously fuck that guy.

>>31830994
get the fuck outta here with that shit

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>>31835064
But its not
Its okay
It was still a good rifle back in the day
That day was long ago though.
>but muh feels

If I can make my debit card stop being a shit, I'm gonna be getting a C308 in the next week.

Do they have any particular quirks I should be aware of?

Anyone have a good source for surplus metric FAL mags?

I just got my new (non Voyager) DSA and the mag it came with is incredibly shitty so far. I can't reliably insert a mag on an open bolt without a round popping out and flying sideways into the chamber.

>>31837283
No, but
http://www.mosesmag.com/product/fal-black/

>>31837741

That's the ugliest shit I've ever seen.

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>>31837888

>>31837902
This turns me on
Goal is to have one "classic" and one tacticool FAL

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>>31837940
Why not just swap out between ACR stock and PARA stock, swap handguards and dustcover/mount on the same rifle?

>>31837940
Why not buy an FAL and a SCAR at that point?

>>31834194
>So you can do it with your fingers?


Uh, yes you can retard.

>>31838857
you're going to remove rivets with your fingers?

>>31838875
The AK FCG isn't riveted in.

>>31838979
you're going to remove screws with your fingers?

>>31839302
FCG isn't screwed in either.

Holy fuck you are stupid.

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>>31839302
Your bait is too obvious now.

>>31839565
You're going to remove clogs with your plunger?

Does the Zastava M77 count as a battle rifle or should I ask in an /AKG/ thread if it is worth buying. Looks like a nice way to get a .308

>>31830982
is there any difference in function or quality?

>>31839312
your fcg is definitely not replaceable with your fingers

quit lying on the internet

>>31840195
seems like a battle rifle to me, a vepr in 308 is also a good value battle rifle

>>31840195
It's not a battle rifle

>>31840290
That's what I want. A well made .308 for under $1000.

>>31840293
k

>>31820757
>>31821274
>>31821341
>>31831152
Why are stockings so erotic, specially the striped ones.

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I'm thinking of putting a red dot on my PTR91(welded rail), but I don't know which one to buy. The Sig Romeo 7 kinds looks ok, but I'd like to know /k/'s opinion.

>>31840290
>Mags that cost more than SCAR mags
>Good value

>>31840970
Is $35 a lot of a battle rifle mag?

>>31840980
Considering most have been around for 100 years the surplus mags can be found for like $1 a piece. So yes, that's expensive.

>>31840490
the Aimpoint PRO/ACO is a better buy

>>31840980
It is on the higher side. If your going to for a full battle rattle kit, your going to get what, MAYBE 9 mags total. Who cares. Some people like to have 20, or 50, or 100 mags sitting around. Loaded. Just in case. With $30-40 mags, harder to swing that.

Im just saying that if your going in it for pure price to performance, you need to look at laying in spare parts, and mags too.

>>31840304
PTR GI model and PTR's Atlantic firearm specials all fit that description.

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>>31840490
Swedes and Norwegians love Aimpoints. If you put a Comp M4 or a PRO on the lowest-possible mount on the welded rail you can get close to lower 1/3rd co-witness. The Microdots work too.

How would a aimpoint comp m4 be on a scar 17?

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>>31842106
I've seen at least two 17S on /k/ with comp M4. It'll be fine.

>>31842106
I've had one on mine, good to go.

>>31840285
>M1A kids are this stupid.

>>31842296
Well m14 competition shooters generally had three identically setup rifles.

1. The one you shoot at the match
2. The one you shoot at the match when #1 goes down
3. Last matches #1 rifle that is at the gunsmith getting repaired, and of course a fresh bedding

>>31842243
Did you like it?

>>31842438
It's a great dot. It's the toughest optic out there really.
I just swapped out for a NF, but I'm picking up an MWS (hope the November commissions can cover it, I've been homoraging cash this month) in a week is, the M4 is going on it I think.

>>31807769

>effectively for combat

100% of you faggots arguing about this shit will never fire at another human being, much less in "combat" (not counting being in the military where you wouldn't use any rifle you purchased yourself).

This board has become one of the worst on this fucking site.

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>>31843243
You should try to clean the sand out of your vagina before posting.

Use this picture and try to relax, it's the weekend

>>31821303

aww, someone has a baby thumb.

>>31843310
You mean the extended slide release?
My thumb kept hitting it, ordered a regular 17 lever, actually swapped it out last night. G34s come with the extended model, so damn annoying

>>31845141
What's up with the pup?
>And /thread

>>31845253
Probably ate his panties again.

New thread
>>31845324

>>31800938
>aspergers