/meg/

File: HEEMing a poor manlet.jpg (384KB, 873x1024px) Image search: [Google]

384KB, 873x1024px

Which branch prohibits fist fights? Because that's a branch to avoid.

Which military branch is the most passive aggressive and would be the most likely to use the phrase "toxic masculinity"?

Can you try to be a SEAL if your already in the Navy, or any other branch? I know it's near impossible to change MOS/NOS but if your contract is almost up how easily could you re-enlist with a SEAL contract?

>>31799239
all branches prohibit fistfights you retard. it's in nobody's best interest to let your lower enlisted fuck each other up at will.

>>31799485
What branch are you, my friend?

>>31799502
i'm no branch, i'm a private fucking civilian. i did 6 years in the army as an 11B. combatives are one thing, but nobody is going to sit around and watch two retards fuck each other up bare-knuckle.

>>31799534
>sit around and watch
You don't have to. Its why the barracks parking lots exist. You don't have to look unless you want to.

>>31799558
the only time i ever saw a fistfight in the barracks parking lot, both people got ar15'd

>>31799239
the only insight I have for you is I heard in a training company the DS's had 2 sets of boxing gloves. If 2 guys were going to fight they'd be given gloves and locked in the laundry room for 15 minutes after which they were to report to the DS's office for Article 15's

Any puddle pirate questions?

>>31799778
how many dicks do you suck and fuck in an average day on the high seas?

What's up with the Mandarin collar on the Army Uniform blouse? What is it designed and used for?

>>31799993
designed to be annoying as fuck and never used. nobody will ever let you use it because it looks goofy as shit. has some entertainment value as people who want to pretend to be soldiers often use the velcro clasp and look 20 kinds of assed up in the process

>>31799993
The new uniforms don't even have it. Theoretically it could be used to help prevent dust or chemical agents from getting into your uniform. Realistically, nobody ever used it.

File: suffer not the fatty.gif (2MB, 330x315px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 330x315px

On a scale of 1 to 10: How whiny is the average Air Force member? I want to mentally prepare myself beforehand. To avoid future homicides.

Anyone have any recommended study guides for the ASVAB?

I took the practice test at my recruiter's office and scored and 80. He says I'll most likely get ten points higher on the real one, but I'd like to study just in case. On the math portion I realized I'd forgotten some basic shit like what a factorial or prime number is.

Any 0311s here? I have a few questions.

>>31800649
>studying for the ASVAB
i rolled into MEPS hung over and sleepless and scored a 97. i have a GED. as long as you're not an actual, honest to god mongoloid it's the easiest test you'll ever take

>>31800755
Hey there 25-series GEDturd, get off his nuts. If he wants to study, he studies. Stop applying your fucked up life to his.

>>31800728
11B here. unless you have any MUHREEN specific questions i can probably help you out with general gruntshit. and before you say anything, we do the same job with less indoctrination.
>>31800792
>25-series
kek

>>31800649
check the FAQ

>>31800728
I was an 0311 for 6 years. Got out in July. What's your question

will a 98 on the AFQT help me get a bunch of waivers?

>>31799239

Same question in two threads, now we know you're a tard.

>>31799239
Faggot.

Nobody reply to him

>>31799558

Neverserved.

>>31800809
Questions somewhat specific, but some may still apply.
>>31800858

>What was life like after boot? Like when you got put into your unit

>how hard is the crucible? I've heard everything from "extremely" to "more annoying than hard."

>were you deployed? If so, where to?

>is there any advice you'd give a person interested in enlisting how to make boot easier, aside from being an good shape?

>>31800649
I'm >>31800877

maxed out the line scores on the ASVAB, nearly. I think they keep the scores on the practice test low to make you study or something. I got every question right I think, but only got an 83. you should do great even without study

>>31799575

Doesn't happen anymore.

>>31800921
Crucible isn't that bad. Don't quit and you'll be fine.

Life sucks after boot camp and SOI. Luckily I deployed to Afghanistan within 2 months of getting to my unit, so I only had to deal with shit for 2 months. Your life will suck for way longer than that.

I went on one Afghanistan deployment in 2011 and a MEU in 2014.

To make boot less gay you have to not be the worst guy in the platoon. Try and not stand out in any way.

So are we getting a new war soon or what. It's already been like 5 years

>>31800921
don't know shit about "the crucible" so i won't attempt.

but for infantry dicks, basic/boot is invariably the easy part. you come out all high on your perceived accomplishment, proud to put you uniform and stride into your new unit. well, when you get there you're a fucking shitbird. in many ways it's harder than boot/basic and it stays that way for a while -- longer if you fuck up. you're going to get hazed constantly. the media says it doesn't happen, it does. only way to stop it is to get squared away ASAP.

i deployed to afghanistan in '09-'10. deployment is fun. a lot more fun than garrison

don't just be in good shape for basic. be in good shape AND have a lot of experience with rucking. that shit absolutely destroys people who think they're PT studs. go fill a backpack with 80 pounds and work up to 12 miles. if you can do that, just try not to be a shithead. always put effort in EVERY single thing you do because you will get caught if you fuck up in any way.

>>31800964
When you got to your unit, what happened? Is it true the guys that are already there treat you like less than shit until they see you're a cool dude?

>try not to stand out in anyway
Does this include not trying to be in any sort of leadership roll?

>>31801037
>Does this include not trying to be in any sort of leadership roll?
especially putting yourself in any leadership role. what does a leadership role earn you in boot? a cookie? no, it puts you under a microscope and makes you responsible for a bunch of shitheads. a lot of work for no gain

>>31801037
Yes you'll get treated like absolute dogshit, it won't stop until more boots come.

Yes you don't need a leadership role. Nothing from boot camp counts towards anything. Do not stand out in boot camp. Don't be a shitbag, and don't be a squad leader.

>>31801090
>Yes you'll get treated like absolute dogshit, it won't stop until more boots come.
and god help you if the new guys are more squared away than you are. seen it happen. guys literally never recover at that point until after deployment

>>31801059
I saw somewhere it makes you able to graduate at PFC. I could have misread something.

>>31801003
How long does the hazing last? My biggest fear is fucking something up, (in boot/basic or after) and making everyone else pay for it. I'm sure that only leads to an ass kicking

>>31801116
in the army you can go in as a pfc or even spc if you have college. no clue how the marines handle it. worry about fucking up but don't stress about it before you get there. you're going to fuck up -- it's a lot to take in for anyone and you're learning it under high stress. just don't make a habit of it and you'll be fine

I'm a Marine vet and currently working as a licensed paramedic in Texas. I already know where I would stand if I reenlisted as an Army Medic in terms of what rank I would enter and whats expected of me. My question is what is the scope of practice differences between a combat medic or a medevac medic?

>>31801116
Hazing question got answered, I was typing when the other posts got posted. Srry guys.

>>31801130
one of my squad leaders came straight out of the corps right before deployment. ssg to ssg, no loss of rank, but he kept the same job. not sure how it would work if you're trying to reclass.

also that guy was the genuinely biggest prick i've ever met in my life. not even prick in a "waaah i hate my nco" way, but just a genuinely shitty person.

File: 1477263581598.jpg (49KB, 540x405px) Image search: [Google]

49KB, 540x405px

>>31801116
>My biggest fear is fucking something up, (in boot/basic or after) and making everyone else pay for it
The fact that you are actually worried shows you arent a bad dude. Lots of pieces of shit come thru and couldnt care less. They get hazed. Which they should. If you are making an effort to do the right thing and improve yourself youll be fine. Stop stressing.

>>31800999
If you plan to go SOF after a Clinton victory, expect frequent use. If Trump wins, expect regular military mobilization against ISIS.

They both want a war to make sure they are remembered

>>31801252
praying for a trump win then. can't get back in until people start dying again.

>>31801169
this
for
>>31801116

The fact that you give a fuck shows that you're a squareday away dude.

Now join my fuckin' military, cool-guy. The storms are a-comin'

>>31801116
Also use your time in the corps to stock up on gear and magazines. You can easily get out with over 50 magazines. I have 2 massive spools of 550 cord, a moving box half full with Chem lights, cold weather gear, mags, pouches, shit like that. Start collecting as a boot and if you live in the barracks, take it all home on leave. Make sure you lock everything in your room when your on leave. Also write down your Xbox and tv serial numbers.

>>31801299
>the storms are a-comin'
I'm the guy you replied too. Final question;
Do you think we're gunna fight the Russians? Or just more of the sand people?

>the fact you're worried means you're squared away
My grandpa was a muhreen back in the 50's, he told me about how they got extra pt, because some guy forgot to shower one morning. That night they dragged this guy into the shower and scrubbed him down with a grill brush. I don't wish to suffer a similar fate for any mistake I made. Plus, I'm a pretty moral person.

>>31801397
It's more borderline x rated homosexual hazing nowadays.

>>31800877

No. Better ASVAB scores don't magically make waivers possible. They only matter for which jobs you have available.

>>31801391
take army gear but don't take other peoples' gear. that's a fucking shitbag move. everyone does it but you actually have to return a huge amount of your issued personal clothing minus uniforms. if you don't have it? guess what, you have to fucking pay for it. you are horribly fucking someone over if you just grab gear that you see unattended and send it home.

don't be a shitbag

>>31801430
Don't listen to this guy. Gear adrift is a gift.

>>31801391
this is bait

>>31801454
this guy is a shitbag and the only reason he didn't have to pay for gear when he left the military is because he's a fucking thief

>>31801420
might it help the Recruiting CO's feel better about signing off on me?

>>31801471
How the fuck is that bait. Telling him to stock up on gear is a valid point. Telling him to lock his shit up is also a valid point.

>>31801489

Nope.

Either you qualify or you don't. Recruiters tend to make a big deal out of ASVAB scores because it's an easy way to influence recruits.

>Wow anon, you got a 70? I've never SEEN a score like that before. Why, with a score that high you shouldn't even think of trying to get [JOB YOU WANT]. I bet you can I pull some strings and hook you up with [JOB RECRUITER IS TRYING TO FILL].

Making people think they're special works nine times out of ten.

>>31801486
So? I didn't have to pay any money, and I got out with a bunch of shit. I chalk that up as a win

>>31801540
so you're a shitty person. a buddy fucker

>>31801540

Bruh, you don't need to join the military to steal shit. You can just shoplift from local businesses or break into people's houses without even bothering to go to bootcamp.

>>31801550
You seem mad at my life choices. Oh well. Guess I'll just cry myself to sleep next to my large pile of magazines tonight.

>>31801568
not mad, just calling you out. you directly cost other people hundreds of dollars because you're a fucking thief.

>>31801532
OH FUCK

well

>Either you qualify or you don't

can go into more detail on this? I thought it was a judgment call sort of thing that CO's made with waivering. I only have to meet a set of criteria?

>>31801568
This. The enlisted corps sucks shit, might as well benefit from it somehow.

>>31801559
I joined the military to serve my country in a time of war. Stealing people's shot was just an extra benefit on top of all the other benefits.

>>31801497
>go steal some shit

>its not bait dude

>>31801586
you're a faggot

>>31801589
It's not bait. Thievery is one of the corps values

>>31801578
You called me out bro. Good work.

>>31801605
Good post

File: UCD-Memorial1W-e1400681247666-775x1024.jpg (226KB, 775x1024px) Image search: [Google]

226KB, 775x1024px

I'm talking to an army recruiter tomorrow what should I expect?

I'm trying to get in the medical core and I'm looking at ROTC at my local college but he said I could also get there via the enlisted route, thoughts?

>>31801617
>>31801606
>>31801622
don't be this guy. you'll see people stealing all around you and justifying it because they're faggots but have some self-respect and integrity. this is how niggers act, not human beings.

>>31801404
Not that guy but scrubbing a guy down with a grill brush in the showers seems pretty gay.

>>31801642
Don't be this guy. You don't want to owe the military hundreds of dollars when you get out.

>>31801629

Medical CORPS, not core.

You can "get there" as enlisted in the sense that you can join to be a lab technician or a healthcare specialist (like an EMT/medic).

If you want to be a doctor, nurse, or PA then you need to commission. Enlisting won't really help you there. ROTC is what you want.

>>31801397

No, we're not gonna fight the Russians on even ground. Maybe some proxy wars a-la Nam.

We'll likely see an Arab-centric conflict again soon. Hell, we're still actively engaging in parts of Afghanistan and Iraq.

Either that or something in Arab-Euro areas or a semi-Asiatic conflict.

>tfw when you were born in Canada so you grew up with a love for Canada
>You wish you could join the US military but you don't want to betray your country and Canada isn't a 3rd world shithole so you would be the weird Canadian kid in the US military
>You're on ADHD medication so it doesn't matter anyways

>>31801664
Yeah that's what I thought
I don't want to be one of those assholes who only uses the military to pay for medschool I'm trying to become a Battalion Surgeon (62b)

>>31801678
we did a couple patrols with a platoon of canadians when we were taking over their AO in afghanistan. they're a bunch of really competent dudes. way better MRE's too

File: image.jpg (30KB, 300x298px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 300x298px

What are some of the best combat boots that actually look like good, desert combat boots?
Been looking around, but stuff's hard to find. I ship to Ft. Benning on January 3rd for BCT, and I'd like to get used to wearing boots 24/7 now, as opposed to waiting for my feet to get murdered. The Garmony T8 NFS looks pretty promising, but I'm having trouble finding any in desert tan.

>>31801629
I'm in Amedd Bolc right now. I got in through ROTC. There are a few people who are enlisted direct commissions but they're older and already have a college degree. Basically do ROTC if you want to be here in 4 years or go enlisted and gamble you'll make it here in 8-10 years.
>>31801664
You can be a 67J or 70B in the med side which don't require any real degree.

>>31801730
Steal some dancers from supply. Or any day it's raining, go to a different barracks and people please their boots outside to dry.

>>31801730
you're not going to get to wear your cool guy boots in basic. they'll take them for you and fit you for the wooden, terribly fitting standard issue boots like everyone else. your unit will let you wear them (as long as they're not goofy like tanker boots and are tan) when you get there though

>>31801714
Ah, that's harder to answer. You really are just better off getting accepted into med school and then talking to a recruiter. Don't be ashamed they're paying for it.

>>31801778
>Don't be ashamed they're paying for it.
this. they're gonna get what they want out of you regardless. if they didn't think it was worth it they wouldn't do it in the first place

>>31801760
So would I be basically retarded to buy the boots now? I mean, I'm basically retarded already because /infantry/ in peacetime, but... You get the point.

>People actually join the military, and don't become rangers.

Man up or just get a civilian job.

>>31801798
it's not retarded since you'll get them back. you're going to show up in civilians and your cool guy boots and they'll take it along with your civilian gear and give it back when you're done.

>>31801798
Buy boots later. Also really make sure they're coyote or else you're just pissing away money.

Is being an officer worth the trouble? I want to join the navy and I feel like the recruiters have been pushing me towards officer but the only designators I like are Public Affairs Officer and Human Resources Officer. I assume those are hard to get into. And I read that I'm too old for Supply Corps Officer.

Contact marriage? Y/N?

>>31801818
yeah it is probably smarter to just wait. you never know if you have the one in a thousand unit that wants every swinging dick wearing the exact same uniform down to the boots. if you're going 11B they're most likely going to let you though

>>31801818
Does coyote brown count?
Or is there also coyote tan?
Desert tan? Picture in >>31801730 are the coyote brown.

>>31801851
those are most likely going to be fine. like the other guy said it is probably smarter in the long run to just wait until you get to your duty station and make sure before you drop the money

>>31801865
Thanks for the advice.
Bonus question, though. I'll be going through Airborne school and Ranger assessment immediately after BCT, do they let you wear your own boots for those or do they give you a 'shit' pair like you said earlier?

>>31801921
no clue, never been through airborne or RIP, certainly not straight out of basic. i hope you know how few people actually complete that program straight out of the civilian sector

>>31801804
Why rangers?

/meg/ am I allowed to ask questions about being an officer?

>>31801833

Just fall in love with a stripper like all the other privates.

>>31802002
if you post on 4chan you don't have what it takes to be an infantry officer

>>31802013
I'm not thinking infantry lol
I'm a Navy rotcfag

>>31802013
Not true. One of my platoon commanders was a dork. He's the one who showed me 4chan. He showed me /b/

File: dance.gif (261KB, 328x272px) Image search: [Google]

261KB, 328x272px

You are on the bus heading to basic.

What song do you listen to on the way there?
https://is.4chan.org/wsg/1477347437684.webm

>>31802039
>I'm a Navy rotcfag
I was navy. What do you wanna know?

>>31802159
How do I not be a shit officer? I get the whole listen to your petty officers and chiefs thhng, but how should I interact with the men? What is considered too friendly?

>>31802012
Yeah, but then she'll Jew me out of retirement pay, and I don't want that.

Can't I just marry another enlisted?

File: 1477438361927.jpg (106KB, 640x789px) Image search: [Google]

106KB, 640x789px

>>31802255
>What is considered too friendly?
Nothing is considered too friendly as long as you set the standard.

What i mean is its ok to joke around and stuff but you need to be leading from the front. No one is gonna wanna get quals if you are behind in yours. No one is gonna wanna shine their boots unless yours are. You gotta earn respect dont just assume youre gonna get it. Stuff like that.

Also in terms of being real close with your division you will be but desu officers dont just hang around all that much. They got their own staterooms and officer friends and quals to work on anyway. Plus most enlisted dont wanna hang around officers anyway. No matter how cool you are at the end of the day youre the enemy. Youre the mom who has to yell at the kids if they are having to much fun.

anyone here ever work in processing waivers? can you talk about the process?

File: image.jpg (40KB, 384x420px) Image search: [Google]

40KB, 384x420px

qustion. can a single male surive on gi bill money for the rest of his life? thats considering cheap rent and a steady diet of ramen. no car, no tv, no gf

>>31802469
if you can survive boot camp, you can survive anything xD

File: 1477125087101.jpg (88KB, 680x461px) Image search: [Google]

88KB, 680x461px

>>31802469
>gi bill money for the rest of his life
???
They only give BAH while youre in school dude wtf you talkin about

>>31802469

i am in same boat

no gf beta male who fucking hates socializing. military has not helped my attitude, is the one upside after my few years of service and live like a NEET?

>>31802505
you get paid for being in the military dont you?

>>31802505
He's enlisted. The fuck do you want from him?

>>31802540
>>31802558
What? Maybe i dont understand the question. I thought you asked are you able to survive forever using only the BAH from the Gi Bill? If thats right you only get BAH for 36 months while youre in school. I doubt that can last you forever.

How do you avoid being in your mid-30s while still an O-3?

File: 1475888110766.jpg (65KB, 450x600px) Image search: [Google]

65KB, 450x600px

>>31802602
nigga what the fuck's bah. im a loser faggot who wants to join during peace time to take advantage of the system, once i do my 8 years or whatever ill just blow my head off. but before that i need to know if i can afford rent n shit.

>>31802653
>bait

>>31801059
>what does a leadership role earn you in boot? a cookie? no, it puts you under a microscope and makes you responsible for a bunch of shitheads. a lot of work for no gain

This. And the only thing you're going to get for your trouble is a bunch of other shit birds talking trash to you because you fuck up something minor and get booted by the kill hat.

Anything where you're putting yourself in a position to be "over" anyone else is going to cause you nothing but trouble. No matter how "high speed" you think are (or sometimes may actually be).

>>31802632
By getting commissioned at 29

>>31802337
>Plus most enlisted dont wanna hang around officers anyway.

This. I'm coming from an Army MI perspective where it can be really officer heavy compared to other CMFs, and it was still uncomfortable to hang out with officers outside of work.

It's hanging out with your boss.

Former HM2(AW/SW) here, got out a few months ago.

Hit me with your questions

>>31803172
I feel like I should clarify that it's because of the environment. You could take a dude who actually has been around the block who is reenlisting, but he's been out long enough he has to go back through basic, and put him in the environment of basic (a shit ton of 17-19 year old kids who are probably away from home for the first time fresh out of high school) and they're going to have problems volunteering for platoon guide or whatever.

>>31803274
>it was still uncomfortable to hang out with officers outside of work
Dude i meant at work. I cant ever imagine doing that outside of working hours. Sounds horrible. The vast majority of SWOs were weird as fuck.

>>31801730
I was issued bates jungle boots steel toes. I wore them on two deployments 2 months in desert, 3 on ship and Okinawa, I also wore them in Michigan winters and summers they are just now getting unwearable.

>>31803375
>Dude i meant at work.

My experience was that it wasn't much of a choice really, there are just so many officers and warrants running around in a 2 shop. Especially J2 and G2. My team of six when I was at the ARCENT G2 was three junior enlisted, a Sgt, a 1LT, and a Captain. And then we had a "battle captain" who was just the OIC when the light colonel wasn't on shift. And then a couple of chief warrant officers floating around.

The level of officer-enlisted interaction is a lot higher in intel.

>>31803461
>>31803172
Okinawa was about 7 months and Michigan for 3 years. They suck for roofing though I slide everywhere

File: 1476712977148.jpg (15KB, 233x267px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 233x267px

>>31803465
Spose that makes sense. I was on a ship so obviously it was way different. My division was 25 enlisted with a DIVO who was a JO green as fuck . Occasionally we'd see OPS who was a LT and a complete faggot and ADO who was a warrant and was a complete bro but lame in general. Basically we tried to avoid interacting with them at all costs.

If I was to join the muhreens, how can I maximize my chances of going to japan?

>>31803722
>If I was to join the muhreens, how can I maximize my chances of going to japan?

Show up to reception in your kimono and with your katana. You have to show them that you're learn'd in the ways of the superior Nipponese.

>>31803808
>implying I'm a weeb
>thinking I don't just want to go so I can meet qt3.14 jap bitches at bars and get them to fuck me until I can't stand up.

File: 1447369368918.png (96KB, 500x545px) Image search: [Google]

96KB, 500x545px

>>31803722
>>31803851
Enjoy 29 Palms

>>31803851
>Implying you're not a weeb

>Thinking that you will get laid left and right just for being white in Japan when you can't even get laid at home

>>31803934
>thinking I'm white and not latino
>thinking I don't have friends that have been there that say it's easy as fuck

>>31803975
>>thinking I'm white and not latino

>I totes love fish tahkos BUENOS DIAS COMO ESSTAHS I'm latino now! Chipultapec! La Raza! Kekeke

>>thinking I don't have friends that have been there that say it's easy as fuck

>Implying you have friends that wouldn't lie to you about getting laid
>Implying your friends wouldn't pay hookers
>Implying you have friends

File: 1475088732926.png (437KB, 600x600px) Image search: [Google]

437KB, 600x600px

>>31803808
>>31803851
>>31803934
>>31803975
>>31804013

File: 1455239715080.png (213KB, 500x400px) Image search: [Google]

213KB, 500x400px

>>31804080

>>31801819
How old are you? And what do you mean 'trouble'?

I'm about to graduate with a master's degree in IT (Management Information Systems, concentration in cyber security). Is there any way I can put this to use in the military? I'm also looking at civilian jobs but that's not really relevant to this question.

>>31805935
By "civilian jobs" I meant civilian jobs for the military/DoD/DHS/etc.

Do Nasty Girls get the same training and benefits of reservists and active duty?

>>31805998
what do you think, genius? is a weekend warrior on average going to be as competent as a guy who lives and breathes the lifestyle?

>>31805998
No.

Doesn't mean they don't get the same training or benefits.

Shit, >>31806079 is for >>31806039

>>31806079
you don't get anywhere near the same training. you don't get anywhere near the same benefits either.

>>31806108
Okay, explain.

>>31806134
training is a function of time rather than whether or not you are doing the same exercises. if you practice your basic infantry skills every day you are going to have it down 10x better than guys who only practice them once a month (or whatever the nasty girl obligation is). you're going to be more comfortable with the guys you're going to deploy with and you're going to work better as a unit right out of the box when they set you loose downrange.

benefits-wise, the big thing is you aren't getting paid like you're active duty. you can obviously have a job on top of being a nasty girl, but that's the biggest thing. my understanding is that you don't get the full, free, socialized healthcare -- including dental -- that active duty guys get as well.

Other than quality of life, what's the difference between the Army and Air Force?

Do people in the Army really get promoted quickly?

If I spend the rest of my time at uni practicing my long range shooting, would it increase my chances of being selected for/passing any SF sniper school?

>>31806187

You have to consistently be able to shoot expert, so I reckon. Then when you get there you have to shoot expert back to back twice. Then comes all the fun shit.

>>31806187
shooting is the smallest component of being a sniper. my first team leader went through sniper school and what do you think he never shut the fuck up about? people who can max out the army's easy as shit marksmanship test are a dime a dozen. they don't sweat it because shooting is a science as much as an art, and as you would guess, they teach the science part of it. you need to be smart, squared the FUCK away, max the PT test and then some, and be good at juggling a bunch of things at once. some of the tests they give you are really goofy. spatial intelligence is a must.

also, you're going to have to brown nose and suck some dick because it's not like applying for SF selections and it's not like enlisting in the army. spots open up to combat units (you better be infantry or cav scout) on a unit by unit basis, and it's your unit who's going to decide who goes. so if your 1SG or -- god forbid -- SGM doesn't like your face, you can kiss your chances of sniper school goodbye.

File: 1454644693173.png (518KB, 639x557px) Image search: [Google]

518KB, 639x557px

>>31802044
>He's the one who showed me 4chan. He showed me /b/
haha wtf

Got me thinking, are there any people in the military that like anime?
Like watch it on their time off? Talk about it?
Maybe even a weeb?

>>31806270
my barracks room was full of anime figurines. wouldn't recommend it. for about six months after deployment all i did when i got off work was to go back to my room, drink beer, and watch cute girls do cute things

>>31806270
Dunno if this counts but in my NROTC unit, one of the priors spends at least an hour a day in the lounge watching girls und panzer

>>31806270
I work with plenty of guys. Some are annoying, fat, asocial losers. Some are normal people who like anime. Anime seems to be something that fully transcends race too; black guys Hispanics, Asians, and white people all watch and talk about it. Some are more obsessed than others. Don't be the one guy I work with who tries to play anime songs over the speaker at work.

I don't really watch anime so I don't know how deep they go with obscure shows or anything, but watching anime isn't a stigma, at least in the Marines.

>Admit to [spoiler]Roleplay[/spoiler] partner I play with on a [spoiler]MUD[/spoiler] that i'm kind of intimidated because he's a veteran.
>TFW he admits that he's a TRAP and a NEET now and I shouldn't be afraid just because had had a job in the past.
>We now have a deeper, trappier relationship.

Maybe you babykillers aren't so bad.

>>31806241
I can suck dick n-no homo. Is the science part just memorizing and applying formulas? And if it is, are they like babby's first meth, or calc?

>>31806282
kek that sounds awesome but at terrible at the same time, what branch?

>>31806289
good man

>>31806315
marines sound a lot better now

the reason i ask is because I'm really stuck between which branch; marines or air force
I really love the Marine ethics and pride, but I also like the air force chill like having my own room and such. I still want to be able to engage in my hobbies.

>>31799239
Coast Guard/AF/Navy/Army/Marines/SF of any sort in that order

>>31806455
it was indeed awesome and terrible at the same time. didn't exactly have some of my most proud moments drunk at 3am, still in uniform watching k-on. got walked in on by one of the barracks whores a buddy let in. paid her 50 bucks and slammed her disgusting, razor burned pussy, kicked her out and went back to watching k-on and drinking beer

So I'm a fat cunt that's lost weigh to join army, still going though.
Should I lift weights and then do push ups, or just only do push ups/ sit ups/ running?

>>31806498
fuck weights. muscle is aesthetic, not functional. you want the lean, real-world strength that endurance athletes have. it's fine to lift obviously, but keep in mind that any extra muscle you pack on isn't going to help you on runs or rucks

>>31806506
I might need to lift to get to the point I can do pull ups tho. Are pull ups a mandatory part of Army bootcamp? If not I guess I probably should just do loads of push ups and sit ups and runs.

>>31806520
do pull-ups. they weren't a part of the apft when i was in but iirc they are now

>>31806526
Is it alright if I do shitty on the PFT in basic and then get better for AIT?
I want to join but I'm currently like 40 lbs over what I need to be, and going to join in June.
Currently can do 20 push ups and 40 sit ups, no pull ups tho.

>>31806552
if you're fat you're going to catch a lot of shit from the drills. in your situation you should be pushing for the maximum standard, not the minimum

what branch would not hesitate to take flat feet

File: 1433845851897.gif (2MB, 235x240px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 235x240px

>>31806497
beautiful

What exactly is a contractor, and how does one become one after leaving the military?

>>31803275
No questions really but I think HM is neato and wouldn't mind enlisting to do some greenside and blueside

Can you get civilian certs on blueside? Like lab stuff or xray? Because that would make it worth it

>>31807231
a contractor is a coolguy. you need to do coolguy stuff in the military or else they won't think you're cool enough

>>31807231
>>31807246

99.9% of military contractors are not deploying private security types. Most of them are unarmed and work in the states doing stuff like IT, engineering, and maintenance.

What's this about the National Call to Service Program?

>>31807340
It's rarely offered and comes in a couple forms. The most common one I've seen is a two year active duty Army contract. It's basically the shortest active contract you can get, but you get less benefits (IE, not the full GI Bill).

For most people it's better to just get a 3 year contract.

>>31807246
I-I'm a coolguy!

>>31807333
So, how would one become a contractor?

>>31807374
Alright, thanks.

How's the Army compared to the Air Force? Want to do the equivalent of 3d1x2 or 3d0x2.

>>31803975
Fellow beaner here it's easy as fuck spent 4 years there

Be combat engineer they get sent there a lot. Pray for kinser or futenma Butler is alright Schwab and kinser as dildos


Spend as much time in Naha as possible
>>31804013
This white boi mad

>tfw you get your ship date and the reality of it all begins to hit

File: 1476888538493.jpg (25KB, 480x220px) Image search: [Google]

25KB, 480x220px

>>31806497
Noice

How common is stealing in Basic and when you get to your unit? I read you should write your name on everything you own with permanent marker

What can /meg/ tell me about Cavalry Scouts
All I know about them is the memes "If you ain't cav..." etc
Are they coolguys? Do they do coolguy stuff?

>>31807749
cav scouts wish they were infantry

>>31807702
Probably depends on the branch. In the AF, I never had shit stolen... except for some civilian that broke into my bungalow in England.

If I want to be like the helicopter guys from Apocalypse Now do I go 11B with airborne assault or cav scout?

Also will people give me shit for not wanting to go to ranger school? Just want to keep my head down mostly, learn some infantry stuff, do 4 years and get out.

>>31807375
>So, how would one become a contractor?

Most of the time you just need to have a degree and/or clearance and be willing to move to the DC/MD/VA area. That's defense contractor central, with tons of middle class office-dwelling contractor jobs.

There's also decent sized contingents elsewhere, usually wherever you find a federal/military presence.

When people talk about the "military industrial complex", this is what they mean. It's easy as fuck to get a 60k+ year contractor job, but it's not necessarily going to be an exciting life.

>>31807810

There are enough guys who really want to go to Ranger school that if you don't express interest nobody will probably care. Being mediocre in the military is pretty easy.

>>31807810
Those guys were cavalry. 19D would be the way to go

File: image.jpg (90KB, 720x540px) Image search: [Google]

90KB, 720x540px

Any armor crewmen here? What's it rike? Do you rike it?

>>31808098
Aslav crew commander here, it's a good gig

>>31799835
Usually around 20

Which branch has the cutest gay guys?

>>31807394
3D0x2 here know alot about the 3D jobs I can answer some questions. No nothing about MOS equivalent

>>31809032
*Anchors Away starts playing*

>>31804977
I'm 32. What I mean by trouble is: I've heard the whole officer process takes a year to get into and the designators I'm interested in are probably overmanned. I don't want to spend almost a year waiting to find out I didn't get in if I can just enlist. So is being an officer so great that it's worth the wait. Personally, I like the specialized jobs for enlisted sailors. Also, money is not an issue.

>>31809565
Going officer is better in many ways, at the end of the day you'll be a manager regardless of your MOS. So you'll be in charge of bunch of people, delegating tasks and so forth. You won't be doing any grunt work.

But yeah, I'm 28 and I'm going enlist because for me it makes sense for me. Can't be an officer because I'm not a citizen yet. I understand the feeling of just wanting to get started, I wouldn't want to wait for a year either. We're not getting any younger.

It's all about finding something you can imagine yourself doing for a few years if you're just planning to do your 4 years and then quit. If you want to have a career then you should definitely become an officer, no question.

>>31809655
I wasn't planning on making it a career. There's other stuff I want to do, but I need a little more education which I'm hoping the military will pay for. As I understand it, I'm too old for almost half the officer jobs and most of the rest I don't have the right education. There's like 5 jobs I do qualify for but they seem like desk/computer jobs.

File: itstime.jpg (37KB, 497x280px) Image search: [Google]

37KB, 497x280px

>>31807241

Sorry about the delayed response. The answer is yes, you can get civilian certs on both greenside and blueside, but the fact of the matter is, unless you plan on staying in the EMT field after the military (not recommended), you're better off using Navy COOL to pay for your blueside certs.

It's what I did for my medical assistant credentials and I'm making $16/hour working part time at the same university I attend full time for my undergrad.

You can also get certs in EKG, phlebotomy, medical admin shit, etc. It just makes you a stronger candidate for jerbs when you get out (in addition to your time spent as an HM, of course)

>>31809032

Air Force, believe it or not.

The Navy doesn't allow proper facilities for taking care of oneself if you're underway

>>31807374

>not the full GI Bill

Wait wait wait, the only stipulation on the Post-9/11 GI Bill is that a servicemember must have enlisted and served for a minimum of 90 days after September 10, 2001.

I think you may be mistaken, though I don't know anything about National Call to Service

>>31807616

I couldn't wait to get out of my hometown, tbqhwyf.

I had been stuck there for too long after high school (two years felt like an eternity) and most of the decent people I knew went to higher-end college or simply left seeking greener pastures.

All that was left in my town were dead-end wage-slave jobs (fast food and big box retail), alcoholism, and a growing meth problem.

I got out of there at a good time.

The Navy was probably the best decision I ever made, second only to getting out and actually using my GI Bill.

>>31810329
>The Navy was probably the best decision I ever made, second only to getting out and actually using my GI Bill.
Same, rate? Not that other anon btw.

>>31810289
>The Navy doesn't allow proper facilities for taking care of oneself if you're underway
?
>Air Force, believe it or not.
Why would anyone not believe this? AF is pussiest branch easily.

File: laughing whores 57.jpg (107KB, 634x871px) Image search: [Google]

107KB, 634x871px

Honest question: Do mean girls exist in the military officer corps?

Are there O-3 mean girl cliques? Because that sounds vaguely terrifying.

File: zeUwyd5.gif (2MB, 463x242px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 463x242px

I have a pretty garbage sense of smell. I once had a dead mouse in my wall for what must have been days before I noticed him there.

How do I avoid being the stinky guy in the barracks and in the field? I don't think it's an issue with chemical weapons or gasoline or whatever, but I've let my BO run away from me before.

>>31811349
Do you wash your asshole?

>>31811354
My intention is to make sure my ass is clean at all time, and to make sure I do my laundry at least weekly. I was just wondering if there are any protips for smaller things that I might overlook.

>>31811114
Women naturally create weird insular groups. They can't help it, it's just their default social state.

>>31811349
bathe and utilize deodorant. wash your clothes. It's pretty sad that you have to be instructed on /k/ how not to be an smelly, unhygienic shitbag.

>>31807810
Go 11b, you will never live down being a cav scout. Most light infantry units train for air assault missions. Airborne units such as the 82nd and the 173rd practice air assault as much as they practice jumping. You can guarantee yourself an airborne contract by doing well in basic, they hand that shit out all the time to people with halfway decent pt scores.

File: 1468430951640.jpg (78KB, 750x500px) Image search: [Google]

78KB, 750x500px

>>31811419
It's not sad to want to learn to do hygiene the /k/ way.

>>31811396
Get rid of your armpit hairs Hairs hold scents

>>31811419
Better he learns it now than ruin the lives of his platoon.

>>31798845
How do I into the canadian military?

>>31807601
>Implying white

>Implying mad

>>31811694
is this the top beaner 2016 competition or /meg/? going for spic of the year?

File: image.jpg (70KB, 550x550px) Image search: [Google]

70KB, 550x550px

How hard is it going from enlisted to officer?

>>31811808
Depends on what route you take. Green to gold is a program the army has but it can be pretty selective (if you dont have some college you are usually looked over). Getting out after your enlistment and using the gi bill to go to a college with ROTC is easier imo.

>>31811808
Slightly harder than going civilian to officer.

Enlisting in the army and I'm interested in 68A

Is this a rare MOS? How likely is it that I can get it in my contract at meps?

If they say it isn't available, do I have any kind of recourse or do I just have to pick something else?

File: muh_pringles.jpg (323KB, 1800x1196px) Image search: [Google]

323KB, 1800x1196px

What is Army EOD like? Is it satisfying for people who aren't batshit insane like Jeremy Renner in The Hurt Locker?

>>31809197
Tell me about the 3D jobs, please.

How's the promotion rate for the Army?

>>31812837
you can try to play hardball but in this recruiting environment they'll most likely just tell you to fuck off. you literally never know how niche MOSes like yours are going to be. by nature, they're generally either incredibly understaffed or beating away applicants with a stick. you'll never know until you talk to your recruiter/meps. if they don't offer you anything at all that you'd enjoy doing, you can always leave. you're talking about the next couple years of your life, so it's worth being careful and making sure you get to do something you want to do

>>31813018
For what?

An enlisted fag job?
Or an officer job?

>>31813053
An enlistedfag job.

Want to become a Warrant Officer some time in the future, but I heard that getting promotions to E-5 in the National Guard isn't easy.

Planning to go active duty for three years.

>>31813018

Depends on your MOS and level of motivation. In some jobs you can fast-track right to E-6 in under 5 years, in some jobs you will be struggling to make E-5 before you get booted out at 8 years as an E-4.

E-1 to E-4 is pretty much automatic and takes 2 years.

>>31812939
>filename

>>31812939
I did all my time during the GWOT and got out, so I don't know how it is now. My time was very satisfying though. It was extremely varied in tasks, both in garrison and overseas, which probably made it much more interesting than many jobs which are the same shit every day. Especially in garrison, where there was actual work to be done on-post, helping police, and going for short trips TDY it meant you were never stagnantly bored.

I spent most of my time in "legacy" units which were 10-25 people total, including command and admin sections. With such small groups you became much tighter with everyone and felt more free to talk about problems or set up your own plans. You were treated like an adult and expected to be responsible in exchange for looser rules. Modern EOD vanilla units lost some of this and became a bit more Big Army in places like Ft. Bragg, but even so those units were 35-50 people large. Still very small and much tighter than a 300 man unit you find in most Big Army places.

Got a lot of training for cool stuff from shooting to diving to asymeteric warfare on the Army's dime, and plenty of fun assignments.

>>31799485
>it's in nobody's best interest to let your lower enlisted fuck each other up at will.
Watching officers fight is a different story.

File: america-hulk-hogan.jpg (345KB, 811x1080px) Image search: [Google]

345KB, 811x1080px

>>31800649
bruh, I drove through 1.5 hours of rain at 6AM to get to my ASTB test that I only began cramming for 3 days before, completely missed the cue to listen through my left ear on the active listening part, and ran out of time on the mechanical section because my mind was occupied by boobs. I got an 80/9/8/9.

The good news: most of the people taking these tests are retards, lowering the curve.
The bad news: you might be one of them.

>>31801678
>muh ADHD
Do they know which hospital gave you the meds? No, they don't. Keep your mouth shut and answer "no."
>implying hipaa waivers apply to canada

>>31814061
EOD is a cool guy. or was, at least. his utility might be called into question in a more conventional conflict, but total war isn't exactly looming large on the horizon, despite the sensationalism. our EOD guys were fucking awesome though. overworked as all hell traveling all over our brigade-sized AO bailing out infantry dicks so it took a long time for a reponse generally, but it's better than tossing frags at where you think the wire goes and hoping it blows without taking you with it.

>>31811114
That's women in general.

>>31812939
Fucking Marvin the EOD.

File: 1436388000617.png (240KB, 432x429px) Image search: [Google]

240KB, 432x429px

>>31806270
>are there any people in the military that like anime?

Sure, plenty.

At subschool, we talk about anime all of the time. It seems rarer to find someone who doesn't watch anime at all.

There's even a bunch of people who use 4chan.

>>31814819
Proof that the military has gone to shit
Stay away from the army, kiddos

>>31815308
tough guy pogue disagrees with your choice in entertainment

>>31815308
>How dare people have interests other than masturbation and alcohol.

File: image.gif (2MB, 320x172px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 320x172px

>>31815308
Like there are no rabid weaboos in the Marines.

File: Sick.jpg (12KB, 210x290px) Image search: [Google]

12KB, 210x290px

>>31815620
>Infantryfag has nothing to do all day other than watch anime and get his legs blown off by an IED
Really made me think

File: image.png (676KB, 980x549px) Image search: [Google]

676KB, 980x549px

>>31815666
Its the life

>>31815666
gimme that leg below the knee any day

How does the military know which hospital to check for medical records? Neither I nor my parents know the clinic where I got the ADHD meds as a teenager. I think she only had paper records and retired 5 years ago as well.

Thing is, I'm going for an intel officer position so they're going to check pretty thoroughly, but I honest to god don't know shit about this. I could just get a new insurance plan here and a new PCP (moved from another state a couple years ago for a job), then give them that?

>>31815882
how are they going to find it if you can't?

>>31814122
The modern battlefield will for the forseeable future be marked with the influences of asymmetric warfare. It's simply too valuable a tool to ignore. War between major forces will never be "fully conventional".

Trust me that the US is not behind the curve when it comes to IEDing people.

File: image.jpg (94KB, 805x768px) Image search: [Google]

94KB, 805x768px

Would I get more out of Infantry or EOD? I'm not an adrenaline junky; I just want to be a soldier that specializes in something sorta interesting. Bombs are very fucking interesting.

>>31815910
That's what I'm asking.

>>31815960
seems like you answered your own question.

that said, infantry isn't just HERE GUN GO WALK. infantry platoons are supposed to be at least nominally self-sufficient for their direct in-field necessities. as such you'll potentially have the opportunity to get in-depth knowledge of your trucks, radio equipment, EMT shit, etc.

if you want a big badge that says "I KNOW THINGS," well EOD has that. literally. you wear a big ass patch that says EOD on it.

>>31815964
If the only record of you ever having it was on paper from a clinic, then there's a 0% chance of anyone ever finding it

>>31815960
I'm biased, since I never did the infantry thing, but EOD was interested and varied. You can also push to go to a specialized unit like 24/7 SOF support, CBRN, or VIP. Normal units do a little bit of everything though. You can eventually move into a training or technical analysis or forensics type role down the road if that's your deal.

Other other hand infantry guys do get that fancy $0.03 worth of blue cord for being shit on.

More detailed questions are more answerable.

>>31815992
But couldn't they research the claims history of my health insurance provider? Then again, I'm in a new state now, so....

>>31816005
they could. you give them explicit permission to dig into your life when you sign.

>>31816016
They could, except I can't sign away permission to look at my mother's health insurance claims history. My current provider's history only goes back a few months (totally clean).

File: image.gif (3MB, 360x188px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 360x188px

>>31815989
I'm aware that Infantry isn't (mostly) made up of knuckle-draggers. I just feel like I'm doing something wrong if I don't try to get some special skills.

Big-ass bomb patches are a nice incentive as well.

>>31816037
Actually, I'm kind of a faggot, just asking questions, then answering them in my replies. I should just say "no" since I can't even find them if they asked, I wouldn't be able to verify it being true, which means I should say "no." Then, I can suck off dudes in the navy like I'm meant to.

Thanks for your time, gents.

>>31816037
then just tell them that you've lost track of it and can't track it down. integrity is key here, your meth addiction as a kid isn't going to be a limiting factor in anyone's mind.

>>31816078
or just lie about it too, if you haven't already told them. that is obviously an option

>>31816078
>>31816085
>your meth addiction as a kid isn't going to be a limiting factor in anyone's mind.
Well, it was ADHD, and I haven't been to MEPS yet. I mean, the only way to get caught is for them to find it, and I can't even manage that myself.

File: image.jpg (187KB, 1600x900px) Image search: [Google]

187KB, 1600x900px

>>31816001
Blue cord = pussy demolition served here.

The ladies know what I mean. *tips beret*

File: fam.jpg (79KB, 720x463px) Image search: [Google]

79KB, 720x463px

>>31816121
I'm very jealous of all your police calls and barracks inspections, I cannot lie.

File: image.gif (890KB, 500x281px) Image search: [Google]

890KB, 500x281px

>>31816210
Fucking brilliant.

>>31815932

You can say that, but it doesn't change the fact that they're making massive cuts to EOD numbers now that the wars have winded down.

File: image.jpg (65KB, 466x558px) Image search: [Google]

65KB, 466x558px

>>31816421
Your mom has winded down.

If I wanna be a cool guy doing cool shit, do I go for an Option 40 as an 11B or 18X?

>>31816491
you just go straight for infantry because you don't have what it takes -- you're gonna end up on a regular ass line unit anyway

>>31816526
What makes you say that? I mean, I know my previous post was pretentious, but I'm asking for real advice.

>>31816569
stay up for three days doing PT with no sleep then walk ~30 miles with 80 pounds on your back. if you can do that, you MIGHT get selected to continue on with SF training.

RASP is less intensive but even that is no walk in the park -- and that's not even ranger school. i don't know you and i don't know what your life has been like but there are guys with multiple deployments in great shape who just get their asses fucking handed to them by some of these courses.

these programs basically exist to feed over-confident civilians straight into the infantry after they fail out.

>>31816614
>these programs basically exist to feed over-confident civilians straight into the infantry after they fail out.

Daily reminder that failing out of 18X or Opt. 40 no longer guarantee that you will "fall back" into infantry. Infantry is way overmanned, so "needs of the Army" now means other MOSs.

File: 1476067509129.png (1MB, 750x1334px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 750x1334px

Im 25 and have a bachelors in a science field, have a govt job in which i make 50k a year.

I think im gonna enlist bros

>>31816683
didn't know this. my information is a little out of date, i've been out a while. but suffice to say that needs of the army is the quickest way into hating every minute of your life for every day for the duration of your 6 year active duty contract.

>>31816699

Unless you're married, it'll take you at least 3~ years to get back to where you are quality-of-life wise.

50k isn't much compared to mid-career enlisted compensation (or starting officer compensation), but being a single SPC will definitely be a quality of life hit.

>>31816811
>quality of life hit
this. it might seem like you make pennies enlisted but that's all disposable income. that said, living in the barracks sucks fucking DICK. any NCO who gets a hard dick can instantly come into the place where you live and fuck you up for any reason they see fit. doesn't matter if it's 3am on a weekend. doesn't matter, your ass is fucking theirs.

constant room inspections, loud ass retarded kids living away from mommy and daddy for hte first time going crazy, it's just not fun.

File: 1466192308195.png (840KB, 1291x533px) Image search: [Google]

840KB, 1291x533px

>>31816699
Same boat, dude. Fuck the desk life.

My sergeant told me that when he gets people with a 95+ ASVAB, a solid half want to go infantry. Says they know what they want to do and they'll know how to take advantage of their time in when they're done.

It'll be fun.

>>31816874
98 ASVAB former 11B here. can confirm :^)

minus the knowing how to take advantage part

File: image.jpg (47KB, 385x368px) Image search: [Google]

47KB, 385x368px

>>31816001
What's the washout rate with Army EOD? I hear horror stories all the time.

>>31816919

One of the highest washout rates of any school because it's got a mix of physical and academic aspects.

There are schools that are harder to pass physically, and there are schools that are harder to pass academically, but to be successful in EOD you need both.

So I've been thinking of going AF or Navy intel which would probably require a TS clearance. I decided to request my medical records independently to see what exists on paper for me and it doesn't look good at all. Obviously I'm planning to keep my mouth shut but will a TS background check be able to come across this stuff?

>>31816954
I plan on going in 2018 (when I graduate college) how can I be getting ready? I don't want to fuck this up.

>>31816959

There's pretty much nothing that can medically disqualify you for a Top Secret as long as its disclosed. That includes significant drug abuse and mental health problems. As long as it's not recent and you've got it under control, it doesn't matter unless you try to hide it.

>>31810123
That sounds righteous dude, thanks

>>31816919
There was an initial entry test conducted by individual units. It was essentially putting people in bomb suits and JSLIST and making them run around, and see how well they could follow instructions and do simple reasoning while under this duress. Lasts a couple of hours and was used to see if the EOD commander had confidence you were worth being sent to training.

After you get signed off for that, back in my day it was about 70% washout, give or take in the school itself.

A lot of that failure rate is frontloaded in the early sections. There are some people who simply can't handle holding live explosives comfortably, and they of course can't make it. The big hurdle in the school is the Mk2 .50 cal test. Once you're past that, the failure rate kind of tails off.

>>31816954
it should be as hard as the physical part of infantry training r-right?

>>31816959
The other thing to notice, is that the psychological section says "last seven years." was it just the fad shit adhd diagnosis more than 7 years ago? then you're clear.

>>31816977
Do cardio, learn to have good study habits, and brush up on being able to do basic arithmetic quickly in your head.

That's about it. I would absolutely not recommend trying to learn about ordnance from the internet to try and get a headstart. Most stuff online is wrong or presented without appropriate context or technical detail and the last thing you want is to have that mixed in with what you are learning.

>>31817023
It's very different. There aren't long ruckmarches or PT fuckfuck games. You are never specifically tested on anything physical in and of itself. The physicality comes from the training tests themselves. Wearing the bombsuit is tiring and claustrophobic, and unlike something like a ruckmarch, you can't just "zone out" and get through it, you have to be actively making choices and thinking at the same time. Similar with the JSLIST and SCBA sections.

There are also sections requiring you to use sledgehammers and pull ropes and such which can get tough when you need a straight head.

>>31817023

"Infantry training" is like 3 weeks tacked onto the end of BCT. The EOD pipeline is over a year long and takes place at several different posts. What do you think?

>>31817023
physical part of infantry training isn't actually that hard. biggest thing is just a 12 mile forced march. granted it's under actual, honest-to-god full combat load + full pack so it's actually pretty taxing, but still. now that i think about it, it was the most weight i'd carried at any point up until i deployed for real.

once you get to your unit the training is more frequent, but far less intense generally. you'll be doing gay ass forced marches to and from ranges and whenever your PL/PST/1SG/CO/BC/SGM gets a bug up his ass (which is obviously pretty often) but they're generally just vest + weapon or even just weapon + pack.

Yo i noticed some people interested in EOD just as me.
I'm really interested in Air Force EOD, what's the difference between other branches?

>>31816978
The issue is is that my conditions (peanut allergies that according to my record need an epipen) would almost certainly disqualify me, so I would need to hide it, hope for a waiver that will almost certainly not happen, or just give up the idea of joining altogether.

>>31817113
can't speak directly to the training, but our EOD group when we were deployed had members from all branches. air force and army EOD guys gave us a quick update on IED techniques half-way through deployment

>>31817135

What the fuck do peanut allergies have to do with a clearance? That's a complete non-issue for a Top Secret.

The military might care, but the clearance investigator won't (unless you're trying to hide shit).

>>31817135
there are peanut products in MRE's. there's a good reason a peanut allergy would be potentially disqualifying and it's irresponsible to not take that into account. that's not going to be something you're going to hide for very long either

>>31817113
The training is literally identical. It's all mixed branch training. You will often work in teams composed of multiple branch members for your tests.

Mission and unit wise, things are pretty similar. It's a small field and units will stay in contact across branches. Air Force generally does the same kinds of things while deployed. In the US they do less missions helping local police, simply due to being less numerous. They clean up on post ordnance and ranges and do political security details just like the army.

>>31817135
How bad are you for peanuts?

File: IMG_1198.jpg (78KB, 500x369px) Image search: [Google]

78KB, 500x369px

Hey /fit/ here, if I am already in pretty awesome shape and can max out every branches PT test no problem, will I stand a chance going to BUD/S or should I just join Army with an Airborne/Ranger contract and try to get SF eventually? I can do 3 miles in 17ish minutes, do push ups, sit ups and pull ups literally all fucking day and I'm a reasonably strong swimmer. If Trump wins I'm seriously considering quitting my job and dedicating 6 months to doing nothing but training for BUD/S and getting into even better shape. Anyone have any advice besides running/swimming a shit load and maybe doing some rucking? I'm planning on doing the recommended work out from the official site plus my normal routine which is pretty intensive in itself. Are there any insider tips someone with SF or even just infantry experience can give me for training? Anything I should study before I go like land nav or tactics or anything or should I just get in the best shape I can and go in empty headed? Am I already in good enough shape if I can max out the PFT? Should I focus more on mental/academic stuff?

File: 1462497873398.jpg (260KB, 1015x1527px) Image search: [Google]

260KB, 1015x1527px

What medical issues could completely bar someone from the airforce? I'm working with my recruiter to join up and took the asvab last week and did decently.

The problem is twofold being that I was diagnosed with childhood add/adhd and was medicated until i "grew out of it" at 18 (now 22), and also had non-invasive heart surgery (where they put a probe in your femoral artery to go zap something)

I'm stupid worried that despite checking out everywhere else they'll see me as a liability and knock out any chance of enlisting.

>>31817208
do a couple years in the infantry first. it's the smartest way to do things. you'll build up organically all the sklils you need and have them comfortably down instead of scrambling to put theory into practice under stress coming straight out of civvies. they'll take you more seriously as well.

>>31817208
Same guy, I also smoked a shit ton of weed in high school. I haven't done any sort of drug in years but will that bite me in the ass if I have a juvenile charge that I ended getting dropped? Will I be able to get a security clearance? Do I need one for SF/SEAL? I assume I do.

File: 1470545074423.gif (3MB, 714x396px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 714x396px

>>31817145
>>31817182
thanks for the info guys

>>31817161
I was reading some site about scare stories about lying to your recruiter. One of them was about some guy's friend who offhandedly mentioned some undisclosed hospital visit during background check interviews, so the investigator dug a little deeper for the records and the guy ended up discharged or something. In the example he was already enlisted so worst case scenario for me is I'd just be DQ'd but I'd still like to avoid that.

>>31817163
Currently I don't even think I'll make it that far in the first place.

>>31817190
Not particuarly bad, but my doctors didn't seem to think so and there's no reason the military would take my word over theirs.

>>31817301
if they don't find something and you don't tip them off inadvertantly, you're in and most likely going to stay that way. i lied my ass off in my interviews.
>never done drugs
i went to rehab for heroin when i was 15. done LSD and mushrooms more times than i can count, smoked weed daily up until about 3 months before i joined the army. no arrest record luckily. MEPS is the gatekeeper. if you can get past you're GENERALLY golden, unless you're actually hiding something that wil legitimately come back and bite you in the ass in a performance-affecting way.

>>31817355
Did you get a TS clearance?

>>31817438
just secret

>>31817249
Seems like sound advice and I was leaning that way. I always wanted to be a SEAL but if I could get into any sort of elite unit I would be happy. Would an 11b contract with a shot at Airborne and Ranger School be the way to go? With what I understand I can secure that in my contract if I push hard enough and if it isn't in my contract I might not get the chance.

>>31817453

You can get Airborne + RASP (not Ranger school directly) in your contract with option 40. Any MOS you're interested in w/ an option 40 is a good way to pipeline yourself into SOF.

>>31817451
That's mostly what I'm worried about. I think I could get a secret without too much trouble but a TS would sink me. But I don't know too much about the actual process so it's mostly gut feelings.

>>31817453
if you want to get into ranger battalion you're most likely going to need to go through RASP as a cherry civilian. i've seen people go to ranger school, but they just come back with a fancy new tab and start putting on airs. never seen anyone actually leave for the bat. keep in mind that if you fail out you're now needs of the army instead of pipelined into infantry so you will hate your life.

you can apply for selection at any time (IIRC, MAKE SURE YOURSELF) once you are actually in, from any MOS.

if your fitness is as good as you say it is, you probably have the level of fitness required to make it to bat straight out of civilians. just be aware that it's not just physical, the mental component is huge and it's impossible to predict how you'll react to it until you actually do it.

>>31817511
the actual process of what they do behind the scenes to determine security clearances is like black magic to me. lots of hearsay but i can't independently confirm anything. sorry

>>31801130
Combat Medic is an EMT-B that can do IV's. We could do a lot of shit above our scope really, but only because people tend to turn a blind eye to what Doc does on the line. Hospital units not so much. But all flight medics are Paramedics now, so you should be familiar with the scope already as long as you are nationally certified. The Army dgaf about state licenses.

Reminder if you aint infantry, you aint shit

>>31817834
post CIB

>>31817834

I'll remember that the next time ya need something. I'm messing with you. The infantry is the queen of battle and you guys are like my family, I take great pride in doing everything I can to give you guys the best service so that you can make it home safe.

>take asvab
>get told i can do 13F and get a 20k bonus

i-i didnt think this would happen, did i get lucky?

>>31817996
13F is a coolguy MOS. if you ever get to deploy you will 100% be accredited confirmed kills if you are attached to a line unit. the downside is if we ever get into a real war you're 100% going to be the person they look for to klil first

>>31818018
well EOD was a choice too i think, but im not insane enough for that

i think i need to take the asvab again at meps, should i be worried? i feel like i got lucky on the test, and got a bunch of easy questions

tldr i feel like im being a sperg over prolly nothing

>>31818099

You're good where you're at. Be a 13F for that bonus, it's like a 6 week AIT. And you get to kill people.

>>31818099
13F is probably more insane than EOD. EOD very rarely exposes themselves directly to explosives these days from what i can tell. a 13F is basically an infantry dick who needs to know how to call for fire like the back of his hand. that means knowing protocols, speaking with fires and close air support in real time and zeroing them in where you want them.

it's a big responsibility, you have the ability to fuck up and drop a 155 on yourself. if they think you're a shitbird in any way you'll be benched faster than you can blink

File: 1464374597135.gif (425KB, 300x300px) Image search: [Google]

425KB, 300x300px

>>31818249
o-oh boy

>>31809197
What exactly do you learn as a 3D0x2?

>>31818447

You'll be fine, my son. I believe in you.

one of you tards make a new thread

>>31818750
it's past my bedtime

>>31810123
This seems extremely random and specific, but I'm giving it a shot. To keep a long story short my dream job was to join the Army as 19K (tank fag) but I'm color blind and was denied.

Now I'm joining the Navy as an HM. If I go FMF, what are the odds that I can get assigned to some sort of armor division within the marines, or maybe ask for it?

>>31813165
Say if you come in as a specialist E4, how long will it take you to become an E5 or official NCO status?

>>31820314

2.5 to 8 years in the Army, depending on MOS.

>>31820314
Official stuff says 4 months TIG and 18 months TIS at the earliest, and with that you'll have to be highly qualified. Otherwise, twice the amount for each.

If I go into the Air Guard after serving a period of two years via the Palace Chase program, would I still get the full benefits of the Post-9/11 or Montgomery GI Bill?