Canada General - still RCMP edition

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>>31798207
>join our discord
is this an rcmp/csis honeypot?

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>>31798212
I just copy pasted the other bread with an image I googled.
>tfw stolen memes

>>31798207
What's a good price to pay for a Number 3 or 4 mk1 Lee Enfield?

>>31798409
totally depends on the condition

my buddy got one in very nice shape for 5 or 600 i can't remember now

has anyone ever ordered from SFRC?

i've paid and gave them my transfer info on friday but it still hasn't shipped as far as i can tell

>>31798212
>>31798389

No Citizen, we are not monitoring.

>>31798212
Mostly just a constant stream of shitposting. So here, but with usernames.

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>>31798468
haha you cant arrest a dead man!

>>31798560
Actually there is some good discussion. Def worth checking out.

apparently my transfer is still pending, it's been 3 days, in my previous experience those are always more or less instantaneous

>>31798423
I've bought from them in store before, they seemed pretty good.
>Also had all sorts of deact versions of prohib guns lining the wall.

>>31798586

>weed shirt
>grenade on a gold chain

Holy fuck

>>31798586
do you still work at tim hortons?

>>31798840
thats weed? i thought it was realtree
>>31798889
haha no i quit more than a year ago fuck that kind of work to death, it made me hate teenagers, Australians, old people, Australians, and Filipinos to a degree.

>>31799148
did you find a better line of work?

also are you so skinny because working at tim hortons made you hate food?

>>31798586
level with us here: your Valmet is too heavy for you to comfortably innawoods with, just admit it, we won't judge

>>31799148
>Australians
fuckin' bogan cunts!

>>31798207

This thread is already going to shit.

Noguns here, should I buy an Stg 44 in .22lr?
And how much should I expect to pay for it?

Does anyone else here have one?

>>31799205
>Noguns here, should I buy an Stg 44 in .22lr?
as your first gun, absolutely not, it's a meme novelty

get some practical guns before memes

i believe they go for $600~

>>31799290

How is it not practical? It's chambered in .22lr. It's good practice to prevent flinching and it looks like a he'll of a lot of fun. I'm not going to buy some savage arms bullshit

>>31799320
expensive, heavy, less reliable, magazines are expensive and hard to find, cleaning/stripping is probably a pain, sights aren't great

you could get other .22s that would perform better for half the price

>>31799290
This.

I bought a GSG-5 as my first .22 auto rifle, watched it basically fall apart in my hands after about 1500 rounds, and traded it for a 10/22.

.22 versions of guns are 99% junk

>>31799156
ive said before i just absorb nutrients out of the air hense why im a "trevor alien"
>>31799165
its doesn't really matter when i carry multiple guns, it definitely sucks to run with over rough terrain but it gets me out there and moving and its a great way to stay in shape

>>31799205
The STG is a meme. Its almost as bad as the "chainsaw" shotgun.

Grab SKS/Ruger 10/22

>>31799799
>799799
dubsception

>>31799462
Just stop posting an eat a sandwich Mr. tripfag

>>31799462
I guess it's technically a dmr anyway. have you tried weighing it? what is it unloaded?

>desu I'm just jelly of Valmetfags :'(
at least you are cool and go innawoods and shootan with it, most people who own it now are fat old range faggots that have too much money and just own it for bragging sake, while it collects dust in the safe

still surprised you were able to find a NOS Valmet at a decent price, what Burger sites are good to scour for it? who did you import through?
>time to learn Finnish and find "Finnish Knitting and Shooting Exchange"

>>31798423
I bought ammo from them before. Breddy gud service tbqh

>you're crazy tok guy
>meet girl online
>go to meet her
>it's actually the creep catchers and they are being hostile
>"yer dun bud! we have the chat logs!"

what do you do?

>>31800696
If you aren't a retard pedophile, just tell them to press charges if they really think it'll stick, otherwise ignore them.

Is it even worth it to invest in a reloading kit if I'm only going to be using 7.62x39, 9mm, .22lr, and possibly .223 in the foreseeable future?

>>31801096
>they can't press charges because there's no one to press charges
>that's not what pedophile means
>they often mislead the person by having a proper age on the profile and only cryptically implying they may be underage
>all the creep catchers are insane convicts and degenerate criminals

>>31801254
Then just ignore them, they're powerless.

>>31800696

>pull out Tok
>shoot
>run away, dispose of Tok
>get new Tok

>>31799320
You could get something in .223/5.56- low recoil for practice, reasonably cheap ammo (admittedly not as cheap as .22lr), and it will "grow" with you a bit better.

>>31799205

200$ SKS + 330$ 1500 rounds of Chinese Surplus.

Done.

>>31801246
Reloading insist as cheap as you might think. I'd only look into it when you started shooting hunting/precision rifles.

>>31801246
>7.62x39
You can't reload surplus cases; the metallurgy is totally different.

You could reload commercial brass, though. The only way this would be worth it is if the world's supply of x39 has finally run dry, and the only thing that's left is commercial ammunition.

>9mm
Shit's so cheap that reloading it is almost a waste of time.

>.22lr
Can't reload rimfire.

>.223
See 9mm.

I would only reload if you're dealing with obscure or expensive calibers.

>>31802059
Reloading x39 is shitty even with brass case because the sks throws them far and usually dents them pretty good

The lock on my stack-on broke with the key in it. I could open/close the cabinet but couldn't get the key out. I took it apart from the inside, and it just fell apart in my hands, a few broken pieces.

I emailed customer service and they mailed out a lock to me without any hassles, just wanted my key number. Hopefully it shows up quickly though.

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Anyone build a vz61?
Anyone buy a vz61
Anyone buy a vz61 kit ?
Vz61 vz61 vz61

>>31802059
I can't speak for other parts of the country but where I live the cheapest brass-cased .223 is still 65 cents a round, whereas I've heard claims of people reloading the caliber for as little as 20 cents per round.

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>>31802410
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>>31800696
>Pull out my folder of explicit hand-holding images
>Yell "YOU CAUGHT ME,TAKE ME IN,I'M A MENACE TO SOCIETY" as I drop the folder at their feet
>Shoot them as they recoil in disgust
>
>23 Skidooooooooo

Ever since Facebook started acting like total cunts, where should I go to sell guns? My LGS has a gun I want, I want to sell a couple things, and CGN takes fucking forever.

>>31802786

>CGN takes forever

post pics and a reasonable price. I moved my 10/22 in a few days.

>>31802538
i dont use tunneling guides only skyseers wanting to destroy us do.

>>31803235
Any Edmonton anons here? Can I just post it here?

>>31802483
I do 223 at 24c per at the cheapest. If i was to drop quality on primers and bullets i might be able to get it down to 20c. The most expensive thing for me is just the time it takes as i use a single stage.

>>31803918
What brands do you use for components?

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Is it worth buying corrosive 7.62 x 39? It's so cheap but I don't want to have to clean my gun after every single trip.

>>31804010
depends how much you shoot I guess.

>>31804010
After shooting cheap corrosive ammo:
>pour hot water down barrel and gas system
>wipe everything with oil

Takes all of 3 minutes to negate the corrosive residue.

>>31803973
205m primers varget and the leads depend on what im doing uaually some flavor of hornady or nosler (berger in 308 and 243 though)

I was just directed here for rifle advice. What can I get with my non restricted license for end of world shit right now.

Is crappy tire SKS and as much ammo as I can afford my best bet?

>>31801883
Clean your gun after each use.

>>31804842
check pastebin.

>>31804842
Well, what's your budget, Anon?

>>31804919


I've never used pastebin. Any tips?

>>31804942


$500 or under for immediate so I can buy a good quantity of ammo.

I have a ruger American hunting rifle and a 12 gauge for home defense. I know it's not much but it's better than nothing.

Wife is on board.

>>31804942


Cheaper is always better. This is myu first in case shit weapon. I can get better if it doesn't hit the fan like /pol/ keeps making me think it is.

I figure if it's going to happen it will be soon.

>>31804983
>>31805008
SKS is a fine option. Inspect it before you buy, and enjoy.

>>31805030


Great first thought is the right one.

Cheap and plenty of ammo. I know the range doesn't like the authentic ammo but there is a shit load of nothing out here.

Thanks! Here's some titties.

>>31805080
blue board m8,you gon get a ban.

>>31805008
>/pol/
First of all do yourself a favour and stop listening to everything those faggots proclaim. There's not going to be any form of 'race war' or whatever any time soon, here or elsewhere. That being said it's not a bad idea to have an innawoods gun for general hunting, plinking etc anyways, and for that purpose an SKS and a few crates of ammo would be my pick. Shoot it stock for a while and then figure out what you want to do with it, heaven forbid you feel like dressing it up in tapco. Either that or save up for a VZ if you get bitten by the tactical bug.

Whoops.

I'd delete it if I can figure it out.

>>31805174
Click the check box beside "anonymous", then scroll to the bottom of the board. Click on the check box beside "file only", then click delete.

>>31805158


Not a race war. A nuclear war with Russia. We are closer than we have been since the cuban missile crisis.

It's been a long time since the last major conflict. This time we will not miss out.

>>31805198


Thanks. I've never had to do that before. Something new learnt today.

>>31804983
SKS, then. Or a Norc AR, if you burn a little bit more.

Where in Canada can I get some inexpensive foam for a gun case? Canadian Tire has those foam squares for tools and Fabricland has some super expensive foam but I don't know where else to look.

>>31804954
Copy and paste it in your url bar. What the fuck? It's in url.

>>31805201

Here's a little secret buddy boy. The only way something like that would ever happen would be if a few people were able to make +$10 billion

>>31805764

Maybe look in camping gear for a cheap foam mattress for tenting?

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are Norc ARs done?

CanAm is going to be making their next batch of DA with some American company and every other dealer that used to sell them is out
>
those 20" Vietnam era replicas are the only Norc ARs CanAm has left and they're trying to blow them out every sale to make room for their new shit

>>31805894
or you know, boy buddy, the whole "look, after the Second one we tried UN, but clearly that was too little -- we NEED one world government to ensure this never happens again" might be enough

I mean, who needs billions when you and your friends are literally the rulers of the world?

>>31792381
Possible but not cheap, and since Mossberg already sells barrel + multiple choke kits (for the 500, with which I'm assuming the 400g is compatible), there are probably more affordable options out there.

>>31798409
Are Enfield only available through private sellers? Never see retailers, both big or small, have them.

>>31802761
BLUE BOARD

Whats a good tacticool .22 I should get. Preferably with somewhat of a high capacity/use of drums, or can you even do that anymore

>>31806576
>Preferably with somewhat of a high capacity/use of drums

Pretty much your only option is a 10/22, which if you go by what the RCMP says, can't have more than 10 rounds in a magazine. That being said I don't think anyone is paying heed to their opinion, at least none of the shops around here have stopped selling 'high capacity' mags and all that.

Anyone else here a SIG/FAMAE fanboy?

>>31806670
>FAMAE
About $3000 too expensive if you ask me. Wish I had my license when the Classic Greens weren't as cost prohibitive.

>>31804954
Hahahahahahaha

>>31806635
Wait what?? Since when is .22 restricted to 10 rounds a mag? What the fuck?

>>31806801
When Ruger made a pistol that uses the >10 round mags

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>>31798207
should i get pic related? guy says he will consider trades for nr black rifles. its a thor xm408 in .408 cheytac

>>31806833

Do it and build a 2000m range in your tunnels.

>>31806277
>muh globalist conspiracy
Yeah because that's so likely. It would have almost made more sense if you had said you wanted guns for a race war.

>>31806833
Do you reload? Do you got another few thousand for a scope? (Or have a spare sxope to put on it)

Probably to expensive to feed bud. Get a steyr hs50 lf you have a desire for big bore.

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>>31807029
>implying implications
pic related kek
i also asked a guy if hed trade his steyr hsm1

>>31798207
anyone else remember when all those abortion doctors that were sniped by a guy using an sks in the 90s?

>>31807041
Do you have somewhere 1400m + to make it all worth it? Because if you do ill be there for a meet up next summer, even if there is no 408.

Also at 26 lbs before scope and 48 inches when its collapsed its not exactly a haul arpund in the bust gun....

Does kelowna have decent ranges that allow steel core for non members/crown land close by (crown land is better)

>>31806725
I bit and bought an SG542. Couldn't help myself, closest gun to a G3 or FAL. Seems like the price isn't going down anytime soon, and the mags are pretty costly ($120+ for the 542 mags).

Hell it's fun to shoot though lol.

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Anyone know i can mount a bayonet to a Canuck Defender 12 gauge?

It has basically no room up front, i'm thinking clamps on the tube mag plug.

whats the point of even buying guns in canada? the available selection is shit and you're not allowed to take anything anywhere and you'll get prosecuted for defending yourself if the situation arises.

>>31807209
for killing police

>>31807209
>The available selection is shit
>what are non American imports?

>You're not allowed to take anything anywhere
Just put in your car and go. Unless restricted.

Only thing right on is self defense, otherwise low quality B8.

>>31806887

If I told you the EU wanted its own military, what would you say?

>>31799205
Get an SKS as your first gun won't regret it

>>31807188

Might be easier to just replace the magazine end cap.

>>31804954
Looooooooooool

>>31807621

Plz spoonfeed me on how to be spoonfed.

>>31807132
Hey man I grew up in Penticton how's it going?

>>31807626
I've never spoon-fed someone before. Any tips?

>>31802059
you can reload steel cases a couple times

use carbide dies

>>31802059
>cant reload rimfire
only if you're under the age of 75

>>31806887
>there are no groups conspiring to erode sovereignty and grow the influence of international agencies accountable to nobody
>the WTO, TPP, EU, TPIP, etc do not exist and/or do not erode sovereignty in favour of more uniform profits
I bet you still believe in santa claus

>muh "too many people would need to be in on it" argument
how many people are conspiring to keep Robert Mugabe in power? not many, but it's enough.

>>31807188
I'd clamp a bayonet lug onto the barrel and use a Glock 81 mounted sideways. Putting it underneath would interfere with the pumping.

>>31808083

I've seen people pull the bullet, empty the cartridge, refill it with a measured amount of powder and reseat the bullet, but I've never seen someone reprime one.

Not that there's much point with most modern rimfire rounds.

>>31808194
you can buy .32 RF cases designed for reloading

commercial .22 LR can be reloaded in a pinch but it's lame and unreliable

>>31806887
grow up

Which rail system is best for a simple red dot on a Vz58 while I get the side rail fixed? Magwedge rail, scout rail or upper handguard rail?

>>31809252
Gun is fine.

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>>31809252
NEA hand guard

>>31806384
They're surplus that have been around so long there are no stocks of them. The odd time a store will get one in as a second hand thing, but that's it.

>>31809324

Where did you get that one?

>>31807647
pretend it's an airplane, works every time

>>31809424
>>31809424
I bought it a few years ago from SFRC. NEA makes them in batches and the distributers are running dry right now.

>>31809926

How much did that cost? There's an aluminum one at Corwin but that's 97$.

>>31805201
Good, I've been getting Hella blue balls

>>31809965
I think it was $80-$90.

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any of you guys ship gun stuff to rental mailboxes in the US?

everything is outrageously expensive here. even after service fee, currency conversion, NYS sales tax, a set of Troy sights is $100 cheaper.

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>tfw too intelligent to buy a type 97

>>31798586
>mfw the plastic bits that hold the spoon on my grenade broke off.
I lost the pin too, because I was a kid and I'd actually use the thing when playing war with my friends, but those are easy to find.

>>31807093
No, so let's hope it stays that way.

>>31807594
I'd say what exactly do they mean by "their own military"? If it's basically an EU version of UN blue-helmets then no big deal. If it's some big military alliance like NATO then maybe. If it's a separate standing force completely divorced from the ruling bodies of the nations that contribute soldiers to it, then fuck no.

>>31808139
Look, the 'vast librul conspiracy' is not going to start a war that kills a billion people just to 'trick' everyone into accepting their one-world government.

Also, need I point out that if it was democratic in nature, and had a fucking constitution to ensure people's rights, there's nothing that wrong with a 'one-world government'. Not to mention that when the subject is modified slightly so that the 'one world government' is America, a lot more people jump right on the bandwagon.

>>31810505
Soros pls go and stay go.
You can not unite the disparate cultures of the world under one world government for the same reason Quebec wants special treatment.

Fuck off and die globalist.

>>31810389

Nothing super special about it. Ammo ain't cheap compared to just getting a Vz58 with some surplus ammo.

>>31809324

What kind of paint did you use?

>>31803833
Edmontonfag here

>>31809965
Get the corwin one, or get one of the incoming Bonesteel arms ones irunguns will be bringing in. I have one is those and it's great. The set screws tighten it up to maintain zero really well.

>>31810170
Yeah I've done it, but you have to be 100% sure that what you're bringing in is legal to export from the US and legal for import to Canada. Be upfront and honest and don't complain when they ask to search your vehicle.

>>31811133
There isn't much that's illegal to import into Canada, except prohib guns, prohib mags, and explosive ammo. We don't have any accessory bans.

>>31811336
It's true that 90% of the trouble is on the US side, it's still worth noting imho. Also the updated ITAR is a bitch, and restricts a while lot more than it did pre-2013.

>>31811810
>the updated ITAR is a bitch
it's not that bad, i did it recently, you can pretty much just write whatever in it

Who here shouldn't be allowed to handle money?

Now I know why drug addicts are always broke.

>>31810505
>there's nothing wrong with a one world government, in fact it would be good!
>but nobody is planning to create a one world government, that's crazy talk
double plus goodthink there, comrade

>>31813292
I used to be bad with money when I was making a decent wage. Surprisingly now that I'm making $2.50 less I have more money saved than ever before. Can't wait to be a haz guns next year.

>>31813292
>>31813343
>oh my, I have all this money coming in
>it won't matter if I spend 3000 dollars on guns, I'll make it back in two weeks!
repeat every two weeks

this is the best, most heavily armed kind of hell

>>31813292
it's only bad if you buy literal garbage like norinco, or your collection adheres to quantity over quality (anyone with more than 1 sks)

>>31813447
what's wrong with having more than one sks?

our options for guns are extremely limited in canada, so people having more than one to split the wearing out kinda makes sense, especially considering how quickly the price of skses is going up

>>31813292
>I could pay off my student loans
>BUT WHAT IF Trudeau bans guns

>>31813447
ive 3 svts and 4 sks's incase i have to arm 7 people in a jiff

>>31813462
>what's wrong with having more than one sks?
in theory, nothing.

but if you have a collection of say, 5 rifles, and that looks something like type 97, keltec w/e, & sks x3, then it sort of looks like you have a problem with saving up money to buy something of reputable quality. anyone who says they don't care about handguns or they don't want an AR15 shouldn't be allowed to have a license.

>>31813498
That's why I bought an SVT-40, and I'm really resisting buying an SKS.

>>31813507
>anyone who says they don't care about handguns or they don't want an AR15
this is ridiculous

a lot of people have no interest in firing ranges and i don't blame them, going to the range is about 5% as fun as shooting innawoods

also a lot of places don't even have a decent range

as far as non restricted guns go there's not many options

>>31810505
>Also, need I point out that if it was democratic in nature, and had a fucking constitution to ensure people's rights, there's nothing that wrong with a 'one-world government'.

I want you to stop and think about why what you said was retarded.

>>31813391
The worst is when people do the

>really poor need cheap gun
$200 sks
>Omg friend has tacticle stock
$150 stock
>omg magazines need 5
$150s on mags
>omg needs scope
$100 mount, $400 optic

And they just keep dumping money into a $200 gub

>>31813537
Every gun owner should own an AR-15 for the same reason gun rights are enshrined in the American constitution.

So a tyrannical government can't fuck your ass.

>>31813507
why should I give a shit if stuffy cunts think my guns are "quality"?
my sks has a chrome bore and shoots 1 moa in a vice. it's overbuilt as hell and has no issues cycling. the only thing wrong with the rifle is the shitty plug in the magazine.

type 97s are a gamble and have horrid ergonomics, I can't stand them but I wish I could

kel-tec is fine and you're literally a snob if you don't like kel-tec guns. The SU-16 is underbuilt and needs a redesign, but all their other guns are good.

I want AR-15s but I don't like registering rifles. Handguns are super fun and plenty of fun guns can be had for little money. High end bling handguns cost the same as "entry level" new production rifles like the Vz. 58 or Type 97. Reliable and accurate pistols can be bought for the price of an SKS or Mosin Nagant.

you're like one of those people who buys macs or alienware computers believing that spending more for hardware with the same specs means it's better quality. if it goes bang every time, puts the bullet on target and fits in the hand it's a quality gun.

>>31813736
$1000 for a reliable semi-automatic rifle with 5 ten round magazines, a folding stock and an optic. I challenge you to find a less expensive weapon with equal or greater functionality. If he started with a Vz. 58 he'd have blown the budget before buying any accessories, and a SCAR costs three times the budget. Most of the "tactical" stocks and optic mounting options for the SKS are garbage though.

>>31813764

gun lobbyist pls

>>31813846
>you're like one of those people...
na. I build my own pcs, and I don't go poorfag mode on those either.

the irony with the example you use is that being content with cheap guns because "they're good enough" yet passively hating things that are more expensive+functionally superior is the exact same mentality people have when they rationalise being a console gamer or buying a prebuilt pc.

sks are fun because they are cheap, and the ammo is cheap. there is little to no justification for spending hundreds of dollars ie. >>31813736 to rice one out, or for buying multiples "just because you can". if you do, you're a retard, but feel free to continue, just because you can. also, nuggets are shit svts are shit. keltecs have never been not shit. chinkshit adheres loyally to its name.

with your response to >>31813736, you show you're still oblivious to the concept of saving money for nice things and instead you're the kind of guy that would dump $10000 of 'upgrades' into a 1995 civic.

Noguns noob without a PAL here, and I have a stupid question

Should I a flintlock?

Cabela's sells them for less than $600 Trudollars, I wouldn't need a PAL (and I'm not sure I want to be on a federal list of gun owners because I don't trust them), the storage and handling regulations are much simpler and less harsh...From what I've read, other than the obvious issues with being a muzzle loader; a flintlock seems good for a SHTF gun. Since I live in BC I'm in the risk zone for a mega quake and would like a way to hunt if everything goes to shit.

>>31814127
only if you want a $600 paperweight

>>31814170
But it can accelerate a chunk of lead to a goodly few hundred joules which is 90% of the point of a firearm

>>31814170
>smokeless powder repeating fag detected
>>31814127
black powder is fun as hell but has a learning curve, fuck cabelas, linked site has much better selection of blackpowder guns, they just require the flash hole to be drilled out before you can use them, i suggest a blunderbuss so you can get ammo for it at the dollar store, well "shot" cause its essentially a massive shotgun

>>31814240
forgot link
>http://www.militaryheritage.com/muskets.htm

>>31814127
You could get an antique cartridge rifle or revolver, and learn to reload. That would be a more reliable firearm for SHTF hunting/self-defense. PS Militaria has a bunch of Remington Rolling Block rifles in .50-70, which is easy to reload for (blackpowder only).

>>31814127
>>31814224
>>31814240
what you want is a friend who owns one, because it really is only fun the first time.

not worth the hassle/cost of learning to clean/load/maintain. for that same amount of money you can get your RPAL and buy an SKS.

>>31814077
some of your arguments are true, however the main reason people don't buy ARs is because they prefer shooting innawoods or ranges are not even an option

as far as non restricteds go the high end options are rip offs (tavor, xcr, swiss, acr)

so i can understand why a guy would rather just buy a few SKS's he can split the wear on that will last him many years of shooting

>>31814077
what are good guns you suggest people buy?

>>31814319
sounds like you're just poor and impatient. or you simply dont like blackpower, but you shouldn't discourage others from getting into it

>>31814127

muzzle loaders are fun as fuck to shoot but nigger, get a PAL and buy some real guns

>>31814339
guy in question did not justify the hypothesised shitty collection with any constraints related to shooting locations. it's a fair argument until you call something like the SG 550 a rip off. you have you accept the reality of the "non-restricted tax" or else you're not allowed to use the AR15's restricted status as a reason against owning one.

unless you live in the GTA, I won't believe anyone who says they don't have any decent ranges around.

>>31799451
I actually own one.
>expensive
Yes
>heavy
Fuck yes, its a 9lb .22
>less reliable
My gun is reliable as hell with shitty winchester M22.
>magazines hard to find
Both cabelas and my lgs stock them, although they are a tad expensive
>cleaning/stripping is probably a pain
Its much easier than my marlin 795. No tools required and I can clean from the breach end.
>sights aren't great
I like them, but thats just my opinion

I still agree it is very impractical as a 9lb .22, but I thought I would clear up any misconseptions.

>>31814384
I'm neither, and don't care for blackpower because I've had the opportunity to try it, not at my expense, and that's what I base my advice off of. what you're doing is worse; essentially giving validity to his paranoia and missing an opportunity to bring another canadian into the fold of licensed gun owners.

My LGS owner won't shut up about this vague notion of SOMETHIN'S COMIN' DOWN THE PIPE TRUDEAU GONNA FUCK US. Is this true, or is he just trying to get me to buy crap?

Also, thoughts on Norinco CQ-As?

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>>31814600
>Norinco

>>31814498
ranges in general are shit though compared to the freedom of shooting innawoods

being around that many people and the hectic nature of it, ROs running around watching you like a hawk, it doesn't make for that enjoyable of an experience

waiting forever for target changes is awful too

as far as the "non restricted tax" a lot of people are simply not willing to spend $3500+ on a gun, that's not justifiable to most people unless they make a lot of money, or have no responsibilities/live with thier parents/no kids etc, so it's not surprising people opt to buy a few cheap surplus rifles instead

>>31814383
pls respond, i'm genuinely curious

>>31814643
whats the deal with shooting innawoods up here? im noPAL BC and i have no idea what the rules and where you can shoot innawoods

>>31814682
in BC you can basically shoot anywhere in the woods since the province is like 99% crown land

>>31814600
Norc ARs are pretty damn good these days. Their 1911s and SiG clones are, too.

>>31814682
Make sure you're some hundreds of metres away from public roads, make sure you're not in a designated no-shoot zone or provincial park, and just remember to shoot safely (make sure you know what's beyond your target, shoot towards an appropriate backstop, and all that)

>>31814600
Trudeau doesn't really give a shit one way or the other, which is part of the problem. He'll just let the RCMP have its way. On CGN, there are various rumors that have varying degrees of credibility on what is going to happen. Given the 10/22 and Beowulf mag decisions, I think it's safe to say that it will involve more rules around mags.

Keep an eye for December 6th, that's the date we need to worry about.

>>31814383
>>31814658
first gun? buy a russian sks. one should be enough, autists will tell you otherwise.

after that, just save up and buy what ever handgun you've always wanted. glock, HK, FN, S&W, whatever. handguns are fun. there's no way there isn't one you'd want.

third purchase for me was a AR15. some people like to build their own, ordering part by part. I can see the fun in that but the cost-saving incentive to do so isn't there for us like there is for americans. I bought a daniel defense mk18. I considered buying a sg550 or a valmet as well, it was mainly a preference thing and I don't limit myself to shooting innawoods. At this point you'd do well to get any rifle significantly above the quality of old russian surplus/chinkshit/low budget brands. It's good to have high standards, so set them early.

>>31814841
W-whats happening December 6?

>>31815026
>We might get butfucked on my birthday
Yaaaaaaaaay....

>>31813507

r8 my collection so far

>Remington 700 .223 w/ Vortex Viper
>Russian SKS
>Remington 870 12 gauge in classic wood
>Beretta 92FS

>>31815026
Anniversary of a """"mass"""" shooting that happened before most of us were even born.

>>31808083
.22LR, which is the only rimfire round I would ever consider, is somewhere between 8 to 13 cents per round. No amount of time is worth spending reloading that shit. I'm a cheapskate at times, but I'm not a fucking Indian.

>>31815026
>>31815077

Happy Weeping and candles day!

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>>31815086
bretty good

love the aesthetic of a 870 with wood. I've no need for a shotgun but I reckon I'll get one eventually anyways.

a sense of urgency will drive my purchases for a few years. bolt/pump guns are least likely to be fucked with.

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>>31815241
I wish a distributor would pick up the Ithaca M37 up here. I want one tricked out just like a classic police shotgun. It would probably be too expensive for our market in general.

>>31815301
you can slam fire those cant you? would slam firing break any laws up in canada?

>>31814643
Wait, where I am I can just book range time at a DNR range, for free (aside from the $9 I had to pay to get a WRC), and I'll be the only one there for the hour.

Is this not normal?

>>31815335
Only the older ones- the newer ones have a trigger disconnect.

I don't know if slamfire is against the law, but they haven't tried to ban pumps that can do it.

>>31815381
membership at Silverdale, probably the most popular range in Ontario, is $300/yr. You must pay them an addition $80 for a 'club level handgun safety course' for the privilege of being able to shoot your restricted's. then come rules like mandatory eye protection, no rapid fire (2+ seconds between shots minimum), etc.

it gets better the farther away from the GTA you go, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't get worse.

>>31815335
>would slam firing break any laws up in canada?
The short answer is "no," but not for a lack of trying.

>tfw they almost banned the SKS because some shithead bought one at Canadian Tire, forgot to clean the cosmoline out of the action, and the firing pin stuck out
>this idiot actually reported this to the RCMP

>>31813764

But why tho? They're registered and if they come for it then they know exactly who has them.

>>31815241

>bolt/pump guns are least likely to be fucked with.

Agreed. I'm glad I got the Beretta but I'm really more interested in NR stuff going forward. Not really sure what to get next, probably something in a big fuck you calibre.

>>31815659
strength in numbers, 80% lowers, etc.

>>31815659

The more voting, law abiding citizens that have $1k+ sunk into the AR platform, the harder it is politically for that group to be cucked by horsecock.

>>31815513

Went there as a non member, it ain't that bad, I see myself being a member in the future.

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>>31806384
Id recommend getting one at a gun show, the Orangeville gun show is where i go, got an sks there in sept

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>>31815513
>>31815738
>no standing allowed

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>>31814600
mine works fine

china tier finish but no issues otherwise

where can I get one of those rubber pin blocks?

>>31815881
Is it true some crap isn't milspec?

>>31815966
100% chinkspec

For my next purchase, I was considering either an fn fnx45 or the ruger ar 556

I can't decide

>>31815966
It fits all mil-spec stuff, but it may be loose or stiff. Tolerances are questionable.

>>31815809

Well do you recommend a range that has multiple distances? All clubs have their ups and downs.

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Can I just have my photo guarantor sign the back of my photo that I supply? I'm applying for a PAL and everything I've done with these forms I've fucked up on, I've already had to print new forms because I've fucked the old ones so badly and now, long story short, the envelope I was supported to send the forms in with are now attached to the "Photo Guarantor" sticker.

I feel like I belong in an infomercial.

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>>31814600
gets responses

>>31806245
nobody replies

what good is it to know if Norc ARs are good or bad if there won't be any more of them?

>>31806245
I got a Norc A1. It stove-piped on me the first time I took it out. Hopefully just the shit mags and bare-steel ammo.

So who else is ready for America civil war 2? That or UN invasion time.

>>31816360

Porque no los dos?

>>31816360
nothings going to happen the worlds not end things are better than ever people have being saying the end is here for generations just live youre life and keep going to work following the law no matter what and always pay taxes, etc etc

>>31816407
>>31816420
Yeah I suppose >RCMP and whatnot. Regardless, these next few months will be extremely interesting for us.

>>31816455
i wouldnt worry

>>31816455

Front row seats, man.

>>31813391
Can relate. Just bought 2600$ Sako Bavarian.

>Then I go and get a Leopold vx2 (another 400$)
>Mounts and rings are another 200$.
>Tell myself i'm gonna stop.
>bought a no4 mk 1 longbranch today.

Someone stop me

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>Tfw LGS has a chink AR with ACOG for sale-only $1200
>Consignment
>Rifle looks pretty damn good
>Owner says the optic is real
>Really don't want to get burned, though
Fuck.

>>31816570
I'd be wary.
>>31816509
Its a curse.

>>31816462
just checking if you missed the questions here >>31800216
or just didn't want to answer
>le you are my only hope Moleman-Wan

>>31807278
No its not canada gun culture sucks.

>>31816509
>Someone stop me
I'll let you know if I can even stop myself. Good luck though friend-o.

>>31816570
Chink ARs are like 500 maple pesos new, used should be lower than that
ACOG is how much? is it like Eotech, around 500-600? used should be a bit less, shouldn't it?
seems like a ripoff, famalam
>t. frugal jew

>>31817230
Used ACOGs are like 900, according to CGN guys trying to sell them.

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>>31815809
this is pretty shit
don't they have some 3-gun competition part of the range or others where you can stand, or is it all sittin' fudds?
>would you be allowed to shoot from a kneeling position on the ground next to the bench, a-la picrelated?

>>31817324
at my old range proneshooting was banned at any range cause you could hit the ground and kill someone so it has to be done from a table, also the 300m range was closed pretty much indefinitely cause the rcmp wouldn't approve it yet cause your bullets could ricochets and kill someone at that distance or some bullshit. i stopped going after they put IR cams in and raised the guest fee and memership, last time i was there a fudd yelled at us and my dad cause we were all shooting at the same time

>>31817404
>rcmp
CFO* but the rcmp probably have some role in it, they did get the spruce grove range closed by being idiots and shooting over the berm

>>31817309
huh.. ok, I'll admit I have no idea what a fair price of a used ACOG is

although there are people on EE who want $1500-1600 for a used VZ while stores have new ones for $1200-1300. CGN is the home for delusional pricing if anything

>>31798423
I bought a nugget off them a couple years ago, slow as fuck updating the shipping info. Got to my place up in simcoe county in a couple weeks.

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>>31817404
IR cams? what would those be for?
>people shooting at the same time is bad
isn't that like the definition of a gun range?

seriously all these stories of fudds yelling at people have me confused. like, what does that look like, just dude in another stall screaming at you? walking over and trying to intimidate you? trying to convince you something he just came up with is a rule? I'd think people would be more courteous and polite at a place where everyone is armed.
and how do you respond?
I think I'd just look at him and keep doing my thing
>DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO! YOU'RE NOT MY RANGE OFFICER!!!

>>31817563
>walking over and trying to intimidate you?

I don't get this. We've all got fucking guns, don't try to be a tough guy.

>>31817594
that's what I'm trying to figure out, you have to admit there are a lot of stories of confrontational fudds and since I have never encountered that myself I want to know what it looks like. I'd think a gun range would be the last place anyone should try to impose their views on anyone else, but what do I know

wadda wukka wukka turd o

>>31817324

You can kneel and shoot.

M10X when?

>>31819216
Never, going to be prohibited based on its relation to the AK platform

>>31815695
You're >>31815086 right? Get a .308 man they're fucking fun as hell and very practical.

>>31815086
Isnt yours in laminate vi2?

>>31815595
Theres actually a certain style of sear that is no longer being imported. When that happened the rcmp put out a notice and the fuddtastic fudd that was in charge of loss prevention and firearm policy made us go through the 90 we had in stock and pop the triggers out 1 by 1 and check which style sear the gun had. The guns with the qrong sear went back to the importer (sterling cross iirc at that time) who re exportes them.

Fun fact, the sks's that we have in canada are grade A (or supergrade depending on the importer) most of the b's go to 2nd world countries and the c's go to shitholes. When an inporter buys a lot they actually sort them then get them shipped over here. Lots of refinishing happens before they show up. Ive seen 1950s russians with "made in russia" electro penciled onto the barrel.

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>>31819614
yeah, some places, like Al Flaherty's for example, forever stopped carrying SKS over that bullshit, since compliance with the requirement to inspect each firearm individually would essentially offset any money being made on that firearm due to the staff manhours spent on it

do you work at a fun store or just at cambodian tire?
have any tips on selecting an SKS?
>is there such a thing as NOS Russian or was that just Chinese military ones?

>>31820372

Al Flaherty still sells accessories for it, at least.

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>>31820412
what good is selling accessories by themselves?

Do they make short hex keys specifically to mount ak side rails or do I have to cut one down? I have no clue what tool is used to tighten the bolts on the inside of the Vz receiver.

>>31814077
Wow your opinions are shit and that was quite the essay to read next time do a tl;dr version so I don't waste my time.

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>>31820941
which gun of yours was made fun of?

>>31820741
THEY don't make short hex keys, but YOU can. all it takes is 1 minute with any grinder.

>>31821037

Sometimes I wish I had a garage full of tools and power tools.

>>31812052
What? I'm taking about the US export restrictions. Before it used to apply to high end accessories like DBALs and certain firearm parts, but now even handguards are ITAR restricted.

To remove rivets from a Vz mag, you have to drill it through it? Innocent question, I don't intend to do it.

>>31821442
I heard when you're going US->Canada, our side doesn't really give a shit. They'll only cause a stir you're coming back with something like a trigger assembly/lower parts kit, with the assumption that you're trying to turn something full auto.

I'd like to bring some cheap 80% lowers over one day, but I can only imagine what shit storm that would cause.

>>31821450
As long as you can remove one of the heads on the rivet you can pull it out. An angle grinder would be very effective for that.
>And completely illegal of course.

What's the best SHTF/InnaWoods non restricted rifle.

>>31821703

Vz58

>>31814077
>passively hating things that are more expensive+functionally superior
I don't hate them, I'm just a cheapass. I like fine guns quite a bit, I just don't hate on the cheap and functional ones. When it comes to guns I believe in quantity AND quality.

>buying an expensive prebuilt rifle is equivalent to building your own PC
no, buying an expensive prebuilt rifle is equivalent to buying an expensive prebuilt PC like HP or Dell's enterprise boxes.

>oblivious to the concept of saving money for nice things and instead you're the kind of guy that would dump $10000 of 'upgrades' into a 1995 civic.
I can already afford to buy the "nice things", I'm very good at saving money. I mostly like oddities so I'm not going to pay 3 grand for a gun unless it's a modernized FG42 or something like that. I wish I bought an MG34 when they were still 3000 dollars. The civic analogy doesn't hold up because a 1995 civic is beat to shit, while a 1951 SKS can still be had in pristine condition. If you could buy a perfectly preserved 1950s car for $2000, would you?

>stop liking cheap guns!!
no

>>31815809
>do not post targets here
kek

>>31817428
the CFO is RCMP in berta

it's not any better having an OPP CFO, let me tell you

>>31821521
>80% lowers
one thing that makes me weary of these is the fact that no brick and mortar store in Canada sells these
>it's totally legal and not a firearm
>can only buy online from two dealers in the entire country

>>31822113
Dlask is in Delta. They've also sold LPKs with auto-sears lel.

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>>31819575

I'm honestly not sure. It looks like wood in the inside of the foregrip but the receipt says laminate.

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>>31822358
do they actually run a brick and mortar store you can walk into and by something?

I thought site specifically states not to try and come in at their location and make orders online/by phone

>>31822533
stock is clearly laminate
>laminate is just layered slices of wood glued together for sturdier-than-wood construction

Anybody backpack innarockies? What takedown/shorty should I get to stuff in my pack?

>>31822533
Its laminate. They just dont finish the unseen surfaces that well.

>>31820372
I worked at one of the big hunting/outdoor retailers. Managed the hunting department for about 14 months. Left about a year and a bit ago to move back to vancouver island.

Everythibg that came ibto my store was was refurbished as far as i could tell. Didnt spend too much time looking through them though.

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>>31815381
all the ranges here are busy as fuck and have annoying ROs

there's only a couple outdoor ranges, and most are shotgun/handgun only, some are just shotgun only

there's pretty much only one long distance, and it's horribly crowded, and has 30 minute target changes

if you want to zero a rifle it could literally take you days at that range, and it's going to get shut down soon because of urban expansion into the area

Can someone help me find 7.62x25 JHP? Can't find that shit anywhere, in a store or online

>>31824498
it doesn't exist

there are places that sell a tool that carves a hole into the round

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/diy-extreme-hollow-point-maker-kit?a=891185

also it's illegal to use a gun for self defense so i don't know why you'd even want them

>>31824498
i shouldn't say it doesn't exist, but it is very rare

PP makes it, but i've never seen it anywhere

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>>31824591
this tool looks like a terrible idea

aside from the fact that HP rounds for a tokarev seem like a sketchy concept to begin with, there are serious issues with this tool itself

hp rounds are made to expand and fragment, structurally they aren't the same thing as a fmj with a hole in it.
when a hole is drilled in a standard fmj bullet there is a huge chance of the lead core blowing through the jacket, when fired
1. the jacket stays in the barrel
2. semi action chambers the next round
3. you obliviously pull the trigger
4. ???
5. PROBLEMS

>>31824924
pretty sure all tokarev ammo is steel core - not sure what difference that would make though

i don't really know why you'd want jhps for your tokarev anyways

>>31824949
steel core would probably be even more likely to yield that effect.

and I'm with you on the sketchiness of someone's reasoning for going out of their way and trying to get the very uncommon hp tokarev round in the first place.

>put cq a up for sale, really cheap
>just want to get rid of it
>guy in ontario buys it, he's a little slow on messaging back
>transfer takes over 3 weeks
>after 1 week he seems mad, says he never has transfers take longer than a few days
>I tell him my transfers usually take 3 weeks
>and some restricted were stolen from me years ago
>maybe this is why they take long for me
>he stops messaging me
>receive transfer notification, send gun to buyer
>tracking with canadapost, see he signed for it
>doesnt ever message me, no feedback rating
>never hear from him again, his profile has regular feedback activity after

Wew lads whats with assholes on cgn? Anybody have similar experiences where people just ghost you halfway through a deal? Its been over a year though so I'm sure the guy got it with no problems

>>31825155
he paid you for it right?

i dont understand what the issue is

>>31825155
he thinks you are criminal scum and you faked your boating robbery

>>31825155
how did your guns get stolen? did they break into your house?

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>>31824498
>>31824591
>it doesn't exist

Wolf makes it

>>31825204
yeah i was being hyperbolic sorry

why aren't nylon jacketed boolits more common?

is it all due to the AP myth?

>>31825171
I like having a feedback rating, some people don't deal with you if you have only a few
>>31825203
Yeah thats what happened. Rcmp came and did their thing and I never heard from them again. They said they were going to take my fingerprints and compare them with the ones they lifted but they did'nt

>>31825227
>did'nt

Also I was scared because /k/ and cgn always told me if this ever happened I would lose my PAL and get charged with 'unsafe storage'. Never happened and the cfo would always approve my transfers after

>>31825227
>I like having a feedback rating, some people don't deal with you if you have only a few
oh ok

are break ins common there or did they target you specifically for guns

>>31822940
>>31823073

thanks dudes.

I think I want to get a shorter barrel for this thing, it is just fucking huge.

>>31825280
Break ins are common everywhere, I don't know what the borgalahs intentions were. It was a sloppy job though so I think it was someone piss drunk or a weakling. I had all my guns in a stack on cabinet and it seems they had a hell of a time prying it open just wide enough to pull the handgun out. I stood over the cabinet and peeled the door off with my bear hands when i discovered the break in

>>31825244

If you follow the letter of the law and get your shit stolen, you'll beat the charge, though they'll keep offering you plea deals for it.

>>31825244
where did this happen?
how did you store your stuff that someone managed to steal it fairly easily but you didn't get charge with improper storage?
I don't mean to be a dick, I'm sorry you got robbed, hope you had insurance or at least didn't have anything very expensive
just trying to figure out how it happened, since like you said, people always tell horror stories of automatically slapped with unsafe storage charges -- basically blaming the victim if you think about it, essentially saying if criminals managed to steal them, that means you didn't protect your firearms well enough

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>>31825315

>bear hands

>>31825315
interesting

do you live in a remote area? where i live there's so many people around everywhere you can't really get away with breaking into a place

>>31825336
I dont want to get too specific it happend in alaberta. Trigger locked in a stack on cabinet was enough for the law I guess. No insurance it was less than $1000 worth I say.
>>31825341
Yeah its somewhat remote but there are houses every few hundred feet.

>>31825408
sucks, but glad the law treated you fairly and you didn't get frivolous charges on top of being victimized by some faggot criminals

there are a few stories floating around about people getting good treatment for just complying with basic minimal storage, so the needless charges and harassment horror stories makes me think maybe those people had previous run ins with the law, like had criminal records or the robberies were extremely suspicious

>trudeau rejected AR-15 reclassification because "cops should make the law"

Isn't that completely wrong though? Parliament makes the law, cops just enforce it.

>>31825836
Yep, that's the gigantic issue we have here in Canada.

>>31825836
Oh but the cops are experts at the law as it's their job so they should be more than qualified to make decisions on what the laws they enforce are.

how do i find an english language course in the montreal area?

>>31825981
>what is google

>>31825981
move out of Québéc

>>31825981
whats your end game ?
do u want to speak English more fluently, or are you just seeking a piece of paper that says that you can ?

Look for college classes they have the most basic stuff ( for brand new immigrants ) , and the they have more intermediate , if you already know some to sart with

>>31826023
He's talking about the CFSC you dummy

>>31825981

>he posted, in perfect english

doesn't add up.

>>31826056
A PAL course in english, i mean.

>>31826068

https://www.reddit.com/r/canadaguns/comments/2wvxm6/english_speaking_quebecers_applying_for_the_cfsc/

>>31826056
it's the only phrase he knows how to write in English, duh

why would someone live in quebec and not speak french?

>>31826111
i speak french(and even write!), just not as well as english.

Anyone see the Vz61 kit sale from Dlask? $389 for parts kit and 80% lower. How involved is finishing one of these kits?

>>31826056
He got several things wrong. He didn't capitalize "How," "I," "English," and "Montreal" in his sentence.

>>31826121
oh ok

>>31826111
The same reason why brown people live in Canada at all and not speak English.

Just curious, what kind of sentence can someone get for dodging the Canadian draft? Because I dont wanna fight Russians for gay rights, gun control and feminism.

>>31826147
horry shit. how would one go about buying one without leaving a paper trail?

>>31826147
Registering, stamping info, milling trigger pocket, modifying safety lever, finishing. Depending how do the pocket you will also need to modify the trigger pack.

>>31824591
>also it's illegal to use a gun for self defense
It should be illegal to be this fucking stupid.

>>31826237

It's not illegal but it's ill advised, since you're probably going to get charged and have your life ruined in the process of being exonerated.

If I thought it was my only chance for survival I'd use a gun, but if I can subdue an intruder with a chair I'd do that first.

>>31826258
In ALL selfdefense cases you are charged.
The court then decides if the use of force was justified. It does not matter what weapon you used.

>>31826285

I doubt that. If I club a guy who's in my homei llegally with a blunt object and he's not killed or gravely injured I'm not that likely to be charged.

If I aerate some cunt with a shotgun there's a 100% chance of facing charges.

That said I do pay the CSSA for legal insurance, just in case.

>>31826215
draft is highly unlikely even in the case of actual open declared non-proxy war, which will probably be highly unlikely in itself
>why would we join the war we have no hope of making a bit of difference in, when we can be the "soft power" that instead works to broker peace from day 1 and can take all of the credit and international brownie points when the war inevitably comes to an end

Canada has too many interest groups with too many conflicting interests to get into war and straight up disenfranchise half of them (example: we can't afford for China to pull out all of its money if China goes even tacitly pro-Russian, which is most likely) for reasons like "cuz Merikah is neighbor".

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>>31826171
all the brown people i've met speak english pretty well

i think you're mixing them up with chinese

>>31826316
The crimanl code states that you will be charged after self defense to determine if it was justified. This is true regardless of wepaon used, a gun is no different than a knife under the law.

>>31826221
Any guides on what and how much you have to mill and change the lower and parts?

>>31826365

It's a more serious charge if someone dies. If you use a gun, someone is probably going to die.

lol turdo is going to clamp down on handguns and salt weapons soon

>voting for a faggot because DUDEWEED

kill yourselves

>>31826355
I think you just got lucky with the brown people you've met.

Where I live, brown people can't speak English for shit, except for the younger ones who were born here/immigrated very young.

My own workplace is like 30% Indian, and only two of them speak English on an intelligible level.

>>31826420
Context?

I genuinely cannot tell if someone is just making fun of Trudeau, or if he's actually gonna do something about guns.

>>31826434
Well, the Liberal platform basically only talks about repealing C-42... which is annoying for sure, but not end of the world.

That being said, the little faggot has completely gone back on his electoral reform promise, as well as a dozen other things, so who knows if they'll actually stick to what they said on guns.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if they come out and just make all semi-auto restricted.

>>31826285
while self defense is not illegal and you can make a good case for saying you used whatever was available and that happened to be a firearm -- possessing a firearm for the purposes of self defense is NOT legal and any prosecutor worth his salt would be able to prove intent if not outright premeditation (at the very least motive for possessing a firearm for an illegal purpose, which as we discussed self-defense is, when it comes to reasons to have a firearm) as pertinent to the case we were discussing: which is some guy wanting to get hp rounds for his tokarev
>but mr prosecutor, how would you prove Billy possessed his firearm with the intent of using it for self defense or otherwise harming another human being, and it wasn't just a sports shooting firearm conveniently available at the time of the self defense incident?
well, let's looky here:
>he went out of his way to find very rare and hard to come by hp rounds for his gun designed to expand, specifically for doing maximum damage to a human body
and even more damning:
>he bought a special tool to actually turn his regular bullets into ones more lethal to a human being

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>>31826464
>and any prosecutor worth his salt would be able to prove intent if not outright premeditation

>yfw the 4chan photos of you squatting with an SKS saying "I wish a nigga would" come back to buttfuck you in court

>>31826464
So what are you supposed to do if a criminal attacks you?

>>31826453
>Wouldn't surprise me at all if they come out and just make all semi-auto restricted.
I'd like to see them actually try and enforce that. It would be way too difficult to do.

>non-compliance from people who think it's asinine
>old fudds who actually would be willing to comply, but don't because they're too old/lazy to figure out how law/internet/technology works
>newfags who generally don't follow firearm politics and only just got their PAL and a firearm or two, and don't give a shit about anything
>the SKS, SVT-40, and Ruger 10/22 being the most common rifles in Canada, and how trying to make them restricted is sheer stupidity

>>31826464
I'm pretty sure like at least 40% of people buy ammunition without knowing much about what it can do. They just make sure it's the right caliber and sold.

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>>31826220
Buy one of those $1000 pre paid visa's

send package to a PO box

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>>31826482
don't worry, your lawyer would use those to prove you were a recreational sports shooter, an avid nature buff with passive submissive sexual desires towards African Americans (wishing "they would" make the first move), whose biggest crime was appropriating ghetto culture in the use of the N-word

>>31826453
The one thing everyone has forgotten about but should keep their buttholes puckered up and ready for is S-223. granted the old unelected bag of crazy got the boot when she turned 75 and that was her last try to get her pet project push through, which did not happen, if you actually look up the document, it's over 70 pages of meticulously written legalese, something I highly doubt was done by an old woman and a couple staffers. this is actually one of the most sophisticated pieces of proposed legislation ever created by the antis, it essentially re-writes the firearms act almost entirely (where it matters anyway, I'm sure we all know the tl;dr on what she tried to do so I won't write all of that out).

here is what matters:
the work was already done
the bill is already written out
IT'S STILL THERE, ready for anyone in Majority government to rename, add a few tweaks and push through at a moment's notice and the win of whoever decides to suddenly "get tough on guns" because Hillary is doing it, because god forbid some idiot goes on a rampage, or just because making real changes is hard and signing a piece of paper that makes everyone feel safe and pleases your base is easy

>>31826514
hey, if you are being physically assaulted and you believe there is a real imminent threat to your life and well being, and escape/deescalation/getting help is not an option, then defend your life as best as you can
>just beware that if your best as you can involves a restricted firearm loaded with rounds specifically designed for doing maximum damage to another human, you are putting yourself in the top tier of "likely to be absolutely fucked by the system"

>>31826530
I don't disagree if you're talking about common calibera and widely available ammunition
if you got a 9mm glock and bought a box of fmj, box of sp, some jhp, some heavier rounds, some lighter ones, steel cased, brass cased, horandy green "zombie" themed shit, etc. to try out how your new firearm shoots with all of this conroncopia of different kind of readily available ammunition for it, there is hardly anything sinister or unusual that can be tied to that. just like if you aren't too knowledgeable about some details and you just wanted to buy some cheap bulk and the store clerk gave you .45jhp instead of fmj cause it was all the same to him

now if prosecution can fairly easily show that you really had to go out of your way to specifically get hp rounds for your tok, that are very uncommon to your firearm and not readily available; or even worse: you actually bought a tool to concert regular rounds into bubba hp, it's a lot harder for you to claim ignorance or lack of intent in this case, when you clearly took time and effort to seek these rounds out/make them

>>31826855
>now if prosecution can fairly easily show that you really had to go out of your way to specifically get hp rounds for your tok, that are very uncommon to your firearm and not readily available; or even worse: you actually bought a tool to concert regular rounds into bubba hp, it's a lot harder for you to claim ignorance or lack of intent in this case, when you clearly took time and effort to seek these rounds out/make them

>Sir can you explain why you googled "Best 9mm to perforate Jamal" on Oct. 23rd, 2016?

Thinking of buying sks and svt as first two guns
What do you guys think
Also, what is the difference between avtomat stock and infantry stock

>>31827285
avt stocks are stronger and nicer
also holy fuck what's with all these ads now? on moblie cant go 10 min without being redirected to a virus page

>>31827351
I thought those were usually brought up by legit viruses and i'm pretty sure my phone has phone aids.

>>31826599
you need a name when ordering a po box, as well as for a pre paid visa.

>>31827058
>sir, your insane bloodlust and propagation of gun violence is famous world over! you went as far as creating abhorrent indoctrination videos for children!
>Lies! Anon is a man of peace! He writes children's songs and makes educational videos that impart positive values on the young!
>may we direct the court's attention to the screen
>*sunny forest clearing backdrop obviously done on a green screen, jolly ukulele music starts playing, Anon comes out dressed in gorka, with full combat loadout in his plate carrier, holding a Tavor and wearing a surplus soviet gas mask with breathing hose attached and two large ears made from rubber sheeting glued to each side of the head
>Hey kids! it's Toto the Tactical Elephant!
>*children chorus screams "Hi Toto!"*
>What's that at Toto's 3 o'clock?!
>*children chorus screams "Muslims!"*
>*Toto proceeds to unload in foot mobiles' supposed direction, doing front rolls on the ground and performing tactical reloads until he runs out of ammo*
>OH NO! Toto is out of ammunition in his primary! What can he do?!
>*children chorus screams "Go to pistol, Toto!"*
>*Toto smacks himself on the head and pulls out his pistol, pushing it out in front of himself and assuming a modified isosceles as he scans the area*
>It's time for the Learning Song!
>*ukulele music gets louder and Toto bobs his head side to side as he executes fleeing and surrendering "combatants"*
>Two to the chest
>And one to the head
>Just to make sure
>That tango is dead
>This little number
>Always does the trick
>What do we call this drill?
>*children*: MOZAMBIQUE!!!
>*music continues and Toto bobs out of view as the screams of his victims are drowned in an unintelligible muffled roar and sounds of gunfire. the picture fades out*

>>31827285
SKS is good idea, SVT not so much. I bought a VZ58 for my first gun, 10/10 would not change decision, and given how close it is to the SKS, I'd say go for it. That being said, I also own an SVT-40. Thing is a pain to field strip, plus you have to tune the gas system first time you take it out.

>>31827416
>>31827351
Guys get clover for mobile
>>31827514
Thanks man. I just really like the look of the svt. What about type 81 vs vz?

>>31827663
>What about type 81 vs vz?
Nobody has a T81 yet so you can't have an educated opinion on it yet.

Seems like it's going to be similar in price to the vz58 so it's going to be entirely your choice.
To be honest I trust the Czechs more than the Chinese even though I own two Norinco rifles.

>>31826731
why do they even sell hollow points in canada?

>>31827663
>I just really like the look of the svt.
I'm not saying never get one, just wait until you have some more experience first, or at least understand you'll be frustrated trying to get the damned recoil springs back in place. As for T81 vs VZ58, I can't really say. Nobody owns one in Canada, though it should end up fairly similar to the VZ58, given it shares a lot of design features and the same short stroke piston system.