Do people just forget about running or something?

>>31795610
Protection over mobility, anon.
Although it does seem a little backward, because I think an accurate burst of fire can kill a man even while wearing armour like this. Correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm a bit of a newfag.

Most designing takes place indoors, seated, so it's likely.

>>31795631
It's kinda hard to make an accurate burst of fire when you're a hundred meters away and an entire squad of soldiers are firing upon you.

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>>31795610
>Do people just forget about running or something?

Can you run faster than a speeding bullet, son?

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>>31795610
Reminds me of this

>>31795610
It's niche gear for niche use. Nothing wrong with it.

>>31795610
That's breacher gear, or better suited for a turret gunner in a technical or some stationary crew served weapon.

>>31795644
Good point. Kinda forgot the fact that real combat isn't like Call of Duty. Thank you for the reminder, anon.

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>>31795610
>running

i prefer to just teleport behind them and say something cool and edgy as a tip my fedora. Then I'll cut them down with my katana blade using hiten mitsurugi style.

>>31795610
Is that the armor finland is using?

If so then its completely rational, their main possible threat is russia whom have a exceptional high usage of artillery and explosive weaponry.
>Autocannon fire
>mortars
>hand grenades
>rocket artillery
>gun tube artillery
etc

That armor carrier provies exceptional fragmentation protection. And it looks more mobile then other older vests from the early 2000. Sure it wont be great when trying to hunt sand people in mountains where a plate carrier would be great but it will be the line between life and death against russian artillery.

>>31795709
It seems to be, I have a verseidag plate carrier and it's identical.

>>31795664

>what is dodging

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>>31795631
most modern armor is designed to be adaptable to the level of protection required by the wearer. As well as kevlar layers it also comes equipped with pockets to stuff steel or ceramic armor plates into. You can choose between very light armor plates that may stop a pistol bullet or knife attack, or heavier ones (level IV) that add protection against any normal caliber rifle round. Even the heaviest ones don't actually feel that heavy though, because their weight is distributed over as much of your body as possible.

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>>31795731

>>31795610
that extra leg protection at the sides doesn't seem like that big of a problem. Its tightly secured to the thigh, it doesn't flop around, and you don't really feel extra weight on your legs (or at least the thighs), because it doesn't rest on your shoulders like body armor, but moves with the leg. I'd be more concerned about that groin protection slapping my dick with every step. must be uncomfortable to sit down with as well.

>>31795644
>can't make an accurate shot from zeroing range.

You a Soldier or civilian?

Looks like asian lamellar armour. Why don't they make it look like western plate mail?

>>31795610

fuck, i'd wear that. I mean most of the time they aren't really running around right? Someone opens fire at you i'd prefer having heavy protection rather than trying to dodge shit. Fuck do i know, i only play vidya.

>>31795631
A mobile target is always more difficult to hit. No amount of extra coverage is worth loss of mobility. Body armor is not suppose to turn someone into a walking tank. It is s saving grace meant to save your life long enough to get to cover.

>>31795944
its almost like that design was battle tested over hundreds of years

>>31795631
this
>>31795964

>correct me if i'm wrong

you are wrong, mobility is always primary

>>31795610
Last time I checked no one could dodge a bullet.

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>>31796258
This.

It's always funny see kids "discuss" this armor vs mobility shit, like it'd be some videogame "DEX vs DEF" stats comparing. You're not going to magically dodge bullets when action starts, and most likely you never see the first shot coming either. Any slightly more trained gunman will know how to aim in advance at moving target, with full-auto fire making hits piss easy.

Even heaviest body armor does NOT slow you down. It will simply drain your stamina out quicker. And modern armor is so fucking lightweight compared to the early forms of modern personal protection from 90s and 80s, it's just fucking silly to even complain about having the option to survive a handful of real deal rifle rounds to the torso.

>>31795676
Agreed and if easy to get on ok for dealing with home invasion

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>>31795731
>bullet dodging is a viable tactic in combat

Settle down there, Neo.

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>>31795731
>dodging

Do you even have a sword bro?

>>31795610
>running

People who buy and advocate for body armor on this board don't usually make a practice of doing a lot of that.
I mean, half of the plate carriers you see in the gear threads look about as worn as you can expect from putting them on for a mirror selfie once in a month.

>>31796317
>Even heaviest body armor does NOT slow you down.
bull fucking shit. Try running up 4 flights of stairs in full battle rattle. Running out of stamina IS slowing you down.
If Shoot, Move, and Communicate is the rule then having all that armor on limits your movement and forces you to take/make static defense. And a static defense is a losing proposition.

>>31795610

It doesn't matter to me how much protection it offers if I can't shoulder my rifle in less than ideal positions. The IBA and IOTV are heinous offenders of this. This example looks like the manufacturer may have tried to address it. I'd try it out, I guess.

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>>31796394
>Try running up 4 flights of stairs in full battle rattle.
This, my friend, is called "moving goalposts".
Why would you run 4 flights of stairs in full gear? In what kind of battlefield would that be necessary?

>Running out of stamina IS slowing you down.
If you run out of strength just by wearing an extra 10kg of practical clothes, then you are simply out of shape.

>Shoot, Move, and Communicate
You're assuming you even get the chance of shooting or even moving.
If anything, personal protection is a highly practical, cheap extra insurance FOR the moments you have to move, and also when you simply cannot.

All in all, this weird "anti-armor" argument is just as silly as those bizarre claims of a helmet limiting your perception skills.

I wanna be a bikini clad highly mobile female operator desu

>>31796420
we all want that anon

>>31795610
We samurai now senpai.

>>31796416
Iraq, Ukraine, Columbia, Mali, Kenya, Libya, and Brazil over the last decade come right to mind

>>31796416
Let me ask you this, what is easier to hit, a 10mph moving target, or a very slow target?

>>31796416
>Why would you run 4 flights of stairs in full gear?
pretty much ANY 4 story building. Now try doing that ~5 times an hour when you are clearing buildings.
>In what kind of battlefield would that be necessary?
any city on the planet.
>wearing an extra 10kg of practical clothes
try about 30kg once you factor in ammo, water, IFAC, various bs gear(gas mask, binos, etc.)

Shoot, move, and communicate, is just a common military rule illustrating basic things a soldier MUST be able to perform routinely to be effective.

Also, I wasn't making an 'anti-armor' argument, I was refuting your claim that armor doesn't slow you down, which it does.

>>31796416

>Why would you run 4 flights of stairs in full gear?

That shit happens sometimes. The battlefield in which it's necessary is the battlefield which necessitates it. Not everything happens on a 2D plane.

>If you run out of strength just by wearing an extra 10kg of practical clothes, then you are simply out of shape.

Don't know if you've ever tried it, but often times, units will have to dismount up to 10 klicks in rough terrain before even getting to their objective. 10 kilograms of "practical clothing" in addition to 20-30 more kilograms of gear in a backpack which isn't designed to be integrated with your practical clothing is absolutely a hindrance UNTIL it stops a bullet. I'm not saying body armor is useless, but you shouldn't pretend it's not a pain in everyone's ass.

>You're assuming you even get the chance of shooting or even moving.

That's what the military does. "Shoot, move, communicate" is the fundamental basis for all military training. If you're not planning to shoot or move, and only communicate; you're not planning for combat.

Also, I've met the guy in that suit, and those few seconds of dancing were all he had in him.

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>>31796426
especially with the ach/mich helm and a respirator
I reckon a wakizashi on your hip would look completely normal

>>31796317
Bull shit body armor slows you the fuck down easily.
Try running with and without it. Then train running with it.
You will still not even be remotely as fast.

Seeking cover and bounding effectively is far superior than being weighed down by body armor. Unless you have been gifted by operation walrus

Finnish reservist here.

Having worn that armor during my service. It's actually mobile and feels as light as military equipment can feel.

The vest and the extra parts can be adjusted on your body really tightly, so the weight distributes really well around your body.

Even trained evacuating guys wearing that and it was really good.

>>31796426
It'd need a skirt-like bit on the front to be perfect. Then you can have your Tactical Cold Steel(tm) Yamato Classic(r) Wakizishi

>>31795820
>>31796353
He still gets shot in that scene.

>>31795644
>100 meters
>"far" for a machine gunner

Dude, that's reactive fire range. Riflemen make that shot all day every day like its nothing.

Go get gud.

>>31796504

That's good. I'm glad some militaries try harder to make armor effective and efficient.

OP forgot how much rage was there about "hurr durr ur soldiers dont get enuth protection, they are sent in unarmored humvees!" from socer mums, and media spread that cancer, and there was a giant shitstorm.
Why is pola/k/ the only one who remembers this?

>>31795644
>hundred meters
nigger thats easy mode

>>31796416

Found the guy who has never been in the military

>>31796394
>Try running up 4 flights of stairs in full battle rattle.
people do this at basic

>>31796541

He might've been. There are still a few REMFs left who don't pretend to be high speed in training, but conversely talk like they're low drag to people they assume won't know better.

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>>31795610

I guess it's good for stationary home defense where you are outnumbered.

A force multiplier thing.

>>31796459
Someone gets it. Any load over 25-40ish pounds (size/shape/fit depending) will slow you down. What matters is how much slower and what is being encountered.

>>31796504
Were you some kind of cityjaeger? Couple of years back I was given just a vest, but granted, I was the gorilla kind of a jaeger.

>>31796531
Didn't help we were using hmmv as a fucking apc in 03. God damn generation kill got that part right

>>31796459
>wearing 20 additional kg of bullshit
maybe you should off the random shit like gas masks and binos before you take of your armor

>>31795610
Exactly what i was looking for. What is ops pic related called

>>31796317
I'd buy one of those vests with the shoulder if they had MOLLE on the shoulders to attach knives for maximum edginess

>>31795671
>I can't feel my foreskin
Silly american, your foreskin was already taken from you to feed the woman face cream industry.

>>31796416
>he thinks he can cheat physcis
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23282131_Metabolic_Demands_of_Body_Armor_on_Physical_Performance_in_Simulated_Conditions

>>31796753
Verseidag Ballistic Protection's TACTICUM Plate Carrier

>>31795610

I don't imagine that's the kind of outfit you wear to a situation in which you'd be doing much running, compadre

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>>31796317
>It's always funny see kids "discuss" this armor vs mobility shit, like it'd be some videogame "DEX vs DEF" stats comparing
>Even heaviest body armor does NOT slow you down. It will simply drain your stamina out quicker.

Is this much lack of self-awareness even legal?

>>31796773
Cool fax and reference, but if you think I'm going to read a research report OUTSIDE of university you're dead fucking wrong

>>31796512
He gets winged. Not really shot.

according to the data sheet
plate carrier 2.3kg
battle belt 1.8kg
neck/shoulder protector 1kg
upper arm protectors 900g
thigh protectors 1kg
groin protector 500g
so add the weight of some IV ceramics on top of that at 7kg brings it to 14.5kg of body armor not including the helmet

>>31795699
>Heh heh... Nothing personal kid...

>>31796459
>once you factor in ammo, water, IFAC, various bs gear(gas mask, binos, etc.)

You'll still need those even without wearing body armor, so its not additional 30kg

>>31796783
Thanks, any price info?

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>>31796872

Welp, it's not like I wanted my joints to last me until I retire or anything.

>>31796512
as far as i remember he got winged in the leg

>should have worn that leg protection from OP's pic

>>31796804
It's not DEX vs DEF it's clearly STM vs DEF.

>>31796918
ehh, the arm, groin, neck, thigh protection are all only 3.5kg
everyone already wears a carrier and battle belt

>>31796890
JUST the plate carrier is 376.99 EUR
JUST the battle belt is 439.99 EUR
It is not a cheap setup which explains why the USA does not use it with its large army. The (active) Finnish army is very small so they can afford to deploy this.

>>31796703
you will carry that kind of weight anyway if you were to fight in a head on war. Supplies, ammuntion, NV and maybe some VR shit in the future, tools, ... I guess adding 15kg of armor to the already doesn't really matter considering the extra protection

see>>31796918

>>31796956
>well I guess if you're already carrying 30kg of gear, adding another 15 isn't going to matter amirite

Are you legitimately retarded?

>>31796968
its an additional 3.5kg
you should already be wearing a battle belt and plate carrier

>>31795644
>he can't burst fire from hundred meter
>when people can do it at half a klick

Anon, you stupid.

>>31795610
You could always just loosen the straps on the side ya know.

>>31795644
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdQ5__dpoCE

Figure that range is way past 100 meters.

>>31795644
Anon, there's a difference between mag dumping on full auto and a three round burst.

>>31796804
Use STM buffs so you're meter recovers faster.

>>31795664
Let's pretend this is dodge ball with cover. Just stay with me here.

There's a little boy and fat man. Who's going to get to cover first?

>>31797039
>little boy and fat man

Neither, cause they both already exploded.

>>31796558
yes, yes they do so what is your point?

>>31795610
"Running" doesn't need to be produced.

"Running" doesn't cost anything.

"Running" has no market value.

"Running" is not a product.

Body armor is all of the above and the MIC makes big bucks out of it.

That isn't to say they are worthless or don't work, but it is to say that they wouldn't be produced if someone somewhere wasn't cashing in millions of the back of it.

>>31796968
see
>>31796980

I was wrong in that the extra armor is less than 30kg

>>31797002
better keep it tightly secured so it isn't flopping around, your total weight to move will increase, but you aren't going to feel that much weight on your leg

>>31796737
well, if you are a soldier, you don't really have a choice. I've had to carry all that shit and then some....over and over all day & night long and personally prefer not being too friggin overencumbered/tired to notice a tripwire, or stumble & fall and then go turtle trying to get back up.
Sure I would regret not having it if I were shot, but my luck I woulda got shot in the face, or legs.

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>>31797097
Though different market, for military "running" is usually a trigger word.

>>31796955
The armed forces won't have to pay Vtower markup prices.

>>31796783
>TactiCUM
:)

>>31795964
In open ground, maybe.
But body armor is not supposed to make you a walking tank.
It's supposed to allow you be unlucky, in a certain margin.

>Patrol through Bagdad
>Suddenly, sniper fire
>Duck for cover asap
>One of you get hit anyway because you'll never be faster than a bullet
>Good thing that body armor was there
>Crawl to cover and stay safe while calling backup

>>31797151
Just wait until we have more advanced exoskeletons.

>>31796317
>Even heaviest body armor does NOT slow you down
Yeah Anon, that's probably why sprinters don't mind carrying heavy shit.

Oh wait.

>>31797151
ya ambushes tend to go like that, except the guy who go hit, got hit 5 times, and only 1 bullet hit the plate, the rest went his legs, nutz and neck.

You only get shot once...if you are lucky. You'd be really lucky if that shot landed on the plate and didn't puncture AND the spall lining captured all the spall.

>>31796416

You're um. You're a fucking idiot

>>31796317
>Even heaviest body armor does NOT slow you down. It will simply drain your stamina out quicker.

You do understand as you lose stamina you slow down.

>>31796317
>running in plate carrier
>my stamina bar runs out
>can no longer jump or sprint
>blocking bullets drops guard
>am kill
>must wait behind cover for stamina meter to refill
Real life is fucking bullshit man

>>31796317
> kids "discuss" armour
> Heaviest body armor does NOT slow you down

I'm sorry but it will slow you down AND your stamina as you said, the issue, however, is whether or not the rate of which your speed is reduced along with your stamina is worth the added protection, in which most cases it is.

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>>31795610
Is it just me or does this setup look dank as fuck.

>>31796760
Many of our minorities don't believe in chopping it off

>>31796956
All depends on roles. There was a time when we would drop to rifle ammo knife nods and helmet for an assault (usually had water as well) it can work but admitedly it is not as appropriate for urban combat. A lot of weight is nice to have not need to have kind of shit

>>31797044
Nice

guys chill
I got a solution
exoskeletons

>>31797234
>You'd be really lucky if that shot landed on the plate and didn't puncture AND the spall lining captured all the spall.

See the bullet landing on the plate might be considered luck, the other two not so much.

The point of the plate is to prevent puncture. The point of the spall lining is to capture spall. Neither of those are luck, they do that by design. This isn't vidya where you pray to RNJesus you get good rolls on your penetration and spall capture modifiers.

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>>31795731
>No Neo, I'm trying to tell you when you're ready you can dodge a wrench.

>>31797666
Satanic keks

>>31796317
>Even heaviest body armor does NOT slow you down.
wat

>>31796317
>It will simply drain your stamina out quicker.
jokes on you I min/max'd my stamina so I'm OP af til they nerf this

>>31795731
Hey, it works in GURPS

>>31797438
It does come from the land of the dank memes.

>>31795610
There are certain situations in which extra protection is more beneficial than extended endurance.

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>tacticum

Who names this shit.

It does look pretty sweet, though.

>>31796707
Medical corps. We had a bunch of the Rapid Deployment Force-guys on our medical NCO-course, and they had those vests.

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>ohh boo hoo wearing all this armor makes my feetsies hurt

You now realize why this will replace soldiers

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>>31797497
working on it.

>>31798224
Air soft sure has gotten serious

>>31798064
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cum
Fucking ignorant burgers.

>>31798238
Doesn't mean shit in Latin. Obviously derived from silence/be silent in Latin "tace!" In it's imperative form, but still doesn't mean shit.

t. Have taken years of Latin in highschool and now in college.

>>31798224
>>31798228

More like cosplaying at the range.

Forget stopping rifle rounds, wouldn't it be worthwhile to release some very lightweight shit to slap everywhere just for protection against shrapnel and shit?

I feel like small plates of -insert appropriate material here- would help out a lot.

I could see one guy in the squad wear all this along with a Russia tier bullet resistant helmet if breaching and roomclearing had to be done.

>>31798228
I expected retarded comments but airsoft troll really I expected more clearly theres 55 grain bullets of 5.56 in that magazine as well as plenty of others.. Translucent so you can see them clearly.

>>31798275
I do not cosplay faggot I have had plenty of use with bottom dollar equivalents.

>>31798336
You're cosplaying a faggot right now though

>>31798295
Thats what the kevlarparts (shoulder, thigh and neck) are for, you dont need actual plating to stop shrapnell.

>>31798328
>55 grain meme
I'm literally laughing.

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>>31798341
lol very true Many masks to wear which one will work on you? I was requested to post pictures therefore I did. I am a man of my word...

>>31798369
Do you even has guns? post them now and identify yourself.

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>>31798328
My airsoft P90 has fake bullets in the magazine, just like this

>>31798377
Not an argument

>putting the argument about body armor as "speed vs. protection"
>not "cost vs. protection"

Having body armor almost always beats not having body armor. The concept of "light infantry" is long dead; any armed force that can afford to give most of their fighters body will give most of their fighters body armor.

But body armor is expensive, hence not everyone who fights having some, and hence military forces who do regularly issue body armor not issuing more protective body armor systems.

The only time running speed and stamina becomes more than a negligible consideration is if the armor is so ridiculously heaving that even walking becomes more difficult (which does not apply to most modern body armor), or if the armor is so bulky that it heavily impacts the range of motion of the users limbs.

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>>31798378
You should not call someone out who can back up there comments anon.

>>31798442
correct armor for my set alone costs roughly 10 grand for just the plates themselves. the rest is pouches and MISC equipment then you add on the rifle accessories for that etc. My armor only weighs with plates 15 lbs with water bladder excluding helmet and magazines. with magazines roughly 19 lbs.

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Elder Salt God tier
>Beat to shit woodland Interceptor with bullet holes in it

God Tier
>Old SAPI plate carrier that CIF has no record of

Good Tier
>IMTV without all the doodads

Okay Tier
>Interceptor Vest without side SAPIs

Just Kill Me Now Tier
>MTV with all SAPIs inserted

>>31798456
>there
Also, my point was that translucent magazines prove nothing.

Have any of you guys actually used this shit down range? So far we have a bunch of a gear queer airshitters arguing about stuff they've seen in movies and a Euro weekend warrior. Armor sucks, and if given the option go for the lightest / least restrictive option possible. In addition to the numerous reasons previous posters have said: heat. This shit makes you hot as balls and restricts your ability to sweat. Full face masks/groin protectors/ DAPS/ heavy core equipment makes you less effective, makes you miserable, and the only people who wear it are those forced to do so by bullshit unit SOP. There's a reason everybody who has the option goes for a lightweight plate carrier over an IOTV or whatever the fuck they call it these days. It's hard to articulate, but wearing a bunch of inflexible bullshit makes all sorts of tasks far more difficult than they should be. Offsetting balance, making it just that much harder to do literally everything, and I've yet to meet somebody who can shoot better with DAPS/vest than with an exposed shoulder. In addition, vehicles. Military vehicles are designed with regular sized people in mind, so when a guy with 6 inches of bullshit added to his diameter starts crawling up in that biz it gets so tight you start reducing your cargo inside the cab so you can actually fuck with the radio/ grab what's needed/ communicate. Humvees were designed before armor was issued to everybody and the up armored ones are even worse. I'm not even going to touch the idea that weight doesn't slow one down. Shit man. I mean wear whatever you want when you're cosplaying or pretending to be a real soldier but don't pretend there's a good reason for it TL;DR Hump that shit in 120f heat all goddamn day and then tell me heavy armor doesn't reduce effectiveness

>>31795964
>No amount of extra coverage is worth loss of mobility.
Better not wear any body armor at all then.

>>31798503
point conceded. Still my AWM lancers look like AUG mags, for ar 15's.

>>31798535
Enter key. Use it.

>>31798369
SKS - norinco
Nagant revolver - 1917 Peter the great
Ar15 - MP15 sport 2 w/ magpul furniture (gray).

>>31798535
Some ones buthurt they wer eforced to use lowest bidder uncle sam shit. 90%of my plates are flexible anon except for my helmet SLAAP. groin center plate and that's it. Not that hard to get plates for my sizes being 60% lighter then what you can buy.

>>31798562
pics or its all talk and no walk.

>>31798535
Hmmve designed by short woman. Fuck every one over 5'6

>>31798582
hmmves were designed for manlets, sadly. Even the shortest asian bros on our squad had trouble with egressing those guam turds.

>>31798328
>clearly theres 55 grain bullets of 5.56 in that magazine as well as plenty of others

Whether or not it is a real gun doesn't matter, you're a cosplaying gear queer regardless.
Seeing your kind wearing their pristine kits to the range always leaves me with CWC levels of cringe.

>>31798602
t. poorfag that cant afford gear.

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>>31798578
Enjoy shitty iPhone photos

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>>31798619
Nagant 1917

>>31796512
> only human

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>>31798631
SKS in my XJ

>>31798619
>>31798631
>>31798650
>actually validating him

kys

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>>31798619
>>31798631
>>31798650
Your weapons look good to me anon thanks just wish we didn't have to fight over opinions. I only used a Trip to keep track of my posting better for threads and comments.>>31798602
who says I go to a range wearing this power level? Ever heard of upscaling/ downscaling threats?

>>31798721
I was 100% memeing my dude

>>31798721
>upscaling/ downscaling threats
>I am a man of my word
>Many masks to wear which one will work on you?
>all talk and no walk
>identify yourself.

Jesus Christ the cringe is real.
This HAS to be bait.

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>>31798762
impossible things happen everyday anon. What makes today any different?

>>31798600
Mrap was comfy matv meh but fuck the asv

>>31798921
I remember Mrap training in guam it was quite fun. Scary as hell driving one at night with shit tier
pvs 14's

>>31798938
Forget what model we got stuck with but good enough gen 3 monotube. That said fuck night driving with shit tier dirt roads when everything is the same damn color/texture

>>31798442
Perception of modern war heavily skewed by asymmetric nature of modern conflict and "eurocentric" perception of them
>Having body armor almost always beats not having body armor when kicking down some sandnigers with technological and 10:1 numerical advantage
Fixed version would be right.

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>>31798836
Bretty nice gun there anon :DDDD

>>31795610
10/10 want

>>31800166
When the relative economic value of life is so overwhelming in its disparity yes it makes a funny kind of sense

>>31796317
>Saying accurate full auto fire is easily obtainable
>saying body armor doesn't slow you down
Bro, do you even infantry??

>>31800466
I don't think he has rucked or walked more then 3 miles in 100lbs of gear a day in his life anon,>>31796317
> has never fired a select or closed bolt/open bolt machine gun.
Their's this thing called muzzle climb & heat generation...

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>>31800233
thanks anon have tritium sight put on it to!

>>31796804
akhtchually, people tend to wear +4 armor protection in Arizona because it doesn't have a combat speed penalty like the +5-and-up armor. Probably a good idea to give your lead guy some proper armor in Los Angelos though.

>>31800545
... completely missed the joke. Check the pic.

>>31795644
have you even seen Hickok45?

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>>31798224
>no trigger discipline
>shitty rifle
>EOTech
>full face protection
Airshit fag stop pretending to be a real threat

>>31800588
>... completely missed the joke.

I'm really not sure what you expected, It's pretty obvious he has crippling autism.

>>31800771
>EOTech

Congratulations, you're even more retarded than him, that's a Sightmark.

>>31801064
Congratulations on being more retarded than the both of them, that's a mepro

>>31801860

Yeah, looks like the joke's on me.

>>31801890
We spend our time on /k/, the joke is on all of us.

>>31795858
I like them, you finally get issued leg rigs for strapping gear on.

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>>31801960
forgot pic related

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>>31801064
>>31800771
>>31801043
>>31801912
>>31801890
This is just to much!

>>31798224
This guy is in every armor thread ever. I cant escape him

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>>31800771
>Airshit
Prove that I play becuase clearly I do not.

>>31795914
>You a Soldier or civilian?

>implying I'm not a better shot that most welfare queens in the military.

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>>31802284
>>31798224
kek

>>31802284

Leave him alone, it's all he has.
Imagine you kept saving your good boy points until you assembled a set of armor with a full face helmet adhering exactly to your assburger standards ,and then you realized the only thing you can actually do with it is take blurry selfies and post them on /k/.
I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate some asshole just barging in and asking dumb questions like "mommy, why is there a full grown man dressing up in front of the mirror so that he can take a picture of himself?"

>>31800518
> Muzzle climb

> implying you can't just fix that by shooting more bullets

>>31798328
>NUH UH IS REAL GUN
>shit trigger discipline
you're between a rock and a hard place.
are a gearqueer airsoft faggot or a dumbass who puts his finger on a loaded gun?

>>31797039
>Let's pretend this is dodge ball with cover
This ignores the fact that a 5.56mm bullet is moving approximately 30x faster than you can throw a ball. Also, taking cover and dodging bullets are two totally different principles.

>>31796918
they'll last all the way to medical retirement. Then it's oxy time

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>>31802413
I'm glad you consider me a minimal threat. Thank god after all I spend far more money on actual training. /k/ is just a pass time at night for when I want to jam out to some metal. But seriously do you really think in the back of your mind that I am an untrained basement dweller NEET? Becuase if you're wrong which I am glad you think your right. I have nothing to lose but even more to gain from your ignorance. Top training in private armed protective services can be dull after a couple months what better way then to pass the time at night?

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>>31802585

You're literally the multicam version of this.

>>31795610
no I've spent a lot of time in that shit. the only way to get used to running in gear is by running in gear. Guess what if I had to run in that damned class 4 samurai suit I could.

>>31797457
>Minorities

Dude I'm white

>But muh hygiene
Wash your dick you lazy fucking slob
It's not that hard to pull the shit back, a girl can do it when shes sucking your dick, you can do it to clean the cheese


Enjoy sex that will never be as pleasurable.

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>>31802512
fuck the rock I just throw it aside. Fun fact is that my finger is resting behind the trigger on pistol grip in that photo? The Sar Tavors ergonomics are quite odd it has a groove aligned with the trigger bow pistol grip making it quite tempting to just grip the entire thing with your entire hand.

>>31802620
That does not appear to stop bullets nor does it blend into its environment at all. Sword is a minimal threat becuase gun>sword.
*Sigh* try again anon.

>>31802585
>>31802670
>>31798721
>>31798456
>>31798224
Why is it that none of your stuff shows even minimal signs of use? Does your crippling autism prevent you from going outside except to take pics of your bag?

>>31798500
>How are you still alive tier

Walmart golds gym weight training vest with Kevlar pads

>>31802748
Simple becuase most of it is brand new and just arriving as in 3 days ago for the plate carrier for example. I used my CIRAS for training so why wear out my nice plate carrier when my old one does the job just fine?

>>31798545
they look like Lancer mags you fucking faggot.