Medieval Armor

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>>31795487
>middle ages
very vague term mate. and I disagree. a german gothic field harness would be 30kg and would cover every part of your body in plate.

A longbow with your longbow buddies.

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>>31795515
Beautiful. Anymore?

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>>31795515

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>>31795561

How effective was cuir bouilli?

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>>31795542

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>>31795584

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You'll be hard pressed to find better defense than this.

>>31795728
Seems pretty weak. Katana can probably pierce it

A good pike, and a whole lot of friends with pikes.

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>>31795487
I think Spanish armor was great, they were the best medieval empire for a reason

>>31795842
Thats the sexiest helmet style, shame theres so few in comparison to salets and armets.

>>31795728
>middle ages
>1525

Pick one, bro

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>>31795842
>>31795856
Prepare your dick for pic related. Most aesthetic tournament armor I ahve ever seen.

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>>31795865

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>>31795728

>>31795542
Square straps of leather, they do nothing!

>>31795667
Why is everyone obsessed with these leather "armor" and weird wrist thingies?

>>31795584
mmmm dat sexy weist

>>31795973
Lamellar Armor was/is supposedly the closest thing to leather armor. I just want to know if Hard-boiled leather called cuir bouilli was any good when supplemented with a gambeson and chainmail

>>31795986
Early ooga boogas and siberian nomads used bone afaik, otherwise metal was used to make lamellars. Maybe in Chingchongland they might have used leather.

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pac-man ghosts make the best defenses
also god

>>31796059
Mongolians and East Europeans used Lamellar Armor.

>>31795865
u have to roll so much to get away from that guy

>>31796153
I'm confused by your use of lamellar here. Lamellar refers to how the armor is made, not what materials used.

>>31795865
Could he see

>>31796745
he leaned forward to see and before actual impact he'd straighten his head to protect his eyes

>>31795536
What is the greatest medieval battle of all time and why is it Agincourt?

>>31796781
Something about frog's legs

>>31795487
The best answer is probably the full plate over chainmail blouse that was seen during the late middle ages.

Aestheticall, lamaller worn by Byzantines is my favorite. Especially their helms

>>31796363
Not him, but Mongolian lamellar armor was typically iron scales layered over boiled leather, and the entire thing was then worn over a fabric (thought to be silk) garment. The Mongols used silk garments in a fashion not dissimilar to Gambeson because it was thought that an arrow wouldn't pierce through silk, but rather embed itself in the flesh while wrapped in silk, which facilitated easy removal of the arrow by gently pulling the silk garment out of the puncture wound.

>>31795842
I've seen this before it was at the Ulrich in kansas city right?

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>>31795487

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>>31795487
This one looks good.

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>>31795487
Maximilian

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>>31795487

>>31797015
>In the history of Europe, the Middle Ages or medieval period lasted from the 5th to the 15th century.

>>31795515
Dust that shit! Fuck.

>>31797036
You're right shouldn't of posted that one

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>>31797015
>mfw born 400 years too late to see a genuine Polish hussars' charge against the tartars.

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>>31795728
>full plate armor
>covered in obscene hand gestures
>mfw

>>31797051
But since you did, does any one else ever thought that hussar armor was never very impressive looking?

I feel like the most interesting part is the wings while the rest doesn't seem like a especially effective design.

>>31797133
It is a typical half-armor used in the Europe by light cavalry century before.

>>31795582
You ain't got any replies so I'll throw my two cents in to help provide an answer, but know that I'm no historian or anything like that, just someone whose put a lot of googling into it so I'm sure someone more educated can add on to this or correct me entirely.
From what I've read boiled leather plates were very susceptible to cutting and piercing, as the boiling made them brittle.
From what I recall they provided adequate protection against blunt trauma, but were basically useless against swords or other edged blows unless reinforced with plates of metal like a coat of plates or something like that.

>>31797650
Thanks

>>31796781
>Azincourt
>not Las Navas de Tolosa
please...

>>31795487
None of that would have mattered because the Katana would have pierce thru it

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>>31797015

>>31800544
What's he thinking?

>>31800864
Wondering if he could see.

>>31795487
Woad, a buckler, and booze.

>>31802514
maybe he had some moldy rye crumpets for brunch?

>>31797015
WHEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED!!!!

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>Your at the tournament and this guy slaps your dame ass
>what do

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>my eyes are up there

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>>31795783
> pic related

>>31802854
sword through eyeslit

>>31795842
No they weren't.

>>31796939
I'm assuming that wasn't true?

>>31806279
IT IS

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>>31795973
It looks nice mostly

Leather armour is one of those things that became so common in fantasy that your average joe began to think it's a real, historical thing. I mean just about every piece of media with a medieval fantasy setting in the past few decades mentions leather armour.

>>31807244
>not knowing that the mongols wore leather scale armor over silk shirts, effectively making them arrow-proof.

>>31796081
oh man byzantine armor is fucking sick
I love lamellar/scale armor oh fuck I so wish it was in games/movies more

>>31807244
>Leather armour is one of those things that became so common in fantasy that your average joe began to think it's a real, historical thing.
This post reminds me of why I left /k/ really.

>>31807244
So are we forgetting Asian/ East Europeans?

little off topic, but can anyone recommend good game with good polearm combat system (think Chivalry: MW)?

>>31807503
Real life

>>31797650
well you had maille under it which stopped the blade
and under that the the padded gambeson which stopped the blunt force trauma

>>31808196
Would the Gambeson, maille, cuir bouilli be effective Armor?

>>31808243
>>31808129

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>>31795543
>>31795553
>>31795561
>>31795572
>Raven's beaks

>>31796961
What was the point of the pointy armor boots? Kick people in the arse?

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>>31796763
I happen to be an expert in this subject.
See the hatch in the helmet, in the left side of the image. You only need to see through that hatch on the right side of the helmet(that can be opened) because it's an armor for tournaments (the ones were you charged with a lance riding a horse). In the tournaments you charged having your opponent in the right side since most people are right handed, so you only need to see your right, there is no need to have vision of the left in a tournament. Also it was usual to lost eyes in tournaments, that's why you shouldn't let too many space near the eyes,

>>31806279
It is very sutuational. It would help somewhat against broader arrowheads at longer ranges. Not so much against bodkins or arrows that happen to penetrate deeply. Silk can resist cutting better than wool or linen, but it is not the miracle material that people treated it as.

>>31809367
*Situational

Autocorrect is a fickle tool...I suppose that I should proofread more closely.

>>31809269

Made it easier to get the boot into a stirrup. Then it became a status symbol and went full-retard to the point where people couldn't even walk in the damn things.

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>>31809327
In jousting opponent is on the left.

>>31809908
What

>>31809327
>>31809908
>>31811887
Actually, in jousting opponents WERE on the left side. It's right though that many helmets, especially late ones, only had vision slits and breathing holes on the right side. But that's not because you only need to see to your right in jousting, it has a purpose both on the battlefield and in jousting:

Since most people were right-handed and thus tended to wield their weapons (doesn't matter if sword or polearm or whatever) from the right to the left. From your perspective the enemy blows or thrusts mostly came from your left side. Since in jousting the opponent was on your left, his lance was as well. Your helmet was therefor most likely to get hit in the left side, both in battle and in jousting.

The lack of openings in that side of the helmet was meant to reinforce that side against heavy blows and to prevent spikes and such from finding their way into your vision slit for example.

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>>31812113
found a pic of a bascinet from the very good weapons channel 'Scholagladiatoria'

>>31812113
Thanks for the clarification

>>31808458
Doesn't answer my question

>>31811887
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_V626RwtTM

>>31796081
I instantly lose any respect for anyone who wears scale or lamellar.

>>31796982
The middle suit is around 6'2 and the knights was known as a big guy.

>>31813678
>a big guy
Compared to thee

>>31795487
How good was the katana vs Armor

>>31817144
Pierce

>>31814100
was being ransomed part of thy plan?

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>>31813514
Get fucked, cuirassier faggot.

>>31813514
Why they're decent armor

>>31795783
Katana is fucking beyond useless for anything but cutting and maybe stabbing if they're wearing no armour. Literally a glorified cutting knife.

>>31817144
Like with pretty much any other sword vs armor of any culture, you just go for the least protected parts. At that it's decent, just like any other swords really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aeWU8CYl5M

>>31820455
It can cut steel

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>>31813514
Lamellar armor and derivatives (scale on mail) has seen more use than plate armor in quantity, timespan and area.

>>31800459
katana wouldn't do shit to chainmail you fucking weeaboo

>>31795728
ever heard of a mace?

>>31795543
>>31795553
>Hans what the fuck?! You said we were sparring!

>>31822052
A mace would work even better against most other types of armour. Of all types of armour, plate armour probably provides the best defence against blunt trauma due to its rigidity.

>>31822406
Sure plate is rigid but getting battered around would still suck

>>31822826
Yeah, but much worse if you're clad in mail which would give in and allow the force to hit punctually whereas plate distributes it over the surface while also being dampened by the padding underneath.

>>31821494
Shy is that?

>>31825158
Because it's effective and a lot cheaper. Only towards the end of the late medieval period did people manage to reliably or at all produce big plates of quality steel. But anyone can make a bunch of small ones and sow then onto a liner.

>>31821999
Buts its been folded a thousand times

>>31818147
Forsooth!

>>31809269
>>31809485

Agreeing with this guy, not to mention some parts of armor was just fashion statements. Kind of like how most sets of armor have flared hips even though they aren't really necessary.

>>31809485
How did they become status symbols

>>31795487
Which culture had the best aesthetic armor?

>>31828804
Russians

>>31830241
PROOF please.

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>>31831070
Russian armor

>>31795986
There are videos of cutting tests against leather 'scales' in both boiled and unboiled varieties.

>>31831324
His shield has a picture of Mickey Mouse with a giant nutsack on it